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In the wake of an unruly Wattah-Wattah Festival in San Juan City, its mayor Francis Zamora vows changes for better crowd control, including limiting the annual basaan to an area around City Hall and improved law enforcement.

The 6’5” former La Salle player also talks about the surprising transfer of Ateneo star Mason Amos to his alma mater.

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00:00Good day, Podmates! Howie Severino here again,
00:03reminding you that a long attention span is what makes you smart.
00:07Our guest today is the mayor of San Juan City in Metro Manila,
00:11where the Watawata Festival recently took place.
00:14It's a well-known street event that has received a lot of complaints and controversy.
00:20Mayor Francis Zamora has asked for an amendment
00:23and he'll be implementing reforms so that it won't happen again.
00:27Good day, Mayor Francis Zamora!
00:30Yes, good day, Howie and Una.
00:32I want to thank you for inviting me to your podcast.
00:35I'm very excited to be part of this.
00:38I just want you to know that ever since I was young,
00:42I have looked up to you.
00:43So it's an honor to be your guest today.
00:47Well, thank you.
00:47The honor is ours.
00:49Thank you very much.
00:51So, San Juan is in the news because of the Watawata Festival recently.
00:57But before we go into what happened,
00:59because there are a lot of people in the country
01:01who may have just heard about the Watawata Festival.
01:05So, just a little background, Mayor.
01:09Okay.
01:10Howie, just to give everyone a background,
01:12San Juan Del Monte is the origin of our name.
01:17And this is because we were named after our patron, San Juan Bautista,
01:25which, just for everyone's information,
01:28on June 24, 2024, or two weeks ago,
01:32we were officially named after our patron, San Juan Bautista.
01:38Now, for those who are familiar with Biblical history,
01:44St. John the Baptist was the one who preached to Jesus Christ.
01:48And because of that preaching,
01:51the way we celebrate our festivities since then,
01:57literally, the past decades,
02:01is through reading.
02:02So, this is something that I grew up with.
02:05I was born in San Juan on December 5, 1977.
02:09And all my 46 years, I have lived here in San Juan.
02:12So, I was just a kid when the reading happened.
02:15That's when I started reading, and a lot of people started reading.
02:20So, that is the background.
02:28And in previous years, it has evolved into the Awatawata Festival.
02:34So,
02:49every June 24, you will see that
03:01we have reading, we have St. Tongtao Parade,
03:04and we have a street dancing competition.
03:08Now, during the COVID-19 pandemic,
03:11we were unable to hold the Awatawata Festival
03:15because of restrictions,
03:17because of limitations in terms of activities allowed.
03:21And we were only able to do this when I was the mayor from 2019 to 2024,
03:28just to backtrack.
03:29In 2019, I became mayor,
03:31but on June 24, 2019, I was not officially mayor yet
03:36because I started my term on June 30.
03:38So, my first festival was in 2020,
03:42but it was COVID-19.
03:44In 2021, it was also COVID-19.
03:46In 2022, it was still COVID-19,
03:48but because San Juan has a high vaccination rate,
03:52we decided to hold the Awatawata Festival,
03:55although not as big as previous years.
03:58In 2023, our vice mayor passed away,
04:01so we were not able to hold the Awatawata Festival.
04:04And during that time,
04:06we had El Nino,
04:08so we decided not to continue.
04:11This year, 2024, two weeks ago, it was continued.
04:14That's the context of Awatawata
04:16under our leadership as mayor.
04:20We only held it twice as mayor,
04:24but in previous years,
04:26the past mayors and administrations
04:30have been doing this.
04:31Okay, Mayor, like you said,
04:34you only held it in 2019,
04:36then there was a pandemic,
04:37it didn't continue,
04:38and then last year,
04:38because of El Nino,
04:39the town was in lockdown,
04:41so it didn't continue.
04:42This is really the first big Awatawata Festival
04:47under your term, right?
04:50That's correct.
04:51Many people have already seen the viral videos,
04:54and then we know that there were complaints,
04:56there were people who complained, etc.,
04:58and you've promised that it won't happen again,
05:00that there will be a reform.
05:01But if you were going to plan this again,
05:05what would you have done differently?
05:07Because it seems like the crowd became out of control.
05:11Okay, Hawi, for everyone to understand
05:14the context of this celebration,
05:17Hawi's nature is really prone to chaos.
