Izzy's Sunday Show!

Stefan Molyneux

Sunday Morning Live 7 July 2024  I update everyone on my health, share about a minor ailment called tiny hands, and discuss music genres, generational views, and marriage trends. We talk about job chaos, Dungeons & Dragons, animation, frame rates in videos, parenting styles, iPhone vs Android, friendships, duck naming, social dynamics, and regrets. Reflecting on relationships and societal dynamics, I emphasize meaningful conversations and addressing uncomfortable truths for growth. Lastly, Stefan touches on moral progress, accepting peaceful parenting, societal challenges, tattoos, peer pressure, and successful marriages, ending with gratitude to our listeners.  Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!  NOW AVAILABLE FOR SUBSCRIBERS: MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING' - AND THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI AND AUDIOBOOK!  Also get the Truth About the French Revolution, the interactive multi-lingual philosophy AI trained on thousands of hours of my material, private livestreams, premium call in shows, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!  See you soon!  https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2022

Transcript

00:00:00Good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well. It's the 7th of July, 2024, and just because I

00:00:07know everybody's very interested in my health, I have a minor ailment that is a challenge,

00:00:13but exciting. The minor ailment is called tiny hands. Yes, tiny hands, and they're also tiny and

00:00:20disembodied, which means they come from everywhere, from every direction, and they're small. They grow

00:00:27out of my youth. So, yes, it's a challenge, and people saying, hello, Izzy. Hello.

00:00:35I'm here.

00:00:36All right. So, Izzy, we have some questions to ask Izzy on the live stream. You're welcome to

00:00:42put your own ones in. And also, we just wanted to mention that Izzy has herself joined the ranks of

00:00:49the exploited.

00:00:51I am a strong, independent, working woman.

00:00:55She has her first job.

00:00:57Yes, I got a job.

00:00:58Now, primarily beforehand, her job has been managing her father's emotions.

00:01:05Yes.

00:01:05That's more of a career.

00:01:06But that was like, you know, I need a break sometimes.

00:01:08Yeah, yeah. I mean, really, that was more of a calling or career, or really something that's

00:01:12cornered.

00:01:13Yeah.

00:01:13Like, to manage my moods has been—

00:01:15Like those Chinese workers, you know?

00:01:17Well, yeah, for sure, for sure. So, we wanted to give her a job outside managing customers.

00:01:25Now, is it easier to manage, say, 20 customers lined up or father's moodiness?

00:01:32I mean, honestly, it's a real—this is a hard question.

00:01:36Yes, it is. Don't make me moody. Sorry?

00:01:38Nothing.

00:01:40Sorry. I thought I heard customers there, but I wasn't sure.

00:01:42You might have.

00:01:43All right. So, Izzy is going to work later today, and then she said,

00:01:50before I go to work—

00:01:51I have, like, nothing to do, and I need to do—you know, live streams are fun.

00:01:54Live streams are fun. They are.

00:01:55Doing nothing.

00:01:56They are. All right. So, we, of course, are happy to take questions from y'all.

00:02:06And we have some—

00:02:09Let there be sound at comments.

00:02:11Let there be sound.

00:02:13So, yes, we are happy to take questions. We are also happy to answer the ones here. So,

00:02:21what music, other than your father's prog-rock 80s inflictions, what music do young people

00:02:29listen to? Now, you have a whole cliché.

00:02:31I'm not talking about my music taste. Thanks. But other young people—

00:02:36Young people.

00:02:37Yes.

00:02:37Plural.

00:02:38Not me. No, people is singular. I'm kidding.

00:02:40Ah, don't homeschool fail.

00:02:42Don't homeschool fail.

00:02:46A lot of young people—I mean, the girls, like, gold prospecting, I wish.

00:02:52No, we tried gold prospecting, but the security guards caught us. You can do that at a mall,

00:02:56actually. It's just not legal.

00:02:57Right.

00:02:57Yeah, yeah. And I'm too old to run. So, go on.

00:03:03Oh, where were we at the other day? So, we got a bunch of teenagers

00:03:07playing Manhunt, and you're like, dad, join in. And I'm like, ugh.

00:03:11Well, other dads are doing it.

00:03:13Yes, and how much—they're 20 years younger.

00:03:15Okay, well, I mean, it's not that much. I mean, just—

00:03:17Right.

00:03:18I mean, just, like, you know—

00:03:19What music do young people listen to? I'm sorry, I tangent.

00:03:22The women listen to a lot of, like, soft pop is usually what I call it. Like,

00:03:27that kind of soft, like, mumbly singing. There's some songs from that genre I like,

00:03:31but, I mean, obviously, a ton of Taylor Swift. I mean, like, it's actually—

00:03:34It's a lot of acoustic, jazzy—

00:03:35I think it's mental illness.

00:03:37Oh, the Taylor Swift stuff?

00:03:38Everyone does it. There's no way everybody likes her music. I mean, like,

00:03:42some of her older songs, I think, are fine, but, like—

00:03:44Sorry, we just—we can't talk about Taylor Swift, because the last time I talked about

00:03:49Taylor Swift and her eggs, everybody lost their minds. I'm kidding, go on.

00:03:53I'm talking about the eggs, so I'm just saying her music is not that good. It's good,

00:03:58but it's not that good to the point where every single female I know loves her songs.

00:04:03Well, it's funny, because we watched—we heard about one of her movie songs.

00:04:07Hypnosis.

00:04:09Something in the water. Because we heard about one of her songs,

00:04:11and I haven't heard a Taylor Swift song. I liked her album, which had the girl going crazy.

00:04:18So that was the album that had—

00:04:19I haven't listened to any of her songs in, like, 10 years.

00:04:20No, no, I know. We used to listen to them a while ago, and there was a couple of her

00:04:25songs I thought—Shake It Up, was it Shake It Up, or Shake It Off, Shake It Off, something

00:04:30like that. Someone did it. And there was another song—anyway, it doesn't matter.

00:04:38That is not a Taylor Swift song.

00:04:39That is! It is!

00:04:40That is not a Taylor Swift song.

00:04:44No, it is!

00:04:45It's, like, 80s jazz.

00:04:46It is!

00:04:47She's not jazz. She's country.

00:04:48She's not jazz. That's right.

00:04:51Boys only want love when it's torture.

00:04:54I'm sorry, and I'm—

00:04:55That is not—

00:04:57It is! It is!

00:05:00What are you on about?

00:05:01It is. All right. It just may not be recognizable because I'm singing it.

00:05:05No, that's not it.

00:05:06It's, boys only want love if it's torture.

00:05:10It's not—

00:05:13Okay, that part is different.

00:05:14That's not different!

00:05:16Sorry?

00:05:16Nothing.

00:05:16No, please do that again.

00:05:18Okay, my voice is cracking because I have not gotten over that.

00:05:20Right.

00:05:21That's the theme song for Mario!

00:05:23I will find you. I will find you!

00:05:26Look it up!

00:05:27I will find you.

00:05:29Okay, what's the name of that song?

00:05:32No, no, I'm finding the words. I'm finding the—

00:05:35Okay, we're going on a musical journey now.

00:05:39All right, hang on.

00:05:40Boys only want love if it's torture.

00:05:44And by the way, that is a terrible message.

00:05:47Okay, blank.

00:05:50I've got to type past 19 cables here.

00:05:52Blank space. Lyrics.

00:05:54All right, that's it.

00:05:55Everyone's hearing my Taylor Swift.

00:05:57I have had questions.

00:05:59And they actually will hire me to never ever do it again, right?

00:06:05All right, come on.

00:06:06Give me the lyrics.

00:06:07The internet is hesitating.

00:06:11Why do I still know this?

00:06:12I haven't heard it in ages.

00:06:14I could show you incredible thing.

00:06:16Magic, madness, heaven, sin.

00:06:18Saw you there and I thought, oh my god, look at that face.

00:06:21You look like my next mistake.

00:06:24Loves the game, want to play.

00:06:25Like that, right?

00:06:27New money, suit and tie.

00:06:29I can read you like a magazine.

00:06:31Ain't it funny? Rumors fly.

00:06:32And I know you heard about me.

00:06:34Anyway, so that's the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

00:06:39That's the song.

00:06:40It's just, it's just, I turned it into something that would make mall music.

00:06:44That sounded, no, that sounded like, that sounded like 80s jazz.

00:06:47Yeah, I'm sorry that it's tough for you to differentiate the abstracted notes.

00:06:51What?

00:06:53Mario theme song, but there's no lyrics to it.

00:06:57Oh god.

00:06:58Don't play copyrighted music on my live stream.

00:07:02All right.

00:07:03The main theme.

00:07:06Yeah, it kind of is.

00:07:07Oh, really?

00:07:08Yeah, it kind of is.

00:07:10Yeah.

00:07:11Anyway, I thought that album was good.

00:07:12But do you remember when you and I looked up, I don't remember the name of the song.

00:07:16We saw some meme of these girls weeping and wailing and screaming at a concert.

00:07:20And then we looked up the song.

00:07:22And remember, it's just, it's an overhead shot of a guy walking down a snowy path with

00:07:26forest on either side.

00:07:27Who gives a crap about the music video?

00:07:28What matters is the song.

00:07:29No, no, I'm just telling you that I don't remember the name of the song.

00:07:32But you remember that, right?

00:07:33Yeah.

00:07:33And I thought that was one of the most bland songs I've ever heard.

00:07:36And the male singer was so bad.

00:07:37Yeah, it was not, I was not, it was, I was not a massive fan.

00:07:41Not a massive fan.

00:07:41All right.

00:07:42Now, regarding the young gentleman of your acquaintance.

00:07:47A lot of metal, rock.

00:07:49What are the band names?

00:07:50There's three.

00:07:51Isn't that three?

00:07:52Come on.

00:07:53Three band names that everyone's into or two band names.

00:07:55You were saying everyone has to be into and you gave the name of the band.

00:07:58Oh, no, no.

00:07:58Okay.

00:07:59So the popular guys, 21 Pilots is the big one.

00:08:04I'm going to just say 21 Pilots because all the other guys that sound like 21 Pilots and

00:08:08all the other male singers are basically 21 Pilots.

00:08:10Okay.

00:08:10All right.

00:08:1021 Pilots.

00:08:11All the popular guys love it.

