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00:00a year. I'd like to tell you a quick story. I got a letter today as I left
00:04Sarasota, Florida. I'm here with a group of 13 people from around the country who
00:08helped me prepare, and we had a great time. But two days ago, we ate lunch at a
00:12restaurant, and the guy who served us lunch got me a letter today.
00:17His name is Randy Ellis. He has a 15-year-old daughter named Kaylee who's
00:22in Sarasota High School. Her science class was supposed to be for 24 students.
00:28She is the 36th student in that classroom. Sent me a picture of hers in the
00:32classroom. They can't squeeze another desk in for her, so she has to stand
00:38during class. I want the federal government, consistent with local control
00:42and new accountability, to make improvement of our schools the number
00:46one priority so Kaylee will have a desk and can sit down in a classroom where
00:50she can learn.
00:51Alright. So, having heard the two of you, voters have just heard the two of you,
00:56what's the difference? What's the choice between the two of you on education?
00:59Well, the first is, the difference is, there is no new accountability measures in
01:04Vice President Gore's plan. He says he's for voluntary testing. You can't have
01:08voluntary testing. You must have mandatory testing. You must say that if
01:13you receive money, you must show us whether or not children are learning to
01:17read and write and add and subtract. That's the difference. You may claim
01:21you've got mandatory testing, but you don't, Mr. Vice President, and that is a
01:25huge difference. Testing is the cornerstone of reform. You know how I
01:28know? Because it's the cornerstone of reform in the state of Texas. Republicans
01:32and Democrats came together and asked the question, what can we do to make our
01:35public education the best in the country? And we've done a long way working
01:39together to do so. And the cornerstone is to have strong accountability in return
01:44for money and in return for flexibility. We're going to ask you to show us
01:48whether or not, and we ask to post the results on the internet, we encourage
01:53parents to take a look at the comparative results of schools. We've got
01:57a strong charter school movement that I signed the legislation to get started in
02:01the state of Texas. I believe if we find poor children trapped in schools that
02:05won't teach, we need to free the parents. I think we need to expand education
02:09savings accounts. It's something Vice Presidents, Vice
02:14Presidential running mates support. So there's big differences of opinion. He
02:17won't support freeing local districts from the strings of
02:20federal money. How do you see the differences? Well, first of all, I do have
02:24mandatory testing. I think the governor may not have heard what I said
02:28clearly. The voluntary national test is in addition to the mandatory testing
02:33that we require of states, all schools, all school districts, students themselves,
02:38and required teacher testing, which goes a step farther than Governor Bush has
02:43been willing to go. Here are a couple of differences, though, Jim. Governor
02:48Bush is in favor of vouchers, which take taxpayer money away from public schools
02:53and give them to private schools that are not accountable for how the money is
02:57used and don't have to take all applicants. Now, private schools play a
03:00great role in in our society. All of our children have gone to both public
03:04schools and private schools. But I don't think private schools should have a
03:09right to take taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when Kayleigh
03:14Ellis is standing in that classroom. Let me give you another example. I went to a
03:18school in Dade County, Florida, where the facilities are so overcrowded the
03:23children have to eat lunch in shifts, with the first shift for lunch starting
03:27at 930 in the morning. Look, this is a funding crisis all around the country.
03:33There are fewer parents of school-aged children as a percentage of
03:37the voting population, and there's the largest generation of students ever.
03:40We're in an information age when learning is more important than ever.
03:43Ninety percent of our kids go to public schools. We have to make it the number
03:47one priority, modernize our schools, reduce the class size, recruit new
03:52teachers, give every child a chance to learn with one-on-one time in a quality,
03:58high-quality, safe school. If it's a failing school, shut it down and reopen
04:03it under a new principle with a turnaround team of specialists, the way
04:07Governor Jim Hunt does in North Carolina.
04:09Here's another difference. The governor, if it's a failing school, would leave the
04:13children in that failing school for three years, and then give a little bit
04:18of money to the parents, a down payment on a down payment for private school
04:22tuition, and pretend that that would be enough for them to go out and go to a
04:26private school. It's an illusion.
04:27Wait a minute, wait a minute.
04:28Thirty seconds, Governor.
04:29Okay.
04:30First of all, most good governance is at the state level. See, here's the
04:35mentality. I'm going to make the state do this. I'm going to make the state do
04:38that. All I'm saying is if you spend money, show us results, and test
04:42every year, which you do not do, Mr. Vice President, you do not test every year.
04:47You can say you do into cameras, but you don't, unless you've changed your plan
04:51here on the stage.
04:52I didn't say that.
04:53Secondly, and you need to test every year, because that's where you
04:54determine whether or not children are progressing to excellence.
04:57Secondly, one of the things that we've got to be careful about in politics is
05:02throwing money at a system that has not yet been reformed. More money is needed,
05:06and I spend more money. But step one is to make sure we reform the system, to
05:11have the system in place that leaves no child behind, to stop this business
05:15about asking, gosh, how old are you? If you're 10, we're going to put you here.
05:18If you're 12, we'll put you here. And start asking the question, what do you
05:22know? And if you don't know what you're supposed to know, we'll make sure you do
05:25early before it is too late.
