#fitch #ptiban #article6 #PPP #PTI #PMLN #bilawalbhutto#pakistaneconomycrisis #inflation #pmlngovt #pmshehbazsharif #imrankhan #pti #Mayorkarach #PPP
(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Ashfaq Satti
Guests:
- Hassan Ayub Khan (Analyst)
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
- Amir Zia (Analyst)
- Salman Abdullah Murad (Deputy Mayor Karachi)
Fitch report warns political turmoil could derail Pakistan’s economic recovery | Experts Analysis
PPP ki Siyasi Jamaton Ko Khatam Karnay ki Tareekh Hai..." Ather Kazmi's Analysis
"Ham Karachi Ki Khidmat Kar Rahe Hain Aur Kartay Rahegay..." Deputy Mayor Karachi
Follow the ARY News channel on WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/46e5HzY
Subscribe to our channel and press the bell icon for latest news updates: http://bit.ly/3e0SwKP
ARY News is a leading Pakistani news channel that promises to bring you factual and timely international stories and stories about Pakistan, sports, entertainment, and business, amid others.
(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Ashfaq Satti
Guests:
- Hassan Ayub Khan (Analyst)
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
- Amir Zia (Analyst)
- Salman Abdullah Murad (Deputy Mayor Karachi)
Fitch report warns political turmoil could derail Pakistan’s economic recovery | Experts Analysis
PPP ki Siyasi Jamaton Ko Khatam Karnay ki Tareekh Hai..." Ather Kazmi's Analysis
"Ham Karachi Ki Khidmat Kar Rahe Hain Aur Kartay Rahegay..." Deputy Mayor Karachi
Follow the ARY News channel on WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/46e5HzY
Subscribe to our channel and press the bell icon for latest news updates: http://bit.ly/3e0SwKP
ARY News is a leading Pakistani news channel that promises to bring you factual and timely international stories and stories about Pakistan, sports, entertainment, and business, amid others.
Category
🗞
NewsTranscript
00:00In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:16Peace be upon you.
00:17I am Ashfaq Sitti.
00:18I am here in front of all of you.
00:19This is the program of Ilaih Mithaur.
00:20I am very thankful to God that I was able to see that the Jaloos that took place on
00:23the occasion of Yaum-e-Ashur have reached their destination safely.
00:27The Karachi Jaloos ended with Hussain-e-Iranian and Lahore's Karwala-Gam-e-Shah.
00:34And overall, the security arrangements, the leadership's side also expressed satisfaction.
00:40So, that was good news.
00:42I am sure that the issues related to the connectivity of the internet and various social media websites
00:47will also be sorted by the people.
00:49In today's program, overall, we will talk about many important issues.
00:53First of all, I am very surprised to see the report of Fitch.
00:57Think about it.
00:58It is an institution that keeps an eye on financial matters.
01:01And when it comes to governance matters, when the government has to go, when it has to
01:06stay, who has to stay in jail, when it comes to this issue, it is a very surprising matter.
01:12The details in this are basically shared in the form of slides in front of you.
01:17The current account of Rawa Mali Saal is at a loss.
01:20Fitch has said that it can stay up to 1% of GDP.
01:23Along with this, Rawa Mali Saal's commercial loss has been predicted to be 7.7% of GDP.
01:29Then, regarding the dollar, it has been said that the dollar can go up further.
01:33That is, it can reach the price of 310 rupees.
01:36Regarding the next general elections, it has been said that it will be held in 2029.
01:40That is, it will be held for 5 years.
01:42It has been said that no Prime Minister in Pakistan has been able to complete his tour
01:46for 5 years.
01:47In Pakistan, the financial impact was due to political instability and security threats.
01:52If the political instability increases, there is a risk of derailing the country's economic
01:57recovery.
01:58In the financial year 2026, the GDP growth is predicted to be 3.8%, that is, 3.8%.
02:07And in the financial year 2027, this number will remain of 3.8%.
02:12Along with this, in Rawa Mali Saal, the fixed income has been predicted to be 410,497 rupees.
02:20And in the next financial year, the fixed income has been predicted to be 442,024 rupees.
02:26So, these were basically some numbers about which Fitch's report has been discussed.
02:32Apart from that, there was a very disturbing incident related to Karachi.
02:35We will also talk about it.
02:36We will try to take the Deputy Mayor and try to get to know him.
02:40The issues of Karachi are important because it is a mini Pakistan.
02:43It is the largest populated city in Pakistan.
02:46And there are many issues there.
02:48The issue of garbage is its own place.
02:50The issue of water is its own place.
02:52The issue of water hydrants is its own place.
02:54The issue of electricity is its own place.
02:56The issue of the destruction of roads is its own place.
02:59The issues related to health are its own place.
03:01And then there is the issue of open manholes.
03:06That is, they are not covered.
03:08Children, old people, young people, women, everyone is losing their lives because of them.
03:15If we talk about 2023, 68 people including women and children died because of these open manholes.
03:24Now, this is one issue.
03:25The second issue is that even if they are covered with tarps, they are of such poor quality that…
03:32In the recent incident, you can see that the children were playing in the manhole.
03:37They were standing there.
03:38What happened was that they could not bear the weight of the children and they sat down.
03:41As a result, you can see that two children lost their lives.
03:44And the rest of the children were rescued.
03:46But this is very scientific.
03:48One is that corruption is to such an extent that things of poor quality are made.
03:53But even if they are covered, the tarps are being stolen in this way.
03:58Where is their tarp being sold?