05:21What do I mean?
05:23For many decades already,
05:25on June 24, here in San Juan,
05:28people are used to being wet.
05:31That means,
05:33it's like their minds are set on
05:36—for all of us here in San Juan—
05:39that on June 24, it's wet.
05:41So the people passing by,
05:44the motorists,
05:46they're used to it.
05:49And again,
05:50the nature of this celebration
05:52is prone to chaos
05:53because there are people who get wet
05:56but don't want to get wet.
05:57There are pedestrians,
06:01passers-by,
06:02motorists,
06:03both in cars and motorcycles,
06:07who get wet,
06:08who have their minds set on chaos.
06:10And that's the nature of our celebration.
06:14That's why,
06:15after analyzing what happened last June 24,
06:18I decided that,
06:21once and for all,
06:21we should change the way
06:23in which we celebrate our celebration.
06:26Because there are people
06:31who don't want to get wet,
06:32but because they work here,
06:34they study here,
06:35or they just pass by our streets,
06:37they get wet.
06:39And usually,
06:40that's where the chaos starts.
06:42For example,
06:43someone just passed by,
06:44got wet,
06:45or forced to get wet,
06:46got angry,
06:47got mad,
06:48and fought.
06:49So yeah,
06:50he's very prone.
06:51I mean, let's face the reality
06:52that the very nature
06:54of the Wata Wata Festival
06:56is so prone
06:57to all of these kinds of
06:59disruption and disturbance.
07:00That's why, once and for all,
07:01I decided
07:03to designate a wet zone.
07:07Our wet zone is here,
07:10at Pinaglabanan Road,
07:11in between Endomingo
07:12and Pigivara Streets.
07:14So basically,
07:15in front of our government center,
07:17in front of City Hall,
07:18in front of Pinaglabanan Shrine.
07:21This is the only stretch of road
07:23that can get wet
07:25starting next year
07:26when our festival arrives.
07:28In this way,
07:29if you really want to get wet,
07:33you will enter the wet zone.
07:36Meaning, if you want to celebrate with us
07:38by way of getting wet,
07:40those who have firetrucks,
07:42those who have water guns,
07:45you will enter the wet zone.
07:48We will close the stretch
07:50of Pinaglabanan Road
07:51from Endomingo to Pigivara,
07:54and we will make this
07:55our wet zone.
07:56All Wata Wata
07:57and wet related activities
07:59will happen here.
08:01Now, outside of this wet zone,
08:03it is totally prohibited to get wet.
08:06For those who don't want to get wet,
08:09who just want to walk
08:10on our streets,
08:12go to work,
08:13go to school,
08:14they will not be affected.
08:16And you know,
08:18it's very hard really
08:20to change
08:23what people have been used to.
08:25Sometimes we don't get wet,
08:28people get sad,
08:30people are really looking for it.
08:31So, for me,
08:34this chaos
08:36has become a blessing
08:39because it became a great opportunity
08:41to once and for all change
08:43the way, the system of our party.
08:46When I announced that
08:48there will be a wet zone,
08:49no one was complaining
08:50because they saw that
08:52yes, the mayor is right.
08:54Our parties in the past,
08:58previous years,
08:58previous decades,
08:59when this happened,
09:00everyone knows,
09:01everyone in San Juan knows.
09:02Everyone who ever passed San Juan
09:05on June 24,
09:06in the previous years,
09:07previous decades,
09:08they know that there will be chaos,
09:11there will be fights
09:12because if you just pass by San Juan,
09:14you will get wet.
09:16So, to avoid this from happening again,
09:20it is totally prohibited to get wet
09:23outside the wet zone.
09:25So, if you are passing
09:26through Aurora Boulevard
09:28or Ticas Avenue
09:31or Bloomingtree
09:33or any of the streets in San Juan,
09:36outside the wet zone,
09:37no one should get wet.
09:40And if there is,
09:42they will immediately issue a fine
09:45because it is prohibited.
09:46But we will also, of course, ensure
09:48that on June 24,
09:49in the next year,
09:51there will be a lot of police.
09:52I told my chief of police
09:54after this happened,
09:57next year, we will make sure
09:59that there will be a lot of police
10:01to ensure apprehension.
10:04Why is this difficult?
10:06Because it is not prohibited to get wet.
