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00:00We're going to be talking MILF Manor, episode 11, we're also going to be discussing 90-Day
00:16Fiancé, The Other Way, episode 2.
00:18I think we're on season 6 of The Other Way, episode 2.
00:22So we're going to get into that.
00:24I was a little surprised that the episode was one hour tonight, because we got a premiere
00:31of two hours.
00:32So I was a little surprised before it even really got started, it was over, so I was
00:37a little surprised.
00:38But we got a lot of drama, so I feel like we still have something to work with at least.
00:47Hi Karsta, hi everybody.
00:51So yeah, we're going to get into the probably MILF Manor first, right, because that came
00:56on first.
00:57So I feel like it's probably...
00:58Hi.
00:59Hi.
01:00Hello, ladies.
01:01How are you guys?
01:02Running late.
01:03Sorry, guys.
01:04Oh, no, it's okay.
01:05I was actually planning for later because I assumed the episode is two hours.
01:10I did too.
01:11So right when it went off, I was like, what's going on?
01:15Why is it over?
01:16I'm not ready.
01:17You know, I had other things going on.
01:18So yeah, I was a little surprised, but I want to start with MILF Manor though, because that
01:23came on first and it was kind of a really crazy episode, right?
01:27Like it was friends and family episode.
01:30We're on episode 11, by the way, of MILF Manor.
01:31There's only one more to go, episode 12.
01:34And it was a lot more tame, this friends and family episode than, you know, first season.
01:38The first season, it was a little crazier because the MILFs brought their ex-husbands,
01:44I believe last year, and then the sons were there interacting with the ex-husbands.
01:49It was a lot more, what's the word I'm looking for?
01:54Uncomfortable, right?
01:55And this episode though, we got a little insight on a lot of different people like Kelly Mack's
02:01daughter Michelle showed up, Joey from season one showed up to support his mom, Barbie's
02:07friend showed up.
02:08So let me ask you this question.
02:10When the women brought friends instead of their kids, did that raise a red flag for
02:15you?
02:16Because I was like, if you want to meet the person and get to know them, the closest person
02:20to them would be their child.
02:22So it was really weird to me that a lot of the women brought their close friends, like
02:27what's her name?
02:28Christina brought her close friend.
02:31They didn't want to bring their children or their ex or anyone close.
02:34And I don't know, that was really telling for me, like, why so mysterious?
02:39I get it because we actually met Barbie's son on a FaceTime call with Barbie and Chris.
02:46And it was really awkward because her son is one year younger than Chris, right?
02:51Can you imagine having that conversation with your mom and a guy that you could have literally
02:56sat next to in school?
02:57I can't imagine having that conversation with my son.
03:01My son is-
03:02Right?
03:03But with someone who could have sat, he could have sat next to him in school.
03:06That's how close in age they were.
03:08That's like a nightmare.
03:09Like, I love the fact that my mom is super religious and she only believes in marriage
03:14and she's only, after her divorce, she didn't really date much.
03:18So sorry, mom, that you didn't.
03:20But at least I don't have to worry about you FaceTiming me to introduce me to your boyfriend
03:25that I might have went to school with.
03:26Like, that's like horrific.
03:28That's so many years of therapy for me, right?
03:31Like, seriously, that's like sleeping with your son.
03:35It's disgusting.
03:36I know.
03:38Right?
03:39Because that was kind of the topic on X last night.
03:41They were like, everyone is of age, nothing is weird, but it's just gross.
03:45Yeah.
03:46Right?
03:47Like, no one's doing anything illegal, but it's totally gross to think that this dude
03:51and her son were born within 12 months of each other.
03:55And it's just, it's wild to me.
03:57And it was Barbie's birthday also.
03:59Happy birthday to Barbie.
04:00I think Barbie's really beautiful, but I also think that Barbie has a lot of inner issues
04:04because it kind of came out when she was explaining the call with her son, EJ, to everybody and
04:11Kelly happened to be in the group, you know, Kelly and Barbie never really interacted so
04:15far this season.
04:16I thought about it last night.
04:18So this interaction, it was kind of passive aggressive, right?
04:23Like, it seemed like Barbie was trying to be rude, but in a nice way.
04:28And Kelly caught on to it.
04:29And Kelly was just like, hey, you know, I don't know what you're trying to say about
04:32season one, but thanks to me, with season one, you're here for season two.
04:39But we all felt what Barbie was saying.
04:41Season one was tacky.
04:42Tacky as could be.
04:43Oh, yeah.
04:44It was tacky and gross, and it made you feel like the FBI might show up because you're
04:48watching something weird.
04:49Right?
04:50Yeah.
04:51Like, it did make you feel that way.
04:52It was disgusting on some places.
04:55Yeah.
04:56It was bad.
04:57So I was having that conversation on Twitter last night because people were saying, remember
05:00when the sex ed situation where the moms were teaching the sons how to do sexual stuff?
05:06Like, it was to the point where this is trashy as hell.
05:09Yeah.
05:10Right?
05:11So I get where Barbie was coming from.
05:12Like, you know, if this was last season, I wouldn't have done the show.
05:15I understand what she means.
05:16But Kelly took it personally.
05:18And you know, I don't know.
05:19So are we team Barbie or team Kelly?
05:21That's what I wanted to ask.
05:22Like, do you feel like Kelly was right for defending herself?
05:26Or do you think that Barbie kind of went off on her and it was extra?
05:30How do you feel?
05:31We all know I'll never ever be team Kelly.
05:33Yeah, I don't like neither.
05:35I don't like either one of them.
05:36I ain't team one of them.
05:40But Barbie, Barbie wasn't wrong.
05:41She was talking to someone else about a phone conversation.
05:45She said, because season one was tacky, and then just tried to move on.
05:49She prefaced it with no offense, but season one was tacky.
05:52Well, what part of season one did she just want her to say because you're a nasty whore?
05:57Like, is that what she was waiting for?
05:59Because that's what I would have said.
06:00Well, she did, you know, what's that word is antagonize.
06:03She antagonized her.
06:04Barbie did try to keep it classy and keep, you know, the confrontation down.
06:09She was just like, yeah, no, it was tacky.
06:12I wouldn't have done it.
06:13It's not my scene.
06:14Barbie was just trying to finish her story.