04:00And even before this, in our morning shows, here and there, we talked about this in the news.
04:05What action was taken against these junkies?
04:08Because if the tarp is removed or this frame is removed, it will be sold somewhere.
04:13What is the reason for this?
04:14Who will pay attention to this?
04:15And especially when claims are made that we will make the city a sister state of a particular place,
04:21we will connect it from a particular place, we will develop it in this way,
04:24then these are the basic things that need to be worked on.
04:27Because when surveillance comes on someone, it affects them the most.
04:31So anyway, the way the Deputy Mayor will connect us now,
04:35we will try to learn more from him as to what is happening.
04:38But for now, let's take a look at the report of FIJ.
04:43We will introduce you to the guests who are joining us on the program.
04:47Mr. Atar Kazmi is a Senior Investigator, he will be with us.
04:50Along with him, Amir Zia is joining us.
04:54He is a Senior Analyst. Thank you very much, Amir bhai, for being with us.
04:58And Mr. Hassan Ayyub is also joining us. He is a Senior Investigator.
05:01So let's talk to him.
05:03The overall political situation that has developed at the moment,
05:07and especially this surprising report that has come out.
05:10So starting from you, Mr. Amir Zia.
05:13Obviously, you also keep an eye on these matters.
05:17From the side of FIJ, these predictions that the government will remain for so long,
05:22and that Bani of PTI has made a prophecy that he will continue to live in jail,
05:29where do these news reach them, to institutions like FIJ?
05:33On what basis are they making such predictions?
05:37Mr. Sajid, the thing is that we have also worked a little,
05:40these international wire services,
05:43and these are such institutions that keep an eye on the economy,
05:47like the Economist Intelligence Unit, Finch, Moody's,
05:51so their information gathering is very strong.
05:54And they usually hire the best minds, both local and non-local,
05:59about a country.
06:00Obviously, when you are investing money, you are advising an investor,
06:04and you tell him all its risks.
06:06So their information is not so speculative.
06:10Obviously, they have some ground information,
06:13they talk to political players, they talk to the investors here.
06:17So on the basis of that, they give their own assessment.
06:20Sometimes there is exaggeration in that assessment,
06:23that we are here, we are probably not seeing that thing so big,
06:26but the one who is sitting in another country,
06:28there are very surprising things for him.
06:30But one thing should be understood,
06:33number one, the message we get is that the international institutions
06:38are not so optimistic about this system.
06:41Whether it is wrong or right, this is their assessment.
06:44Okay, secondly, they also see that if they are not optimistic about this government,
06:48they also see that this party, in the form of PTI,
06:53they don't see a very promising future.
06:56Okay, we will be able to talk about that,
06:59I think when we get a chance in the future,
07:01why are there reasons for that, what are the reasons.
07:03So, from the political class,
07:06you will see that they are not seeing a very promising future.
07:12Then the second thing is that if you talk about financial reforms,
07:15then you see, we have all been criticizing,
07:18that you don't see a vision in that.
07:20Through the same tried and tested formulas,
07:22they have tried to meet the conditions of the IMF.
07:26That is, they have not increased the net tax,
07:31they have deepened it.
07:33They have deepened it.
07:35That is, the same salary class and the same big corporate.
07:38That is, the one whose neck is in a shackle, he is trapped.
07:42The same poor man is trapped, the oppressed like you and me.
07:46So, they understand there too.
07:48So, you can't reject it all of a sudden,
07:50but this is a kind of messaging for the Shahbaz government.
07:55You can change your destiny.
07:57So, if they see this, then if Shahbaz Sharif takes this seriously,
08:01the government takes it seriously, addresses those issues,
08:04brings stability to the country,
08:06and the economic policies are made a little realistic,
08:09the belt tightening is done,
08:11by belt tightening I mean austerity,
08:13then your state,
08:15it shouldn't be that you have put all the burden on the common man,
08:18and the rulers are noisy,
08:20they are not even ready to reduce their pockets,
08:23they are not even ready to reduce their car expenses.
08:25Exactly.
08:26They are increasing their burdens and privileges.
08:28The point is that the purpose of getting control of the IMF is not that
08:32you pass on the message of everything.
08:34If the IMF has said that you will have to see harsh conditions,
08:37then tell the Shahbaz Sharif people that you will have to see harsh conditions.
08:41So, this is not one-way traffic.
08:43If you allow me one sentence,
08:44I know that Hathar Kazmi and Mr. Hassan have a very good opinion.
08:47Look, the IMF does not go into your nitty-gritties.
08:50The IMF says that you have to keep your budget deficit at this percentage.
08:55Now, how do you keep it?
08:57You hang it on the back of a horse,
08:59you ride it on your back,
09:00that is not the purpose.
09:01They say that you should spend as much as your income.
09:05Okay.
09:06So, if you have increased your PSDP,
09:08you have increased your government spending by 30-62%,
09:12this is a crime.
09:14You expect me to work in a low budget,
09:16you people are not ready to do it.
09:19You have to lead from the front.
09:21That should be the case so that the public can follow you.
09:23Mr. Hassan Ayyub, what is your point of view?
09:25My opinion is that when you do such things,
09:30it is okay that you are expressing an opinion based on your experience
09:34or keeping the economy in mind,
09:37but how does its impact and speculation glorify itself?
09:42And of course, it will have an impact on our stock market as well as on our government.
09:46So, do you think that this is the right thing to do,
09:48which has been done by Fitch?
