Fawad Chaudhry Maulana Fazal ur Rehman Say Kiyu Milnay Gaye ? Big Revelation
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Fawad Chaudhry Maulana Fazal ur Rehman Say Kiyu Milnay Gaye ? Big Revelation
Fawad Chaudhry Maulana Fazal ur Rehman Say Kiyu Milnay Gaye ? Big Revelation
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00:00I will tell you that in a while. But before that, please tell me that at this time, constitutional
00:06amendments can't be done. But constitutional amendments do happen, even without a two-thirds
00:12majority. It's not a big deal. It has happened in Pakistan. So what's the big deal for government?
00:17No, it hasn't happened yet. If the constitution has to be changed, then that's a different
00:22thing. What has happened so far, there is no concern about the constitution. But I think
00:26the Supreme Court will look at it. I don't think so. The judges who have gone to this
00:32extent, they will let it go to the extent that you defeat it and you do it. So this will
00:38be then an institutional issue. I don't think anyone will let it happen easily. And look,
00:44there is no need for a power block in the party. It can't be done because it wasn't
00:50done at that time when so much pressure was put on after the election. If it wasn't
00:54done, then it can't be done at all now. So I think these are more airy things. There
00:59is no substance in them. You know that Mr. Wada does a proper presentation nowadays
01:04and that presentation is correct. No, it's absolutely correct. But his presentation
01:08was not correct in the Supreme Court. There is a bigger one which is not correct. But
01:12Faisal obviously understands the situation and speaks according to it. Obviously, he
01:18is like a brother to me. I have a huge respect for him. But Faisal's presentation is not
01:23correct.
01:24One more thing that I came to know in my program was that when Mr. Maulana was having
01:31a conversation with the Jamaat, on one hand Asad Kaisar and the rest of the committee
01:36were meeting him. Then another person came. Mr. Kamran Murtaza has shed light on it.
01:42Let's listen to that first.
01:44Some friends came from PTI and they kept coming repeatedly. But after that some friends
01:51started coming. They didn't have a deep relationship with PTI. Then we didn't know
01:57who to believe.
01:59Senator, who were these friends?
02:01Then we talked about the committee.
02:03Senator, who were these people who didn't have a deep relationship with PTI?
02:07Mr. Fawad came after that.
02:09Fawad Chaudhary?
02:10Yes. We have no objection to anyone.
02:12What did he come to talk about, Senator?
02:14He also talked on behalf of PTI.
02:16On what basis did you go to Fawad Chaudhary?
02:19No, no. Kamran Murtaza was not in the meeting. Neither did he know.
02:22I have a very old relationship with Mr. Maulana.
02:26Actually, my uncle, Mr. Chaudhary Altaf, had a very good relationship with him.
02:30Maulana's father, Mr. Mufti Mehmood, came to our house in jail.
02:33So, we have a very old relationship with him.
02:36Obviously, I have a good relationship with the rest of them as well.
02:38So, I keep meeting them.
02:39So, were you representing PTI or were you personally meeting them?
02:42We were having a general political discussion on that.
02:45Obviously, I was in PTI. Do you remember?
02:47When I was in jail, I have been saying this since then.
02:49And after the election, I have been saying this again and again that
02:52Maulana Fazlur Rehman's alliance with PTI is a very important political step for PTI.
02:59And we should go in that direction.
03:00But regarding this meeting, and the fact that you went there,
03:03because Mr. Kamran is saying that you are representing PTI.
03:05This happens to me with everyone.
03:07I am telling you that I am in PTI.
03:09Mr. Khan knows.
03:10But I have no contact with Mr. Khan.
03:12But Mr. Khan does not know.
03:13So, were you there for a personal discussion?
03:15Of course, I was there for a political discussion.
03:18So, the discussion that took place there,
03:20was it about the alliance with PTI?
03:22Which direction was Maulana Fazlur Rehman's tilt towards, Mr. Fawad?
03:24No, Maulana will definitely go in alliance with PTI.
03:27So, what are the hurdles?
03:29Basically, the hurdles are that he is late.
03:32And he is late because of PTI.
03:34I am talking to you about this.
03:36You see, there is a problem as well.
03:38In PTI, apart from Mr. Asad Kaisar,
03:40the other 3-4 people,
03:42unfortunately, they do not have any personal relationships.
03:45Because they are not in politics.
03:47They do not know each other.
03:49So, there is a reluctance.
03:51If I do not know you,
03:53then obviously, I cannot talk to you frankly.
03:55So, there is a problem because of that.
03:57But anyway, you are leading this effort,
03:59Mr. Asad Kaisar and Mr. Mehmood Achakzai.
04:01And it is best to let them lead.
04:04Strengthen their hands.
04:06And that with GDA,
04:08with Jamaat-e-Islami,
04:10with Maulana,
04:12this opposition alliance is very important for PTI.
04:14We can see the tilt of Maulana.
04:17He did not say anything about the government.
04:19He did not make it clear.
04:21He is waiting here.
04:23So, it is better not to make him wait.
04:25But there is another angle.
04:27The current leadership of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
04:29does not want Mr. Khan to come out.
04:31This is what Mr. Faisal Wada says.
04:33He does not want him to come out.
04:35I do not want him to come out.
04:37I do not want Shibli to say that
04:39she will not be loyal to Mr. Khan.
04:41I do not want Gauhar to say that.
04:43I do not know the other two.
04:45I do not know Hamid Khan and Rauf.
04:47But these people,
04:49Umar Ayub,
04:51these people want Mr. Khan to come out.
04:53Obviously, Ali Ameen, Mr. Asad Kaisar,
04:55who will be closer to Mr. Khan?
04:57They have given their entire lives to PTI.
04:59But this party,
05:01which has three or four members,
05:03their problem is only their competence.
05:05It is not the loyalty that counts.
05:07Even after today's decision,
05:09do you doubt their competence?
05:11In this,
05:13PTI has no role.
05:15Obviously,
05:17if someone has a role in this,
05:19then it is Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:21You must remember that when
05:23the Bishawar High Court gave the judgment,
05:25Ali Ameen was the one chief minister
05:27who resisted it.
05:29And it is Ali Ameen Gandapur's role
05:31in this case as well.
05:33I would say that
05:35the interviews of the government
05:37and the lawyers of the
05:39Selection Commission,
05:41they have done a lot.
05:43But you are saying that
05:45you do not know about Rauf Hassan
05:47and you do not know about Hamid Khan.
05:49Mr. Hamid Khan is one of the founding members.
05:51We have not seen him.
05:53Was he very active?
05:55I do not know.
05:57He was not active from 2016 onwards.
05:59He was active in 2016.
06:01But he was not active in our PTI.
06:03Actually, when our government left,
06:05he was out of the country.
06:07He has just come.
06:09After that, when they beat us up
06:11and threw us in the jails,
06:13we do not know about him.