10:09So, how will the police catch
10:12that technically, it is not prohibited to get wet?
10:14If you look at our ordinance,
10:16what is prohibited here?
10:17It is prohibited to force
10:18opening of the vehicle.
10:20It is prohibited to
10:22park cars.
10:24Yes, that is prohibited.
10:25Through the ordinance, it is prohibited.
10:27That is why there are gray areas,
10:28HAWI,
10:29there are gray areas
10:30or what we call loopholes.
10:34The 2018 ordinance
10:36that we will also strengthen.
10:38For example,
10:39it is stated that it is prohibited
10:40to force opening of the vehicle
10:42to get wet.
10:43What if it is a motorcycle?
10:44There is no door, right?
10:47That is an example of a loophole,
10:49HAWI,
10:50that we are now addressing.
10:52Note also, HAWI,
10:53that is the 2018 ordinance.
10:54I am not yet the mayor of HAWI.
10:57I was the previous mayor
10:58when that was passed.
10:59That means,
11:00that happened before.
11:01That is why there is a gap
11:03because it happened before.
11:05That is the exact objective
11:06of the 2018 ordinance
11:09to penalize those who
11:12violate FIESTA
11:13or BASAAN guidelines.
11:15Also,
11:15let's face the reality that
11:17social media, of course,
11:19is different now,
11:20the videos that went viral.
11:22It circulates more,
11:24it is highlighted more.
11:27But again,
11:27that really happened before.
11:29Except that during those years,
11:33there were no TikToks.
11:36But again,
11:36I'm not giving any excuses.
11:38I have said already
11:41and I will say it again,
11:42that I take full responsibility
11:44for what happened.
11:45We are addressing the situation.
11:47We have filed cases already
11:48against those
11:51who have violated
11:52the revised penal code
11:53and even our ordinance.
11:55And most importantly,
11:57we already have a clear
11:59change that we will do
12:01in the next year
12:02and the years to come
12:04in our government.
12:06Okay, mayor,
12:06I just want to clarify
12:07for our audience,
12:08maybe they are wondering
12:09what really happened.
12:11As far as I know
12:12and perhaps what others know,
12:14there were no serious injuries.
12:17I mean,
12:17I think what I saw
12:19on all these videos
12:20is that there were people
12:21who were hit by a car
12:22and then there were people
12:23who were complaining about riders.
12:24So there were a few
12:25of those comments.
12:27Most of the complaints
12:28were from students
12:29whose laptops were wet,
12:31their theses,
12:33those who were about to go to work
12:35and their clothes were wet, etc.
12:37So it was a real,
12:39I would say,
12:39disturbance
12:41of ordinary people
12:42who are not part of the party.
12:45But you said that
12:46there will be zoning.
12:46I want to ask you,
12:47because you canceled last year,
12:49did you consider
12:51maybe just canceling
12:52the whole festival?
12:53Is it really worth the risk
12:54that in the future
12:56there might be
12:58a serious injury
12:59because there were
13:00such incidents this year?
13:02Okay, Howie,
13:05also for you
13:06and the viewers to understand,
13:08your constituents are looking for this
13:11because they are used to
13:14our city.
13:16So for many years,
13:17for many decades,
13:18this has been done.
13:20Like what you mentioned,
13:21where is the problem?
13:22It's the students who pass by,
13:23they get wet,
13:24their laptops get wet,
13:26their cell phones.
13:28That's because the wetlands
13:29are still citywide.
13:31Now, it will not be
13:32citywide anymore.
13:33So if there are students
13:35who pass by our city,
13:38they know that
13:38they should not pass
13:39through the wetland zone.
13:41Our wetland zone
13:42is a small piece of road.
13:46The road is mixed,
13:48especially between
13:49Endumingo and Pigavara.
13:51That's just a few hundred meters stretch.
13:54It's not that long.
13:56So it will not have
13:58a big effect
13:59on motorists
14:00because there are so many other roads
14:02that can pass through.
14:03It will not mean
14:06that there will be traffic
14:08or that the road will be disrupted
14:10by cars
14:12because there are so many other
14:13roads that can pass through.
14:15Now, next year,
14:16those who will go to school
14:18or go to work,
14:20if they pass through Aurora Boulevard,
14:24they should not worry
14:25because that is outside
14:27the wetland zone
14:28and there will be no wetlands there.
14:30Again, we will deploy
14:34police more than the usual.