09:52Look, they have obviously given their opinion,
09:58based on their knowledge or information,
10:00whatever data they had, they have auctioned it.
10:04But the politics of Pakistan is very different.
10:07And in the politics of Pakistan,
10:09you change the situation in a matter of weeks or hours.
10:13So, to say that the Bali chairman will be in jail for 5 years,
10:20I would like to confirm this.
10:22I have been saying this for a long time that
10:24Mr. Imran Khan will be in jail for a long time.
10:27But will he be there for 5 years or 4 more years?
10:31I don't see this happening.
10:33I think that the duration of his stay in jail will be less than that.
10:37This is one thing.
10:39The second thing that they are saying is that
10:41the economic difficulties of Pakistan,
10:43I will get rid of the Fitch projection in the coming days.
10:49The economic conditions are not good at the moment.
10:53And no one in Pakistan, who has money,
10:57is ready to take it out and put it in the market.
11:01Right now, 25.5% of the Indian economy is in the hands of Fitch.
11:07Right now, there is a 20.5% interest rate.
11:10In such a situation, which industry can operate
11:13by taking a loan from the banks?
11:15Or in such a situation,
11:17who will put their money in the market instead of keeping it in the bank?
11:20So, these are some things.
11:22We have our own difficulties.
11:24Did you say something?
11:26I was saying that there is so much uncertainty.
11:28So, secondly, this prediction about the government
11:30of 18 months, that after that,
11:32a technocrat setup will come.
11:34What are you foreseeing?
11:36Is it on the cards?
11:38No, I was saying that
11:40the projection about the politics of Pakistan,
11:44or including Imran Khan's arrest,
11:47or being in jail,
11:49I don't agree with both of them.
11:51Here, people are saying that this is a government.
11:55This won't even last for a year.
11:57But some people are saying that it will last for 5 years.
12:00So, to say about this,
12:02it will be a waste of time.
12:04I don't think it is possible to talk about the politics of Pakistan
12:07for more than 2-3 months.
12:09Even the greatest politician,
12:11or the greatest journalist,
12:13if he talks about such a long term,
12:15then it will not be 19-20,
12:17it will be 10-20.
12:19So, the politics of Pakistan runs very fast.
12:21Now, see, someone had thought that
12:23Atta Tarar will talk about running a case
12:25under Article 17,
12:27or Article 6,
12:29that is,
12:31a month ago,
12:33it was not even in anyone's imagination,
12:35but suddenly it came out.
12:37And today is the 3rd or 4th day.
12:39Meaning, all your debates have changed.
12:42Earlier, it was about the Iddat case.
12:44Earlier, it was about other cases of Imran Khan.
12:47But now, the issue is that
12:49no one is talking about the mosque.
12:51No one is talking about other issues of Pakistan.
12:54No one is talking about the increase in electricity prices.
12:56No one is talking about the problems of the common man,
12:58when there is going to be a monsoon,
13:00when there could be floods.
13:02No one is talking about Imran Khan.
13:04The real issue is that there should be a discussion on this.
13:06Mr. Atal Ghazmi,
13:08I would also like to get your point of view on this,
13:10because we have also been joined by
13:12Mr. Salman Abdullah Murad,
13:14who is the Deputy Mayor of Karachi.
13:16I would like to talk to him about the incident in Karachi,
13:18and I will also get your point of view on this.
13:20But first, please give your opinion on this.
13:22This report by FIJ,
13:24do you think that the days of this government
13:26have been counted,
13:28and they are not able to predict
13:30what is going to happen in Karachi?
14:00There can be no political activity
14:02in the government of Karachi.
14:04Is there any positive impact
14:06on the outside world?
14:08For the past 2-3 days,
14:10one political party has been sitting
14:12with the government of Karachi,
14:14and they have blocked the roads.
14:16Are we sending the message to the world
14:18that come here, your capital is safe,
14:20there is stability here?
14:22What are we doing on the ground?
14:24What message have we sent to the world?
14:26The message we send,
14:28the world is watching,
14:30that a woman worker is released,
14:32and the police arrest her again.
14:34So what do you think,
14:36the whole world will not look at her,
14:38will not notice her,
14:40what is happening?
14:42So this is the problem.
14:44Then what is the nature of the debate?
14:46I am not talking about today,
14:48you can see the past 2-2.5 years.
14:50The ministers of PDM-1,
14:52used to sit on TV and say
14:54that the Supreme Court's order has come,
14:56and there is a debate in this country
14:58whether the decision will be followed.
15:00After that, there is talk of restrictions.
15:02We will talk about this too.
15:04After July 12,
15:06the political landscape has changed.
15:08Where is this going?
15:10Meanwhile, as I mentioned,
15:12the horrific incident that took place
15:14in Karachi,
15:16and these open manholes
15:18are killing innocent citizens,
15:20whether they are old,
15:22children, women,
15:24everyone is affected by this.
15:26The recent incident has shaken everyone.
15:28Salman Abdullah Murad,
15:30basically this is such a matter,
15:32if we talk about the numbers of 2023,
15:34if we talk about the numbers of 2024,
15:36so far 13 people have died in this.
15:38And this is the area of Memangot,
15:40this is your circle in a way.
15:42So what is the reason
15:44that the media talks about this
15:46when such an incident happens?
15:48But these incidents have not been able to be stopped,
15:50nor has the government
15:52been able to stop them.
15:54And there is no policy in this regard.
15:56There are still thousands of gutters in the city
15:58on which the covers are not present.