06:16She was in the middle of telling somebody else's story.
06:18She was telling someone else's story about the conversation with her son, about the feelings
06:23she got from her son, how well Chris kept it together.
06:25And Kelly just had to insert her ass everywhere it doesn't go, as usual.
06:30And she got put in her place.
06:32Well, it's the Kelly show.
06:33And I think that's what Barbie was trying to say.
06:36She's like, it's always about you.
06:37And it's funny, because that's kind of what Kelly was trying to say about her.
06:41She's like, no, no one's paying attention to you.
06:43So you're doing, and I feel like they were both calling each other fake, and they were
06:46calling each other clout chaser, thirst traps.
06:49And I think to an extent, they both are, right?
06:54One thing that Barbie's son EJ said was, every time my mom brings a guy home, blah, blah,
07:01blah.
07:02So obviously, she's bringing guys home left and right.
07:04And obviously, they're younger.
07:06So yeah.
07:07Oh, yeah.
07:08I didn't catch that.
07:09You know what?
07:10I didn't catch that.
07:11That's true.
07:12That's what's up with Chris.
07:13That's what's up with Chris.
07:15She's been going live, and she's been talking a lot about reacting to the episodes.
07:20And she did say something the other day, where she was like, yeah, I've been into men,
07:25and I share intimacy with lots of different people, you know, basically implying she's
07:30gotten around.
07:31You know?
07:32And you know, it is what it is.
07:33I don't shame people.
07:36She gives me prostitute vibes.
07:39Yeah.
07:40Well, really?
07:41Yeah.
07:42Yeah.
07:43So more than just a stripper, you're thinking, boom, boom, room, back of the house type
07:50situation.
07:51Really?
07:52Yes.
07:53Why do you think her son was so upset?
07:56And why do you think he had that kind of reaction?
07:59And why do you think he stated what he stated?
08:02Every time my mom brings a different guy home, they just hit it and quit it.
08:09Yeah.
08:10Yeah.
08:11I mean, let's just back up too.
08:14Imagine what it's like, say you're in sixth or seventh grade, and your mom is a stripper,
08:19right?
08:20And you know, for some weird reason, news like this travels.
08:24Like if she had a PhD, nobody would fucking know, right?
08:27But since she's a stripper, all of your friends are somehow gonna know.
08:31And like, imagine how early in life, he's been having to defend his mother's actions.
08:36And I think that was the look of like, exhaustion, when he answered the phone, and he's like,
08:41where's this guy?
08:42Like, how many more times do I have to defend my mom?
08:45And I could see that in his face, because he was like, I know what they're gonna say.
08:49I know the backlash it's gonna bring, because he's been living this his whole life.
08:53And you know, when you're in school, because let's just be real, I know, when I was younger,
08:57when people's like, I went to a Christian school, so we didn't have any stripper moms.
09:01But we did have like moms who had kids that weren't married.
09:04You know, it was super ridiculous.
09:06So that type of information, or women that were single that ended up pregnant, you know,
09:11because I was in a cult.
09:12So everything was wrong.
09:14So like, that information always was going around.
09:16And those kids were always having to deal with bullying, name calling, and I just saw
09:22it in his face.
09:23He was just like, I'm so tired of trying to tame my mom, right?
09:28Like, I just-
09:29But also, did anybody else feel like he was a little bummed out that he didn't get to
09:32be on the show?
09:33Because you hear him talk, you hear him say all the things, and you're like, this poor
09:37kid, he's going through all the shit.
09:39But then when Barbie goes out, and she's talking to everybody, she's like, if Kelly
09:43would have shut her damn mouth and give her a chance to finish, she said, we talked about
09:47the show, and what to expect and what was going to happen.
09:51So basing it on last season being tacky, that tells me that he was ready to come on the
09:57show and meet some milfs.
09:59Oh, yeah, absolutely.
10:02I'm pretty sure that that was probably the plan.
10:04Yeah, so now he's on the phone.
10:06Yeah, they changed the show around completely.
10:08From last season to this season, it's like almost we're watching a different show.
10:12And I think that it was because of a lot of backlashes.
10:15I remember when we started the podcast last year on it, I had people reach out to me and
10:19say, I'm not watching your podcast, because that show is just trashy.
10:23And they were like, I'm disappointed that you would talk about it.
10:27That's how much people didn't like the level of classlessness that it was giving.
10:32People really didn't like the vibe.
10:34So I think that they had to change it.
10:36Because you know, nobody wants to show it to be complete backlash.
10:39You want it to make news.
10:40But you also don't want people outside the signs, you know, outside of the live picketing
10:45too.
10:46Like you want people to talk about it, but in a way that is helpful.
10:49And I think that this season, because oh, you know what Kelly, not Kelly, Sean saw Kelly
10:56Mack's daughter and he was like, see, this is the type of girl that I'm hoping to see
11:01here.
11:02And I think last season, this is exactly what they would have tried to pull, right?
11:05Because his dad Darren would have been dating Kelly Mack, and then his dad would be dating
11:12her daughter.
11:13Then vice versa.
11:14You know, that's the type of trash that they would have pulled.
11:16But I think they're trying to keep it tame this season.
11:18When we got the previews for this week, last week, I thought they were bringing in daughters.
11:23And that was going to throw in the whole mix.
11:25The daughters could date the dads, the daughters could date the sons.
11:28That's what I was, I mean, not gonna lie, I was kind of hoping for that.
11:32I was really bummed when I found out it wasn't.
11:34Me too.
11:35Me too.
11:36They classed it up a little too classy, right?
11:38I feel like we're watching like, a religious gospel dating show.
11:42Like, you know, keep it a little trashy, right?
11:45Like I want to be-
11:46Yeah, we gotta have just a pinch of trash in there.
11:49Yeah, you know, we watch trash TV, keep it trashy.
11:53You know, bring that lady's daughter in there and then try to get the daughter to like the
11:58same guy.
11:59Keep a little trash in there, you know, just a little bit.
12:01We're not asking for like a landfill, you know, just one garbage can and just tip it
12:06over just a little bit, you know, just a little bit, just so we can cover it.
12:09I mean, they traumatized us with the watermelon and the, what was the other, was it syrup
12:13or honey or something?
12:15Oh Lord.