00:08:13And I think there's just something about 21 Pilots for guys and Taylor Swift for girls,

00:08:17where it's some sort of like, ACDC, I'd say the people who actually follow their music

00:08:22taste like ACDC, but a lot of people who just are like, I'm going to be popular, like popular

00:08:28music.

00:08:28And I don't think, I mean, maybe it's just them and that's just their personality, or

00:08:31maybe they're trying to force it.

00:08:32I don't know.

00:08:33But.

00:08:34Well, you were saying, and you have a theory based on Spotify, right?

00:08:39Well, this is, this is Sabrina Carpenter's theory.

00:08:41This is a theory about her.

00:08:43So I've seen a lot of people posting that they will search up any random music genre

00:08:47and Spotify is supposed to give you an autoplay feature.

00:08:50Right.

00:08:51And the autoplay is like, it shows you, you know, if you look up like 80s rock, it's going

00:08:57to give you other popular 80s rock songs.

00:08:59Or if you look up a more obscure one, it'll give you obscure ones.

00:09:01Right.

00:09:02That's kind of how the system's supposed to work.

00:09:03And that's not just Spotify.

00:09:04That's like old music.

00:09:05So do you think that there's a promotion that goes on?

00:09:07There's something going on with Sabrina Carpenter's two new songs, because I've never heard anyone

00:09:11listen to these because they're pretty bad.

00:09:13Yeah.

00:09:14But she's like, they'll look up, I don't know, metal or something.

00:09:18She's like the second song on autoplay.

00:09:20So that's why people are listening to her because it just shows up.

00:09:23And Spotify has a system like you can't skip songs unless you're premium.

00:09:26So some people just can't skip it.

00:09:27Right.

00:09:28And then sometimes even a song that isn't that great will sort of wear its grooves in

00:09:31your brain.

00:09:32If you hear it enough, you're going to end up thinking of it.

00:09:34Sabrina Carpenter to me is a modern biblical tale of brain deadening tragedy.

00:09:40Because I thought Thumbs was a clever song.

00:09:42I liked Look at Me.

00:09:44I mean, it wasn't that clever, but I thought the tune was fun.

00:09:46Yeah.

00:09:47And so, but Thumbs had this whole thing about the bank robs the people, so the people rob

00:09:51the bank.

00:09:51Like, it was just clever and thoughtful.

00:09:54And she actually had her clothes on.

00:09:56Yeah, she did, right?

00:09:56No, she did.

00:09:57So that's a thing of the past.

00:09:59And I was like, wow, a girl who's not selling flesh, who's got clever music.

00:10:03And then tragically, I watched the movie for the video for Espresso.

00:10:08Is it Espresso?

00:10:10There's Espresso and Please, Please, Please are the two ones.

00:10:12Also, who names the song Please, Please, Please?

00:10:13That is like a tongue twister.

00:10:15Man, just name something else.

00:10:16Right.

00:10:16Go on.

00:10:17You might as well name your song Lori, Lori, Red Lori, Yellow Lori, Red Lori, Yellow Lori.

00:10:21So there was a, actually, there was a comedy some years ago on TV where they had the worst

00:10:27movie title was called The Rural Juror.

00:10:29Oh, my God.

00:10:30Why would you do that?

00:10:31Very funny.

00:10:32You have Bioshock.

00:10:33Sorry, I forgot about that.

00:10:34So Sabrina Carpenter went from like clever clothes on to like, retarded bikini on the

00:10:40beach.

00:10:40Trying to like, mimic Taylor Swift.

00:10:43That's what they're all doing.

00:10:44I guess.

00:10:44Yeah, I guess.

00:10:46I've always liked David Bowie.

00:10:47Yeah, Bowie's good.

00:10:48To me, Steph was sounding like Got To Be Real.

00:10:50Can you sing the tune of Got To Be Real?

00:10:51I'm sure you know that.

00:10:52I don't know that song.

00:10:53Oh, I believe in you.

00:10:54Have you guys heard of Dax?

00:10:56Yes, I think Dax is one of the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica.

00:10:59I don't think that's the slightest bit.

00:11:00And I can't imagine that the music is that great.

00:11:03It would probably be a bit mechanical.

00:11:04Maybe like electronic, hip hop or something.

00:11:07That's right.

00:11:08Robot death killing electronica.

00:11:10Maybe something like The Living Tombstone.

00:11:12That concert slayed.

00:11:14Oh my god.

00:11:15Anyway, I'm sure we'll do Battlestar Galactica jokes from here to eternity.

00:11:19ACDC.

00:11:20So ACDC would be 70s and 80s.

00:11:22And I think that'd probably be older.

00:11:23No, no, people listen to that.

00:11:25Yeah, yeah.

00:11:27That's like Please Please Me by The Beatles.

00:11:28Yeah, yeah.

00:11:29Bowie's good.

00:11:30Yeah, Bowie's good for sure.

00:11:31But weird, as all get up.

00:11:34And also, there was an...

00:11:36I think we mentioned this, but it's probably worth rementioning it just because

00:11:40it can hurt twice.

00:11:41That in your history class...

00:11:45In your history class, they talked about...

00:11:47Oh yeah, my favorite part.

00:11:48So I have like an online history thing.

00:11:52Don't get me started on that.

00:11:53But the one area that they were teaching was 80s.

00:11:58They had 80s in history.

00:11:59And you know why?

00:12:00Because it's like half a century ago.

00:12:02So...

00:12:03It's not half a century ago.

00:12:04It's 44 years.

00:12:06No, it's 44 years.

00:12:0880 to 2000 is 20...

00:12:10What?

00:12:12Oh, I was born quite a...

00:12:14I was 16 in 1980.

00:12:15And that's 40...

00:12:16Oh God, no, that's 44 years ago.

00:12:20Yeah.

00:12:22Every now and then...

00:12:23I remember when you first got better at me than me at Rocket League.

00:12:26I'm like, oh, that's right.

00:12:27She's here to replace me.

00:12:28That's right.

00:12:29Just as I was here to replace my mother.

00:12:31It's called an upgrade.

00:12:32All right.

00:12:34What are people...

00:12:34Are they yapping?

00:12:35They are yapping.

00:12:36Yapping.

00:12:36Okay, so yapping is...

00:12:37No, they're not yapping.

00:12:38They're talking about music.

00:12:39That's not yapping.

00:12:40All right.

00:12:41You guys should try Panteras.

00:12:44That's Pantera.

00:12:45What?

00:12:46Pantera.

00:12:46Oh, Pantera.

00:12:47Oh, where you get the sandwiches.

00:12:49What do they say about the 80s?

00:12:50I have no idea.

00:12:50I wasn't paying attention.

00:12:51Pantera Bread?

00:12:53Oh my God.

00:12:54Paramore?

00:12:55Is that a band?

00:12:55That's a music...

00:12:56That's a streaming service.

00:12:58Ah, okay.

00:12:59What do they say about the 80s?

00:13:00I don't know.

00:13:01Honestly, I wasn't paying attention,

00:13:02but it was probably woke crap.

00:13:03So...

00:13:04I mean, I paid attention for European history.

00:13:07And some Asian history.

00:13:07But the other stuff, I just...

00:13:09I don't know.

00:13:09They were talking about just stuff

00:13:11that I didn't think was accurate, so...

00:13:12Well, can you imagine, like,

00:13:14Australian Aboriginal history?

00:13:15It's like Groundhog Day from hell for 40,000 years.

00:13:18They said the great, like, I don't know,

00:13:20settlements of these people

00:13:22who are living in like dirt huts.

00:13:23Yeah, it's not too exciting.

00:13:25All right.

00:13:25So, young people.

00:13:28So it's kind of metal for the boys

00:13:32and kind of Taylor Swift for the girls?

00:13:34Yeah.

00:13:34Okay.

00:13:36And is there a lot of spread and variety

00:13:39or is it a lot of copy-paste in terms of tastes?

00:13:42Um, for the girls, it's pretty much all copy-paste.

00:13:45Right, right.

00:13:45If someone says, oh, I like this song,

00:13:47all the other girls be like,

00:13:47oh my gosh, I love that song!

00:13:50Right, right.

00:13:51Um...

00:13:53So, let's see.

00:13:58I think the guys all have,

00:13:59like, they have some similar music taste,

00:14:01but it does vary a lot.

00:14:02Yeah.

00:14:04There's always a bit of 80s.

00:14:05There's usually some metal.

00:14:07There's usually a lot of rock.

00:14:08Any of that Norwegian screaming death metal?

00:14:10Some of that, yeah.

00:14:12Not quite.

00:14:13It's a bit more like stuff.

00:14:14Sorry, I'm just going to delete this message.

00:14:15No, no.

00:14:16Yes, Google has a tune or tool.

00:14:18That's amazing because there's so many tunes

00:14:20that get stuck in my head

00:14:20and I don't know the actual names.

00:14:21I'm just, like, trying to, like,

00:14:23figure out, like, lyrics.

00:14:24Especially that one that goes,

00:14:26I'm kidding.

00:14:27I'm just kidding.

00:14:28No, the Mario theme is like,

00:14:34something like that.

00:14:34I don't know.

00:14:35A bit off, but...

00:14:35You have such a nice voice.

00:14:37So, Google has a tool where you can

00:14:38search a song with the melody.

00:14:39Izzy, that's your chance to prove objectively

00:14:41it was the Mario theme.

00:14:42So, this is what...

00:14:43Mario.

00:14:44This is what is called...

00:14:45This is what I called a betrayal of philosophy.

00:14:49By siding with...

00:14:49Can you point out the way you say it?

00:14:51Mario.

00:14:52Mario.

00:14:53Careful, I might.

00:14:54All right.

00:14:55No Gregorian chants.

00:14:56I actually have listened to Gregorian chants.

00:14:58I listen to some Gregorian chants

00:15:00while writing sometimes.

00:15:00Next time my friends ask me what music I like,

00:15:03I'm just gonna say Gregorian chants.

00:15:06Hindu death dirges.

00:15:07All right.

00:15:08That'd be a good name for a metal band.

00:15:09No, it would not.

00:15:11Okay.

00:15:12How do you think your generation

00:15:13will be different from older, cooler generations?

00:15:16That is not in there.

00:15:17He is...

00:15:18He is, like, CNN, like, messing up...

00:15:20Messing up the source material.

00:15:22Yeah.

00:15:22How do you think your generation

00:15:23will be different from older generations?

00:15:25I think a lot of us are very woke.

00:15:27I do not think a lot of Gen Zs are gonna get married.