16:00And this is a very serious matter.
16:02Yes, today's incident is a very
16:04regrettable incident.
16:06It was a heartbreaking incident.
16:08As soon as I got the information,
16:10I reached there on the spot.
16:12And I want to tell you that
16:14this is a private society.
16:16A builder has launched this society.
16:18And it is his responsibility
16:20to provide sewerage lines,
16:22water lines, electricity.
16:24But he did not do it.
16:26And when this incident happened,
16:28I went there and visited.
16:30When I saw there,
16:32everyone was in front of their houses
16:34and dug wells
16:36for the sewerage system.
16:38And today,
16:40he had held
16:42an event
16:44on the sewerage system.
16:46And there was a large
16:48crowd of children
16:50there.
16:52They were distributing
16:54langar there.
16:56I asked them
16:58why.
17:00They said that our children
17:02ate langar here.
17:04And because of the rush,
17:06the roof was broken.
17:08Because of that,
17:10they fell into the well.
17:12About 8 people fell.
17:14Two children
17:16passed away.
17:18Three were shifted to the hospital.
17:20The rest were rescued.
17:22Two were martyred.
17:24The rest were taken to their homes.
17:26It is a really sad incident.
17:28But the thing is,
17:30it has become easier
17:32that you are blaming
17:34the society.
17:36So whose responsibility was it
17:38to manage these things?
17:40Or to take care of the quality
17:42of the manhole?
17:44Whose responsibility was it?
17:46The manhole was not a manhole.
17:48It was a well.
17:50The responsibility of a private
17:52builder is to make
17:54the development work.
17:56It was a private society.
17:58So now,
18:00will there be a case against them?
18:02What can be done in this regard?
18:04In this regard,
18:06the one who is negligent
18:08should take action against the builder.
18:10It is his responsibility
18:12to make the development work.
18:14It is his responsibility.
18:16It is his responsibility.
18:18It is a private society.
18:20In this regard,
18:22I met the lawyer.
18:24I expressed my condolences.
18:26It was a painful incident.
18:28A father of a young son
18:30was killed in this incident.
18:32There is no other end to it.
18:34It is the responsibility
18:36of the builder.
18:38We will enquire about it.
18:40It is an isolated incident.
18:42Amir Zia can relate
18:44as a citizen of Karachi.
18:46Let's take the example of 2023.
18:4868 people lost their lives.
18:50Before this incident,
18:5213 people lost their lives.
18:54So far this year.
18:56Overall, there are problems in the city.
18:58There is no gutter.
19:00If there is a gutter,
19:02it will disappear.
19:04You said that you will take action
19:06against the builders.
19:08Has there been any progress?
19:10In this regard,
19:12we have...
19:18We will try to reconnect you.
19:20There is a network issue.
19:22As I said earlier,
19:24it should be sorted.
19:26Do you want to add anything?
19:28It is a relatable issue.
19:32If you allow me,
19:34he said that
19:36private housing
19:38was developed.
19:40Even if it is private,
19:42there will be a regulator.
19:44The government of Pakistan
19:46will be the regulator.
19:48If someone is responsible,
19:50who is responsible?
19:52You allowed people to shift.
19:54You did not see
19:56if there is a water line
19:58or sewage line.
20:00Even then, it is the responsibility
20:02of the government of Sindh and Baldia.
20:04Secondly, you are right
20:06that these are unimportant issues
20:08that the people of Karachi
20:10face.
20:12Whether it is a gutter,
20:14or a stray dog bite in this city.
20:16Last year, it probably bit
20:1850 people.
20:20I have never seen so many stray dogs
20:22in my life.
20:24Now, they are roaming around.
20:26You tell me,
20:28this is a needless pain.
20:30The people sitting in a big car
20:32do not care about this.
20:34But the one who is going on a motorcycle
20:36and the one who picks up garbage
20:38is going on foot.
20:40There is a problem.
20:42It is a genuine problem.
20:44Yesterday, a friend told me
20:46that we leave from one place
20:48at night.
20:50Now, you tell me,
20:52how much is the pain of the people of Karachi?
20:54That you do not put a gutter,
20:56you do not give water to drink,
20:58you do not let your dogs roam around.
21:00What have you made of this city?
21:02This is what happens.
21:04You have made this city.
21:06And you are saying that we are making progress.
21:08You see, there is a decay everywhere.
21:10Solid waste management is zero.
21:12You will see in big settlements
21:14where a lot of garbage is burnt.
21:16I am saying the same thing.
21:18Now, these are the problems
21:20that are not found in Islamabad or Lahore,
21:22but are found in Karachi.
21:24Mr. Salman has come with us.
21:26Now, tell me,
21:28as I was mentioning,
21:30that these incidents are happening
21:32even beyond this.
21:34I gave the example of 2023,
21:36then I gave the example of 2024,
21:38the incidents up to July.
21:40So, till now, you were telling
21:42what you have done.
21:44Especially, as the line was not connected,
21:46the society has a regulator
21:48who keeps an eye on them.
21:50Now, the responsibility of the government
21:52comes at the end.
21:54See, in this regard,
21:56we have empowered the same chairman,
21:58all our town chairmen.
22:00Mr. Murtaza Wahab
22:02has made a water board
22:04in his factory
22:06to make drains and covers.
22:08For many years,
22:10he has been regulating it.
22:12So, in this regard,
22:14the previous rulers in the city
22:16have cut China in this city.
22:18There are shops built on the drains.
22:20I don't know what has happened
22:22with this city.
