Khusoosi Adalaton Ki Zaroorat Kyun Mehsoos Hui ? " Mujhe Ab Khauf Araha Hai. .. . " Muhammad Malik
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00:00So Mr. Malik, PMLN and Army's guns are on the side of the courts, Mr. Bandyal was asked to give a date, Mr. Gilani, Yusuf Azza Gilani did not write a letter, did not write, whatever he said, whatever the pressure was, he got contempt, went home, here the speaker will also get contempt, will go home, where do you see this inevitably ending?
00:20Look, the point is that you have to decide that this decision is neither of the government nor of the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court will have a reaction, like it was pointed out in Kashmir that if they do not agree, the Chief Election Commissioner and team do not agree with them, then obviously they have to take him to task.
00:40After that, a very big crisis will come to light, whether to take those things to that extent or not, this decision is not in Islamabad, this decision is of Pindi and I disagree with Kashmir on one thing, where they say that no one can talk from their place, it can only be done in one place, that is the conflict between the judiciary and the army and if the army takes two steps back, then these things can be implicated and a working relationship can be established.
01:08If this does not happen, if the same zero-sum game is made there, one thing is very clear, between Imran Khan PTI and the army in particular, this is a zero-sum game and PM Allain and his allies want this to be a zero-sum game, because exactly what Kashif was saying that they can't handle Imran, they have outsourced the job, that they will do it and we will do whatever you want us to do in return.
01:37And you have seen that when it comes to this, the ones who say it do this and the ones who do it do it on the other side. This judiciary conflict will have to be resolved and only the army will have to take two steps back, if it does not happen, then where the zero-sum game is made, then the result is also zero.
01:54But you are seeing that it is a very sensitive situation. Shah Mehmood Qureshi has gone on remand for 12 more days. The cases of 9th May are also intensifying. The cabinet has also approved the establishment of special courts under the HCCP Act 1997. First, tell me, why did you feel the need for these special courts while being on the military courts? And secondly, on the side of PTI, it is being given the impression that these courts are being made against PTI by making digital terrorism illegal. For instance, people like Rauf Hassan have to face these courts.
02:24No, these Pekka courts are serious courts. By the way, I feel pity for Rauf Hassan. I remember that when he used to talk to you privately, he used to be very annoyed with his digital people. And he used to say that neither do I know nor can I do anything. If I were there, I would have made him different. And when he started talking a couple of times, do you remember that his PTI was being trolled a lot. So, he is trapped as an information secretary.
02:49But this is a very serious issue. Earlier, I was talking about the Pekka courts and the firewalls. These things are coming out. This is a very big situation. But now look at one thing. The issue has become that there is a dirty face on everything. And people's anger has come more towards the army and less towards the government.
03:10And especially when Mr. Imran Khan has also given statements, he has made this distinction very clear that these are irrelevant people. The February 8 election is that. If the SIFC is formed, then the army has come forward in the economy. If this firewall comes, then people say that the firewall is not coming because there is a big issue in the country because the army is being criticized a lot.
03:30Now, the issue of Balochistan KP. Earlier, I was talking to you that this is a national need of the country. But now the impression has become that this is an army operation, which the army wants, because the ownership government does not take it so aggressively. The burden of all things has now come on the army. Now the army has to decide whether they can carry all these burdens. And if they are carrying it, then what is their capacity for their partners?
03:58I'm telling you, I'm getting scared now. Genuinely, I'm scared for the future of the country. Because if you do all the zero-sum games and sit down, if the court also goes into zero-sum mode, the army will also go, this politician is there, Imran Khan is also in the game, then what will happen? Then there will be some scary kind of smoke. Then the whole system will go up and down.
04:20The fear that you are talking about, a zero-sum game and the map that you are making, tell me that in such a situation, the lack of capacity of the government has also come, it is very obvious, the lack of legitimacy is also present in its place. How long does it remain stable?
04:41And is it so strict? I go back to the question that you are also taking the headlong judiciary head-on, you are also taking this brunt, but unfortunately, all its burden falls on the institution.
04:50And economy is a mess, remember that too, today there is a shocking news, two brothers stabbed each other for paying a bill of 15,000. Factories are closing, factories are closing, economy is a mess, 25 billion dollars, you have to pay off your debts in the next three years.
05:07Your finance minister is sitting in China right now, he is pleading with the Chinese, for God's sake, schedule a debt freeze, it may make a difference of 4-5 rupees, this is the state of the economy, this is the state of law and order, this is our political stalemate, if everyone is not stubborn about this, then you tell me, this is not the Qur'an Sharif of the country, which has been taken up by Allah, that no, nothing will change.
05:34No, then one second, one minute, hang on, so one second, Khawaja Asad said yesterday that if Imran Khan's statement is made in the establishment, that is no problem for us, we are okay with that, it should be done.
05:45I don't think he means it.
06:15You have seen the judiciary, you are only looking at one decision, look ahead a little, tribunals should be made and tribunals should be protected, the law has been made, a retired judge will be appointed, after the meeting of the Lahore High Court, the Chief Justice of the Election Commission said that the same judge will remain, whom we have nominated, the Chief Justice of Islamabad said that the same judge, Justice Jahangiri will remain, and the campaigns that followed, we all know the reason for that.
06:41That this whole system can be unravelled, this whole system is like a deck of cards, that you will remove one thing and the whole system will fall apart.
06:50The courts have the right to stop the decision of the martial law state by force.
06:54Now I was coming to that, that in Athar Manila's speech, the element of democracy, how strongly he said that democracy should be protected.
07:02Now listen to the proceedings of the full court proceedings of the Sitara Rukni Bench.
07:07Athar Manila was repeatedly saying that we will have to lift the most important petition of the elections.
07:13Now what is the fear here?
07:15The fear is that the case will stop only till the special sessions of the court.
07:19No, this case will also come to the tribunals, this case can even come to the elections.
07:22Khwaja Asif Sahib himself is also saying.
07:23And like a domino effect, you can see that things get out of control.
07:26And a domino effect is that if these things start to open, then the whole system will fall apart.
07:31The system that was made with so much difficulty through Form 47, or in whatever way a system was made.
07:38See, this is also the fear of the system falling.
07:41And that is why I feel that everyone has entered a closed lane.
07:44Let me take a pause, what role can Imran Khan play in this closed lane?
07:47The case of 1971 can be brought to the courts again and again.
07:51Because of which his community is repeatedly in trouble.
07:55Is that the best strategy?