05:27New question. We've been talking about a lot of specific issues. It's often said
05:33that in the final analysis, about 90 percent of being the President of the
05:36United States is dealing with the unexpected, not with issues that came up
05:41in the campaign. Vice President Gore, can you point to a decision, an action you
05:47have taken, that illustrates your ability to handle the unexpected, the crisis
05:54under fire, etc.? When the action in Kosovo was dragging on and we were
06:02searching for a solution to the problem, our country had defeated the adversary
06:09on the battlefield without a single American life being lost in combat. But
06:15the dictator, Milosevic, was hanging on. I invited the former Prime Minister of
06:23Russia to my house and took a risk in asking him to get personally involved,
06:30along with the head of Finland, to go to Belgrade and to take a set of proposals
06:39from the United States that would constitute basically a surrender by
06:44Serbia. But it was a calculated risk that paid off. Now, I could probably give you
06:52some other examples of decisions over the last 24 years. I have been in public
06:59service for 24 years, Jim, and throughout all that time, the people I have fought
07:04for have been the middle-class families. And I have been willing to stand up to
07:10powerful interests like the big insurance companies, the drug companies,
07:14the HMOs, the oil companies. They have good people and they play a constructive
07:20role sometimes, but sometimes they get too much power. I cast my lot with the
07:26people, even when it means that you have to stand up to some powerful interests
07:31who are trying to turn the policies and the laws to their advantage.
07:38You can see it in this campaign. The big drug companies support Governor Bush's
07:43prescription drug proposal. They oppose mine because they don't want to get
07:48Medicare involved because they're afraid that Medicare will negotiate lower
07:52prices for seniors who currently pay the highest prices of all.
07:56Governor Bush?
07:57Well, I've been standing up to big Hollywood, big trial lawyers. What was the question?
08:04It was about emergencies, wasn't it?
08:05Well, it was about – well, yeah, okay.
08:12You know, as governor, one of the things you have to deal with is catastrophe. I can remember
08:17the fires that swept Parker County, Texas. I remember the floods that swept our state.
08:22I remember going down to Del Rio, Texas. I've got to pay the administration a compliment.
08:27James Lee Witt of FEMA has done a really good job of working with governors during times
08:32of crisis. But that's the time when you're tested not only – it's the time you test
08:39your mettle. It's the time to test your heart when you see people whose lives have
08:42been turned upside down. It broke my heart to go to the flood scene in Del Rio where
08:48a fellow and his family just got completely uprooted. The only thing I knew to do was
08:53to get aid as quickly as possible, which we did with state and federal help, and to put
08:58my arms around the man and his family and cry with them. But that's what governors
09:03do. Governors are oftentimes found on the front line of catastrophic situations.
09:09New question. There can be all kinds of crises, governor. Question for you. There could be
09:16a crisis, for instance, in the financial area. The stock market could take a tumble.
09:22There could be a failure of a major financial institution. What is your general attitude
09:27toward government intervention in such events?
09:31Well, it depends, obviously. But what I would do, first and foremost, is I would get in
09:38touch with the Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, to find out all the facts and all
09:44the circumstances. I would have my Secretary of Treasury be in touch with the financial
09:50centers, not only here but at home. I would make sure that key members of Congress were
09:55called in to discuss the gravity of the situation. And I would come up with a game plan to deal
10:02with it. That's what governors end up doing. We end up being problem solvers. We come up
10:06with practical, common-sense solutions for problems that we're confronted with. And
10:12in this case, in case of a financial crisis, I would gather all the facts before I made
10:17the decision as to what the government ought or ought not to do.
10:20Vice President Gore?
10:21Yeah, first I want to compliment the governor on his response to those fires and floods
10:26in Texas. I accompanied James Lee Witt down to Texas when those fires broke out. And FEMA
10:33has been a major flagship project of our reinventing government efforts. And I agree, it works
10:38extremely well now.
10:40On the international financial crises that come up, my friend Bob Rubin, former Secretary
10:45of Treasury, is here. He's a very close advisor to me and a great friend in all respects.
10:51I have had a chance to work with him and Alan Greenspan and others on the crisis following
10:57the collapse of the Mexican peso, when the Asian financial crisis raised the risk of
11:02worldwide recession that could affect our economy. And now, of course, the Euro's value
11:10has been dropping but seems to be under control. But it started for me in the last eight years
11:18when I had the honor of casting the tie-breaking vote to end the old economic plan here at
11:24home and put into place a new economic plan that has helped us to make some progress.
11:3022 million new jobs and the greatest prosperity ever. But it's not good enough and my attitude
11:37is you ain't seen nothing yet. We need to do more and better.
11:41So Governor, would you agree there is no basic difference here on intervening, the federal
11:47government intervening in what might be seen by others to be a private financial crisis
11:52if it's that serious?
11:53No, there's no difference on that. There is a difference though as to what the economy
11:56has meant. I think the economy has meant more for the Gore and Clinton folks than the Gore
12:01and Clinton folks have meant for the economy. I think most of the economic growth that has
12:05taken place is a result of ingenuity and hard work and entrepreneurship. And that's
12:09the role of government is to encourage that. But in terms of the response to the question,
12:14no.
12:15Okay.
12:16Can I comment on that?
12:17You may.
12:18See, you know, I think that the American people deserve credit for the great economy that
12:22we have. And it's their ingenuity. I agree with that. But you know, they were working
12:26pretty hard eight years ago. And they had ingenuity eight years ago. The difference
12:32is we've got a new policy. And instead of concentrating on tax cuts mostly for the wealthy,
12:42we want, I want tax cuts for the middle class families. And I want to continue the prosperity
12:48and make sure that it enriches not just the few, but all of our families. Look, we have
12:54gone from the biggest deficits to the biggest surpluses. We've gone from a triple dip recession
13:00during the previous 12 years to a tripling of the stock market. Instead of high unemployment,
13:06we've got the lowest African American and lowest Latino unemployment rates ever in history
13:12and 22 million new jobs. But it's not good enough. Too many people have been left behind.
13:17We have got to do much more. And the key is job training, education, investments in health
13:23care and education, the environment, retirement security. And incidentally, we have got to
13:28preserve Social Security. And I am totally opposed to diverting one out of every six
13:34dollars away from the Social Security Trust Fund, as the governor has proposed, into the
13:38stock market. I want new incentives for savings and investment for the young couples who are
13:44working hard so they can save and invest on their own on top of Social Security, not at
13:50the expense of Social Security, as the governor proposes.