22:24I am saying that
22:26we have to end this
22:30and this year,
22:32we have done a lot of work.
22:34But, Mr. Salman,
22:36we are talking about something else.
22:38See, we are not telling you that
22:40the problem is that
22:42people have been doing this
22:44and we are doing better.
22:46We are saying that we are doing better.
22:48Each and every life is precious.
22:50Mr. Amir.
22:52See, for 15 years,
22:54we have had the government
22:56of Pakistan People's Party.
22:58And the government of the city
23:00had no authority.
23:02All the authority
23:04is with you,
23:06with the government of Sindh.
23:08From solid waste management
23:10you are saying that we had nothing.
23:12You are running the city.
23:14Who has the courage to run it?
23:16It's been a year.
23:18It's been a year.
23:20It's been a year.
23:22It's been a year.
23:24It's been a year.
23:26It's been a year.
23:28It's been a year.
23:30It's been a year.
23:32It's been a year.
23:34It's been a year.
23:36It's been a year.
23:38It's been a year.
23:40It's been a year.
23:42It's been a year.
23:44It's been a year.
23:46It's been a year.
23:48It's been a year.
23:50It's been a year.
23:52It's been a year.
23:54It's been a year.
23:56It's been a year.
23:58It's been a year.
24:00It's been a year.
24:02It's been a year.
24:04It's been a year.
24:06It's been a year.
24:08It's been a year.
24:10It's been a year.
24:12It's been a year.
24:14It's been a year.
24:16It's been a year.
24:18It's been a year.
24:20It's been a year.
24:22It's been a year.
24:24It's been a year.
24:26It's been a year.
24:28It's been a year.
24:30It's been a year.
24:32It's been a year.
24:34It's been a year.
24:36It's been a year.
24:38It's been a year.
24:40It's been a year.
24:42It's been a year.
24:44It's been a year.
24:46It's been a year.
24:48It's been a year.
24:50It's been a year.
24:52It's been a year.
24:54It's been a year.
24:56It's been a year.
24:58It's been a year.
25:00It's been a year.
25:02It's been a year.
25:04It's been a year.
25:06It's been a year.
25:08It's been a year.
25:10It's been a year.
25:12It's been a year.
25:14It's been a year.
25:16It's been a year.
25:18It's been a year.
25:20It's been a year.
25:22It's been a year.
25:24It's been a year.
25:26It's been a year.
25:28It's been a year.
25:30It's been a year.
25:32It's been a year.
25:34It's been a year.
25:36It's been a year.
25:38It's been a year.
25:40It's been a year.
25:42It's been a year.
25:44It's been a year.
25:46It's been a year.
25:48It's been a year.
25:50It's been a year.
25:52It's been a year.
25:54It's been a year.
25:56It's been a year.
25:58It's been a year.
26:00It's been a year.
26:02It's been a year.
26:04It's been a year.
26:06It's been a year.
26:08It's been a year.
26:10It's been a year.
26:12It's been a year.
26:14It's been a year.
26:16It's been a year.
26:18It's been a year.
26:20It's been a year.
26:22It's been a year.
26:24It's been a year.
26:26It's been a year.
26:28It's been a year.
26:30It's been a year.
26:32It's been a year.
26:34It's been a year.
26:36It's been a year.
26:38It's been a year.
26:40It's been a year.
26:42It's been a year.
26:44It's been a year.
26:46It's been a year.
26:48It's been a year.
26:50It's been a year.
26:52It's been a year.
26:54It's been a year.
26:56It's been a year.
26:58It's been a year.
27:00It's been a year.
27:02It's been a year.
27:04It's been a year.
27:06It's been a year.
27:08It's been a year.
27:10It's been a year.
27:12It's been a year.
27:14It's been a year.
27:16It's been a year.
27:18It's been a year.
27:20It's been a year.
27:22It's been a year.
27:24It's been a year.
27:26It's been a year.
27:28It's been a year.
27:30It's been a year.
27:32It's been a year.
27:34It's been a year.
27:36It's been a year.
27:38It's been a year.
27:40It's been a year.
27:42It's been a year.
27:44It's been a year.
27:46It's been a year.
27:48It's been a year.
27:50It's been a year.
27:52It's been a year.
27:54It's been a year.
27:56It's been a year.
27:58It's been a year.
28:00It's been a year.
28:02It's been a year.
28:04It's been a year.
28:06It's been a year.
28:08It's been a year.
28:10It's been a year.
28:12It's been a year.
28:14It's been a year.
28:16It's been a year.
28:18It's been a year.
28:20It's been a year.
28:22It's been a year.
28:24It's been a year.
28:26It's been a year.
28:28It's been a year.
28:30It's been a year.
28:32It's been a year.
28:34It's been a year.
28:36It's been a year.
28:38It's been a year.
28:40It's been a year.
28:42It's been a year.
28:44It's been a year.
28:46It's been a year.
28:48It's been a year.
28:50It's been a year.
28:52It's been a year.
28:54It's been a year.
28:56It's been a year.
28:58It's been a year.
29:00It's been a year.
29:02It's been a year.
29:04It's been a year.
29:06It's been a year.
29:08It's been a year.
29:10It's been a year.
29:12It's been a year.
29:14It's been a year.
29:16It's been a year.
29:18It's been a year.
29:20It's been a year.
29:22It's been a year.
29:24It's been a year.
29:26It's been a year.
29:28It's been a year.
29:30It's been a year.
29:32It's been a year.
29:34It's been a year.