14:36So again, that will also be
14:38part of our plan
14:43that the number of police
14:44will increase.
14:45We will also ask for an augmentation
14:47in the Eastern Police District, HAWI,
14:49to ensure that there will be
14:50a lot of police
14:52in the coming years
14:53because we don't want
14:55this kind of disturbance.
14:56Second, I will formally write
14:59Malacanang HAWI
15:00to declare a holiday
15:01on June 24
15:03next year.
15:05Only Malacanang and Congress
15:07have the power
15:08to declare a holiday.
15:09It's not a power
15:12vested in a mayor.
15:14If it's a holiday,
15:16that means there's no entry
15:18and no work.
15:19So again, on June 1,
15:20there will be less chances
15:22that there will be people
15:24who don't want to read
15:25but will read
15:26because it's a holiday.
15:27But again, that's not within my power
15:30as a mayor.
15:31So we will have to write
15:32Malacanang for this
15:33and we will, of course,
15:34cite our experience
15:38as one of the reasons
15:41why we will be requesting
15:43for a holiday.
15:44So these are the things
15:45that we will do.
15:47In fact, on the onset
15:51of all of these problems,
15:53all of these incidents,
15:56I sat down with
15:58our fellow city government officials
16:01and we analyzed
16:03what happened
16:04and most importantly,
16:06what should be done
16:07so that this won't happen again.
16:08Again, I sincerely apologize
16:10to everyone
16:13that was affected
16:14by our celebration.
16:16I take full responsibility
16:20and assure everyone
16:21that this will not happen again.
16:23Okay, Mayor,
16:23the command responsibility
16:25is honorable.
16:26But I want to refer to
16:27what you said earlier
16:28that this has really happened
16:30in the past.
16:31But one of your predecessors
16:33couldn't help
16:34but post on his Facebook
16:35because he's the former mayor
16:37JV Ejercito,
16:38who was your predecessor
16:39for nine years.
16:40He also sat in San Juan.
16:43Basically, what he said
16:45was that he had a hard time
16:47arranging the Wata Wata Festival.
16:50And he said that he prohibited
16:54the reading of passers-by
16:56and those who were going to work.
16:59And basically,
17:00his conclusion is to quote
17:02from his Facebook page,
17:03maybe there was a lack
17:04of preparation and remembrance.
17:08As you mentioned,
17:08it was your first big
17:10Wata Wata Festival.
17:11So, you know,
17:12it's understandable
17:13that maybe there was a lack
17:15of preparation.
17:16But what is your response to that?
17:18Because what you're saying
17:20is that there's a lack of rules.
17:23But what Senator,
17:25former Mayor Ejercito,
17:26is saying is that there are rules
17:27that were not followed.
17:28Okay, Howie.
17:29First of all,
17:30I don't expect Senator Ejercito
17:32to ever say anything good
17:34about Mayor Francis Acora
17:36or our Makabagong San Juan.
17:38That's expected.
17:40Ever since I became mayor,
17:42not once did he say
17:44anything good about us.
17:45And that's expected.
17:46Because, of course,
17:50after 50 years,
17:51Howie,
17:51their family left our city.
17:55When I came in in 2019,
17:58their family was wiped out
17:59in terms of the political
18:02landscape here in San Juan.
18:04So, that's where
18:06all their grudges are against me.
18:08I expected that,
18:09right?
18:09Because what they've been used to
18:11for 50 years
18:12is now over.
18:15So, I don't really expect him
18:17to say anything good about us.
18:20In fact, just to share with you,
18:22three times
18:23when it became the topic
18:24of a privileged speech
18:25in the Senate.
18:27So, obviously,
18:30all opportunities,
18:31all opportunities
18:32that I've had,
18:33he's taking advantage of me.
18:34And that's expected.
18:36But in all instances,
18:38I'm able to answer his questions.
18:40Now, when it comes to this,
18:42in 2018, the ordinance
18:44that was active,
18:46or the existing one,
18:47that was the time of his mother.
18:51So, the so-called
18:53prohibitions.
18:55Yes, correct.
18:56So, the so-called prohibitions.
18:58If you look at the ordinance,
19:00there's no such thing as prohibiting
19:02people from reading.
19:05So, those are the loopholes
19:07that we see
19:09in the 2018 ordinance.
