Reserved Seats Case - Is verdict going to be favor of PTI? - Court Reports Breaks Big News
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00:00So tell me, where is this NH40, NH47 going?
00:05This is a matter of the three seats of the tribunal in Islamabad.
00:07In the three sessions of the tribunal, one is that they are not bringing in 45 farms,
00:11the MNAs of Muslim League Noon, Tariq Fazal Chaudhry and Raja Khurram Nawaz,
00:15which has been agreed upon, and the last one...
00:17They are also asking for Bayan-e-Halfi.
00:18They are asking for Bayan-e-Halfi, they are saying that Bayan-e-Halfi should be brought in.
00:20And then an army case is being made after that.
00:22Yes, an army case is being made.
00:23How long do you think this case can go on?
00:25How many hearings are left?
00:27They have said that the case will be a day-to-day hearing.
00:29If you take an adjournment, then there will be a fine.
00:31And there won't be much of an adjournment.
00:33And if you try to linger on this,
00:35and there is no compliance with the judicial orders,
00:38then under the Election Act,
00:40we can terminate your National Assembly session.
00:44This is very important.
00:45The last chance has been given to bring in 45 farms,
00:47and the next step, they have said...
00:49But they won't be harmed by terminating it.
00:51No, they won't be harmed, but ultimately...
00:53They are praying that this reference will go to the Supreme Judicial Council,
00:57or the law that has been made...
00:59The law has been made, and tomorrow...
01:01...to appoint retired judges,
01:02that the Election Commission will take a deep breath one day,
01:07and say that instead of Mr. Jhangiri, we are appointing retired judges.
01:10No, they have been told...
01:11One more thing.
01:12They have changed Mr. Jhangiri.
01:13That is the challenge.
01:14Tomorrow, Chief Justice Aamir Farooq will address that.
01:16In that, he said that you have to give reasoning.
01:18I mean, a High Court judge is a tribunal.
01:20You can change him without any reason.
01:22This is not the reason.
01:23This is not the reason.
01:24There is no reason.
01:25Why do you ask for 145?
01:26This is the reason.
01:27What is a bigger reason than this?
01:28This is the reason.
01:29But tomorrow, there is a hearing.
01:31It is a very important hearing.
01:32We have to see whether the High Court keeps the order of the Election Commission,
01:36or gives it as a Kaladam.
01:37High Court.
01:38High Court.
01:39And you...
01:40Because in the previous proceedings of the High Court,
01:43they said that it is an insult to the judge
01:45if you remove him without giving a reason.
01:48And I don't see a reason.
01:50Yes, yes.
01:51So what will be the decision?
01:52Let's see what will be the decision tomorrow.
01:53No, no.
01:54There will be arguments tomorrow.
01:55After that, the decision will be made.
01:56But along with this, the legislation that the government has implemented,
01:58which has been amended in the Election Act,
02:00the retired judge, the tribunal change,
02:02and the divorce from the past,
02:03these three things are very important.
02:05Now, it could not be implemented here,
02:07but there are eight tribunals in Punjab today.
02:09I think it will be implemented there,
02:11that a retired judge should be appointed.
02:12The PDM government...
02:13Punjab could not be appointed, right?
02:14When the PDM government was going to the elections,
02:17they made a rule that only the sitting judge would be appointed.
02:20But when they came back from the elections,
02:21they said no, a retired judge should be appointed.
02:22At that time, they thought,
02:23maybe we are not doing the right thing.
02:24When they found out,
02:25they said, no, we are being harmed.
02:26Change the law.
02:27Mr. Rania, I will come to this.
02:28Tomorrow, the most important case
02:30that will affect the political landscape
02:33and the judicial landscape
02:34is the special sitting judge.
02:36It will also affect their politics.
02:37To a great extent.
02:38If the government gets two thirds of the population,
02:41then a lot can happen.
02:43The PDM government does not benefit from these seats.
02:45If their seats are 70, it will be 90.
02:47If it is not 90, it will be 100.
02:48It will be 150.
02:49Justice has no benefit from this.
02:50But what does the government think?
02:52What does the bench think?
02:53It seems that the majority of the judges
02:56agree on the fact that
02:58the 78 seats given to the People's Party
03:01and the Non-League are not valid.
03:04But this is not the case for the PTI.
03:06This is not the case for the PTI.
03:08We have to see what the majority of the judges think.
03:11Because one thing is unanimous in the Supreme Court,
03:14that the Election Commission did not interpret
03:16the Supreme Court's order correctly.
03:18So will it go further in your view?
03:20Please clarify this.
03:22The Supreme Court says that
03:24the original sin is the interpretation
03:28and decision of the Election Commission of Pakistan
03:30in which they said that all of you are free.
03:32Yes, yes.
03:33However, there are at least 11 people
03:35who have admitted to six people.
03:39If even one is admitted,
03:41then it means that it was a parliamentary party.
03:44So will the judges go to the point
03:45that it is a parliamentary party or not?
03:47We have to see how many judges will go.
03:49It is obvious that they are talking about
03:51the use of 187 and 184.
03:55How many judges will be there?
03:57If 7 out of 13 judges go,
03:59then the PTI will be decided.
04:01What split do you see?
04:03Without giving the names of the judges,
04:05please tell us how many people
04:07do you think are leaning towards
04:09the government and special seats
04:11and how many people are
04:13leaning towards complete justice?
04:155 judges are leaning towards
04:17the PTI and special seats.
04:19Now, there are some judges
04:21who are very clear
04:23that the tax of the Constitution
04:25is very clear.
04:27We don't take the names of the judges
04:29who are focusing on the tax.
04:31In this court, it is either the tax
04:33or the focus on the tax.
04:35There are 3-4 judges who are swing judges.
04:37They will do the matter.
04:39If even two of them go to one side,
04:41then the majority will be decided.
04:43Now, let's see
04:45who these 4 judges are convinced by.