00:15:29I genuinely think there's gonna be a giant fall

00:15:31in the population or in the birth rates.

00:15:35Just because I'm...

00:15:35I see, like, a lot of stories...

00:15:37Or maybe Gen Z are, like, the very, like, youngest millennials.

00:15:39Yeah.

00:15:40But I hear, like, a lot of stories,

00:15:42whether they're in memes or, like, I don't know,

00:15:43Reddit posts or whatever,

00:15:44of people saying, like,

00:15:45oh, I just can't find, like, a wife

00:15:47or I just can't find anyone

00:15:48because the views between the genders are so different.

00:15:50Like, mainly political.

00:15:51Like, not even just political, like, everything.

00:15:52But the boys are much more conservative

00:15:54and getting more conservative

00:15:55and the girls are much more liberal

00:15:56and getting more liberal.

00:15:57Yeah.

00:15:58So there's just not a lot of people

00:16:00that are able to find, I think, like,

00:16:02suitable wife or husband material for each other.

00:16:04Yeah, it's really sad.

00:16:05I think for those that do have, like, kids

00:16:08and actually get married and stuff,

00:16:10I think they're gonna be pretty good parents.

00:16:12A lot of the, like, peaceful parenting

00:16:14and, like, you don't have to stay with toxic parents,

00:16:16that is becoming a lot more popularized

00:16:18over the last, like, five years.

00:16:19Yes, but at least I'm getting credit for it.

00:16:20I know, right?

00:16:21But it is becoming more popularized,

00:16:24which is, I think...

00:16:26Oh, I think I've heard of...

00:16:28I've heard of Dax.

00:16:29Dax is a talented rapper who makes anti-woke music

00:16:31with a hint of male sympathy.

00:16:33Yeah, I've heard that.

00:16:33I don't remember that from Battlestar Galactica, though.

00:16:36Sorry, you wanted to do the live stream.

00:16:38Bye, gotta go to work.

00:16:41I can't believe you lasted this long.

00:16:42All right.

00:16:43So I do think the few that do actually have kids

00:16:45are gonna be pretty decent parents.

00:16:46That's my guess on the generation.

00:16:48Right.

00:16:49Uh, and should we talk and sing the praises of Jenn A?

00:16:54No, we're not.

00:16:55We've done Jenn A on, like, all the other shows.

00:16:56Okay.

00:16:56We can't do it every show.

00:16:57I just, like, poke in the wound of hell and horror.

00:17:00All right.

00:17:00What is the most interesting thing in the world to Izzy right now?

00:17:03What's interesting?

00:17:03Would you say it's your job or something else?

00:17:05No, my job is more just, like, a way for me to spend time.

00:17:08Right.

00:17:08What I want is I want two jobs.

00:17:10Because this place, I mean, I've suggested...

00:17:14I'm happy to be the only person working the...

00:17:16Can we say, like, job?

00:17:17It's a high school.

00:17:19So there's supposed to be a lot more people in there,

00:17:21but they're understaffed.

00:17:22So it's basically just been me when there's supposed to be three or four people.

00:17:25But I've been managing fine.

00:17:27And I made a case to the manager, who is pretty new.

00:17:30I think she got business really recently.

00:17:32But I was saying, like, hey, you know...

00:17:33Or not the manager, the owner.

00:17:35If you keep it open during the weekdays, I know it's not going to be as busy,

00:17:39but I'm happy to run it by myself.

00:17:40So the sales, like, the price of keeping it open is going to be way lower.

00:17:43So as long as I make a profit, it's worth it.

00:17:45And we've sort of roughly figured out the number of ice creams you need to sell.

00:17:48This many per hour.

00:17:49I can definitely do that.

00:17:51Like, some people will be ordering just, like,

00:17:53the same amount of the things I need to sell in one hour.

00:17:56And you went from being nervous...

00:17:59I was really nervous because...

00:18:00Because it's your first day and they had you alone, right?

00:18:02Saturday was going to be absolutely crazy.

00:18:04And I was there for, like, seven and a half hours by myself.

00:18:07And they were like, oh, it's going to be crazy.

00:18:09People are going to be lining up down the street.

00:18:11I'm like, they didn't even teach me how to make stuff, but that's fine.

00:18:14So then you were nervous that people weren't going to be there to help you.

00:18:17And then...

00:18:18When someone did come and help me, it got all messy.

00:18:20And I'm like, maybe you should, like...

00:18:22Oh, no, people aren't going to help me.

00:18:23Oh, no, people are helping me.

00:18:24I was trying to be polite.

00:18:25But it was just when, like, the other girl came in,

00:18:27it just got complicated because she was taking orders too quick.

00:18:30Right.

00:18:30And then she was making some of the ice creams

00:18:32and I was making some of the ice creams.

00:18:33And we were not communicating well on how to get the ice creams to the right person.

00:18:37And especially when people ordered, like,

00:18:39it was unfortunate because we got really specific orders from two people.

00:18:42We got a double in a waffle cone with one vanilla and one orange sherbet, right?

00:18:47Two of those.

00:18:48That never happens.

00:18:48That is, like, such a weird combo.

00:18:50No one does vanilla and orange.

00:18:51Right.

00:18:51Like, what the heck?

00:18:52And we got two of those and it was, like, the same looking people.

00:18:55It was a mess.

00:18:55But then she left and things went back to normal.

00:18:57Well, it's funny because everyone thinks...

00:19:00And this is particularly true in governments.

00:19:02They say, oh, well, things aren't particularly efficient, so we'll add more people.

00:19:06And a lot of times, efficiency is achieved by removing people

00:19:09and just letting the core competency flow.

00:19:11Yeah, for me, because they said it's probably going to be, like, a weekend thing.

00:19:14Yeah.

00:19:15I do want to get another job.

00:19:16Also, I feel like if it is full-time, you want to be the guy who orders the banana split.

00:19:21Yeah, well, we don't have bananas.

00:19:22So you can't.

00:19:25No, no, but just keep ordering it.

00:19:26No screaming customers yet?

00:19:28There was one guy who got pretty mad.

00:19:30This is when both of us were in there.

00:19:31Well, technically, there are ice-creaming customers.

00:19:34Okay, go on.

00:19:35That's all good.

00:19:36I don't even know what that was.

00:19:38No, no screaming customers yet.

00:19:39They've all been pretty friendly.

00:19:40And when I explain that I'm taking the job of, like, three or four people,

00:19:43they're like, oh, yeah, take your time.

00:19:44Right, right.

00:19:45And also, I mean, I'm definitely going to be milking.

00:19:48Oh, it's my first day.

00:19:49I mean, I'm not saying it's my first day, but I'll say it.

00:19:51I'm new to the workforce.

00:19:52Because that gets tips.

00:19:54Right.

00:19:55All right.

00:19:57What the heck was I saying about the ice-cream place?

00:20:00Oh, what's my most interesting thing?

00:20:01Yeah, so that, for me, is really just a way to spend time.

00:20:04And the reason I want to get two jobs is because I feel like if I'm just scooping ice-cream

00:20:07full-time, and it does become a full-time job or whatever, right?

00:20:09So it's like every day scooping ice-cream in the same building.

00:20:11I'm just going to get really bored.

00:20:12And I feel like I won't be efficient if I'm bored.

00:20:13So I want two different places to mess up the atmosphere.

00:20:17But we'll see what happens.

00:20:18I mean, I'm just happy I have a job, so.

00:20:20Yeah, it's very cool.

00:20:21Yeah, the most exciting thing for me, I don't know, maybe like video game lore.

00:20:26Video game lore.

00:20:27We're also playing some D&D with some friends.

00:20:29D&D is a lot of fun.

00:20:30Which is a lot of fun.

00:20:31And also, you're working on creating a whole—

00:20:33Oh, that would be it.

00:20:34That would be it.

00:20:34Oh, come on.

00:20:34That's the thing, right?

00:20:35When I go to—we go to a cafe, not the same one, but we go to a cafe.

00:20:38I work on the Peaceful Parenting short version.

00:20:41And you are generating a whole planet in your application.

00:20:46Yeah, so I've actually been working on a dungeon for Dungeons & Dragons.

00:20:50I would say—

00:20:51Hang on.

00:20:52No, for those who don't know, it's not just a dungeon.

00:20:54It's a whole world, right?

00:20:54It's a whole world, yeah.

00:20:56And it's also a whole story because, I mean, for me, I really love the story aspect.

00:20:59And everyone was fine with this.

00:21:00I did ask them and they were like, yeah, it's all good.

00:21:02So there's basically six preset characters.

00:21:05We have five people playing.

00:21:06I'm playing one NPC.

00:21:07So there's five characters that are basically, I want to say, assigned to each player.

00:21:11And they usually have options.

00:21:13If it's like, okay, you can choose between these four classes or these six races or whatever,

00:21:16right?

00:21:16So it's very like—I didn't want to take over the character customization for people

00:21:20or the creation because I know that's—

00:21:21The classes for people who don't know?

00:21:22Oh, yeah, classes.

00:21:23Sorry, I keep thinking like we're all nerds, but—

00:21:27Creative, thank you very much.

00:21:28Whether you're a wizard or a knight or a cleric or a thief or something.

00:21:32And races, I mean, that's pretty obvious.

00:21:33Yeah, yeah.

00:21:34But—

00:21:34No, but races wouldn't be like the human type races for this, like orcs and elves and dwarves

00:21:39and halflings and so on, right?

00:21:40My NPC is a sea elf.

00:21:42Right, right.

00:21:42That's massive spoilers.

00:21:43If anyone here is playing the campaign and listening to this, you just learned everything.

00:21:46And it's cool because the sea elf's name is—

00:21:49The field name is Seraphine because I had to do Finn.

00:21:51Sorry, Seraphine.

00:21:53Sorry, go ahead.

00:21:54Seraphine.

00:21:55You know what I'm really mad at?

00:21:57So it's actually—it was originally Seraphina, but now I have to make it Seraphine because

00:22:01I literally just met a girl named Seraphina.

00:22:03Oh, really?

00:22:04Yeah, and I was like, I can't—I cannot do this.

00:22:06So I had to change it to Seraphine.

00:22:08And you have desert, mountain—

00:22:10Okay, yeah, I've got everything.

00:22:11—jungle—

00:22:11I've got everything.

00:22:12—underground—

00:22:13Hold on, we've got caves, mountain, desert, lakes, oceans, jungles, arctic.