19:11That is why,
19:12because of what happened,
19:14we will amend this.
19:16We will strengthen it.
19:18We will change it. In fact,
19:20all loopholes, all gray areas,
19:22we will fix it.
19:24Because the fact is,
19:26it lacks teeth.
19:28There are a lot of loopholes.
19:30Like I said,
19:32if you're on a motorcycle,
19:34it's prohibited to
19:36open the vehicle.
19:38If you're on a motorcycle,
19:40how do you walk?
19:42It's not specified.
19:44So, there are a lot of loopholes
19:46in the ordinance.
19:48So, we will strengthen it.
19:50And in general,
19:52reading is citywide.
19:54So, there are people
19:56who just walk,
19:58read, and read.
20:00It's prohibited to read.
20:02But now, because it's prohibited
20:04to read outside
20:06the reading zone,
20:08it is now going to be a clear violation.
20:10Before,
20:12there was no violation.
20:14Is there anything in the revised
20:16penal code that says
20:18it's prohibited to read?
20:20So again, if it enters
20:22any of the existing violations
20:24in the revised penal code,
20:26this will require a private complainant
20:28to file a complaint
20:30to the prosecutor's office.
20:32Which in two instances,
20:34in the last one,
20:36there were two private complainants
20:38who filed a complaint.
20:40One of them was our personal colleague
20:42who filed an unjust fixation
20:44and a slander.
20:46So,
20:48there are cases
20:50that were filed.
20:52Some of them were minors.
20:54Again, the law prohibits you
20:56from filing
20:58a case against minors.
21:00We analyzed
21:02the nature of WATAWATA
21:04and we all agreed that
21:06the very nature is very prone
21:08to these kinds of
21:10disruption and disturbance.
21:12So, the very origin of the
21:14chaos is what we will change.
21:16If we only have
21:18a reading zone, and I enter
21:20that reading zone, that means
21:22you want to read.
21:24You want to read.
21:26You want to celebrate with us.
21:28You wanted that, so you entered.
21:30We didn't force you to enter the reading zone.
21:32So, expect that inside the reading zone,
21:34that's where the reading will take place.
21:36There are firetrucks there.
21:38There are water guns there.
21:40No one should complain because
21:42you freely entered the reading zone.
21:44Now, outside the reading zone,
21:46that's not allowed.
21:48And our police,
21:50if they see that
21:52someone is reading, they will arrest them.
21:54Because that's a clear violation.
21:56You don't have an interpretation
21:58that you need to make an ordinance
22:00or a law because the ordinance
22:02that we will make is defined
22:04that it's not allowed to read outside the reading zone.
22:06Okay, Mayor. It's clear
22:08that you have a good plan
22:10for next year.
22:12But I want to zoom out a little bit
22:14to the big picture beyond the WATAWATA festival
22:16because you became
22:18a varsity basketball player
22:20in college.
22:22Anyway, you were in the news.
22:24I mean, it's just a small tidbit.
22:26Because the news
22:28in the UAAP
22:30that the star player
22:32who is a big man
22:34of the Ateneo Blue Eagles
22:36Mason Amos
22:38is expected to help
22:40in delivering
22:42the title again
22:44to Loyola Heights.
22:46The arch rival of Ateneo
22:48and then suddenly
22:50even the coach
22:52was surprised.
22:54When you read accounts,
22:56it's like Mason
22:58gave you credit.
23:00Of course, you are a former
23:02varsity LaSalle player.
23:04You're a champion in LaSalle.
23:06And Mason said,
23:08the mayor and I
23:10had a really good talk
23:12and it helped me decide
23:14where I want to be in the next couple of years.
23:16What's your side
23:18of this, Mayor?
23:20Did you actively try to
23:22pirate Mason?
23:24No, definitely not.
23:26Howie,
23:28this is the first
23:30time I've ever been asked
23:32officially. There are a lot of unofficial
23:34questions, but this
23:36I will consider as an official
23:38question and consider this as an
23:40official answer.
23:42I'll tell you, Howie,
23:44I met Mason Amos once
23:46and that was about
23:48maybe three or four
23:50weeks ago.
23:52I was in Greenhills.
23:54I was having dinner.
23:56He suddenly came.
23:58I met him for the first time.
24:00Of course, I knew him
24:02because he's a good player.
24:04I idolized him because he
24:06shoots very well.
