• 5 months ago
During a House Oversight Committee hearing on Monday, Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA) asked Secret Service Director Kimberley Cheatle whether proliferation of firearms makes her job easier.

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00:00I hope the American people do appreciate the incredible daily risks Secret Service agents
00:08take on our behalf.
00:10You mentioned there are 36 regular clients you've got that you protect constantly, but
00:18I was participating in the NATO Summit just two weeks ago.
00:21We had 32 heads of government and heads of state, plus visiting heads of state and heads
00:26of government.
00:27Presumably you provided protection for all of them.
00:30That is correct.
00:32Just saying.
00:35Help us understand, however, I will stipulate that there's an ongoing investigation.
00:42You don't want to go into too much detail on that until you've been able to ascertain
00:46all the facts and analyze what they mean.
00:49You can understand, however, the anxiety we and the American public have about how could
00:54this happen and how can we ensure it can't recur.
01:01Now there are some things my friends on one particular side of the aisle don't really
01:07want to talk about, like AR-15s and access to them by a 20-year-old, or anybody for that
01:14matter.
01:15Presumably, Director Cheadle, the ubiquity of weapons, guns in America, especially assault
01:24weapons or semi-automatic weapons, that's helped your job and the mission of your agencies.
01:30Right?
01:31It's made it less complicated.
01:33Isn't that true?
01:34I'm sorry.
01:35I'm not understanding your question.
01:37Real simple.
01:38More guns, especially dangerous ones, have made your job protecting people easier.
01:44Is that not right?
01:47I think at from every state
01:50Director Cheadle, this is simple English.
01:53More guns, do they make your job more complicated or less complicated in protecting these 36
02:01clients and visiting heads of state and heads of government that come to Washington?
02:05I think the Secret Service needs to take into account
02:08I didn't ask that.
02:09I'm sorry.
02:10I asked a simple question, which deserves a simple answer.
02:14The ubiquity of guns, dangerous weapons in America, like AR-15s, has that made your job,
02:22that is to say the mission of the Secret Service, easier or more difficult?
02:27I think the threat environment for protecting our Secret Service protectees is always difficult,
02:33and that's dynamic, and it's always evolving.
02:36We stipulate it's always difficult.
02:39Again, this is a simple one.
02:44Does the ubiquity of guns make your job easier or more difficult today?
02:50I understand the Second Amendment rights of individuals.
02:52I didn't ask that question.
02:54I'm not questioning the Second Amendment.
02:56I'm asking a simple analysis, Director Cheadle, and I can tell you, you're not making my job
03:02easier in terms of assessing your qualification for continuing on as director.
03:10Please answer the question.
03:11You're the head of the Secret Service.
03:14You're speaking on behalf of 8,000 members who put their lives on the line.
03:17We just had a failure by your own admission.
03:20Do guns make your job easier or harder?
03:24I think the job of the Secret Service is difficult on every day, and we need to make sure that
03:29we are mitigating all threats, whether that be weapons or personnel.
03:32That isn't my question.
03:34That is not my question, and now I think you're evading the answer, which is not a hard one.
03:41I am sorry that you feel that way, sir.
03:44How else could I feel, Director Cheadle, when you're clearly avoiding a direct answer to
03:49a very simple declarative question?
03:52We almost lost a presidential candidate the other day.
03:57A 20-year-old had access to his father's AR-15 and got on top of a roof within 500 yards
04:04or feet of the podium, and I'm asking you, did the availability of that AR-15, which
04:12is replicated all across America, make your job harder or easier, and you're not willing
04:17to answer that question?
04:18And you wonder why we might have a lack of confidence in your continued ability to direct
04:25this agency?
04:26I understand your question, and that's the environment—
04:28Well, if you understand my question, why not answer it?
04:31Because it's the environment that the Secret Service works in every day.
04:36That doesn't tell me anything.
04:39That's the environment we work in.
04:43I had an attack on my office a year ago.
04:46I know a little bit about violence, too.
04:50He came to kill me.
04:52If he couldn't, he beat one of my staffers eight times with a baseball bat on the head.
04:58We live with the threat of violence.
05:00But a simple answer from the director of the Secret Service would be helpful, and I'm
05:06sorry you've chosen to evade it.
05:08I yield back.
05:09Chair, I recognize Mr. Grofman from Wisconsin.
05:18When this guy took—

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