00:22:21We have different dimensions.

00:22:22I'm not saying all the dimensions because those are supposed to be a surprise.

00:22:24Yeah.

00:22:24And you are doing it, but I mean, he's going to be one of the characters.

00:22:28Seraph—no!

00:22:30Seraphine!

00:22:31Seraphine?

00:22:33S-E-R-A-F-I-N, Finn because sea elf.

00:22:36And I just, I don't know, I was like on a name generator, okay?

00:22:39Okay, so Q-Tips can be your friend.

00:22:41Yes.

00:22:43Cetaphil.

00:22:45And this is—sometimes when you create stuff—

00:22:48Maybe I should just call her Phil, that'd be really funny.

00:22:51Phil the sea elf?

00:22:52I don't know!

00:22:53It's like the least D&D name.

00:22:54I know someone named Ophelia and everyone calls her Phil and she gets really mad over it.

00:22:58Ophelia?

00:22:58Oh, Phil?

00:22:59Oh, that's funny.

00:22:59Yeah, and they get mad.

00:23:00No, and sometimes when you create stuff, it just snowballs, right?

00:23:03And there's like more and more.

00:23:04No, this was not one of those.

00:23:05No?

00:23:05There was—wait, snowballs.

00:23:06Oh, sorry, I thought you meant like messes up.

00:23:08No, no, no.

00:23:08I had that at first.

00:23:09I had like a different story going on.

00:23:11And the reason—sorry, let me get back to this.

00:23:13The reason I made kind of characters for people or at least kind of set up a relative backstory

00:23:18because I want them to be really involved with the story of the adventure.

00:23:21And I didn't, you know, the people playing, they have busy lives.

00:23:23I didn't want them—I didn't want to be like,

00:23:24guys, come up with a detailed backstory, right?

00:23:28Because that takes time and, you know,

00:23:29I don't want people to start off being bored or like busy or whatever

00:23:33and viewing it as a negative thing.

00:23:35So that's kind of why I did it.

00:23:36And everyone was fine with it.

00:23:37So we'll see.

00:23:39One of the funniest things that happened,

00:23:40this is a little while ago for me in D&D,

00:23:42was that you rolled your character traits and it was that you misquote things.

00:23:46Oh my gosh, yeah, I do remember that.

00:23:48And then there was a girl playing who was totally into Taylor Swift

00:23:51and you just kept misquoting Taylor Swift lyrics.

00:23:52No, no, it wasn't that.

00:23:53Did I have that right?

00:23:54Kind of.

00:23:55Yeah, yeah.

00:23:55So she was—she rolled for character traits.

00:23:58Yeah.

00:23:58And she got—she worships a certain god of her faith.

00:24:01And she made that god Taylor Swift because she thought it'd be really funny.

00:24:03Yeah, it is, yeah.

00:24:04So I thought—I constantly misquoted religious texts.

00:24:07Yes.

00:24:07I take religious texts.

00:24:09So I constantly misquoted Taylor Swift.

00:24:11I'm like, as Taylor Swift once said,

00:24:13and I used it as like—I used what she said as an excuse

00:24:17to be like the absolute worst human being ever.

00:24:20Like make the absolute most atrocious choices.

00:24:23That's very funny.

00:24:24It's unfortunate.

00:24:25I got like very similar characteristics in this adventure

00:24:27we're currently playing, not the one I'm working on.

00:24:29Right.

00:24:29But like we got—I keep getting the same like characteristics

00:24:32of being slightly like very chaotic, kind of bragging,

00:24:35and like just keep rolling that.

00:24:37Yep.

00:24:38It's almost like the gods are trying to tell you something.

00:24:40The NPC I'm—I don't brag in real life.

00:24:42The NPC I'm playing in my dungeon is not like that.

00:24:45Very lawful, very like thinking through things,

00:24:47and like needs to play a different character.

00:24:51All right.

00:24:53It's an interesting question.

00:24:54I'm not sure we can answer it.

00:24:55How do you think being homeschooled has benefited slash detracted

00:24:59you compared to your peers socially and educationally so far?

00:25:02Because all of your peers are homeschooled.

00:25:04Almost.

00:25:05Not all.

00:25:06All the people at the job aren't.

00:25:07No, no.

00:25:08But that's not—I mean, I'm thinking social.

00:25:09I've met a lot of people recently that aren't.

00:25:11Yeah, yeah.

00:25:12I don't—but I don't think that you know them well enough

00:25:14to know how much of a divergence there's been.

00:25:16True.

00:25:16Yeah.

00:25:17And they also—they could have been homeschooled for we know, right?

00:25:20No, they weren't.

00:25:20They talked about—

00:25:22All right.

00:25:22Hi, Izzy.

00:25:22Do you think you will ever become a public figure like your dad?

00:25:26I wanted to when I was younger.

00:25:27Yeah.

00:25:28I actually wanted to run for president,

00:25:30but I realized I couldn't do that because I'm Canadian.

00:25:33Oh, U.S. president.

00:25:34Right, right, right.

00:25:35That's probably like a love—I don't know.

00:25:36I learned that.

00:25:37I'm like, oh, well.

00:25:40But I don't know.

00:25:41Probably—I mean, maybe.

00:25:43It'd be kind of cool.

00:25:44I might do something like in YouTube, but I probably wouldn't do—I wouldn't be like

00:25:46a serious philosophy show.

00:25:47I'd probably just be like goofy stuff.

00:25:49Game lore.

00:25:50No, not game lore.

00:25:52But just like goofy stuff.

00:25:53Like gaming.

00:25:53The history of meat-eating plants.

00:25:56Are you talking about Vida Karnas?

00:25:58That's not even a game.

00:25:59No, but it's a YouTube.

00:26:02But it's not game lore, but it's—he created a whole alternate universe of meat-eating plants

00:26:07because he probably—you know what probably happened was when he was in the crib—when

00:26:11he was in the crib—when he was in the crib, there were vines that probably grew in through

00:26:14the window around his neck.

00:26:16So he's just frightened of plants and he made them kind of—

00:26:17The vines were edible.

00:26:18They didn't even—

00:26:20Huh?

00:26:20The vines weren't the problem.

00:26:22They were edible.

00:26:22I'm just trying to figure out why somebody would be so frightened of plants.

00:26:25Oh, no, it's global warming.

00:26:27He's frightened of plants.

00:26:29Okay.

00:26:29Because plant food.

00:26:31Oh my gosh.

00:26:32I'm done.

00:26:32All right.

00:26:33Steph history lore.

00:26:35Okay.

00:26:37What has been your most life-changing experience so far?

00:26:41Honestly, it'd be quite serious.

00:26:42The job.

00:26:43I'd say that's like a very big thing.

00:26:44Very big thing, right?

00:26:45Because this is your entry into productivity from an economic standpoint.

00:26:49All right.

00:26:52Let's see here.

00:26:53What advice would you give to new animators?

00:26:55Will you tell us about your workflow?

00:26:57Oh, I haven't animated in years.

00:27:01What advice would you give to new animators?

00:27:03Will you tell us about your workflow?

00:27:07Sorry.

00:27:07Canada's kind of lame.

00:27:08The kids want to grow up to be U.S. presidents.

00:27:11It is.

00:27:12Yeah, Canada sucks.

00:27:14Canada is like—

00:27:15We have the younger brother complex compared to the U.S.

00:27:17I don't really know one.

00:27:18I have some online friends in the U.S.

00:27:20And they're like,

00:27:21Do you guys even have elections?

00:27:22What's the whole thing down there?

00:27:24And like—

00:27:24Down there?

00:27:26They didn't say down there.

00:27:28It's like, turn the map around.

00:27:29We're actually up here.

00:27:30Okay.

00:27:31And then there was another one where they were like,

00:27:33Oh my gosh, what was it?

00:27:34They're like, do you have to like—

00:27:36Are you like breaking the law by being homeschooled?

00:27:38And I'm like, what?

00:27:39And we'll be actually fewer restrictions here than other people in other countries.

00:27:44Yeah.

00:27:44So what was it about animating?

00:27:46I mean, for me, I started off literally in like a drawing app that wasn't even animating,

00:27:51just using different layers and taking screenshots.

00:27:53That's the catch of life.

00:27:54No.

00:27:55Before that?

00:27:55No, that's not animating.

00:27:58Catch of life is not animating.

00:27:59Sorry, what was the one that you did that you—

00:28:01IBIS paint.

00:28:02Okay.

00:28:03But didn't you get the characters from Catch of Life?

00:28:05No.

00:28:05No?

00:28:05I did Among Us characters.

00:28:06Okay, got it.

00:28:07Catch of Life did not remind me of that.

00:28:08That was probably like my worst era.

00:28:10No, but there was.

00:28:11You did whole—

00:28:12It wasn't total animation.

00:28:13You did the legs.

00:28:14You showed me how you did the legs.

00:28:15That wasn't animation.

00:28:16Why?

00:28:16What was it?

00:28:17Why was it not animation?

00:28:18I didn't do it.

00:28:18It was pre-recorded.

00:28:19I literally screen recorded them making an animation.

00:28:22I didn't animate anything.

00:28:25I didn't animate anything.

00:28:26Are you trying to tell me how I did my work?

00:28:28For the sake of the show, I'm going to pretend to agree with it.

00:28:31No, you're right.

00:28:31Of course you're right.

00:28:32I did the work!

00:28:32You did the work.

00:28:33But I just remember you showing me how you put the legs together.

00:28:35That's probably the worst thing I've ever done.

00:28:37Right, right.

00:28:38Okay.

00:28:41What am I trying to say?

00:28:43Yeah, so I did the animation in IBIS paint because I just enjoyed it

00:28:47and I didn't have an actual app.

00:28:49And then eventually I was like, this is not like—

00:28:51IBIS paint is the one with about 40,000 million menu options.

00:28:56I don't use it anymore though because it's kind of like low quality.

00:28:59But Clip Studio is even worse for that stuff.

00:29:04But then I was like, I need an actual app because after a long time,

00:29:08I was like, this is not going to work for long enough.

00:29:11Or not work for long enough, exactly.

00:29:12But it's just not a long-term solution for this, to say the least.

00:29:19But then I just went—

00:29:22I mean, if you enjoy it, honestly, there's no tips I can give you.

00:29:25If you enjoy it, just figure it out.

00:29:27I mean, I didn't watch any videos.

00:29:28I just figured it out.

