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00:30The court is unanimous on the first question, just like Faiz Issa has said that these seats
00:43should go to Sunni or PTI, no other judge has said that, so I think the Supreme Court is
00:50unanimous that these seats cannot go to People's Party or Noon.
00:54The second question is whether these seats should go to PTI or Sunni.
00:59There is a division on that.
01:02In my opinion, the decision based on justice was of Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
01:10in which he said 4-5 weeks ago that since the Election Commission,
01:16and the Supreme Court is unanimous on this too, that the Election Commission of Pakistan
01:21has misinterpreted the decision of the Supreme Court.
01:25And that is why Mr. Shah said that if this is given to the Election Commission,
01:30it should be given a fresh three days, and the people should again...
01:34The people who were elected free should be given three days,
01:37and if they want to go to PTI, then this path should also be opened,
01:40because the explanation was wrong by the Election Commission of the Supreme Court.
01:44If you look at it justicially, then this is it.
01:47But I don't know...
01:49Which is also called complete justice.
01:51Complete justice, not just one line of justice.
01:54Complete justice is that the people whom you believe,
01:57the 13 judges, including the Chief Justice,
02:01they believe that the Election Commission misinterpreted the decision of the Supreme Court.
02:07If the Election Commission did not misinterpret the decision of the Supreme Court,
02:10then why should the people or PTI be punished for it?
02:13That is why you should do complete justice.
02:16But let's see, and in the morning...
02:18There is not much time, you can come at 9.
02:21Let's see where this decision will go.
02:23What about the return of PTI?
02:24Politics is stuck.
02:25What is the return of PTI? Where have we gone?
02:28If we had gone, then today we would have been sitting in front of you as the Federal Minister.
02:32What? I mean...
02:34You had gone, you had gone forcefully.
02:36No, we had not gone, we had not even left.
02:40Whatever has happened here, in Punjab, especially in Islamabad,
02:44in the rest of the areas, people may not have gone that way.
02:48What has happened here with the people is in front of you.
02:51And it is an easy deal, you can go and leave, there is no problem.
02:54But do you feel that the space has opened up?
02:57Because you yourself are saying that...
02:59No, it has not opened up that much.
03:00What happened in Punjab, what happened in Islamabad,
03:02has that space, are those pressures over now?
03:07I hear that now that the situation has improved, people have come.
03:11Those whose situation was better before, nothing is happening to them now.
03:14Those whose situation was bad before, we have bad people too.
03:17Even today, the Election Commission has issued a warrant.
03:20There in Lahore, our rallies are going on every day.
03:24So the issue is that those whose situation was better before,
03:27they are still better.
03:28Those whose situation was bad, they are still bad.
03:30Countless people...
03:31So if you are saying that Mr. Fawad's situation is bad,
03:33if they take you away, then you will leave PTI?
03:35Of course, of course.
03:36I am not a Tarzan, I am made of iron.
03:39If they take me away and start beating me,
03:42I will catch you right now, hang you upside down and start beating you.
03:45You will do whatever I say.
03:46Is this what happened to you?
03:47Or is it your misunderstanding that you will not do it?
03:48No, no, when did I say that?
03:49You are absolutely right.
03:50I am not Superman at all.
03:51You are not Superman.
03:52He is the same person who is sitting in London.
03:54So you are saying that if this happens to me again, I will leave it again.
03:57Yes, of course. What can I do?
03:58Then why are you going?
03:59Then wait for that time when it is not necessary?
04:02Now the time...
04:03You see, the time has to change.
04:05We have to try to change the time.
04:07If everyone stays alive at the same time,
04:09then the time will not change at all.
04:11We should try our best.
04:13And the truth is that I have two or three guns.
04:17Either I have an Evanfield apartment and I go out.
04:20I run out of pounds on the third day.
04:22I run out of dollars.
04:23Thank God I am sitting outside in jail.
04:25So I don't have that habit.
04:27But we cannot go out.
04:29We don't have anything outside.
04:31We cannot pick up a gun and climb mountains.
04:34We don't have the capacity.
04:36We cannot go out.
04:38We cannot drink water.
04:40So we will only work with a petition.
04:43So this is a petition.
04:44We are not people to fight.
04:46What can we fight?
04:47See, if you say this to me...
04:49I have accepted this.
04:50See, everyone has their own threshold.
04:52Who tolerates jail, who doesn't.
04:54But to tolerate pressure,
04:57everyone has their own threshold.
05:00No two people can be the same.
05:03And they can't be the same in any decision.
05:05Everyone has their own threshold.
05:07And the pressure is different everywhere.
05:09You were here.
05:11You didn't go out.
05:12The big people have gone out.
05:14They have no idea what happened here.
05:18A lot of people have seen what happened here.
05:21But if I have to give you an advice,
05:24if someone comes to you again tomorrow,
05:26it's not just that.
05:28See, let's talk about politics.
05:32Justice was broken with a lot of pressure.
05:34The shuttle service was going on.
05:36It didn't break.
05:37The shuttle service was going on.
05:39Come from Delhi, do a press conference,
05:41say goodbye,
05:42go home,
05:43and say that we are leaving politics,
05:45leaving the party.
05:46If the party was broken with so much pressure,
05:49is it so easy for them to let you come back?