13:53Two points. One, a lot of folks are still waiting for that 1992 middle-class tax cut.
14:03I remember the vice president saying, just give us a chance to get up there, we're going
14:07to make sure you get tax cuts. It didn't happen. And now he's having to say it again. They've
14:13had their chance to deliver a tax cut to you. Secondly, the surest way to bust this economy
14:20is to increase the role and the size of the federal government. The Senate Budget Committee
14:25did a study of the vice president's expenditures. They've projected it could conceivably bust
14:30the budget by 900 billion dollars. That means he's either going to have to raise your taxes
14:35by 900 billion or go into the Social Security surplus for 900 billion. This is a plan that
14:41is going to increase the bureaucracy by 20,000 people. His targeted tax cut is so detailed,
14:48so much fine print, that it's going to require numerous IRS agents. Now we need somebody
14:52to simplify the code, to be fair, to continue prosperity by sharing some of the surplus
14:58with the people who pay the bills, particularly those at the bottom end of the economic ladder.
15:04If I can respond, Jim. What he's quoting is not the Senate Budget Committee. It is a partisan
15:11press release by the Republicans on the Senate Budget Committee. It's not worth the government,
15:17the taxpayer-paid paper that it's printed on. Now as for 20,000 new bureaucrats, as
15:24you call them, you know the size of the federal government will go down in a Gore administration.
15:30In the Reinventing Government Program, you just look at the numbers, it is 300,000 people
15:35smaller today than it was 8 years ago. Now the fact is, you're going to have a hard time
15:42convincing folks that we were a whole lot better off 8 years ago than we are today.
15:47But that's not the question. The question is, will we be better off 4 years from now
15:52than we are today? And as for the surest way to threaten our prosperity, having a 1.9 trillion
16:01dollar tax cut, almost half of which goes to the wealthy, and a 1 trillion dollar Social
16:07Security privatization proposal is the surest way to put our budget into deficit, raise
16:13interest rates, and put our prosperity at risk.
16:16I can't let the man continue with fuzzy math. It's 1.3 trillion, Mr. Vice President. It's
16:21going to go to everybody who pays taxes. I'm not going to be one of these kinds of presidents
16:25that said, you get tax relief and you don't. I'm not going to be a pick and chooser. What
16:29is fair is everybody who pays taxes ought to get relief.
16:32I thought we cleared this up a while ago.
16:36New question on Social Security. Both of you have Social Security reform plans, and we
16:41could spend the rest of the evening and two or three other evenings talking about them
16:44in detail. We're not going to do that.
16:46But, many experts, including Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan, Vice President Gore, say
16:57that it will be impossible for either of you, essentially, to keep the system viable on
17:04its own during the coming baby boomer retirement onslaught without either reducing benefits
17:13or increasing taxes. Do you disagree?
17:15I do disagree, because if we can keep our prosperity going, if we can continue balancing
17:21the budget and paying down the debt, then the strong economy keeps generating surpluses.
17:27And here's what I would do. Here's my plan. I will keep Social Security in a lockbox,
17:33and that pays down the national debt and the interest savings I would put right back into
17:39Social Security. That extends the life of Social Security for 55 years.
17:45Now, I think that it's very important to understand that cutting benefits under Social Security
17:52means that people like Winifred Skinner from Des Moines, Iowa, who's here, would really
17:58have a much harder time, because there are millions of seniors who are living almost
18:03hand-to-mouth. And you talk about cutting benefits, I don't go along with it. I am opposed
18:09to it. I'm also opposed to a plan that diverts one out of every six dollars away from the
18:16Social Security trust fund. You know, Social Security is a trust fund that pays the checks
18:21this year with the money that's paid into Social Security this year. The governor wants
18:27to divert one out of every six dollars off into the stock market, which means that he
18:32would drain a trillion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund in this generation
18:40over the next ten years, and Social Security under that approach would go bankrupt within
18:45this generation. His leading advisor on this plan actually said that would be okay, because
18:51then the Social Security trust fund could start borrowing. It would borrow up to a three
18:56trillion dollars. Now, Social Security has never done that, and I don't think it should
19:01do that. I think it should stay in a lockbox, and I'll tell you this, I will veto anything
19:07that takes money out of Social Security for privatization or anything else other than
19:13Social Security.
19:14Governor?
19:15Well, I thought it was interesting that on the two minutes he spent about a million and
19:19a half on my plan, which means he doesn't want you to know that what he's doing is loading
19:23up IOUs for future generations. He puts no real assets in the Social Security system.
19:28The revenues exceed the expenses in Social Security to the year 2015, which means all
19:33retirees are going to get the promises made. So for those of you who he wants to scare
19:38into the voting booth to vote for him, hear me loud and clear. A promise made will be
19:42a promise kept. And you bet we want to allow younger workers to take some of their own
19:46money. See, that's the difference of opinion. The vice president thinks it's the government's
19:50money. The payroll taxes are your money. You ought to put it in prudent, safe investments
19:54so that one trillion over the next ten years grows to be three trillion. The money stays
19:59within the Social Security system. It's a part of the Social Security system. He keeps
20:04claiming it's going to be out of Social Security. It's your money. It's a part of your retirement
20:08benefits. It's a fundamental difference between what we believe. I want you to have your own
20:12asset that you can call your own. I want you to have an asset that you can pass on from
20:17one generation to the next. I want to get a better rate of return for your own money
20:22than the paltry two percent that the current Social Security trust gets today. So Mr. Greenspan
20:27missed the I thought missed an opportunity to say there's a third way and that is to
20:31get a better rate of return on the Social Security monies coming into the trust. There's
20:35two point three trillion dollars of surplus that we can use to make sure younger workers
20:41have a Social Security plan in the future. If we're smart, if we trust workers, and if
20:46we understand the power of the compounding rate of interest. Here's the difference. I
20:52give a new incentive for younger workers to save their own money and invest their own
20:59money but not at the expense of Social Security. On top of Social Security. My plan is Social
21:06Security plus. The governor's plan is Social Security minus. Your future benefits would
21:12be cut by the amount that's diverted into the stock market. And if you make bad investments,
21:19that's too bad. But even before then, the problem hits because the money contributed
21:24to Social Security this year is an entitlement. That's how it works. And the money is used
21:30to pay the benefits for seniors this year. If you cut the amount going in, one out of
21:35every six dollars, then you have to cut the value of each check by one out of every six
21:42dollars unless you come up with the money from somewhere else. I would like to know
21:46from the governor, I know we're not supposed to ask each other questions, but I'd be interested
21:50in knowing, does that trillion dollars come from the trust fund? Or does it come from
21:56the rest of the budget?