00:29:29Like, if you really enjoy something, nothing's going to stop you

00:29:32and you won't need a whole bunch of tips to do it.

00:29:33So I would say don't animate unless you really like it

00:29:35because it's really tedious.

00:29:37So if it's—

00:29:37And once you're in—

00:29:38If it's something like you don't like doing, don't try and get into it

00:29:41because it's not one of those things that's going to grow on you.

00:29:44In fact, it's probably one of those things that you're going to learn to hate.

00:29:46Right, right.

00:29:47Your workflow as a whole though, so did you come up with a story idea or—

00:29:53I wrote a script and then I thought—

00:29:55I imagined the voice acting and the images of the animation in my head.

00:29:59And then I did some—

00:30:01After the voice acting and stuff was done,

00:30:03I did some storyboarding just on paper.

00:30:05And then a little bit online, but most of it was just on paper.

00:30:08And then I did the final storyboarding online.

00:30:11Then I made the backgrounds.

00:30:12Then I inputted the backgrounds.

00:30:14And then I started actually doing the animation.

00:30:15Because once you have the backgrounds,

00:30:17you can figure out where the light sources are

00:30:18so you can actually draw accordingly.

00:30:21Because you need to know where the shade is.

00:30:22Because if I did the animation first,

00:30:24the shadow would probably stay on one side as he walked across the room,

00:30:27which is not going to happen

00:30:28because they were all set in a spaceship

00:30:29because they're all about the game Among Us.

00:30:31And there are lights everywhere in the spaceship.

00:30:33So if it just stayed one place,

00:30:34so that's why I had to do the backgrounds first.

00:30:36But the earlier ones you did,

00:30:37and I know you're saying they're not animation,

00:30:39they ended up being somewhat animated.

00:30:41Although you weren't drawing the gatcha light stuff.

00:30:43Those, I don't count that.

00:30:44In fact, I basically erased gatcha light from my mind

00:30:46because that was probably my cringiest phase

00:30:48and probably my worst phase.

00:30:49We're not going to talk about that.

00:30:53How did you keep going?

00:30:54Because you would do the animation sometimes,

00:30:56it would take you months.

00:30:57Yeah, I mean, I really just was like,

00:30:59I told people I'm getting it done by July 1st.

00:31:01I'm getting it done by July 1st.

00:31:02Right, right.

00:31:03So you just make a plan.

00:31:04I got it done by July 10th,

00:31:05which I think was really good

00:31:06considering it was a 20 minute animation.

00:31:07So it was really hard to estimate.

00:31:08It was a 20 minute animation.

00:31:10How many frames a second?

00:31:11It really varied.

00:31:12Some scenes were only 12 frames a second.

00:31:14Other scenes were like 60 frames a second.

00:31:15So it really depends.

00:31:17It was just depending on the animation itself.

00:31:19Like for the meetings,

00:31:21not very high frames a second

00:31:23because they're all just sitting there around a table.

00:31:24And you just have to maybe move the mouth a bit.

00:31:25They have no mouth, they are Among Us characters.

00:31:27Oh, that's right, right.

00:31:28But I would move the visor.

00:31:30I used the visor kind of to show expression

00:31:32because I saw a lot of other animators doing that.

00:31:34Like you get angry visor and then happy visor.

00:31:36Yeah, so it was just like,

00:31:36I changed the shape a little bit to convey emotions

00:31:39because I didn't,

00:31:40if, I mean, it'd be kind of lame.

00:31:41All I'd have to do is show them turning their head

00:31:43and rely solely upon the voice acting,

00:31:45which I don't think was fair.

00:31:46So I basically did,

00:31:49the meetings were probably like 20 frames a second.

00:31:51Yeah.

00:31:52Some of the scenes

00:31:53where they were just walking in the distance

00:31:54didn't have to be very fast

00:31:56because a few pixels in the back,

00:31:58it's not that serious.

00:32:00But I think the death scenes or whatever,

00:32:03where the imposter killed or whatever,

00:32:05those were probably very quick

00:32:06because they had to be quick movements.

00:32:07So those would probably be the 60 second frames.

00:32:09Well, and it's funny because I remember,

00:32:11of course, that your motivation

00:32:13would kind of go up and down a little bit.

00:32:15There were some scenes where I like absolutely,

00:32:17the meetings are amazing.

00:32:18I could probably get a minute done a day.

00:32:19Right.

00:32:20Except only except 60 frames.

00:32:22Yes, that's very true.

00:32:23Actually, I think maybe 80 frames a second.

00:32:24I don't even think 60.

00:32:25So when they toasted my YouTube channel,

00:32:27what actually pained me more

00:32:28than the loss of all the philosophy in the comments

00:32:30was that those videos,

00:32:32I worked very hard way back in the day

00:32:33to make them 60 frames a second.

00:32:35And the other mirrored sites

00:32:37didn't have 60 frames a second.

00:32:39So basically the philosophy was only half as good

00:32:42because it went from 60 to 30 frames a second.

00:32:44People actually listen to the videos,

00:32:46not watch them.

00:32:47Because I mean, it's not like one of those YouTubers

00:32:49that puts up like actual videos

00:32:51and like texts and stuff.

00:32:52So no, I'm sure that's right.

00:32:54I mean, I think worrying about the audio quality

00:32:55is like, okay, I guess.

00:32:57But maybe like the video quality,

00:32:59not that serious.

00:32:59Well, it's funny because

00:33:00after I put so much work into the audio quality,

00:33:02I did a show the other day

00:33:04when I was driving back from someplace

00:33:06where I just held my phone up.

00:33:08Yeah.

00:33:08And everyone was like, nobody cares.

00:33:10Oh, by the way, yes, the Mario one.

00:33:11I did actually hear that.

00:33:13I don't like the Mario games,

00:33:14but I did watch a lore video on Mario

00:33:17because I'm me.

00:33:18Fun fact, Mario doesn't say,

00:33:20it's a me Mario.

00:33:21He says, it's a me Mario.

00:33:23That's Japanese for super.

00:33:26She's right.

00:33:28About the audio, yeah.

00:33:29About, about what?

00:33:34Why are you doing that alien thing?

00:33:36So that people will watch the videos.

00:33:38Okay, got it.

00:33:41Let's see.

00:33:41Oh, I have seen this.

00:33:43Yeah, I've seen him before.

00:33:44Animations for cartoons.

00:33:46The streamer.

00:33:47Yes.

00:33:47Okay.

00:33:48He's just making up words at this point.

00:33:51All right.

00:33:52And actually there's a game called Donkey Kong.

00:33:56No, it's not a game.

00:33:57That's a character.

00:33:58No, it was actually a game way back.

00:33:59I'm sorry, it was a game,

00:34:00but I mean, like nowadays it's popularized as the character.

00:34:03Anyway, so it was called Donkey Kong,

00:34:05but it was a typo.

00:34:06It was supposed to be Monkey Kong

00:34:07because there's no donkeys in the game.

00:34:09It's only monkeys.

00:34:09So it's called Donkey Kong,

00:34:11but it was supposed to be Monkey Kong.

00:34:12They just got the letter wrong.

00:34:13That's funny.

00:34:14Actually, I think it works better that way

00:34:15because everyone loves Donkey Kong.

00:34:17Right.

00:34:17You're screened as late.

00:34:19All right.

00:34:23Let's see here.

00:34:24What about your father's parenting style?

00:34:26More than anything else,

00:34:27do you think all parents should practice with their kids?

00:34:30Should I leave the room for this one?

00:34:31Because it might, in fact,

00:34:32involve a tiny bit of praise for your father,

00:34:35which I know is painful for you.

00:34:36Oh, praise?

00:34:37I wasn't going to go with that aspect, but like.

00:34:39Do you think all parents should practice with their kids?

00:34:42Absolutely not.

00:34:43No, I'm kidding.

00:34:44Can I just see it?

00:34:44Yeah.

00:34:46Ow, people cut.

00:34:47Are you kidding me?

00:34:48Look, look at this nonsense.

00:34:51Clipboards there and there.

00:34:54And I still can't straighten my thumb.

00:34:56Oh, because you fell off your rollerblades.

00:34:59Yeah.

00:34:59My thumb doesn't.

00:35:00I mean, it's getting better,

00:35:01but it still doesn't like.

00:35:03Imagine trying to move your hair.

00:35:04You can't move your hair, right?

00:35:06That's how it is with my thumb.

00:35:07She can only hitchhike in small cars.

00:35:09It's really awkward

00:35:10because I'm always carrying stuff with this hand

00:35:12and someone's like,

00:35:13can you do this?

00:35:13And I'm like, yeah.

00:35:14Yeah, it's going to come back,

00:35:16but it'll take time.

00:35:17Yeah, it's getting better for sure.

00:35:20Sorry, perhaps you missed the question.

00:35:21I should read it to you again.

00:35:24Now, do you want me to leave the room for this one?

00:35:25No.

00:35:26I might hear praise.

00:35:27Oh, God.

00:35:28What about your father's parents?

00:35:30I don't know.

00:35:31I think just being like involved

00:35:32and, you know, a lot of people will be like,

00:35:35if they have a stay-at-home wife,

00:35:36but like a father that goes to work,

00:35:38then the father just doesn't really do anything

00:35:39with the kids until they're like teenagers

00:35:40and he's more on the retire,

00:35:41like a retiring side of things.

00:35:43Right.

00:35:43So I say just be involved during

00:35:45the younger ages of the kids.

00:35:47Maybe when they're a teenager,

00:35:48you can like leave them alone,

00:35:49but when they're younger,

00:35:50no, I'm kidding.

00:35:52Well, I don't want to speak for you,

00:35:54of course, right?

00:35:55But I would say,

00:35:56don't worry so much about what you do.

00:35:59Just work on having fun together, right?

00:36:01So like half, it doesn't matter.

00:36:03Like we will go literally like walking

00:36:04in like a swampy river

00:36:05like the group is up to my knees

00:36:07just because we want to catch crayfish.

00:36:08Well, or it's like, we'll say,

00:36:09hey, let's just go to X town for the day.

00:36:12We don't know what we're really going to do.

00:36:14We'll just go there and figure something out.

00:36:15So if you work.

00:36:18Great Canadian medical.

00:36:19I have a story about that.

00:36:21So we go in for like the final x-ray

00:36:23once my brace is off or whatever, right?

00:36:25And I mean, it still hurts a bit,

00:36:27but like I can, everything's fine.