24:08He's a big man like you. I think he's 6'7".
24:10He's 6'7", but
24:12he shoots from the three-point area very well.
24:14A modern big man.
24:16Correct. A modern big man.
24:18I honestly consider
24:20him as a very, very good basketball player.
24:22True enough, he's on the field
24:24with our Philippine
24:26team.
24:28I met him for the first time.
24:30I was happy when he said,
24:32Mayor, I just want you to know that
24:34my mom lives
24:36in San Juan. My mom's family
24:38lives in San Juan. My relatives live in San Juan.
24:40So,
24:42my initial feeling was,
24:44wow, I'm happy to know that.
24:46We talked
24:48and then I told him
24:50my personal experience
24:52that I became
24:54team captain of
24:56back-to-back championship teams
24:58in 1998 and 1999.
25:00That was when LaSalle
25:02won back-to-back championships
25:04in the UAB. I told him
25:06my experience as a team captain,
25:08as a player, and even
25:10now, even if you say I don't play anymore,
25:12I still watch the games.
25:14Whatever I can do to help
25:16my school,
25:18my presence
25:20there. Last
25:22year, the Annie Moring Ceremony,
25:24if you remember how we
25:26organized that along with Don
25:28Aliado, Rene Netoalo, Dominic
25:30Uy-Monacek, the core group of
25:32our championship team back then.
25:34I told
25:36Mason how
25:38LaSalle is
25:40in terms of taking care
25:42of their players. Now,
25:44if it became
25:46good feedback
25:48for him or it became a consideration
25:50for him, that's really up to him
25:52to assess. Again, I
25:54categorically am saying that I did not pirate
25:56Mason Eros.
25:58I'm not involved in any
26:00way in terms of
26:02recruiting players.
26:04I am a former player.
26:06I help the alumni core
26:08group in such a way
26:10that my perspective as a player
26:12is their perspective
26:14as a team manager
26:16or alumni.
26:18But my
26:20perspective as a former player,
26:22if there are things
26:24that I see that
26:26I should tell them
26:28because this is the player's perspective,
26:30I tell them.
26:32They are managers
26:34but none of them are really
26:36active UAP players.
26:38I guess that's where my value
26:40comes in in terms of helping
26:42out the LaSalle University
26:44alumni core group because
26:46they're getting it at a different perspective.
26:48If
26:50what we discussed and what I told
26:52Mason became the reason
26:54why he decided,
26:56that is his personal
26:58choice. We did not
27:00discuss
27:02anything
27:04that suits him
27:06that we would consider to be pirated.
27:08Of course, I have a lot of
27:10friends from Ateneo.
27:12In fact, my vice mayor is from Ateneo
27:14and I
27:16grew up with a lot of Atenean friends.
27:18Please, to my Atenean friends
27:20and to all the members of the
27:22Ateneo community, don't
27:24think that
27:26I was pirated.
27:28Not me, definitely.
27:30We met
27:32and I found out
27:34that his mother is from San Juan.
27:36As mayor of San Juan,
27:38I had
27:40a light feeling about it.
27:42Oh wow, I never knew that.
27:44I told him. He said,
27:46every time they have
27:48a game here in Fill Oil,
27:50which is in San Juan,
27:52his family would watch it
27:54and he would go to his
27:56house here
27:58in Barangay 11 in San Juan.
28:00When I found out about this,
28:02of course, I was happy.
28:04I cried because it's not all the time
28:06that you will hear
28:08this kind of
28:10connection between
28:12an Atenean superstar
28:14player and our city.
28:16Okay, so
28:18it's clear, right?
28:20Thank you for setting the record
28:22straight on that. We're going to
28:24let you go now, Mayor. We know how busy you are.
28:26We'll end with that personal and sports note.
28:28Maraming salamat,
28:30Mayor, for your time and we look forward to a
28:32safer Watawatah Festival
28:34in the future and
28:36hopefully, Ateneo victories
28:38over LaSalle kahit pumipat na si
28:40Mason Amos sa
28:42isa inyo. Maraming salamat
28:44sa inyong servisyo, Mayor Francis Zamora.
28:46Mabuhay po kayo.
28:48Maraming salamat, Howie.
28:50Animo LaSalle. One big fight, Ateneo.
28:52Hi, I'm Howie Severino.
28:54Check out the Howie Severino Podcast.
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