21:57No. There's enough money to pay seniors today in the current affairs of Social Security.
22:03The trillion comes from the surplus. Surplus is more money than needed. Let me tell you
22:09what your plan is. It's not Social Security plus. It's Social Security plus huge debt
22:13is what it is. You leave future generations with tremendous IOUs. It's time to have a
22:17leader that doesn't put off tomorrow what we should do today. It's time to have somebody
22:23to step up and say, look, let's let younger workers take some of their own money and under
22:28certain guidelines invest it in the private markets. The safest of federal investments
22:34yields four percent. That's twice the amount of rate of return than the current Social
22:39Security trust. There's a fundamental difference of opinion here, folks. Younger worker after
22:43younger worker. Here's my call that says I trust you. And you know what? The issue is
22:48changing because seniors now understand that the promise made will be a promise kept. But
22:54younger workers now understand we better have a government that trusts them. And that's
22:59exactly what I'm gonna do.
23:01Can I respond to that, Jim? This is a big issue. This is a big issue. Could we do another
23:06round on it?
23:07We're almost out of time.
23:08Well, just briefly, when FDR established Social Security, they didn't call them IOUs. They
23:15call it the full faith and credit of the United States. If you don't have trust in that, I
23:20do. And if you take it out of the surplus in the trust fund, that means the trust fund
23:26goes bankrupt in this generation within 20 years.
23:30Go ahead.
23:31This is a, this is a government that thinks a 2% rate of return on your money is satisfactory.
23:37It's not. This is a government that says younger workers can't possibly have their own asset.
23:43We need to think differently about the issue. We need to make sure our seniors get the promise
23:47made. But I'm gonna tell you, if we don't trust younger workers to manage some of their
23:51own money with the Social Security surplus, to grow from 1 trillion to 3 trillion, it's
23:56gonna be impossible to bridge the gap without what Mr. Gore's plan will do, causing huge
24:01payroll taxes or major benefit reductions.
24:03New question.
24:04Yes, sir.
24:05Governor Bush, are there issues of character that distinguish you from Vice President Gore?
24:11Well, man loves his wife, and I appreciate that a lot, and I love mine. And the man loves
24:17his family a lot, and I appreciate that, because I love my family. I think the thing that discouraged
24:23me about the Vice President was uttering those famous words, no controlling legal authority.
24:29I felt like that there needed to be a better sense of responsibility of what was going
24:34on in the White House. I believe that, I believe they've moved that sign, the buck stops here
24:43from the Oval Office desk to the buck stops here on the Lincoln Bedroom, and that's not
24:46good for the country. It's not right. We need to have a new look about how we conduct
24:53ourselves in office. There's a huge trust. I see it all the time when people come up
24:58to me and say, I don't want you to let me down again. And we can do better than the
25:05past administration has done. It's time for a fresh start. It's time for a new look.
25:11It's time for a fresh start after a season of cynicism. And so, I don't know the man
25:16well, but I've been disappointed about how he and his administration has conducted the
25:22fundraising affairs. You know, going to a Buddhist temple and then claiming it wasn't
25:27a fundraiser is just not my view of responsibility.
25:29Vice President Gore?
25:32Well I think we ought to attack our country's problems, not attack each other. I want to
25:37spend my time making this country even better than it is, not trying to make you out to
25:42be a bad person. You may want to focus on scandals. I want to focus on results. As I
25:48said a couple of months ago, I stand here as my own man, and I want you to see me for
25:54who I really am.
25:58Tipper and I have been married for 30 years. We became grandparents a year and a half ago.
26:03We've got four children. I have devoted 24 years of my life to public service, and I've
26:09said this before and I'll say it again. If you entrust me with the presidency, I may
26:14not be the most exciting politician, but I will work hard for you every day. I will fight
26:20for middle class families and working men and women, and I will never let you down.
26:26So Governor, what are you saying when you mention the fundraising scandals or the fundraising
26:33charges that involved Vice President Gore? What are you saying that the voters should
26:37take from that that's relevant to this election?
26:39I just think they ought to factor it in when they make their decision in the voting booth.
26:42Who can do a better job? Pardon me?
26:45In what way?
26:46Well, I just, you know, I think that people need to be held responsible for the actions
26:50they take in life. I think that...
26:53Go ahead, excuse me.
26:54Well, I think that's part of the need for a cultural change. We need to say that each
26:58of us need to be responsible for what we do, and people in the highest office of the
27:01land must be responsible for decisions they make in life. And that's the way I've conducted
27:08myself as Governor of Texas, and that's the way I'll conduct myself as President of the
27:11United States, should I be fortunate enough to earn your vote.
27:14Are you saying all of this is irrelevant, Vice President Gore, to this election?