29:36It's been a year.
29:38It's been a year.
29:40It's been a year.
29:42It's been a year.
29:44It's been a year.
29:46It's been a year.
29:48It's been a year.
29:50It's been a year.
29:52It's been a year.
29:54It's been a year.
29:56It's been a year.
29:58It's been a year.
30:00It's been a year.
30:02It's been a year.
30:04It's been a year.
30:06It's been a year.
30:08It's been a year.
30:10It's been a year.
30:12It's been a year.
30:14It's been a year.
30:16It's been a year.
30:18It's been a year.
30:20It's been a year.
30:22It's been a year.
30:24It's been a year.
30:26It's been a year.
30:28It's been a year.
30:30It's been a year.
30:32It's been a year.
30:34It's been a year.
30:36It's been a year.
30:38It's been a year.
30:40It's been a year.
30:42It's been a year.
30:44It's been a year.
30:46It's been a year.
30:48It's been a year.
30:50It's been a year.
30:52It's been a year.
30:54It's been a year.
30:56It's been a year.
30:58It's been a year.
31:00It's been a year.
31:02It's been a year.
31:04It's been a year.
31:06It's been a year.
31:08It's been a year.
31:10It's been a year.
31:12It's been a year.
31:14It's been a year.
31:16It's been a year.
31:18It's been a year.
31:20It's been a year.
31:22It's been a year.
31:24It's been a year.
31:26It's been a year.
31:28It's been a year.
31:30It's been a year.
31:32It's been a year.
31:34It's been a year.
31:36It's been a year.
31:38It's been a year.
31:40It's been a year.
31:42It's been a year.
31:44It's been a year.
31:46It's been a year.
31:48It's been a year.
31:50It's been a year.
31:52It's been a year.
31:54It's been a year.
31:56It's been a year.
31:58It's been a year.
32:00It's been a year.
32:02It's been a year.
32:04It's been a year.
32:06It's been a year.
32:08It's been a year.
32:10It's been a year.
32:12It's been a year.
32:14It's been a year.
32:16It's been a year.
32:18It's been a year.
32:20It's been a year.
32:22It's been a year.
32:24It's been a year.
32:26It's been a year.
32:28It's been a year.
32:30It's been a year.
32:32It's been a year.
32:34It's been a year.
32:36It's been a year.
32:38It's been a year.
32:40It's been a year.
32:42It's been a year.
32:44It's been a year.
32:46It's been a year.
32:48It's been a year.
32:50It's been a year.
32:52It's been a year.
32:54It's been a year.
32:56It's been a year.
32:58Welcome back to the show.
33:00We were talking about
33:02what is happening in the country's politics.
33:04What will be the situation
33:06after the FIJ report?
33:08Mr. Kazmi, after July 12th,
33:10we saw that
33:12there was a decision.
33:14There was another decision the next day.
33:16There was a relief.
33:18Mr. Tehreek-e-Insaf is getting relief.
33:20After that,
33:22there was a sudden change.
33:24There was an uproar
33:26at Atta Tarar's press conference.
33:28There were questions
33:30about Atta Tarar.
33:32Mr. Ishaq Dar said
33:34that there will be a consultation.
33:36Was it an abrupt decision
33:38or was there a plan
33:40to take action
33:42against Tehreek-e-Insaf?
33:46Obviously,
33:48if the Minister of Information
33:50is doing a press conference,
33:52he is not doing it
33:54against the government.
33:56He is representing the government.
33:58If you look at the reaction
34:00of other people in the government,
34:02we didn't see any interest
34:04in it.
34:06They are saying that
34:08this is a political party.
34:10The most important character
34:12is that of the Pakistan People's Party.
34:14They are saying that
34:16this is not the case.
34:18They are not saying
34:20that they are against the ban.
34:22The Noon League has not banned
34:24any party.
34:26But Pakistan People's Party
34:28has a history.
34:30Bhutto has banned
34:32the National Awami Party.
34:34Hyderabad Tribunal was created
34:36and cases of treason were filed
34:38against Habib Jalib.
34:40These people read poetry
34:42and become revolutionaries.
34:44What was the case against them?
34:46It was against the leadership
34:48of the ANP.
34:50They are treacherous.
34:52Pakistan People's Party
34:54has a history of
34:56banning other political parties.
34:58The Noon League is their ally.
35:00Whatever happens,
35:02both parties are doing it
35:04against their will.
35:06If we look at Atta Tarar's
35:08press conference,
35:10Sharjeel Mehman
35:12also participated in it.
35:14It is clear that
35:16Bilawal Bhutto and
35:18Murad Ali Shah,
35:20Reza Rabbani and
35:22Sherry Rehman
35:24had a different opinion.
35:26They opposed it.
35:28If you listen to their opinion,
35:30except for Reza Rabbani,
35:32Murad Ali Shah also said
35:34that PTI should
35:36start acting
35:38like a political party.
35:40Who was supposed to
35:42become the mayor
35:44of Karachi?
35:46Who was the majority
35:48in Karachi?
35:50Didn't the whole nation
35:52see how they became
35:54the mayor of Karachi?
35:56It is clear that
35:58PTI cannot be defeated
36:00politically.
36:02It is a matter of
36:04administration.
36:06It is said that PTI
36:08should act like a political party.
36:10As Murad Ali Shah said
36:12and other leaders said,
36:14it is clear that
36:16PTI cannot be defeated
36:18politically.
36:20It is a matter of
36:22administration.