12:16They traumatized us with that, so why not just throw a little bit more in there?
12:20Yeah, that watermelon, I questioned how we were watching that on regular TV.
12:26Because I was like, this is Cinemax.
12:28Like I know that it's implied, but come on, like this is regular TV.
12:33We're not watching Cinemax.
12:35Like they really pushed the envelope and I think that that was the highest peak for this
12:41season.
12:42Like they wanted people to be mad or irritated, but not pick it and boycott.
12:46And I remember a lot of people would send me tweets and they're like, I'm not watching
12:49that.
12:50It's disgusting.
12:51I have morals, you know, it really struck a nerve with a lot of people.
12:54They were like, well, I was raised better than that to be watching Milf Manor.
12:57You know, like they definitely weren't going to be a part of that.
12:59So next week, we're going to watch the finale and see who exactly ends up together, which
13:07my only high hope is Kelly, Mac and Darren.
13:11They seem like the real only genuine connection.
13:14Kelly, Disco Mommy is talking to Dan, the newest guy, but she talks to everybody.
13:21So it's like, I don't really know if that's a genuine connection or if she's just like,
13:25it's the flavor of the week.
13:26Also, Rebecca was like absent this season, this episode, which was weird.
13:29It was weird.
13:30I was like, she was like the topic of discussion, everybody's fighting and screaming and then
13:35this episode, I had to look for her.
13:37I was like, well, where's Rebecca?
13:38Where's Rebecca?
13:39She's like barely there, which is really interesting.
13:41Oh, and Barbie and Chris left the manor in the middle of the night.
13:45So that was a big bombshell.
13:48So they packed their stuff in the middle of the night and they left, they took their love
13:51to the real world, which is not going to work.
13:52It's going to fail because we've already, you know, we have the internet.
13:55So we have Instagram.
13:56We saw that Chris is attacking Barbie and Chris's mom is also attacking Barbie, right?
14:02Like, can you imagine?
14:03No offense, I'm not coming for you, Chris, but you're a 28 year old MMA fighter and your
14:08mom is yelling at your ex-girlfriend on the internet.
14:11Can you imagine?
14:12What?
14:13No.
14:14Well, Chris probably found out, Barbie's son probably told Chris, that's another reason
14:20why they probably didn't take Barbie's son on to the show is because he was going to
14:24throw her under the bus and tell Chris exactly how many guys she's actually been with.
14:29I mean, you know what I'm saying?
14:31Because you put two and two together, there is a really good reason why.
14:37So if they're no longer together, then he probably found out the reason why.
14:42Yeah.
14:43Well, it's only a matter of time.
14:44You know what people say, your past catches up to you, right?
14:46And if your reputation, Taylor Swift said something about it, it precedes you or whatever.
14:53People are eventually going to know what you're about and then, you know, a lot of people
14:56have been saying Barbie gives, she belongs to the street vibes.
15:00You know, like she's been, yeah, like she's that doorknob at Grand Central Station and
15:06everybody had to turn it to get on the train, right?
15:08So she does give those vibes.
15:10Again, Barbie, I love you.
15:11You're great.
15:12I don't know if you're listening to this, if you are, sorry.
15:15But you know, you do give those vibes off.
15:17And you know, it is what it is.
15:19There's nothing wrong.
15:20I don't judge anybody for being extra, extra intimate with everyone, right?
15:24I don't judge anybody for that.
15:26But you know, if you're trying to nail a serious relationship with a guy, because you know,
15:32Chris doesn't really have a lot of experience, you know, in long term relationships, you
15:36might want to, you know, seek somebody who's a little more in your area of numbers, right?
15:44And you know, but so I want to talk about the other way, right?
15:48Because that came on and we got a lot of Sarfor and Shekinah, which was very, very difficult
15:52for me to get through, like, I respect relationships, I respect people, I don't respect Sarfor and
15:57Shekinah, I'm just gonna be real, like, I just hate them, like, as characters on TV
16:03in real life, praying to God, they're decent human beings.
16:06But like, what really irritates me about Shekinah, is she plays both sides of the fence, I guess
16:12like, she's like, Oh, I'm trying to have to put my foot down and make him get rid of
16:17his bottle collection.
16:18Because that, you know, represents women that he has memories with, like, but you're letting
16:22him construct your nose, and tell him what you can and can't eat.
16:26So do you want him to control you?
16:29Yes or no?
16:30Or do you want to have your own mind?
16:32You can't have both.
16:33Yeah.
16:34Like, you can't think for yourself, but also tell him, you know, what can I think for you?
16:39Right?
16:40She really, and okay, and this is gonna come off as really mean, but she left her daughter,
16:46but she brought her dog.
16:47Yep.
16:48Make it-
16:49I was gonna say the same thing.
16:50Make it make sense.
16:51Because she was like, meet your son.
16:52And I was like, what about your daughter, the one that you gave birth to, where's she
16:55at?
16:56If you thought enough to bring, because she called the dog her son, her child.
17:00And she was like, I couldn't imagine leaving my child.
17:03And I'm like, but you did.
17:05You legit did.
17:06You legit left your daughter, who the hell knows, in some boarding school.
17:09And, you know, we all saw that Paris Hilton documentary of what happened to her in a boarding
17:15school.
17:16Boarding schools are not the, any school, like, let's be real, nothing in this world
17:21is safe anymore, but sending your child to like a random boarding school and hoping things
17:25are okay, especially a girl, because, you know, Paris Hilton wrote a whole book and
17:30she's been in Congress trying to change these laws, the way that they treat children in
17:34general and boarding school boys too.
17:36It's just terrifying.
17:37Yeah.
17:39Hey, Mikey, congrats on your wedding and marriage, right?
17:43That was kind of like a big deal.
17:45Mikey Burke is in here.
17:47He's married and he's got a, he inherited a kid, right?
17:50So congrats to him.
17:51I saw sad news about that, but I don't know, I don't want to say anything.
17:55Oh, I hope nothing is going wrong.
17:57This was really recent.
17:58I hope it's still, I hope things are still going great.
18:02But yeah.
18:03And Sarper, I don't know, I just, I could just-
18:07Hi, Mr. Carr.
18:09Oh, yeah.
18:10You know what?
18:11Is it weird that his car was like equivalent to a 2008 Kia?