27:17No, I think the American people should take into account who we are as individuals, what
27:22our experience is, what our positions on the issues are, what our proposals are. I am asking
27:27you again to see me for who I really am. I'm offering you my own vision, my own experience,
27:34my own proposals. And incidentally, one of them is this. This current campaign financing
27:40system has not reflected credit on anybody in either party. And that's one of the reasons
27:46I've said before, and I'll pledge here tonight. If I'm President, the very first bill that
27:51Joe Lieberman and I will send to the United States Congress is the McCain-Feingold campaign
27:56finance reform bill. And the reason it's that important is that all of the other issues,
28:02whether prescription drugs for all seniors that are opposed by the drug companies, or
28:06the Patients' Bill of Rights to take the decisions away from the HMOs and give them to the doctors
28:11and nurses opposed by the HMOs and insurance companies, all of these other proposals are
28:16going to be a lot easier to get passed for the American people if we limit the influence
28:21of special interest money and give democracy back to the American people. And I wish Governor
28:26Bush would join me this evening in endorsing the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform
28:34bill.
28:35Governor Bush?
28:36You know, this man has no credibility on the issue. As a matter of fact, I read in the
28:39New York Times where he said he co-sponsored the McCain-Feingold campaign fundraising bill.
28:45But he wasn't in the Senate with Senator Feingold. And so, look, what you need to know about
28:50me is I'm going to uphold the law, I'm going to have an attorney general that enforces
28:54the law, that it's the time for campaign funding reform is after the election. This man has
29:01outspent me, the special interests are outspending me, and I am not going to lay down my arms
29:08in the middle of a campaign for somebody who has got no credibility on the issue.
29:13Senator McCain said in – excuse me one sec, Vice President Gore – Senator McCain said
29:18in August, it doesn't matter which one of you is President of the United States in
29:22January, there's going to be blood on the floor of the United States Senate, and he's
29:25going to tie up the United States Senate until campaign finance reform is passed that includes
29:30a ban on soft money. First of all, would you support that effort by him, or would you sign
29:36a bill that is finally passed that included soft money?
29:39I would support an effort to ban corporate soft money and labor union soft money so long
29:44as there was dues checkoff. I've campaigned on this ever since the primaries. I believe
29:48there needs to be instant disclosure on the internet as to who's given to whom. I think
29:53we need to fully enforce the law. I mean, I think we need to have an attorney general
29:56that says if laws are broken, we'll enforce the law. Be strict about it. Be firm about
30:01it.
30:02Look, Governor Bush, you have attacked my character and credibility, and I am not going
30:11to respond in kind. I think we ought to focus on the problems and not attack each other.
30:18And one of the serious problems, hear me well, is that our system of government is being
30:24undermined by too much influence coming from special interest money. We have to get a handle
30:32on it. And like John McCain, I have learned from experience, and it's not a new position
30:38for me, 24 years ago, I supported full public financing of all federal elections. And anybody
30:47who thinks I'm just saying it'll be the first bill I send to the Congress, I want you to
30:52know I care passionately about this, and I will fight until it becomes law.
30:58I want people to hear what he just said. He is for full public financing of congressional
31:02elections. I'm absolutely adamantly opposed to that. I don't want the government financing
31:07congressional elections.
31:08I know.
31:09Sorry.
31:10I would just say on that wonderful note of disagreement, we have to stop here. And we
31:15want to go now to your closing statements. Governor Bush is first. You have two minutes.
31:19Thank you, Jim. Thank the University of Massachusetts. Mr. Vice President, thank you. It's been a
31:23good, lively exchange. Obviously, we have huge differences of opinion. Mine is that
31:27I want to empower people in their own lives. I also want to go to Washington to get some
31:32positive things done. It's going to require a new spirit, a spirit of cooperation. It's
31:37going to require the ability of a Republican president to reach out across the partisan
31:42divide and to say to Democrats, let's come together to do what's right for America. It's
31:47been my record as governor of Texas. It'll be how I conduct myself if I'm fortunate enough
31:51to earn your vote as president of the United States.
31:54I want to finally get something done on Medicare. I want to make sure prescription drugs are
31:58available for all seniors. And I want seniors to have additional choices when it comes to
32:03choosing their health care plans. I want to finally get something done on Social Security.
32:08I want to make sure that seniors have the promise made will be a promise kept. But I
32:12want younger workers to be able to manage some of their own money, some of their own
32:15payroll taxes in the private sector under certain guidelines to get a better rate of
32:19return on your own money.
32:21I want to rebuild our military to keep the peace. I want to have a strong hand when it
32:25comes to when it comes to the United States and world affairs. I don't want to try to
32:30put our troops in all places at all times. I don't want to be the world's policeman.
32:34I want to be the world's peacemaker by having a military of high morale and a military that's
32:39well-equipped. I want to have anti-ballistic missile systems to protect ourselves and our
32:43allies from a rogue nation that may try to hold us hostage or blackmail a friend.
32:49I also want to make sure our education system fulfills its hope and promise. I've had a
32:53strong record of working with Democrats and Republicans in Texas to make sure no child
32:57is left behind. I understand the limited role of the federal government, but it can be a
33:02constructive role when it comes to reform by insisting that there be strong accountability
33:07systems.
33:08Now, my intentions are to earn your vote and earn your confidence. I'm asking for your
33:12vote. I want you to be on my team. And for those of you working, thanks. Thanks from
33:18the bottom of my heart. And for those of you making up your mind, I'd be honored to have
33:22your support.
33:23Vice President Gore, two minutes.
33:24I want to thank everybody who watched and listened tonight because this is indeed a
33:30crucial time in American history. We're at a fork in the road. We have this incredible
33:36prosperity, but a lot of people have been left behind. And we have a very important
33:41decision to make. Will we use the prosperity to enrich all of our families and not just
33:47the few?