36:24It is a matter of
36:26administration.
36:28It is a matter of
36:30administration.
36:32It is a matter of
36:34administration.
36:36It is a matter of
36:38administration.
36:40It is a matter of
36:42administration.
36:44It is a matter of
36:46administration.
36:48It is a matter of
36:50administration.
36:52It is a matter of
36:54administration.
36:56It is a matter of
36:58administration.
37:00It is a matter of
37:02administration.
37:04It is a matter of
37:06administration.
37:08It is a matter of
37:10administration.
37:12It is a matter of
37:14administration.
37:16It is a matter of
37:18administration.
37:20It is a matter of
37:22administration.
37:24It is a matter of
37:26administration.
37:28It is a matter of
37:30administration.
37:32It is a matter of
37:34administration.
37:36It is a matter of
37:38administration.
37:40It is a matter of
37:42administration.
37:44It is a matter of
37:46administration.
37:48It is a matter of
37:50administration.
37:52It is a matter of
37:54administration.
37:56It is a matter of
37:58administration.
38:00It is a matter of
38:02administration.
38:04It is a matter of
38:06administration.
38:08It is a matter of
38:10administration.
38:12It is a matter of
38:14administration.
38:16It is a matter of
38:18administration.
38:20It is a matter of
38:22administration.
38:24It is a matter of
38:26administration.
38:28It is a matter of
38:30administration.
38:32It is a matter of
38:34administration.
38:36It is a matter of
38:38administration.
38:40It is a matter of
38:42administration.
38:44It is a matter of
38:46administration.
38:48It is a matter of
38:50administration.
38:52It is a matter of
38:54administration.
38:56It is a matter of
38:58administration.
39:00It is a matter of
39:02administration.
39:32It is a matter of
39:34administration.
39:36It is a matter of
39:38administration.
39:40It is a matter of
39:42administration.
39:44It is a matter of
39:46administration.
39:48It is a matter of
39:50administration.
39:52It is a matter of
39:54administration.
39:56It is a matter of
39:58administration.
40:00It is a matter of
40:02administration.
40:04It is a matter of
40:06administration.
40:08It is a matter of
40:10administration.
40:12It is a matter of
40:14administration.
40:16It is a matter of
40:18administration.
40:20It is a matter of
40:22administration.
40:24It is a matter of
40:26administration.
40:28It is a matter of
40:30administration.
40:32It is a matter of
40:34administration.
40:36It is a matter of
40:38administration.
40:40It is a matter of
40:42administration.
40:44It is a matter of
40:46administration.
40:48It is a matter of
40:50administration.
40:52It is a matter of
40:54administration.
40:56It is a matter of
40:58administration.
41:00It is a matter of
41:02administration.
41:04It is a matter of
41:06administration.
41:08It is a matter of
41:10administration.
41:12It is a matter of
41:14administration.
41:16It is a matter of
41:18administration.
41:20It is a matter of
41:22administration.
41:24It is a matter of
41:26administration.
41:28It is a matter of
41:30administration.
41:32It is a matter of
41:34administration.
41:36It is a matter of
41:38administration.
41:40It is a matter of
41:42administration.
41:44It is a matter of
41:46administration.
41:48It is a matter of
41:50administration.
41:52It is a matter of
41:54administration.
41:56It is a matter of
41:58administration.
42:00It is a matter of
42:02administration.
42:04It is a matter of
42:06administration.
42:08It is a matter of
42:10administration.
42:12It is a matter of
42:14administration.
42:16It is a matter of
42:18administration.
42:20It is a matter of
42:22administration.
42:24It is a matter of
42:26administration.
42:28It is a matter of
42:30administration.
42:32It is a matter of
42:34administration.
42:36It is a matter of
42:38administration.
42:40It is a matter of
42:42administration.
42:44It is a matter of
42:46administration.
42:48It is a matter of
42:50administration.
42:52It is a matter of
42:54administration.
42:56It is a matter of
42:58administration.
43:00It is a matter of
43:02administration.
43:04It is a matter of
43:06administration.
43:08It is a matter of
43:10administration.
43:12It is a matter of
43:14administration.
43:16It is a matter of
43:18administration.
43:20It is a matter of
43:22administration.
43:24It is a matter of
43:26administration.
43:28It is a matter of
43:30administration.
43:32It is a matter of
43:34administration.
43:36It is a matter of
43:38administration.
43:40It is a matter of
43:42administration.
43:44It is a matter of
43:46administration.
43:48It is a matter of
43:50administration.
43:52It is a matter of
43:54administration.
43:56It is a matter of
43:58administration.
44:00It is a matter of
44:02administration.
44:04It is a matter of
44:06administration.
44:08It is a matter of
44:10administration.
44:12It is a matter of
44:14administration.
44:16It is a matter of
44:18administration.
44:20It is a matter of
44:22administration.
44:24It is a matter of
44:26administration.
44:28It is a matter of
44:30administration.
44:32It is a matter of
44:34administration.
44:36It is a matter of
44:38administration.
44:40It is a matter of
44:42administration.
44:44It is a matter of
44:46administration.
44:48It is a matter of
44:50administration.
44:52It is a matter of
44:54administration.
44:56It is a matter of
44:58administration.
45:00It is a matter of
45:02administration.
45:04It is a matter of
45:06administration.
45:08It is a matter of
45:10administration.
45:12It is a matter of
45:14administration.
45:16It is a matter of
45:18administration.
45:20It is a matter of
45:22administration.
45:24It is a matter of
45:26administration.