18:16I assume that a man, I assume that a man who had stripped for like 30 years would drive
18:22like a Bentley.
18:23Am I wrong to assume that?
18:25But wait, this is after he's telling you that he's the bad boy and gives the bad boy vibes
18:31and he's never had a dog because he's a bad boy.
18:34And bad boys like cats.
18:35I don't know what kind of shows he's watching, but every bad boy I've ever seen doesn't drive
18:40a 2008 Camry.
18:42They don't freaking have kitties that they leave all over the place.
18:47There is nothing about him screams bad boy.
18:50Nothing.
18:51No.
18:52I mean, it could be a cultural difference, right?
18:54Like maybe bad boy in Turkey is not the same as bad boy in the US, you know?
19:01It's really interesting to me.
19:02And what else?
19:03There was something else he did this episode.
19:05I could just have a million things.
19:07He said that he was, he was, what was that?
19:11How he said that he was, um, like a Catholic preacher, faithful or something like that
19:20while she was gone for three months.
19:22Come on, man.
19:23Seriously.
19:24Come on.
19:25I've been living the priest's life, he said.
19:27Yeah.
19:28The priest's life.
19:29That's it.
19:30That's how he said it.
19:31Come on.
19:33Do you think that, do you think he was living the priest's life for three months?
19:38No.
19:39I don't think that he knows what a priest would do.
19:42Like I think that he's, I don't know.
19:45I labeled him on one of these posts on Instagram the other day, and I felt bad after I'm walking
19:49STD.
19:50And people were like, that's mean.
19:52And I was like, but it's true.
19:53It's like, if an STD had a face, it would be Sarper's face.
19:58Like if you, you know how when, when we were in school, they would show us pictures of
20:01infected things and we would know like that was an STD, that's, they would show us a picture
20:06of Sarper.
20:07That's an STD.
20:08Stay away from them.
20:10Those are bad for you.
20:11They're going to make you sick.
20:12And they're incurable.
20:13Right?
20:14Like, that's just how I feel.
20:15I agree.
20:16It's an incurable disease.
20:17And watching, watching their story, and it's like, they got a lot of camera time.
20:21And I feel like TLC did it on purpose, because they know how everybody feels about them.
20:26And the, well, wait, I gotta talk about the 143 page letter, before we move on, because
20:33I want to talk about James and Tata, but the 143 page letter, so, so kinda is pissed off
20:41because Sarper won't get rid of the bottle collection, which, whatever.
20:44First of all, they're empty, who the hell keeps them?
20:48But anyway, she decided that instead of having an adult conversation and putting her foot
20:52down like any woman would do, she's going to, like a seventh grader, bring a love letter
20:57she got in middle school or elementary school, and plant it in the house so Sarper can see
21:02it.
21:03And then he can see what it feels like when people hold on to other things.
21:08And first of all, Sarper existed before Shekinah, and Shekinah existed before Sarper.
21:13So they were in relationships, they were intimate with people, like this, you can't erase, I
21:19mean, I get it, because you remember Jasmine, she was like destroying photos and napkins
21:24of his ex-wife.
21:25I get that you don't want to walk into your house and see a picture of somebody's ex on
21:29the wall.
21:30I get that.
21:31But the fact that she wants to make it as though a man who supposedly has sex with 2,500
21:36people only has sex with her, is kind of ridiculous at this point.
21:40He's, he is who he is, he's a hoe, okay?
21:45You are trying to marry a hoe.
21:47And at this point, you have to accept him for being a hoe, like, I don't, there's nothing
21:51wrong with it.
21:52But you have to accept him for who he is.
21:54And who he is, he literally has a book of exes of every time he was a hoe, and it's
22:00a lot of exes.
22:01So it's like, I don't know what she's trying to turn them into.
22:04Yeah.
22:05Also, I want to touch base on his fake tears at the airport.
22:10But now that we saw Sean and what's her name, Aaliyah, be filmed three times at the airport,
22:17three different sets.
22:18Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:19Okay.
22:20Now I will forever pay attention to the airport scenes, like, so much.
22:26So she kind of comes walking out with her little thing, pushing it, right?
22:31He starts crying, blah, blah, blah.
22:33She's just got her little thing with her luggage.
22:36No dog, no dog crate.
22:38Then all of a sudden, the dog in the dog crate appear and she's pushing that and he's pushing
22:41the cart.
22:42So how many times did we fake those tears?
22:46Well, I'm assuming that he can cry on demand, right?
22:51You know, I feel like actors are really good.
22:54And if hypothetically, let's say he slept with 2,500 women, you would have to be a good
22:59actor.
23:00Because there's not a lot going on with Sarper, right?
23:03Like, he's not like a woman walks up to him and panties are dropping, right?
23:07So I feel like he's been acting-
23:09According to him they are.
23:11Well, according to him, but those people also-
23:14If I walked by him, my panties would be jumping out of my luggage trying to get on my body.
23:19Right?
23:20They would grow a protective film to make sure you don't catch a disease, right?
23:25They would deploy the shields, right?
23:27They would deploy the shields and be like, oh my God, I have to protect Cara.
23:31There is a walking STD within our distance.
23:35They would deploy the shields and try to save you, right?
23:38At this point, I don't know.
23:41I don't want to waste too much time with them because I know they're going to give us so
23:43much more to hate throughout the season, right?
23:46So I want to get into this Statler and Dempsey.
23:48So we're watching Dempsey sell all her stuff and, you know, we know how this ends up.
23:55So like, we're kind of watching the story and rewind, right?
23:59Because we know where the outcome is, so we're watching it like we're rewinding it backwards.
24:03So Dempsey says she sold her house, she sold her car.
24:05I'm wondering if she did those things because Dempsey said that this is a trip.
24:10They're not going to live in this van forever.
24:13This is something that she's always wanted to do, and this is a trip.
24:15So I'm like, it wouldn't make sense to sell your house and sell everything you own.
24:19Like, even if you're gone for a year, if you own those things, store them, you know, because
24:24her house-
24:25Watch the house drive away, right?
24:26Well, right.
24:27You can literally store her house because that's the first thing I thought.
24:29I was like, your house is literally mobile.
24:32You can literally pay to put your house in like a warehouse until you need it.