33:48One important way of looking at this is to ask, who are you going to fight for? Throughout
33:54my career in public service, I have fought for the working men and women of this country,
33:59middle-class families. Why? Because you are the ones who have the hardest time paying
34:04taxes, the hardest time making ends meet. You are the ones who are making car payments
34:10and mortgage payments and doing right by your kids. And a lot of times, there are powerful
34:15forces arrayed against you. And make no mistake about it, they do have undue influence in
34:20Washington, D.C., and it makes a difference if you have a president who will fight for
34:25you.
34:26I know one thing about the position of president. It's the only position in our Constitution
34:31that's filled by an individual who is given the responsibility to fight not just for one
34:37state or one district or the well-connected or wealthy, but to fight for all of the people,
34:44including especially those who most need somebody who will stand up and take on whatever powerful
34:49forces might stand in the way.
34:52There's a woman named Winifred Skinner here tonight from Iowa. I mentioned her earlier.
34:57She's 79 years old. She has Social Security. I'm not going to cut her benefits or support
35:02any proposal that would. She gets a small pension, but in order to pay for her prescription
35:07drug benefits, she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans.
35:13She came all the way from Iowa in a Winnebago with her poodle in order to attend here tonight.
35:20And I want to tell her, I am going to fight for a prescription drug benefit for all seniors,
35:27and I'm going to fight for the people of this country for a prosperity that benefits all.
35:32And we will continue this dialogue next week on October the 11th at Wake Forest University
35:37in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. The format then will be more informal, more conversational
35:42with the two candidates seated at a table with me.
35:45The third will be October 17th at Washington University in St. Louis, and that will follow
35:50a town hall type format. Also ahead, the day after tomorrow on October 5th, there's the
35:5590-minute debate between the Democratic candidate for vice president, Senator Joe Lieberman,
36:00and the Republican candidate, former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney. It will be held at
36:04Center College in Danville, Kentucky. The moderator will be Bernard Shaw of CNN.
36:10Thank you, Governor Bush, Vice President Gore. See you next week. And for now, from
36:15Boston, I'm Jim Lehrer. Thank you, and good night.
36:20And there you have it, the first joint appearance to discuss issues between the two major candidates
36:24for president of the United States. Governor Bush's father was criticized for looking at
36:29his watch in the presidential debate in 1992. There have been many across the country tonight
36:34doing somewhat the same thing as through an hour and a half. They were certainly long
36:38stretches. One would hesitate to say the whole hour and a half, which were pedantic,
36:43dull, unimaginative, lackluster, humdrum. You pick the word. And there will be those
36:48who think this was sort of a form of narcolepsy-inducing. However, it was, in some cases, serious discussion
36:58of differences of policy. Among those watching and listening to the Gore-Bush performance
37:02tonight, Bob Schieffer, our CBS News chief Washington correspondent and anchor of Face
37:06the Nation, and CBS News special correspondent and political analyst Gloria Borger. Bob?
37:11Well, I agree with you, Dan, that this did not get off to a very exciting start. But
37:16I do believe something significant happened here tonight, because clearly the burden was
37:20on George Bush. Al Gore has been around a long time in the national spotlight. He's
37:26expected to have a grasp of the issues. But if you look at any poll, any of the backgrounding
37:31we've done, people were wanting to know, does George Bush have a grasp of the issues?
37:37Is he up on stuff? Is he up to this job? Well, I think clearly tonight, if anyone gained
37:43from this debate, it was George Bush, because he showed that people will argue back and
37:47forth of the positions they took, but clearly he seemed to have as much of a grasp of the
37:52issues as Al Gore did tonight. So in that sense, I think Bush gained a lot. But I would
37:57also say, I think Al Gore came on strong at the end, and I think George Bush's weakest
38:02moment, when he turned on Bush's character, it just gave Al Gore a chance to say, look,
38:08I'm going to attack the problems in this country. I'm not going to attack character. So I think
38:12Bush gained the most, but I think Al Gore scored some points, too.
38:17Let's cut to the quick. You call it a draw, victory for Bush?
38:20I think the one who gained the most tonight was George Bush, because I think he really
38:24had the most to lose.
38:25Gloria Borger?
38:27I think what we heard tonight was a replay, Dan, of a lot of the themes we heard at the
38:30conventions. We heard George Bush saying that Al Gore and Bill Clinton had wasted the last
38:36seven years. We heard a lot about squandering the last seven years at the convention. We
38:41heard him talk about himself as an outsider, somebody who could build bipartisanship. And
38:46Gore also followed up a lot on his convention themes. He talked about fighting for the middle
38:52class. And here was a man who was talking about details. He wanted to explain his programs
38:58to the American people. It worked for him at the convention. And at the end, as Bob
39:02said, when he was given an opportunity to fight back, a lot of people know that Gore
39:07can attack when he wants to. He held back. He held himself back, and he said, I don't
39:12think we should attack each other. I think we should attack the problems of this country.
39:16And that really worked for him.
39:17Bottom line, you agree with Bob that it advantaged Bush in this?
39:20I think Bush did gain. I'm not sure anybody actually won this debate, Dan. I do think
39:25that Bush managed to help himself, and Gore did too, to a certain extent, by not going
39:29on the attack.
39:30Bob Schieffer, Gloria Borger, thanks. In a moment, we'll be back for seconds. The vice-presidential
39:35nominees have said they'll be joining us here, so stay here with us.
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44:37CBS News coverage of this first presidential debate continues.
44:41Here again is Dan Rather.
44:43And good evening again. Among those watching the Bush-Gore showdown on television tonight was Bush's running mate.
44:49Joining me now from Ohio, the Republican candidate for vice president, former U.S. Defense Secretary Dick Cheney.