45:28It is a matter of
45:30administration.
45:32It is a matter of
45:34administration.
45:36It is a matter of
45:38administration.
45:40It is a matter of
45:42administration.
45:44It is a matter of
45:46administration.
45:48It is a matter of
45:50administration.
45:52It is a matter of
45:54administration.
45:56It is a matter of
45:58administration.
46:00It is a matter of
46:02administration.
46:04It is a matter of
46:06administration.
46:08It is a matter of
46:10administration.
46:12It is a matter of
46:14administration.
46:16It is a matter of
46:18administration.
46:20It is a matter of
46:22administration.
46:24It is a matter of
46:26administration.
46:28It is a matter of
46:30administration.
46:32It is a matter of
46:34administration.
46:36It is a matter of
46:38administration.
46:40It is a matter of
46:42administration.
46:44It is a matter of
46:46administration.
46:48It is a matter of
46:50administration.
46:52It is a matter of
46:54administration.
46:56It is a matter of
46:58administration.
47:00It is a matter of
47:02administration.
47:04It is a matter of
47:06administration.
47:08It is a matter of
47:10administration.
47:12It is a matter of
47:14administration.
47:16It is a matter of
47:18administration.
47:20It is a matter of
47:22administration.
47:24It is a matter of
47:26administration.
47:28It is a matter of
47:30administration.
47:32It is a matter of
47:34administration.
47:36It is a matter of
47:38administration.
47:40It is a matter of
47:42administration.
47:44It is a matter of
47:46administration.
47:48It is a matter of
47:50administration.
47:52It is a matter of
47:54administration.
47:56It is a matter of
47:58administration.
48:00It is a matter of
48:02administration.
48:04It is a matter of
48:06administration.
48:08It is a matter of
48:10administration.
48:12It is a matter of
48:14administration.
48:16It is a matter of
48:18administration.
48:20It is a matter of
48:22administration.
48:24It is a matter of
48:26administration.
48:28It is a matter of
48:30administration.
48:32It is a matter of
48:34administration.
48:36It is a matter of
48:38administration.
48:40It is a matter of
48:42administration.
48:44It is a matter of
48:46administration.
48:48It is a matter of
48:50administration.
48:52It is a matter of
48:54administration.
48:56It is a matter of
48:58administration.
49:00It is a matter of
49:02administration.
49:04It is a matter of
49:06administration.
49:08It is a matter of
49:10administration.
49:12It is a matter of
49:14administration.
49:16It is a matter of
49:18administration.
49:20It is a matter of
49:22administration.
49:24It is a matter of
49:26administration.
49:28It is a matter of
49:30administration.
49:32It is a matter of
49:34administration.
49:36It is a matter of
49:38administration.
49:40It is a matter of
49:42administration.
49:44It is a matter of
49:46administration.
49:48It is a matter of
49:50administration.
49:52It is a matter of
49:54administration.
49:56It is a matter of
49:58administration.
50:00It is a matter of
50:02administration.
50:04It is a matter of
50:06administration.
50:08It is a matter of
50:10administration.
50:12It is a matter of
50:14administration.
50:16It is a matter of
50:18administration.
50:20It is a matter of
50:22administration.
50:24It is a matter of
50:26administration.
50:28It is a matter of
50:30administration.
50:32It is a matter of
50:34administration.
50:36It is a matter of
50:38administration.
50:40It is a matter of
50:42administration.
50:44It is a matter of
50:46administration.
50:48It is a matter of
50:50administration.
50:52It is a matter of
50:54administration.
50:56It is a matter of
50:58administration.
51:00It is a matter of
51:02administration.
51:04It is a matter of
51:06administration.
51:08It is a matter of
51:10administration.
51:12It is a matter of
51:14administration.
51:16It is a matter of
51:18administration.
51:20It is a matter of
51:22administration.
51:24It is a matter of
51:26administration.
51:28It is a matter of
51:30administration.
51:32It is a matter of
51:34administration.
51:36It is a matter of
51:38administration.
51:40It is a matter of
51:42administration.
51:44It is a matter of
51:46administration.
51:48It is a matter of
51:50administration.
51:52It is a matter of
51:54administration.
51:56It is a matter of
51:58administration.
52:00It is a matter of
52:02administration.
52:04It is a matter of
52:06administration.
52:08It is a matter of
52:10administration.
52:12It is a matter of
52:14administration.
52:16It is a matter of
52:18administration.
52:20It is a matter of
52:22administration.
52:24It is a matter of
52:26administration.
52:28It is a matter of
52:30administration.
52:32It is a matter of
52:34administration.
52:36It is a matter of
52:38administration.
52:40It is a matter of
52:42administration.
52:44It is a matter of
52:46administration.
52:48It is a matter of
52:50administration.
52:52It is a matter of
52:54administration.
52:56It is a matter of
52:58administration.
53:00It is a matter of
53:02administration.
53:04It is a matter of
53:06administration.
53:08It is a matter of
53:10administration.
53:12It is a matter of
53:14administration.
53:16It is a matter of
53:18administration.
53:20It is a matter of
53:22administration.
53:24It is a matter of
53:26administration.
53:28It is a matter of
53:30administration.
53:32It is a matter of
53:34administration.
53:36It is a matter of
53:38administration.
53:40It is a matter of
53:42administration.
53:44It is a matter of
53:46administration.
53:48It is a matter of
53:50administration.
53:52It is a matter of
53:54administration.
53:56It is a matter of
53:58administration.