00:36:28I can move my wrist around.

00:36:29There's no like movability.

00:36:30And I, she's like, yeah, you're good.

00:36:32And she's like, I'm just gonna take another x-ray.

00:36:33Just move your hand to the side or whatever.

00:36:35And I said, oh yeah, by the way, I have a question.

00:36:37I can't really like straighten my thumb.

00:36:39Do you know like what that's,

00:36:41if that's going to get any better,

00:36:42like what the problem is?

00:36:42She's like, oh, that's really weird.

00:36:45Yeah, that's not what you want to hear.

00:36:46That's not what I'm like.

00:36:47Also first time she just moved your.

00:36:50Oh, that wasn't her.

00:36:50That was a different lady.

00:36:52So when like the second day after I broke my wrist,

00:36:54the second day, I, she, like this lady there

00:36:57was giving me the brace

00:36:58cause I didn't even need a full cast.

00:36:59Like apparently it was not a very bad break.

00:37:01Yeah, it's a crack really more than a break, right?

00:37:03So she just takes my arm, like grabs my arm.

00:37:06Turns it for you.

00:37:08Like says shooting pain.

00:37:09Like it really hurts.

00:37:10It's so sore.

00:37:11I'm like, I have to sleep with it, like on three pillows

00:37:13so that it doesn't change position.

00:37:14Like that's how much it hurts.

00:37:16Um, and she like shoves it onto my hand very aggressively.

00:37:21I don't like, I literally like take her hand.

00:37:23I'm like, stop it.

00:37:24Yeah.

00:37:25Yeah.

00:37:25I don't, I don't know about that.

00:37:27That seems odd to me.

00:37:27It was hurt more than, oh yeah.

00:37:29Here's also another story.

00:37:30So I fell and my phone fell out of my pocket.

00:37:34So I did not know at this point, I thought my wrist, like

00:37:36it felt really numb and I was like, oh shoot.

00:37:39Maybe I sprained it or something.

00:37:41And I'm like, well, my poor phone, it might be crashed.

00:37:45Oh yeah.

00:37:46So I use my like broken wrist hand to pick up my phone

00:37:50and it's crashed and I'm like really devastated.

00:37:53And then I go home and I'm like looking up, I'm like

00:37:55sprained wrist symptoms.

00:37:56And I'm like, that is not even like bad.

00:38:00Your second hand, no battery crap phone.

00:38:03Yeah.

00:38:04With my first one, I get my paycheck.

00:38:06I'm getting a new phone.

00:38:06I desperately need a new phone.

00:38:08Yeah.

00:38:08You can actually watch the battery life go down.

00:38:10If you want to know something new that you'll absolutely love.

00:38:13So there's a little top area and this shows up sometimes,

00:38:15but it's actually hasn't gone away this time.

00:38:17Yeah.

00:38:17There's just like a little spot or a few spots

00:38:20at the top that just don't show anything.

00:38:21They're just red.

00:38:24I hurt.

00:38:24Yeah.

00:38:25I hurt.

00:38:28Oh, what was I going to say?

00:38:29Well, so the funny thing is, and I once fell off a bike and I didn't break,

00:38:33but I cracked my forearm.

00:38:34So what your body does, I think this is just evolutionarily speaking,

00:38:37like what your body does is it says, okay,

00:38:40I'm not going to hurt right now because I assume

00:38:41you need to get away from the fight or the bear or the war.

00:38:44Oh, it hurt real bad.

00:38:46No, but because it hurt much more later, right?

00:38:50I would say, yeah, it hurt the most when I first got an x-rayed.

00:38:54She made me like-

00:38:55No, no, sorry.

00:38:56Just when it happened, you didn't know.

00:38:58I did.

00:38:58I couldn't move my fingers.

00:39:00Right, but it didn't hurt quite as much as it did later.

00:39:02I couldn't move my fingers because it hurt.

00:39:04Oh, okay.

00:39:04I could, but it hurt so bad that I couldn't move.

00:39:06Okay.

00:39:07Because I thought maybe you thought you'd sprained it or something like that.

00:39:09No, I realized that when I picked up my phone

00:39:11and I just felt like this absolutely excruciating pain through my arm.

00:39:14I'm like, oh, that's probably not ideal.

00:39:17Okay.

00:39:18Yeah.

00:39:18So for me, it was like I was able to bike home

00:39:20and then the pain just sort of grew and grew after that.

00:39:22Oh, okay.

00:39:22All right.

00:39:23The worst part for me was when I was in the first x-ray

00:39:25and she was like, turn your wrist.

00:39:26And I couldn't like, hold up.

00:39:28This is not the hand I broke, but she was like going this.

00:39:30Yeah.

00:39:31And I literally, I could not do it.

00:39:33Oh, bone stuff is crazy painful.

00:39:35Yeah.

00:39:36Because yeah, bone stuff is crazy painful.

00:39:37That's not supposed to happen.

00:39:38Free healthcare for the win.

00:39:39Honestly, didn't hurt until hours later.

00:39:42Yeah, you're lucky because like, that's not what...

00:39:44Maybe it's a man thing?

00:39:45Maybe.

00:39:46Yeah, it could be because...

00:39:47It could possibly evolve slightly differently.

00:39:49It's a...

00:39:49Like need help more instantly and the guys are probably out at battle.

00:39:53Yeah.

00:39:53So it's battle or it's some creature or something.

00:39:56So your body is like, I'll get you out of the battle and then you'll pay.

00:40:00Yeah.

00:40:01Because I feel for the women, if they do it, they can get healthcare pretty fast.

00:40:04Yeah.

00:40:04Because closer to home, right?

00:40:06Yeah.

00:40:06Because also you'd have to get home, right?

00:40:07Yeah.

00:40:08All right.

00:40:11Hi, Izzy.

00:40:12My girls are just a little younger than you.

00:40:14What advice do you have for them entering their teen years?

00:40:17Any advice on how to navigate friendships?

00:40:21Do you really need to navigate friendships?

00:40:23I don't get that.

00:40:25What do you mean by like...

00:40:26I think they're saying that friendships are complicated and how do you navigate them?

00:40:30If they're complicated, don't be friends with them.

00:40:32It should be.

00:40:32If it's a mess, why are you friends?

00:40:34Right.

00:40:35iPhone fans are...

00:40:36iPhone, man.

00:40:37iPhone.

00:40:37I'm sorry.

00:40:38I like Android, but your social status would plummet.

00:40:41I don't know what weird voodoo...

00:40:43This is the equivalent of Taylor Swift.

00:40:46I have an Android phone and do you feel dirty texting me on the Android phone?

00:40:50I do.

00:40:50I'm like, oh, it's the green text message.

00:40:53Yeah.

00:40:53So, and in your friend group, the iPhone is important, right?

00:40:57Everyone...

00:40:57I don't particularly care.

00:40:59I just know that if I get an Android as my next phone,

00:41:01then my friends are just going to be like, come on, what are you doing?

00:41:03You're Canadian and an Android?

00:41:05It's all over.

00:41:06It's all over.

00:41:07Yeah.

00:41:07So, I don't think friendships should be complicated.

00:41:09The whole point of friendships is that they're supposed to be a net positive to your life

00:41:13and they're not supposed to be complicated.

00:41:14So, navigating friendships...

00:41:15You shouldn't need to navigate.

00:41:16If it doesn't come easily, stop.

00:41:18Just keep them as an acquaintance.

00:41:20Don't become friends.

00:41:21Be yourself and see if people like you.

00:41:22There's really not much else you can do in life.

00:41:25Oh, yeah.

00:41:25Some guy said Android.

00:41:26Yeah, I do think Android has probably got better tech.

00:41:30Android is a green flag.

00:41:31Honestly, I wish I...

00:41:33I honestly think I could agree with you.

00:41:34But the thing is, in today's society,

00:41:37women care so much about whether you have an iPhone or an Android

00:41:40that if a guy has an iPhone, it shows he's willing to invest

00:41:44for a slightly more expensive phone

00:41:46just because it means people will view him better.

00:41:48So, yes, I do think Android...

00:41:50He's a slave to the marketing machine.

00:41:52I don't mean that.

00:41:52I'm just saying I think it's like the people

00:41:54who could either take a Walmart bag to carry their stuff into school

00:41:58or an actual backpack

00:41:59because the backpack is just going to give you more status.

00:42:01It's going to show that you actually care about how you look.

00:42:04So, look, I like Android.

00:42:05I think they have...

00:42:06I think their interfaces are pretty bad,

00:42:08but I think they take good pictures.

00:42:09You can do more on Android.

00:42:11Yeah.

00:42:11But I definitely think...

00:42:14I think for the most case,

00:42:15iPhone is probably a better investment.

00:42:18My chem engineer...

00:42:19Yes, I said for most cases.

00:42:20I didn't say every single time it's going to get you.

00:42:22Are you getting nicked?

00:42:23Yes.

00:42:24Pick the Android.

00:42:24Look.

00:42:25My chemical engineer girlfriend...

00:42:27That means he's a working woman.

00:42:28That's what I'm saying.

00:42:29No, no, but chemical engineer girlfriend is fantastic.

00:42:33Because you can like make...

00:42:34No, because they already have chemistry.

00:42:38Oh, you have so much.

00:42:40She can never say to you, we don't...

00:42:42I thought you would go better with the joke.

00:42:43That's why I didn't say that.

00:42:45You thought that joke...

00:42:46Did you honestly think that there was going to be a joke

00:42:48that was beneath me?

00:42:50No.

00:42:50If there's one thing I've taught you...

00:42:51People are going to pick the Android.

00:42:53Some people who don't particularly care about the social stuff or whatever.

00:42:56And also Android is probably more cost.

00:42:58It's worth it for the price sometimes.

00:43:00But I'm just saying, generally,

00:43:02iPhone is probably a social investment more than a...

00:43:06What's it called?

00:43:08Social capital?

00:43:08No, it's a social investment over a personal enjoyment investment.

00:43:12I'm going to wear uncomfortable clothes...

00:43:15To look good, right?

00:43:16It's probably good, right?

00:43:17If we go to a renaissance fair, you're going to wear clothes...

00:43:19I think that's actually kind of comfortable.

00:43:20Oh, they are?

00:43:21Okay.

00:43:21Of course, that's so easy.

00:43:22I don't have to suck my thumpkin.

00:43:23I know.

00:43:24I need one.