44:55Mr. Secretary, thanks for being with us.
44:57I know that you think your man had a very good night.
45:00What do you think was his least good moment?
45:04Well, I thought he was very effective throughout, especially in terms of laying out our philosophy,
45:09the broad strategy that's embodied in our programs,
45:12and the fundamental differences really between the Gore approach, basically take the surplus and spend it on a larger government,
45:19versus our approach, which provides greater choices and more opportunities for people to control their own lives.
45:25I thought Governor Bush was calm, cool, confident, poised throughout. I thought he was very effective.
45:30And whom was Governor Bush trying to reach primarily when he attacked Vice President Gore right there near the end,
45:38what some people are going to read as his strongest attack, certainly in terms of his demeanor, on the Gore fundraising?
45:46Well, I think, remember, he was asked a question. The question came from Jim Lehrer,
45:50asked if character was an issue in this campaign, and Governor Bush made it clear in response to that
45:58that the vice president doesn't really have any credibility on this whole question of campaign finances,
46:04that from the standpoint of campaign fundraising, his track record is pretty spotty, and he's not exactly been a champion of the cause.
46:11Now, when Governor Bush asks you, and I have every reason to believe he will,
46:15where can I improve, where would you tell him he can improve for the next one of these joint appearances?
46:19I think he's really exactly where he needs to be. There's still a lot of issues to talk about.
46:25They're going to have two more debates, of course, ample opportunity to explore a number of other areas as well.
46:30But I thought he was effective tonight in part because he answered the questions.
46:34Oftentimes Al Gore totally ignored the questions.
46:38I thought he was effective because he was an articulate advocate for those programs we put out there.
46:43I think a lot of Americans who are just beginning to focus on this race now with five weeks to go
46:48saw tonight in George Bush the man I've admired in Texas,
46:52and am confident that, in fact, this will have significantly advanced the cause of our campaign tonight.
46:57Mr. Secretary, three days from now is when politicians generally will be looking at the polls resulting from tonight.
47:04What are you going to be looking at closest when those two-and-a-half, three-day-plus polls come out?
47:10Well, polls come and go, Dan, and there are so many of them out there this year
47:16that you can't pay a lot of attention to them if you're one of the candidates.
47:20You've got to get out there and work to explain your situation to the voters and your hopes and aspirations.
47:26The last poll I saw, for example, showed that Al Gore is behind in Tennessee now.
47:31But from our standpoint, we don't want to spend a lot of time on those kinds of questions.
47:35You guys in the press will do your analysis, you'll do your polling.
47:39Polling will give you something else to think about and talk about.
47:43We're interested in winning the election, and that means we've got all our focus on campaigning right down to November 7th.
47:48I'll let you guys worry about the polls.
47:50Dick Cheney, candidate for vice president of the United States, thanks for being with us.
47:53And we're now joined by Al Gore's running mate, the Democratic candidate for vice president,
47:57Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut.
47:59He speaks to us tonight from Richmond, Kentucky.
48:02Senator, thanks for being with us.
48:04Great to be with you, Dan.
48:05I know you think the vice president did very well tonight.
48:08What did you think was your least favorite moment for him?
48:12I honestly thought Al Gore scored a 10 tonight.
48:15I don't think he had a moment in which he was not strong and presidential,
48:20showed his experience, showed how informed he is,
48:24and showed that he has a plan to use our prosperity to make it work for the American people,
48:32to keep the growth going and retire the debt.
48:35I just thought he was very impressive.
48:37I'm proud to be his running mate.
48:39Senator Lieberman, Bob Schieffer, who's with me here,
48:41in his quick analysis after the debate said, in his opinion,
48:45that George Bush may have helped himself more than Vice President Gore in tonight's appearance,
48:51in that Governor Bush showed that he could take command of the stage,
48:56that he stood up there pretty well.
48:58You disagree with that. Tell me why.
49:00Well, I just thought that the vice president was so much more informed, so much stronger,
49:04so much more confident, so much more presidential.
49:07And he put questions to Governor Bush which Governor Bush never answered.
49:12For instance, Governor Bush never really responded to Al Gore's statement,
49:17which is a fact that 43% of the Bush-Cheney tax cut goes to the top 1% of the American people
49:25of incomes of about a million dollars.
49:28Now, that's wasting our surplus.
49:31Instead of putting it where Al and I want to put it,
49:34which is into retiring the debt, middle class tax cuts,
49:38and investing in education, health care, and retirement security.
49:43So, with all respect, I didn't think Governor Bush showed as much command of the issues
49:51and experience as Al Gore did tonight.
49:54Near the end, Governor Bush delivered what I think will be generally seen as his strongest,
50:00at least more forceful, attack on Vice President Gore about fundraising.
50:05Vice President Gore said it was an attack on his character.
50:09What do you think Governor Bush was trying to do with that?
50:12Well, I think in some sense, I believe that when Governor Bush's arguments on the issues failed,
50:20he resorted to an attack on Al Gore's character.
50:23And it's not fair. That's not what this election is about.
50:27Al Gore and I have taken a pledge that we're not going to say a negative personal word
50:31about George Bush and Dick Cheney.
50:33They're good men. They've just got some bad plans for America's future, and we've got better plans.
50:39That's what Al Gore talked about tonight.
50:41So I was disappointed when George Bush went after the Vice President that way.
50:46I don't think it served him well, and it certainly did not serve the campaign and our country well.
50:52Senator Joseph Lieberman, candidate for Vice President of the United States, thanks for being with us.
50:56Thank you, Dan. Have a good night.
50:57Stay here with us now, because in just a moment,
50:59we'll get the first indication of how the Bush-Gore face-off played in America's living rooms.
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53:21I would start with...
