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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Arya Mehman with the program Swaala Ke Saat.

00:13Today's top stories are about the breakdown of the government.

00:16The government takes a decision and then steps back for a while.

00:20We will talk about the loss of decision-making in the first part of the program.

00:24Then we will talk about the PTI's decision to issue three references,

00:28which includes the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan,

00:31the Chief Justice of the Islamabad High Court and the Head of the Election Commission of Pakistan.

00:35We will talk about this in the second part of the program.

00:37In the end, politics is going in a closed lane.

00:39There is no point of view from anywhere.

00:42We will talk about where this whole matter will go in the last part of the program.

00:45But first, let's talk about the current government.

00:48There is a decision and it is announced.

00:51Since the decision has not been shown, it seems that the decision has to be withdrawn.

00:56There are many such examples.

00:57First of all, if we look at the announcement made by the government on the ban on the movement of justice,

01:01I think they must have done full homework.

01:03After that, they are taking such a big step.

01:05It is announced.

01:06And after that, people within the government's own camp, within the PMLN,

01:10start distancing from this decision and say that this is not a final result yet.

01:17This is the first example.

01:18Let's see.

01:19The loyal government will move the case to ban PTI.

01:23There is a lot of credible evidence that a ban on the movement of justice should be imposed.

01:26This decision will obviously be seen by the leadership first.

01:30After that, we will consult with our allies.

01:32And it will be under the law.

01:34The declaration did not go in front of the cabinet.

01:37The cabinet will consider it.

01:39If the point is that the declaration is based on evidence,

01:43then the declaration will be announced and presented in the Supreme Court.

01:48As far as the ban on PTI is concerned,

01:50this is a suggestion.

01:52And we will further discuss this suggestion with our political allies.

01:57I want to give my personal opinion.

01:59There should not be a ban on the political community.

02:04It seems that everyone threw him under the bus.

02:06And in this country, the information minister is loyal.

02:09But in someone's personal opinion, it seems that the government may not act on this decision.

02:15But given the public positioning, it does not seem that there is a ban on this decision.

02:20The second decision, which was to stop the operation Azme.

02:24The impression was given that it will be a military operation.

02:29Or it will be an operation of some law enforcement agency.

02:32And then the government said that this is not an operation.

02:36This will be an extension of the National Action Plan.

02:39So it was announced first.

02:41Then came the reaction of the ANP and other political parties.

02:45So we had to take a few steps back.

02:47Look at this.

02:49Azme needs a permanent operation.

02:51A permanent operation has been decided.

02:54In yesterday's meeting, the minister of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was present.

02:59All this was discussed in front of him.

03:01It was resolved in front of him that these actions will be taken against terrorism.

03:06Today, he is standing with terrorists by demonstrating here.

03:10We will go through our process and enforce it.

03:14Today, it will be presented in the Cabinet.

03:16Then there will be a discussion in the House.

03:19At no time did we think that this will be decided by the National Action Plan Committee.

03:26Then the process will start.

03:28The concerns expressed by the JUI, ANP and PTI, we will definitely address their concerns.

03:38The third example is the Judicial Package.

03:41It was announced.

03:43The ministers of different governments, including the legal adviser,

03:49kept saying that a Judicial Package is coming.

03:52It is being considered.

03:53It was not denied.

03:54Later, when the decision of the special sessions came,

03:57it was connected to the Judicial Package.

04:00It was said that it was rejected by the court.

04:02Then the government officials came and told everyone that there was no such Judicial Package.

04:07They are bringing a Judicial Package.

04:09The term of Chief Justice will be extended to 3 years.

04:12Or the retirement of Supreme Court Judges will be extended to 68 years,

04:15more than 65 years.

04:16I will not do it now because this task has not yet been entrusted to me as a Law Minister.

04:23I will not do it now because this task has not yet been entrusted to me as a Law Minister.

04:26If this proposal comes from any corner, from any parliamentary party or from any reference,

04:34then they will have the right.

04:36The Constitutional Package is on the cards.

04:38And I am saying this from my experience.

04:40I think that the package is necessary in the coming time.

04:43So that there is an equilibrium between the institutions in Pakistan.

04:48And in democracies, it is not the case that one institution starts fighting with another.

04:51Absolutely right.