00:43:25I need two.

00:43:26So I can't remember.

00:43:28I think I told you the story about my friend in high school who would bring...

00:43:32That's what I was...

00:43:33The example I was using.

00:43:34Yeah.

00:43:35For those who don't know, I've said this story before.

00:43:36I keep it really brief.

00:43:38My friend in high school would bring plastic...

00:43:41He would bring his stuff to school in plastic bags rather than a cool Adidas bag.

00:43:45And he was like, well, it's free.

00:43:47And I'm like, is it though?

00:43:50Is it really free?

00:43:52Because he never ended up dating.

00:43:53One person said, why would you want to be around people that care about what phone you have?

00:43:57Yes, that's an interesting, deep question of morals, ethics, and integrity.

00:44:01Sorry, go ahead.

00:44:01No, it's an interesting question.

00:44:03So I think with my friend group, it would be more like if I got an Android, they'd mock me.

00:44:09And it would be like a joke though.

00:44:11They wouldn't genuinely...

00:44:11It's not serious.

00:44:12They wouldn't seriously think, oh my gosh, you're so low status.

00:44:14Why are you doing that?

00:44:15We can't be friends.

00:44:16It's not that.

00:44:16They'd be like, imagine having an Android, just stuff like that.

00:44:19But it wouldn't be serious.

00:44:20It's like Nickelback, not liking Nickelback.

00:44:23It's not a serious thing.

00:44:24It's just a joke, right?

00:44:24It wouldn't be like...

00:44:26We can't spend time with you.

00:44:27Yeah, it would just be a joke.

00:44:28And they'd mock me for it or whatever, but it wouldn't be serious.

00:44:31And it'll be fun and games, right?

00:44:32So what would happen is you'd have a vulnerability around your friends,

00:44:36which would be exploited and mercilessly attacked and exploited, right?

00:44:40I mean, again, it's just like, generally, I think it's just a little better.

00:44:44Sometimes I have an iPhone, but again, I don't think it particularly matters.

00:44:48If you don't want an iPhone, I'm not saying you have to get one.

00:44:49I'm just saying this is my view on it.

00:44:52So like, for instance, if everybody has an iPhone, you can easily add...

00:44:57Okay, social conformity.

00:44:59Guys, it's not that serious.

00:45:01Wait, wait.

00:45:01At Free Domain, we aim for social conformity.

00:45:04Oh, snarkiness.

00:45:07So you see, this is the audience.

00:45:09Let me just take a break here because I need you to understand this lovely audience that we have here.

00:45:14Okay, so hang on, hang on.

00:45:16So if you're hanging out with someone, it's better...

00:45:18Wait, wait.

00:45:19If you're not hanging out with them and you're texting them using...

00:45:22If you're hanging out with someone, it's better to not be on your phone anyway.

00:45:25So this...

00:45:25Now, do you remember how they sided with you with regards to the music?

00:45:29And now they've turned on you like vicious, rabid pit bulls.

00:45:33I just want to say, you know, if you're old enough that you don't really understand the

00:45:36new generation, that's really not my problem.

00:45:39Maybe you should just get a little younger.

00:45:41Maybe take some pills to refresh your memory.

00:45:44I'm just saying it might be good because I think I've explained myself.

00:45:47I'm kidding.

00:45:48I gotta tell you, the youth card is a little unarguable.

00:45:50Everyone's shame, Izzy.

00:45:51Yeah, honestly, go for it.

00:45:52I'm not saying I agree with this method of using the Android over the iPhone.

00:45:56I'm sorry, using the iPhone over the Android.

00:45:58I'm not saying I agree with it.

00:45:59I'm just saying it's something about, especially my generation, that I have to accept.

00:46:03Okay, so let's ask Izzy the most important question.

00:46:06Green bubbles give me the ick.

00:46:08Literally, I cannot stand them.

00:46:10That color is just not girly pop.

00:46:12I'm looking for a man in fine arts, 6'5", blue eyes, iPhone, fine arts.

00:46:17I'm kidding.

00:46:17That one showed up in my music recommendations.

00:46:21That is not my style of music.

00:46:24Like, it literally-

00:46:25It's not music!

00:46:26Whatever it is, but it showed up.

00:46:29Get the apron.

00:46:30Yeah, I'm sorry, guys.

00:46:30I'll get my Zimmer frame?

00:46:32What does that mean?

00:46:33I have no idea.

00:46:33What is Zimmer frame?

00:46:34You're so old, even I don't know what your lingo is.

00:46:37At least you admit it.

00:46:43At least it's not ancient history yet.

00:46:45You're going to shame my ass.

00:46:46Honestly, go for it.

00:46:48So here's the important question.

00:46:50The important question, oh, Izzy, is this.

00:46:53It's not so much whether your friends would shame you for having an Android phone.

00:46:58The question is, if one of your friends shows up with a new phone and it's an Android phone,

00:47:03what would you do?

00:47:04I would shame them.

00:47:05Oh, you would shame them!

00:47:06So you're part of the circle of viciousness.

00:47:08It would be very funny.

00:47:09I mean, I wouldn't be like, wow, you actually suck.

00:47:11I'd probably say that, but as a complete joke.

00:47:13I don't particularly care.

00:47:15It's just funny, right?

00:47:15It's easier sometimes because you can remove people from group chats if everyone has the

00:47:19same phone and there's more customization and stuff like that.

00:47:22But I mean, it's literally not that serious.

00:47:24I think if either all have Android or all have iPhone, but when it's everyone in groups,

00:47:28some people have iPhone, some people have Android, it's just harder to get the tech

00:47:31working because there's not very good overlap.

00:47:33That's all I'm saying.

00:47:34Right.

00:47:36To punch Apple fans?

00:47:37Steph one said he carved an exception to the non-aggression principle to punch Apple fanboys.

00:47:41I think when you're obsessing over it and you're willing to get a new phone for like

00:47:44$5,000 every year, that's when it's too much.

00:47:46Or the people who line up all night.

00:47:48Secondhand, and it's probably, I've had it for two years.

00:47:51Who knows how long it was before?

00:47:52It's an iPhone, like eight or something.

00:47:55Okay.

00:47:55No, six, wasn't it?

00:47:57I think it's eight.

00:47:58It's old.

00:47:58Yeah, it's old.

00:47:59And I got it for like 120 bucks.

00:48:00Okay.

00:48:01Like, that's what I mean.

00:48:01I'm not one of those fanboys.

00:48:04Now, but here's the thing.

00:48:05So your friends will mock people.

00:48:08And particularly you.

00:48:09I think they've been a comment or two about height.

00:48:12Like Izzy is actually standing.

00:48:14No, I'm kidding.

00:48:15She's not the tallest lady in the known universe.

00:48:18He's on a high chair.

00:48:19Yes, yes.

00:48:23I could use some soft food.

00:48:27So what was the phrase?

00:48:29Imagine having to jump.

00:48:32Imagine, what was it?

00:48:34They were jumping up to touch something or reaching up.

00:48:37And then you had to jump.

00:48:38I jumped and I still missed it.

00:48:39So they could just, cause they're all like six, three, six, four, six, whatever, right?

00:48:42There's a six, five guy who's like literally exactly one year older than me.

00:48:45We have the same birthday.

00:48:46He's one year older and he's six, five.

00:48:47So they touch it.

00:48:48So they touch something high up and you jump and can't reach it.

00:48:52And they say, imagine having to jump.

00:48:54Yeah.

00:48:55And even the other guy, even the other guy who was like, I don't know, similar to my

00:48:58height, he was like five, six or something.

00:49:00Now he's growing.

00:49:00Now he's like five tenths.

00:49:02Oh yeah.

00:49:02Like I'm left at the bottom.

00:49:06Oh, the zimmer frame.

00:49:06And you know what's sad?

00:49:07When they x-rayed my wrist to see if it had damaged my growth plates, my growth plates

00:49:11are closed.

00:49:11Like I'm done.

00:49:12I'm stuck here.

00:49:13Yeah.

00:49:13It's heels or nothing.

00:49:18Britishism for a walking frame.

00:49:19Oh, that's like the walkers that old people have to move ahead.

00:49:23All right.

00:49:24So I think we're done with the Android iPhone wars.

00:49:29Oh, I can start it up again.

00:49:31Yes, indeed.

00:49:32All right.

00:49:32What do we got here?

00:49:40All right.

00:49:42Now I know we've answered this before.

00:49:44Yes.

00:49:45But we have new ducks.

00:49:46We do.

00:49:47We have new ducks.

00:49:48We keep getting new ducks.

00:49:48It's really bad.

00:49:50Izzy, when you go back up, if you can send me a couple of pictures, I'll put them in

00:49:54the chat here.

00:49:54Well, I think I can probably show them on the screen.

00:49:57Oh, okay.

00:49:57Second.

00:49:58Actually, I don't know.

00:49:59My iCloud stopped working.

00:50:00My phone doesn't do iCloud anymore, so I don't really have pictures on here.

00:50:03All right.

00:50:04Just ask the question.

00:50:05I'm just like...

00:50:05Okay.

00:50:06Why ducks?

00:50:07Will this become more than a hobby?

00:50:08Will you become a duck farmer?

00:50:10To be honestly serious, I have no idea why ducks.

00:50:12They're just fun.

00:50:13I mean, I kind of like ducks.

00:50:14This is a picture of one.

00:50:16Can I show this?

00:50:17Yeah.

00:50:17Okay.

00:50:17Turn my brightness up.

00:50:18Oh, landscape portrait.

00:50:21Oh, it works.

00:50:22All right.

00:50:23Obviously, that's the one.

00:50:24Do you want me to hold it?

00:50:25No, I got it.

00:50:26I can hold it so people can see it.

00:50:28That was a long time ago.

00:50:29He's much bigger now.

00:50:30He's very big and he's actually got wings.

00:50:32Yeah.

00:50:33Well...

00:50:34They're coming in.

00:50:35Yeah.

00:50:37Winglets.

00:50:38He lost the ducks and replaced them with new ones.

00:50:40You know, he doesn't even know the names of the ducks.

00:50:42I don't think he'd be able to find ducks that look like them.

00:50:45Name the four.

00:50:47Okay.

00:50:48There's Inky, Binky, Donkey, and Nod.

00:50:50Snack, Crapple, and Pop.

00:50:51That's way more than four.

00:50:52Oh, right.

00:50:53Sorry.

00:50:53Okay.