24:36So the fact that she was trying to make it seem like she was selling everything because,
24:40you know, in the end, Statler says that she got stuck paying the full bill for this van.
24:46And it made no sense to me because I was like, if Dempsey's selling all this stuff, she should
24:51have enough money to cover this van.
24:52The van is used, guys.
24:53This isn't like a Mercedes Sprinter that they got off the lot.
24:56This is a used van that's been through a lot.
24:59Like it had beds in it, it was already converted.
25:03It wasn't a Mercedes Sprinter, though, you know, those are like $180,000.
25:07That's not what we're talking about.
25:08So the fact that Statler says that she got stuck, oh, guys, sorry, this is spoiler information.
25:13So if you didn't know that, just be aware.
25:16This is something that Statler announced before.
25:18Oh, thanks, Molly.
25:21She said that she had to take out a personal loan to purchase this van and Dempsey helped
25:26zero with it.
25:28And it's interesting.
25:29It doesn't make any sense because I feel like Dempsey's going to have way more money selling
25:33off all of her stuff.
25:35That's what I said.
25:36Yeah.
25:37So if Dempsey sold her house and her car and everything but her clothes, the van wouldn't
25:41have even been 25% of what she would have made off of that.
25:45A lot of it's not.
25:46The math doesn't math yet because, you know, we're watching it in Rewind.
25:50So we don't have the full picture yet.
25:52But it's just really interesting because watching how Statler was really not excited about moving
26:00on to the road, living in the van, doing all this stuff, and Dempsey was really excited.
26:03It did look like, for a while, Dempsey was using Statler to get this dream into reality.
26:10She always wanted to do this.
26:12She always wanted to travel the world.
26:13She wanted to do it in a van.
26:15And I feel like Statler might be her vessel to make it happen.
26:20You know, I'm getting early vibes.
26:22It's hard because that seed has been planted in the back of my mind.
26:25I need to see the bad in Dempsey now because that's what Statler has planted.
26:29And so I'm looking for the bad.
26:31Even the last season I saw, I didn't find much.
26:33I'm looking for it now.
26:35You know, this season, it's all going to come out because we already know they're no longer
26:40together.
26:41So yeah.
26:42Oh, yeah.
26:43Not together.
26:44They hate each other.
26:45But also, exactly.
26:46The only thing that's going to stick with me forever that I can't undo or unsee is that
26:50Statler pees in her bath.
26:53So yeah.
26:54That's disgusting.
26:55That is disgusting.
26:56I'm not surprised because she's weird and gross.
27:01And I know that she has autism and ADHD and I'm not referring to those when I say weird
27:07and gross.
27:08I mean like her personality.
27:09Yeah.
27:10Like the things that she does and says like just erratic, strange, nothing to do with
27:13her disabilities.
27:15It's just when you're in the tub, like, it's not, see, I don't even pee in the shower.
27:21Because I feel like the whole purpose of getting in the tub or the shower is to be clean.
27:25So if you pee in the water, and then you get out, are you clean?
27:30I have so many questions.
27:33But she always, every time we see her, she says something weird.
27:36And I think that's like her thing.
27:38I think it's like her niche.
27:40You know, like she always says something weird or some weird habit or strange thing that
27:44she does.
27:45And it's kind of like her defense mechanism.
27:47I remember the first season we met her.
27:49Every time they had a tough conversation, she'd say something really out of the place
27:52about her sex life.
27:53Yeah.
27:54I had sex in a church.
27:55And she always just deflect.
27:58And I'm just wondering, is that like a defense mechanism for her?
28:01Because she always says that she's not a people person.
28:05She prefers to be alone.
28:07She's not social.
28:08So I was like, I wonder if she's just acting weird, and she's actually normal.
28:11Right?
28:12Like, that crossed my mind, too.
28:14What she did say, she did say, on the last season, that when she gets nervous, she acts
28:22weird, because she don't like being around people.
28:26She prefers to be out in the woods with like around animals and insects, that people make
28:32her nervous.
28:34People talk, people talk back, you know, and people, you know, I totally understand that
28:38animals are like the most perfect beings, because they show you love, they basically,
28:45if they're upset with you, you know, if they're happy with you, you know, they're just honest
28:49beings, right?
28:50Like animals are just the most honest beings.
28:52So when I totally understand people can get to you, because figuring out a person and
28:55how they feel can be the most exhausting thing in the world.
28:59Because people will not just come up, we can communicate, but people will not come out
29:02and tell you how they feel.
29:03You have to try to figure it out.
29:05So I totally get it.
29:07I don't care how well you communicate with animals, I don't care how well you survive
29:10on your own.
29:12You can say weird shit, like, I like the way onions smell.
29:17You don't say shit like, I pee in the bathtub.
29:22I had sex in a church.
29:24It's just not what you say to get attention.
29:26It's not.
29:27And then wonder why people even wonder why people think you're so strange.
29:34And you know, like, he's like, Oh, people think I'm weird.
29:36I'm like, no, people think you're weird, because you give them that vibe.
29:41You give them every opportunity to call you weird.
29:44Oh, so James and I think her name is Natalia.
29:48I think I called her Natalia last year.
29:50Of course, it can't be that easy.
29:52It's Natalia with an M, right?
29:54So I noticed that on the screen tonight.
29:56So she's heading back to Indonesia.
29:59And we got a little more insight.
30:00I don't know.
30:01I get this weird feeling that James has no real, like, want to go to Indonesia.
30:05Like I'm feeling like he's shipping her off and he's like, rethinking his life choices.
30:09But she's going back and we found out that her parents own a banana chip factory last
30:15week.
30:16And they're not going to pay him, her husband James to work for them.
30:20They're going to use him as a sales contractor, and he's going to purchase chips from her
30:25dad.
30:26And then they're going to like sell chips door to door.
30:29I mean, I don't know, not necessarily door to door, maybe like have like a kiosk, like
30:33a hot dog stand.
30:34I don't know.
30:35He's going to be in a different city.
30:36Yes.
30:37So they're like going to be traveling banana chip salesmen, or whatever.
30:42And I don't know, like, I'm not trying to say that any country has better opportunities
30:46than any other because I have never been to Indonesia in my life.
30:50It doesn't sound like they're going to have the life that they want, selling banana chips
30:56like a carnival.