04:52So I think this package is coming.

04:54The Chief Justice is thinking of extending the term of Chief Justice to 3 years.

04:58In the case of majority rule or majority rule.

05:01Or the retirement of Supreme Court Judges will be extended to 68 years.

05:04Then the news came that the Chief Justice has sent a message through the Attorney General

05:09that I am not interested in any kind of discrimination.

05:12Is this right?

05:13If you have to give across the board in the whole country,

05:16then you should give it to the judges as well.

05:18So that it has a complete impact and there is no discrimination in it.

05:21For that, a constitutional amendment is needed.

05:23But we were not dying for it.

05:25We want to give it necessarily.

05:27I am a witness to this myself after the meeting of the Judicial Commission.

05:31They asked that such things are going on.

05:33I said, sir, these are all rumors.

05:35They said, you did very well.

05:37The Attorney General was with me.

05:38You have clarified this.

05:41We will talk about the program.

05:42We have with us Mr. Mian Javed Latif.

05:44Thank you very much, Mr. Javed Latif, for joining us.

05:46Sir, I have given 2-3 examples.

05:48It was necessary to tell you this.

05:50Because these are 30-35-40 years of politics.

05:53In decision making, we see that a decision is announced

05:56and then it is not followed up.

05:58The ban is the latest example.

06:00There was no discussion in the party.

06:02No one was on board.

06:03Neither did the extremists know.

06:05They also came to know later.

06:06You announce the first decisions.

06:08Then you have to backtrack from them.

06:11What is this?

06:12Why is this happening?

06:17Thank you, Maria.

06:18But as far as my experience is concerned,

06:22as long as we see things,

06:25it is very clear that the ministerial information

06:30is the translation of any government.

06:33If another minister says something,

06:36it can be passed on.

06:39But the translation of the government

06:42does not speak like this.

06:46As long as there is no consensus,

06:49as long as the government...

06:52I don't understand how this can be done

06:55without consultation.

06:57It is not appropriate.

06:59And if there has been a consultation,

07:01then someone else is doing something else.

07:04That is also wrong.

07:05But as far as the question is,

07:07whether there is a ban on a political party or not,

07:12there are no restrictions on political parties.

07:15But there are no restrictions on political parties.

07:18There have been restrictions on terrorist groups

07:22or groups that have a military wing.

07:27According to the law,

07:29there are still restrictions on terrorist groups.

07:35And as far as the PTI is concerned,

07:38as I have said before,

07:41it is not possible to imagine

07:44that a political party can be restricted

07:47without consulting with a political party.

07:52And especially on 9th and 10th May,

07:55after that, there is no political party.

07:58Secondly, I am not talking about the PTI,

08:03I am talking in general terms.

08:05I am talking about any party.

08:07The law of Pakistan does not allow

08:11you to overrule the interests of your state

08:17and sell the interests of your state

08:20and give preference to the interests of another state.

08:24Then you will violate the law

08:27and you will be subject to treason.

08:29But Mr. Javed Latif,

08:30the problem is that after 9th May,

08:33if you say that there is no political party,

08:36then there is no restriction.

08:37You went to the elections.

08:39The election results are controversial.

08:41That is your point of view.

08:42You also agree.

08:43After four months of the election,

08:45there is a decision on special seats.

08:47When you feel that there will be no special seats,

08:49then you talk about restricting it.

08:51So this means that after the political Hikmati Amli failed,

08:54now there is only a way to restrict.

08:56If there was a restriction,

08:57then it was to be imposed after 9th May.

08:58Then there was no demand.

08:59No action was taken in this regard.

09:02Now politics is failing.

09:03This is happening because of this.

09:04Maria, you are right.

09:09You should not take a step on time

09:12and then make a decision.

09:15If new things have been created during this time,

09:19then what you are saying is right.

09:22Then people will understand in the same way.

09:24The thing is that when the people sitting in the Pakistani courts

09:28will facilitate,

09:30and I am not saying this on the first day,

09:33but I have been saying this for the past two years

09:36that they have facilitated.

09:39And then you saw that in one institution,

09:43which is a powerful institution,

09:45those who facilitated it were retired people

09:49or Hazard Service people.

09:51After 9th and 10th May,

09:53they had to settle themselves

09:55and then took action against many people.

