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Reserved Seats Case kay muamlay Par Hukumat Aur Adliya Amnay Samnay Hongi? Amir Ilyas Rana's Statement
Reserved Seats Case kay muamlay Par Hukumat Aur Adliya Amnay Samnay Hongi? Amir Ilyas Rana's Statement
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00:00But Mr. Raj, Aadhaar Khan was also here a while ago. He was also saying that I don't think the government will obey the orders of the Adiliyah on the issue of returning reserved seats.
00:13Then this is a crisis. If this doesn't happen, then there's no two ways about it.
00:18That two institutions will stand in front of each other properly.
00:22Look, Mukarnina, Adiliyah and then Executive. They will stand with Adiliyah.
00:30They will stand against it. How they will stand, you have to see the optics.
00:34How will the Election Commission go to this decision?
00:37They are having a meeting tomorrow. Will they send the High Court?
00:39You tell me that there were three days in the constitution, that also passed.
00:42A 15-day order has come. How can we believe this?
00:45When the constitution tells you very clearly that you have to be loyal in three days.
00:49They have also taken an oath.
00:51The Supreme Court has passed 187.
00:54I will tell you, Anika, look, there are about five judges who were sitting in the full court under the Practice and Procedure Act.
01:01And they had decided that 184.3 has to be passed under the Practice and Procedure Act.
01:08That is, the three-member committee will sit. When the matter comes from somewhere, we will see it.
01:13Now, if the judge has to write in a detailed decision that we have given complete justice to PTI instead of 187.
01:21Only one party has got complete justice.
01:23And in the Natural Law Act, at least you should have asked the people who have lost their seats.
01:31That we are taking your seats, they did not even notice.
01:33The party that has come to appeal did not get anything.
01:36So how can you go and make this decision yourself?
01:40And if you have enforced 184.3, then there is an appeal in it.
01:46You can appeal, there is a review in it, in the full court.
01:50184.3 cannot be appealed anymore.
01:52It cannot be done because the full court is sitting, 13 judges are sitting.
01:55Now, if you bring four ad hoc judges, they will not be able to sit 13.
01:59And they cannot be 14.
02:01These are big questions.
02:03There are a lot of ifs and buts in its implementation.
02:05It will not be done so easily.
02:07Right.
02:08So in other words, a situation will definitely develop where the matter will come to a standstill.
02:12But now, Mr. Rana, the issue of banning Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
02:17How much will it be able to move forward in your eyes?
02:20Will it be possible or not?
02:22Because there is a reality.
02:24They have a province.
02:25They are governing the province as a political party.
02:29They are the single largest party which is present in the National Assembly.
02:34Will it be right to ban such a party?
02:38Look, these are the things that are in everyone's eyes.
02:41There are all the stakeholders.
02:42There is PTI in it.
02:43There is Sunni Taat Concert Hall in it.
02:45There is Muslim League, People's Party, MQM, JUI.
02:49Justice and army.
02:50All of them are citizens of this country.
02:52They are in the form of judges.
02:54They are in the form of generals.
02:55They are in the form of jihadists.
02:56They are in the form of opposition.
02:57The situation is one that this is Pakistan and how to govern it.
03:00At the moment, it is not governable.
03:02Whatever has been done with politics and institutions,
03:07we are standing with our hands tied in front of the IMF.
03:11And they are making us do whatever they want.
03:13And the common man is not at peace here.
03:16What I said in the start is that the common man does not exist.
03:20In the eyes of which institution does he exist?
03:21Can it be said with 26 lakh cases that we are going to give justice to the common man?
03:26Because we have come from the bottom to the top.
03:29Has our army completely controlled terrorism?
03:33Or have we made it clear that we give all the money to the common man?
03:37All these institutions run on it.
03:39And there is nothing for the one who has given everything.
03:42And there is no debate.
03:43There is no debate in the parliament.
03:44There is no debate in the judiciary.
03:45There is no debate in any other institution.
03:47And in the media too.
03:48The same thing is happening that we put tempering every day,
03:51the new spice that comes, we debate it.
03:53If there is nothing,
03:56then it is that for the welfare of the common man,
04:02who and when, how will it work?
04:05Because at this time, the government will focus on which party to ban and which party not to ban.
04:18And where the seats should come to them and where the seats should come to someone else.
04:22But the common man is left behind.
04:24And this is a fact that this time the budget could not have been done anywhere other than the IMF.