30:57I don't know, it makes the American dream sound a lot more appealing.
31:00Well, let's be real, James is leaving a family business where he's paid a fair wage because
31:08they own the business, right?
31:09And it's a family business who he's just leaving high and dry.
31:13He's leaving in a week.
31:14That's not even a normal notice.
31:17Normally you would get two weeks notice.
31:19This isn't the first time he's left them, it's a pattern of screwing his family over,
31:26right?
31:27Because we found out in this episode that he left them when she got here and they got
31:30married within a couple of months.
31:32She hated the cold, totally get it.
31:34And she wanted them to move to Florida.
31:36And she was like, I'm moving to Florida with or without you.
31:37So he moves to Florida, screws them over then, doesn't tell them.
31:41And he's like, really scared to tell anyone anything.
31:44They wait till the last possible second to release information, I guess, basing on how
31:50angry the person could be.
31:51Because the earlier you tell them, the more time they have to be pissed at you.
31:56So he told his little brother a week or so, maybe less than a week, that when he was supposed
32:02to leave to go to Indonesia, and then he's going to tell his parents even later.
32:05And even the brother's like, so you're quitting your job, you're screwing us over once again.
32:11And it seems like a pattern.
32:13I was always taught as a kid, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
32:15And his family is literally the hand that feeds you.
32:18They're paying him to work for a business.
32:21You know he's making good money because family's going to take care of each other.
32:24It's not like he's working for FedEx, you know, and he's making a basic hourly wage.
32:30He's making a living.
32:32And he's giving it all up for, I don't really feel like they have a plan at all.
32:36Do you feel like the plan that they have makes any sense?
32:39She wants to go back because of the medical, she feels that the medical services in Indonesia
32:45are better, which I think, I don't know that, I've never been to Indonesia, but I feel like
32:51every country has amazing people in medicine, right?
32:54Like I feel like wherever you are, just like every country has amazing scientists, and
32:59people who can figure, every country has their good points and good people and strong knowledge.
33:05So I think that she wants to go back home, which is fine.
33:08I get it, moving to another country is a lot when you don't know anyone except the
33:12person you're married to.
33:13But I just don't see why he is agreeing with it and gonna pack up and go, it makes no sense.
33:20I feel like their relationship should just end and she should go back and he should stay
33:24where he is.
33:25Like is that the vibes you're getting?
33:27But my million dollar question about this couple is why are they on the show?
33:31They're already freaking married.
33:33This is 90 Day Fiancé, the other way.
33:37We watched to see them get married, blah, blah, blah.
33:40They're already freaking married.
33:41Why are they on the show?
33:42Yeah, you're right.
33:43Not only married, but they've known each other five years and been married two and a half.
33:47And they've already lived in two different states.
33:50They actually lived in Maine and Florida.
33:53And now this is the third place they're going to be living together in Indonesia.
33:57Yeah, you're right.
33:58That's interesting.
33:59Every time we watch a couple on this show, it's the beginning of the relationship, not
34:04two and a half years in.
34:05Or supposedly the beginning.
34:08They're not the only couple that's done this.
34:10There's been other couples that's been together for a very long time and married.
34:15Well, Jenny and Samit have been dating for a really long time before they came on the
34:21show, but they weren't married yet.
34:24They weren't married, but they were dating.
34:25Jonah and What's-His-Face was married before they even come on the show.
34:31Yeah, they were married.
34:33And then there was another couple, I can't remember the name of them, let my brain think.
34:37But there was another couple that was married and they lied to get on the show as well.
34:42I can't remember.
34:43Let me think.
34:44We have two married couples on this season.
34:48Who's the other married couple?
34:50Let me look at last week.
34:53Oh, you know what?
34:56You're right.
34:57The guy who's moving to China.
34:59Isn't he married to that woman?
35:01The woman who has the elevator in her house?
35:02Yeah, you're right.
35:03He's married to her.
35:04Josh and Lily.
35:05Yeah, you're right.
35:06They are married already.
35:08So I guess, see, but again, we've been talking about this before, how they've been kind of
35:12loosening up the requirements and rules for the shows lately.
35:16And they started it, the damn single life, when we started getting two Americans dating
35:23each other on the single life and the rules and regulations started to just dwindle away
35:28from there.
35:29They're like, oh, well, we can make an exception because this looks like a good story.
35:32We can make an exception because, you know, they're really drama and they bring a lot
35:36of entertainment.
35:37And they just now at this point, like you're saying, there's no really rules or regulations
35:42getting on the show.
35:43If you're married, cool.
35:44If you're not, cool.
35:45They promote spousal abuse.
35:46It's fine.
35:47Right?
35:48I mean, whatever brings them cash, right?
35:54That's what they're banking on.
35:55And also, the episode was an hour long.
35:58So does that mean, you know, we already talked about this last season, we're getting like
36:0330 episodes again.
36:04So help me God.
36:05I hope not.
36:06Oh my goodness.
36:07I hope not.
36:08I was really happy when the premiere was two hours because they've always been two hours.
36:14Correct me if I'm wrong.
36:15Guys, I've watched every show since the very first one, right?
36:18I remember when Rest in Power on the first season.
36:21I remember them always being two hours.
36:24Maybe I'm wrong.
36:25Maybe they started out as an hour.
36:26And then as the momentum.
36:27I always remember them being two hours.
36:29Me too.
36:30Right.
36:31But the last couple of spinoffs, they've done hours so that they could put 712 episodes
36:37and waste a year of our life on the same people.
36:40Well, they can put more ads in each show too.
36:44If you've got 30 episodes instead of 15, you know, you're paying, people are paying double
36:49for ads.
36:50So you're getting double the money for the exact same amount of work.
36:53Because I was like, when it went off, I was like, oh no, they're doing it again.
36:57They're screwing us over.
36:58So we're going to be watching this until Christmas.
37:00Because when that happened the last time, we watched that season for six and a half
37:05months.
37:06And it really blows your mind because it's like, holy crap, we've been watching these
37:10people for half a year, you know, like that would be as if Sarper and Shekinah went on
37:17it.
37:18They're so painful.
37:19Yeah.
37:20Not only that, but the couples, I mean, I know we're just on the second one, but there's
37:26no, it's not grabbing my attention at all.