09:58I am repeating this in the second institution.

10:01In the second institution,

10:03the settlement itself started,

10:04but then it stopped.

10:06Why did it stop?

10:07These things are coming out today.

10:09And in the same way,

10:10I will say this today as well,

10:12that when a special decision comes

10:17or on a special occasion,

10:19you remember all those old things,

10:22then people will look at it with suspicion.

10:24As I said,

10:26if you have to put restrictions

10:29against terrorists,

10:31against screaming,

10:33then you have to find a better opportunity

10:36than the 9th and 10th May Act.

10:40But that frame has come out.

10:43The problem is that politically,

10:45you do not have a solution.

10:47As a result of the court decisions,

10:49the sessions are held,

10:50and you are given two opinions.

10:52You cannot legislate.

10:54The fear is that after October,

10:56elections can be changed again,

10:58or the court will take it on.

11:00Who is scaring you?

11:02Where is this fear coming from?

11:04Look, I think that the political parties

11:08should rise above this fear.

11:12By ignoring this fear,

11:14you are talking about violating the law.

11:18The fact is that if the 2018 elections

11:22were wrong for me,

11:24and the RTS was right for me,

11:26then the rest of the people should have spoken.

11:28The media should have spoken.

11:30Today, it is being said that

11:32in October and November,

11:34there will be a petition

11:36regarding the 2024 elections,

11:38and there will be a decision on it.

11:40So, even if a decision is given

11:42on the 2018 elections,

11:44then today,

11:46no one is talking about the 2024 elections.

11:50Sir, you should go to the Supreme Court.

11:52Maria, one second.

11:54One second, please.

11:56When something does not suit someone,

11:58then they make a fuss about it.

12:00Similarly,

12:02if an act is against someone else,

12:04then no one is ready to talk about it,

12:06because the beneficiary of the act

12:08is the person himself.

12:10The point is that

12:12if you start doing something

12:14from 2014,

12:16then when the journey

12:18of Pakistan's destruction

12:20starts,

12:22then no one is ready to stop.

12:24And till today,

12:26no one is able to understand

12:28whether the people sitting

12:30in the RTIs are talking

12:32about the law,

12:34or the beneficiaries,

12:36or is it someone's ego?

12:38Mr. Javed, you have been doing this

12:40for the past two years.

12:42Your senior leadership should be doing this.

12:44Mr. Nawaz Sharif should be doing this.

12:46Mr. Imran Khan himself does this

12:48Mr. Shahbaz Sharif does this,

12:50Mr. Shahbaz Sharif does this.

12:52Maria,

12:54what you are saying

12:56that what I have been doing

12:58for the past two years,

13:00Mr. Nawaz Sharif should be doing this.

13:02Mr. Nawaz Sharif has been suffering

13:04from this for the past 25 years.

13:06And what he has been doing

13:08for the past 25 years,

13:10I am still talking about this,

13:12I am saying that

13:14if Mr. Nawaz Sharif

13:16does not open his mouth

13:18about the international pressure

13:20on Pakistan,

13:22and the people sitting

13:24in the RTIs of Pakistan

13:26take international pressure

13:28and take action

13:30against the interests of Pakistan,

13:32or take decisions,

13:34then if Mr. Nawaz Sharif

13:36does not open his mouth

13:38about the international

13:40pressure on Pakistan,

13:42or the interests of Pakistan,

13:44then today,

13:46that person,

13:48whose government has gone

13:50through distrust,

13:52no one has broken his government,

13:54no judicial coup has taken place,

13:56no martial law has been imposed,

13:58but those against whom martial law

14:00has been imposed, those against

14:02whom judicial coup has taken place,

14:04they are silent,

14:06but those whose government

14:08has gone through distrust,

14:10they are not silent,

14:12and the forces of the world

14:14are not taking a step back

14:16to force Pakistan,

14:18to force Pakistan,

14:20just because their beloved

14:22has been hurt,

14:24the one who was supposed

14:26to fulfill their agenda

14:28is in jail today,

14:30but someone tell me,

14:32when our governments

14:34used to end,

14:36when there was a judicial coup

14:38in our time,

14:40at that time,

14:42no one used to

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Sawal Yeh Hai | Maria Memon | ARY News | 20th July 2024

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