04:28Because we have considered them to be our parents, unfortunately.
04:31But now, if we get out of this issue, then we will think about the common man.
04:36So tell me, when will the government get out of this issue, this ban issue?
04:39No, we cannot get out.
04:42The night we are getting the staff college agreement with the IMF,
04:47we are seeing that our judges have given complete justice to the people.
04:51Those who have got it, that is, the PTI, that Ali Zafar is saying,
04:54that we did not expect this much, they gave it.
04:58And what was Salman Akram Raja saying in the Supreme Court,
05:00that give it to the Sunni Taj Council.
05:02You can imagine how much complete justice our Supreme Court has given.
05:07Because of which this whole situation has been born in a new way,
05:10that how will we go ahead and how will we work.
05:12This is a place to think a lot and it is the work of all of them to think.
05:15You are going to give complete justice, you call everyone.
05:17When Atarmin Allah Sahib was saying that this was what happened with the Muslim League in 2018,
05:21then complete justice was that we should open it in 2018,
05:24we should do it in 2024 and the retired people who gave the work at that time,
05:30whether they were in the army or in the jail,
05:33or the people who are present today,
05:34call them and tell them the solution to this issue, how will we do it.
05:36We want to give complete justice.
05:38But this has become a one-way justice.
05:40In this, you have given justice for one party and for the other you have given a ban.
05:43Right, but Mr. Ranjha, the thing comes there and stops.
05:47Buck stops at Pakistan People's Party.
05:50If Pakistan People's Party moves its hand away from the government,
05:53then the government will collapse.
05:55Basically, it is Pakistan People's Party.
05:57So, in this situation, which direction will the People's Party go?
06:02In your opinion, is there a party that says that we are also supporters of democracy,
06:08we believe in democracy, will it go towards banning any party?
06:15You remember when the elections were fresh,
06:20one day in Sindh, the GDA, i.e. Pir Pagada Sahib, had a protest.
06:26Absolutely.
06:27Sindh was completely closed.
06:29What happened after that?
06:31People's Party and Muslim League None got together.
06:35On one hand, PTI had refused.
06:37On the other hand, they got together.
06:39Everyone knows where and how we are standing.
06:41It is not that the People's Party is alone.
06:43It is such a democratic party that it has all these systems.
06:45People's Party was also in the budget.
06:47Even then I was saying that they should say this.
06:49There are two ways.
06:50They should say to their President,
06:51Mr. President, you should say to Mr. Shahbaz Shahbaz that
06:53take the vote of trust in Keto.
06:54People's Party has decided.
06:55It would have ended.
06:56If they did not have to say that,
06:57then they would have said to PTI that we will vote against.
07:00You should stand with us in the budget.
07:02PTI, People's Party,
07:04in which this principle has been made for the people
07:06that we will not allow taxation for the sake of the people.
07:08Tell me.
07:10You are getting such a signal because of which this question arises
07:12that where will the People's Party be?
07:14People's Party will be there where it is present now.
07:16Right.
07:17But why is the People's Party getting a different aura from inside?
07:20At one place, Mr. Nayyar Bukhari's statement has come that
07:23we have not discussed anything in the party.
07:25There, Mr. Sherry Rehman,
07:27there, what is his name, Mr. Raza Rabbani
07:30and so many other leaders of the Pakistan People's Party have said
07:33that this is not going to be on.
07:35This is right, this is wrong.
07:37And Mr. Nayyar Bukhari is saying that he has his own opinion.
07:40This has not been discussed yet.
07:42So many senior leaders talk through a party line.
07:45Mr. Rana does not talk to himself.
07:48No, no, no.
07:49In all the big parties, people express their opinions with freedom of expression.
07:54And this is in all the parties.
07:55And then when the party says
07:57I have discussed this issue with the President of the country.
08:01After that, the press conference of the Minister of Information was held.
08:04The rest is time-taking.
08:05Mr. Rana, this is news.
08:07This is news or your speculation?
08:09My speculation is that without the approval of the President,
08:13this press conference was held in contact with him.
08:16This work could not have been done without his approval.
08:19Right.
08:20The rest is what happens, if and buts are put.
08:23Mr. Nayyar Bukhari, what is your take on this?
08:53Whenever there is something, press a little.
08:55Take that path.
08:56Let us get more funds.
08:57Let there be ease for our people.