37:31They're boring.
37:32Well,
37:33I think when we get to Lily and what's his face, the Play-Doh eating guy, it'll be good.
37:41Josh.
37:42Yeah.
37:43I think that's going to be interesting because he's not allowed to work.
37:47Like their visa requirements are really different in China.
37:50He's got to wait the full five years.
37:52There's no exceptions.
37:53Like, you know, when you get to America, depending on how fast you file your paperwork, you can
37:57apply for that work visa within my country.
38:00It's so crazy to me because literally there are so much shit made in China.
38:06It seems like they would take whoever would be willing to work, whether you're legal or
38:10not.
38:11They put kids in there for crying out loud.
38:12Okay.
38:13So here's my theory.
38:15Don't come for me.
38:17So I feel like in China, they don't pay a living wage.
38:21So I feel like if an American was to go to China, they were going to expect something
38:25more than what China's going to give.
38:28Because like you said, they have these factories where like 10 year olds are making pennies.
38:33So I feel like their wages are a lot lower and I guess there's no law that's regulating
38:39it.
38:40They can just do it.
38:41But if an American comes over there and gets a job, we're going to expect a living wage.
38:45We're going to expect benefits.
38:46We're going to expect all this.
38:48And I think that, I haven't heard a lot of Americans say that they went over to China
38:52just to work a normal job.
38:54Like that's where you go to start a company.
38:56You don't really go there to work like a nine to five job.
38:59That's not really how you're going to make money there.
39:01But I know for a fact, when you start a company over there, the laws are in your favor and
39:07you can pay really low wages and you can have a really high profit margin.
39:12So I feel like if you're going to do it, you need to go over there and start a business.
39:15That's the only way you're really going to make it.
39:17Yeah.
39:18I don't know.
39:19It just, it all seems so off the wall to me knowing, I don't know, that they're never
39:25going to make it.
39:26They're married, but they're not going to make it.
39:27Well, she's rich and she likes to put in his face how much everything costs.
39:32Because he was like, you don't have to always tell me how much things cost.
39:34And I was watching that scene and I was like, men are like that.
39:39Men like to throw things in women's faces.
39:41It's funny when men are subjected to the exact same behavior that they put women through,
39:46they don't like it.
39:47Because he's like, you don't have to tell me.
39:48I was like, but in normal relationships where the guy's paying and the guy's in charge of
39:52things, he always says like, oh, well, let's go eat at this place.
39:55It's expensive.
39:56Or you want this purse, it's expensive.
39:57They always say prices.
39:58So I was like, it's funny to watch him react to her doing what usually men are doing to
40:04women.
40:05And, you know, it's not fun.
40:07It's not to always be made to feel like you're a burden.
40:10It's not fun.
40:11It's not how you want to be made to feel every day.
40:14Like, oh, this costed me this.
40:16Or you want to like Jasmine, like Gina's like, oh, you want to be in a pageant, that's going
40:19to cost me $2,000.
40:20Or you want to this, that's going to cost me $3,000.
40:23Women don't like to be made to feel like they're a burden to you, especially when you brought
40:27them here knowing that they couldn't pay for anything on their own.
40:30You know, like, I really think that that's an interesting table turn for him because
40:34now he's going to have to see what it's like to be, you know, the woman, you know, in the
40:39right shoes.
40:40He's got to deal with the fact that she's in charge of the money.
40:42And if he wants to go to the store and buy something, she's got to okay it, you know?
40:45Yeah.
40:46I don't know.
40:47We'll see if it gets more interesting, but so far, it's super blah.
40:52Yeah.
40:53We've only gotten three hours total and I felt like they could have, well, it was only
40:58an hour, but they only put three different couples in this episode.
41:01So I was like, I wanted more, but you have for an hour, you're only working with what
41:05you have.
41:06So and most of it was Sarpa and Sakina, which I was paying attention, but they get underneath
41:12my skin.
41:13Because it's like watching like two seventh graders dating, who ironically are in their
41:1940s, who have one between the two of them each have a child, but they behave like children
41:26and like bringing her little love note and like, I'm going to make him jealous.
41:31And I'm like, that's not how adults handle problems.
41:34You don't like, if you're having an issue with your spouse, you don't invite over your
41:39pretty friend or your good looking guy friend to make him jealous.
41:42That's not how adults do things.
41:44That's how children like, if you're middle school and the person you like, doesn't like
41:48you back, then you go and talk to their friend.
41:50That's what a middle school person would do.
41:52That's how you get someone's attention.
41:54You should be acting like an adult.
41:56Yeah, it's gonna be a shit show.
42:00That's fine.
42:01I'm here for it.
42:02Oh, yeah.
42:03I'm totally, I'm totally here for it.
42:04I love a shit show.
42:05I love craziness.
42:06And next week, the finale of MILF Manor, so it's gonna be over after Sunday.
42:14And this season, it was good, right?
42:17Like I feel like it was good.
42:18The Barbie and Kelly fight was, I ranked it a little higher than the, who was fighting,
42:26Rebecca and Kelly, like I ranked a little higher.
42:30Because Barbie really got in there and started screaming and calling her out her name.
42:33And, you know, I like Kelly a lot, but I do think that Kelly is a mean girl.
42:38You know, I feel like she definitely, but I felt like, from being honest, Barbie and
42:44Kelly are both are clout chasers.
42:47And they both like to be the center of attention.
42:49And it was kind of funny watching them like, try to determine who was the fakest of the
42:54two.
42:55Yeah.
42:57Who's that lady in the mirror where she's like the wicked witch?
43:00And then I'm like, they're fighting over who's the wickeder of the witches.
43:03And I'm like, you're both evil witches.
43:05You're like, you're both, you're both like that.
43:07Because when Kelly came in the house, Barbie started talking shit about her right away.
43:12And it's like, it's weird, because I said something on Xabit, and I was like, it's weird
43:16how Barbie says that she's all about women empowerment and not judging women, and women
43:19can be strippers.
43:20And then the second a pretty woman comes in the house, she's like, I don't like that.
43:24And then he goes around and says all the other ladies, oh, well, on season one, she was,
43:30you know, the one that caused all the problems and all this other stuff.
43:33So yeah.
43:34Yeah.