53:23Hands like Chris Carter.
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53:28Randy Moss.
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53:54Welcome back.
53:55Well, now we want to find out how tonight's Bush-Gore face-off played with the people who will decide which one of them becomes president.
54:01The voters.
54:02In the minutes after Gore and Bush spoke, CBS News interviewed a nationwide random sample of registered voters.
54:10They used the Internet to help collect the data.
54:12Here, for whatever it may, if anything it may be worth, is what we found.
54:16Who won the debate?
54:17Now, among our respondents, 49% thought Gore did.
54:2034% believed Bush did.
54:2317% said, well, they really can't say.
54:25Remember, this is not a scientific debate, a scientific poll in the way that you would normally define it.
54:31It's a quick glance, and there'll be more tomorrow.
54:35Opinion of candidate after the debate.
54:37Now, with Bush.
54:38They had a better opinion of Bush, 28%.
54:41Better opinion of Gore, 26% before the debate.
54:44Now, worse opinion now.
54:4619% say they now have a worse opinion of Bush than they did before the debate started.
54:5118% say they have a worse opinion of Gore now.
54:54Prepared well enough for the job of president.
54:57Our New York Times-CBS poll, released on Monday, said that 49% believed Bush was prepared well enough for the job of president.
55:0771% said that they thought Vice President Gore was.
55:12Now, after the debate, not much changed, but some.
55:1570% for Gore, 51% for George Bush.
55:20Again, for whatever, if anything, it may be worth.
55:23That's our first pull at a poll coming out of tonight's joint appearance.
55:28Let's talk now to John Roberts, who is watching the debate tonight in Boston, traveling with the Vice President Gore for president campaign.
55:38John?
55:39Well, Dan, the Vice President had come here to Boston tonight with one goal in mind, and that was to take his convention acceptance speech back in August
55:46and cut it up into little bite-sized pieces, each two minutes long, and get on issues, issues, issues,
55:52talk policy in extreme detail and specifics all night long.
55:56And that's what he tried to do.
55:58Sometimes to the detriment of the question that was asked, he sometimes avoided the question.
56:03But it's definitely a sense here tonight that Governor Bush probably did better than most people expected to
56:10and, in fact, held his own against the Vice President.
56:12We bring in CBS News correspondent Bill Whitaker, who covers the Bush campaign for us.
56:16A sound bite city in Boston tonight, Bill?
56:19Well, Dan, let me say that just like Ronald Reagan in his debate with Jimmy Carter had to try to prove to the American people that he wasn't an extremist,
56:29well, George Bush had something to prove to the American people tonight as well.
56:34He set out tonight to try to prove that he had the seriousness and the substance to assume the Oval Office.
56:40And I think, if anything, at least he was able to hold his own and go toe-to-toe with the Vice President today.
56:47And you also must recognize the audience that he is appealing to.
56:51With his base basically secure, he is reaching out tonight to those swing voters in those swing states who still haven't made up their minds.
56:59He's trying to convince them that he has the stuff to be president.
57:02Dan?
57:03Bill Whitaker, Bob Schieffer, just a few seconds remaining.
57:05Well, I think we also ought to comment the vice presidential candidates certainly showed one attribute for being vice president tonight.
57:12They both had high praise and absolutely no criticism for their bosses.
57:17So, for Al Gore and George Bush, that's one down and two to go.
57:20Next up in this series of candidate face-offs, the one and only joint appearance by the vice presidential candidates.
57:25That'll be this Thursday evening at 9 Eastern Time, live from Danville, Kentucky.
57:30CBS News will, of course, provide live across-the-board coverage on television, radio, and the Internet.
57:35Then Bush and Gore square off again one week from tomorrow in North Carolina.
57:41It will be more of a talk show format, we're told, then.
57:43Remember the candidates had a great deal to do with all of these formats, choosing the moderator, how the thing's going to go, all of that.
57:51But they'll be seated around a table the next time out.
57:54There'll be much more about tonight's face-off and the reaction to it on your late local news on this CBS station.
57:59Then tomorrow on the early show and the CBS Evening News.
58:02And 24 hours a day on our CBS News website at cbs.com.
58:07Note that 60 Minutes 2 will return next Tuesday night at its regular time, 9 o'clock, 8 Central.
58:14Now, for Bob Schieffer, Gloria Borger, John Roberts, and Bill Whitaker,
58:18Dan Rather reporting from CBS News headquarters in New York.
58:21Good night.
58:29Good night.
58:39Stay with CBS News for the most complete coverage of Campaign 2000.
58:51Celebrate the sound of America, the CMA Awards.
58:54Catch the excitement of Music City's biggest night.
58:57We'll go backstage where rehearsals are in a fever pitch for the Country Music Awards.
59:01Do you want to meet the Lord today?
59:03No, sir.
59:04Well, put your seatbelt on.
59:05Then meet Craig T. Nelson, star of the thrilling new CBS series, The District.
59:08He's the top cop in the nation's capital with a can-do attitude.
59:12Plus, get a low-cost way to give your living space a whole new look.
59:15How tassels can add the perfect touch.
59:18And the recipe for a chocolate chip treat the whole family will love, Wednesday at 1230.
59:23Coming up on the next E.T.
59:25Hard times for Sybil Shepard.
59:27From her brush with death.
59:29I was in the hospital and had an emergency surgery, almost died.
59:33To being dumped by her fiancé after her network show was canceled.
59:37Then, he's the cross-dressing comedian who won two Emmys.
59:40Now, why France star Matt LeBlanc is halfway around the world delivering his statues.
59:45I'm his favorite transvestite.
59:47And at home with a Backstreet Boy.
59:49Next E.T.
59:51Tuesday at 1135.
59:54Watch Montel weekdays at 4 right here on News Channel 5.