43:35It's just interesting.
43:36And it's funny, because she replied to that and she was like, you've read me all wrong.
43:40And I was like, I don't think I have.
43:42But thanks.
43:43You know, I don't think I can totally see that you're a hypocrite.
43:46Most people are.
43:47You know, I'm a hypocrite.
43:48We're all hypocrites to some extent, right?
43:50So I totally see that.
43:52But I feel like in my mind, they're so much alike.
43:56That's why they hate each other.
43:58Right?
43:59Like, I feel like Barbie and Kelly are basically the same person in different bodies.
44:03And I think it irritates them because of that, you know, because they can see each other
44:07in each other, but they also hate what they see.
44:10So it's like, it's an internal thing.
44:12Yeah, I don't know.
44:14It's awful.
44:15I know that.
44:16Oh, so Gina says Barbie's the only one that knew about season one.
44:21Yeah, seems like she's the only one that watched.
44:22Barbie's the only one that brought up season one.
44:25Oh, it could have been possible they asked them not to bring it up.
44:30And Barbie just didn't care.
44:31And she did what she wanted to do.
44:32Because it could be possible.
44:33Because I'm pretty sure everybody watched the show, right?
44:36Like if you're going to be on-
44:37Barbie brought it up and then Barbie left like an hour later, so.
44:40Yeah, I think that they asked her to keep it, keep it classy about season one.
44:45And because even Kelly, Kelly came in and she didn't really have a lot to say about
44:49season one, which was really interesting.
44:50And a lot of the women didn't know her, because they were like, who are you?
44:54And they're like, oh, she's from season one.
44:55Some of the women acted like they had never seen her before.
44:58Which is BS, but it's fine.
45:00So okay, what time is it?
45:03Oh, we actually have time left today.
45:04Yesterday, we were going to-
45:05Look at us.
45:06Yeah, look at us.
45:07We're doing good.
45:08Well, we didn't have a lot to work with because there were only three people on this episode
45:14and Sharper and Sakaina were two of them.
45:18Yeah.
45:19It didn't give me a lot to work with, but James and Natalia are my favorites so far.
45:27I just feel like they give me a lot of Julia and Brandon vibes, but also Brandon and-
45:33He looks like if Brandon and Statler had a baby.
45:37Yeah, I get that.
45:39I totally get that.
45:40I was really shocked at how much he looked so much like Brandon, though.
45:45It was just really weird to me.
45:47I'm interested in that.
45:48He doesn't want to have kids, which I'm totally fine with.
45:50I respect people that don't want to have kids.
45:53Because actually, I was on Instagram or TikTok the other day, and there was some weird lady
45:57at a casino who left her kid in the car for five hours while she was gambling.
46:01Pissed me the hell off.
46:02But I was like, you know what?
46:03It makes me respect people who are mature enough and smart enough to know, hey, a child
46:08would take up way too much of my time.
46:10I would rather not do that.
46:11I respect them so much because that's such a selfless, mature thing to do.
46:17So when James was like, I don't really want to have kids, I was like, see, I respect that
46:20because kids are a lifelong commitment.
46:22If you're not ready to commit to that, it's the most selfless, loving thing that you can
46:27do for that child.
46:28Right?
46:29I agree.
46:30Wait, I disagree with you on that.
46:34I don't like John.
46:35Who is John?
46:36I don't know who John is.
46:37I know you don't mean Boston, John.
46:38Oh, James.
46:39Because I was like, we all like Boston.
46:40I like him.
46:41I like him.
46:42I like him.
46:43So far.
46:46I said it last week.
46:47So far.
46:48I don't want either one of them.
46:49So I'm not I'm not fond of either one of them.
46:53This episode, she came across as a bitch, but I still like him this far.
46:58Aside from the fact that he's not giving notice.
47:00I still like him this far.
47:02Yeah.
47:03From what we saw, it was good.
47:05All right, guys.
47:06So we're going to wrap up.
47:07We have time to spare.
47:08I'm proud of us.
47:09Yeah.
47:11So we're going to come back next week on Sunday, and we're going to talk about the happily
47:18ever after.
47:19Two more episodes.
47:20So next week, then the week after.
47:21And then I'll get with you on times for everything else.
47:25I'm going to be in LA for a while.
47:28So I'm going to get back to you on those times.
47:30I'll probably be able to do it.
47:31Just I have to discover the schedule and Wi-Fi is important, too.
47:37So I'll get with you guys on that.
47:38But Sunday, we'll be here at the normal date and time.
47:41So we'll talk about happily ever after.
47:42Oh, and I did find out for Park Tell All.
47:45Oh, man.
47:46Two episodes of The House, two episodes of the full happily ever after Tell All.
47:51So we're looking at a month of Tell All for happily ever after.
47:55And then from what I was told, we're going straight into B90, before the 90 days.
48:04Then before the 90 days, it's over the last resort.
48:08So it's basically one after the other.
48:10We're not getting a break in between.
48:12And because we know right now we have two shows on at once.
48:14So then we're going into before the 90 days.
48:17And then right after before the 90 days, we're going straight into the last resort.
48:22And then I believe right after the last resort is over, it's the OG 90 day fiance.
48:25So we're doing year round.
48:26Single life is coming up, too.
48:27Which one?
48:28Oh, yeah.
48:29The single life.
48:30The single life.
48:31Yeah.
48:32They're filming now.
48:33You're right.
48:34They're filming now.
48:35I don't know.
48:36I know the last time that they filmed, it took a year to come back.
48:39But the rumor meal is Gino and Jasmine are filming separately.
48:44So we're going to see how-
48:46Another rumor, too, that Big Ed's coming back.
48:49That's what I heard.
48:50I haven't heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
48:54He's an asset and he's also still under contract with Sharp.
48:57So it would make a lot of sense.
49:00You know, if they own you, they're going to make money off of you.
49:03So it would make a lot of sense because he just, whenever they're under contract for
49:08two years after that.
49:09So why would you get rid of something?
49:11It's like a cash cow, right?
49:12Why would you get rid of a cash cow?
49:14Or just a cow.
49:17Yeah, or just a cow.
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49:30Thank you so much for joining us, everybody.
49:31Have a wonderful night and we'll talk to all of you really soon.
49:34See you later.
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