00:50:54Pedro?

00:50:55No.

00:50:56Paolo?

00:50:57No.

00:50:58San Paolo?

00:50:59Seriously.

00:51:00And Astarian.

00:51:01Will you not name a duck Astarian?

00:51:05Okay.

00:51:05The names have changed.

00:51:07Okay.

00:51:07The names changed once, and that was like a month ago.

00:51:09I know, but that's a lot of change for me.

00:51:12It was a week after they hatched.

00:51:13Because I...

00:51:13Oh, Bandit?

00:51:15Bandit!

00:51:15Okay, good.

00:51:16And moving on.

00:51:17Let's go back to William and Kevin.

00:51:18We got Bandit, Sonny, Piper, and Penny.

00:51:21Penny used to be Pablo.

00:51:22Piper used to be Pedro.

00:51:24Sonny used to be Daisy until we realized that Sonny might not be a girl.

00:51:27We changed the name to Sonny because we weren't sure.

00:51:29And now Sonny is definitely a boy, but I'm not changing the name again.

00:51:32It's a strange thing, you know.

00:51:33I can remember...

00:51:33And Bandit was always Bandit.

00:51:34Sorry, go ahead.

00:51:35I can remember complex moral or philosophical arguments...

00:51:38And the duck we had for...

00:51:39Excuse me.

00:51:40So I can remember complex philosophical and moral arguments from like 2,000 years ago.

00:51:46But when it comes to duck names, suddenly I'm Joe Biden.

00:51:48I don't know why it is.

00:51:49Do you remember the duck we had for almost two years?

00:51:55Donut?

00:51:56Yeah.

00:51:57Hey, Donut!

00:51:59There we go.

00:52:00All right.

00:52:01Hey, it's Izzy.

00:52:02I really like ducks.

00:52:02I do want to become a duck farmer.

00:52:04Yes.

00:52:04I've mentioned this in previous shows.

00:52:06I do still have the plan at some point that to breed like a duck that's really domestic.

00:52:10So basically pretty...

00:52:12Like the Muscovy ducks, they're very friendly.

00:52:13They're very nice.

00:52:14They're too big.

00:52:15They take too long to mature.

00:52:17Yep.

00:52:17And they are not attractive.

00:52:20Like facially, people don't like the wart.

00:52:22They have like the turkey face.

00:52:23People don't like that stuff.

00:52:24And that comes in when they're older.

00:52:25And what are they called again?

00:52:27I believe it's carinclis.

00:52:28Or conicles.

00:52:29No, carinclis.

00:52:30I think I got it wrong.

00:52:31Carinclis?

00:52:32Carinclis.

00:52:33Oh, carinclis.

00:52:34I've seen it...

00:52:34No, carinclis.

00:52:35Missed opportunity to name one Donald.

00:52:37I know.

00:52:37We did have him named Donald for a bit.

00:52:38It just didn't stick.

00:52:39You know, like I hate to...

00:52:40This sounds so stupid.

00:52:41But like there's some names...

00:52:43It's on gender fluid, I wish.

00:52:45There's some names that just like it didn't stick.

00:52:48Like we wanted to name one of them like Marigold.

00:52:51And we had Lily.

00:52:52We went for the female like flower name.

00:52:54So I just thought that'd be a cute like theme.

00:52:56It just didn't stick.

00:52:57I don't particularly like the names we have right now,

00:52:59but they fit the ducks we have very well.

00:53:03That probably sounds very dumb.

00:53:05So let's see.

00:53:08Sorry, I'm just checking here.

00:53:11Is a waitressing job a good way

00:53:12for a teenage girl to overcome her shyness?

00:53:15No.

00:53:15Would you say your shyness is...

00:53:17I am not shy.

00:53:17Let me tell you, I'm not shy.

00:53:20Waitressing, I definitely want to be waitressing.

00:53:22I'd have to go to a place that doesn't serve alcohol

00:53:24because you have to be 18.

00:53:25I believe also almost every place you have to be 16.

00:53:28So I cannot do that probably until the winter.

00:53:31Unless I just don't, you know, don't say my age.

00:53:33I'm probably...

00:53:34I think I'm actually supposed to be 16

00:53:36at the place I'm working at right now.

00:53:38But apparently, I mean, they don't really care.

00:53:41The owner said I was like really sweet.

00:53:43And the moment she saw me, she wanted to hire me.

00:53:45It's perfectly fine for you to have a job.

00:53:48So yes, there's a question.

00:53:50Do you have to do something?

00:53:51Groupthink is usually dangerous.

00:53:52Sorry, do you have to...

00:53:54Okay, so groupthink is usually dangerous.

00:53:55Okay, come on, guys.

00:53:56Danger!

00:53:57It's a freaking phone, okay?

00:53:59It's not that serious.

00:54:00It's literally not that serious.

00:54:01It's a phone, okay?

00:54:03It's not...

00:54:04Okay, never mind.

00:54:05I'm done.

00:54:06Don't let them troll you.

00:54:07You're trolling me.

00:54:07Rise above.

00:54:08I'm done.

00:54:09Sorry, do you have something?

00:54:11Do you have to do something to their wings

00:54:12so the ducks can't fly away?

00:54:14We've had to in the past.

00:54:16We had two ducks.

00:54:17So we had three ducks.

00:54:19One of them was too fat to fly.

00:54:21I don't actually know why

00:54:22because we gave them all the same amount of food.

00:54:24She was just a really big...

00:54:26She must have just elbowed them aside, right?

00:54:27She was really big as a duckling.

00:54:28She was just huge.

00:54:29She probably was like 15 pounds.

00:54:30I don't even think that was fat.

00:54:31She was just really...

00:54:3215 pounds?

00:54:33Oh, yeah.

00:54:33As a duckling?

00:54:34No, no.

00:54:35That's...

00:54:36What, did she come out of a dinosaur egg?

00:54:38My god, above!

00:54:40That's mad!

00:54:43Should I stop or keep going?

00:54:46Okay, I just announced it.

00:54:47Sorry, please go ahead.

00:54:50You're gonna move me out of the way?

00:54:51Okay.

00:54:52Come back.

00:54:53Sorry.

00:54:56We're good.

00:54:58So we had...

00:55:00She was just always a really big duck.

00:55:02And she also never wanted to fly away.

00:55:03She was very affectionate.

00:55:04She always came to us and stuff like that.

00:55:07But we had two that had an affinity for our neighbor's backyards.

00:55:13Yep.

00:55:14And constantly leaving.

00:55:15So it was a really great way to get to know our neighbors.

00:55:18So we did have...

00:55:18You stole our ducks!

00:55:20We did have to...

00:55:21War is declared!

00:55:22We did have to clip their wings, which they did not appreciate.

00:55:26I believe you held them and I took their wing out.

00:55:27And you just snipped the feathers with a pair of scissors.

00:55:30Like, just get your garden scissors and just snip.

00:55:32And it's funny because I thought...

00:55:33You just have to be careful to watch the blood feathers,

00:55:35which are typically on the edge of the wing and at the base,

00:55:37like where the actual wing attaches to the feathers.

00:55:39So you just have to cut like midway through.

00:55:41Because they're veins in some of the...

00:55:43Yes, those are the blood feathers.

00:55:44And if you do, they will probably bleed out.

00:55:45You have to rip out the whole feather for them not to,

00:55:47which really hurts.

00:55:48And I don't want to do that.

00:55:49So...

00:55:50No, because it's funny.

00:55:51I thought wing clipping was like a big thing,

00:55:53but basically you're just snipping the edge of the feathers.

00:55:56It's called pinioning,

00:55:57which is when they're duckling and you actually cut their wing.

00:55:59Yeah.

00:55:59But I think that's very cruel because that's...

00:56:01I don't know.

00:56:02I just think that's...

00:56:02You're taking away their whole identity as ducks, right?

00:56:04I mean, just because they're a duckling doesn't mean they don't feel pain.

00:56:07You're basically just cutting their wing off.

00:56:08Like, I mean, that's not good.

00:56:09Yeah, that is not good.

00:56:10There are some times where clipping can be a big deal.

00:56:13But don't start to worry.

00:56:14It might be an emu.

00:56:15I guarantee you she was not an emu.

00:56:16I value individually...

00:56:18I value individuality.

00:56:20That being said, I just ordered an iPhone.

00:56:21That's what I think.

00:56:22I think he gets it.

00:56:24Customer service will permanently traumatize you into being shy.

00:56:28I don't think that's true.

00:56:29Look, this is...

00:56:30C2Spark gets it, okay?

00:56:33I think...

00:56:34I think I value...

00:56:35I mean, I value individuality,

00:56:37but I also value, you know...

00:56:40Not...

00:56:40I want to say status because that's not it.

00:56:42I'm not hugely status-oriented.

00:56:44I just found my group of people and they happen to be not like losers, right?

00:56:47Which I'm fortunate about.

00:56:48But I just...

00:56:50I don't know.

00:56:50I just value...

00:56:53I don't know.

00:56:53You get what...

00:56:54You know what?

00:56:54Whatever.

00:56:54I'm done.

00:56:55The words are not wording.

00:56:57Well, so here's the thing.

00:56:58I mean, you had...

00:57:00You've never had an Android tablet.

00:57:02You had...

00:57:03Oh, no.

00:57:04So sorry.

00:57:04Yes, you did.

00:57:05Sorry, but...

00:57:05The only...

00:57:06This is the first non-Android.

00:57:07No, you're right.

00:57:07You're right.

00:57:08So you know the interface.

00:57:09I don't like the interface.

00:57:10I like iPhones.

00:57:11You like...

00:57:11So you like the iPhone interface.

00:57:13I take a lot of photos.

00:57:14I don't particularly care about the quality.

00:57:16So I don't need an iPhone because...

00:57:18iPhones, I think, have terrible quality compared to Android.

00:57:20You also take about 4,000 to 5,000 screenshots an hour.

00:57:24Not as many more.

00:57:25Volvo, BMW.

00:57:26I don't give a crap about cars, but I will tell you BMWs are really ugly.

00:57:29But so are Volvos.

00:57:30Honestly, I don't like either.

00:57:32I think get a truck.

00:57:34Do you care about...

00:57:35You need something to transport the ducks, right?

00:57:36No, not even that.

00:57:37Just trucks are efficient.

00:57:38Just get a big truck.

00:57:39You need a coupe with a jetpack.

00:57:40That is not what I need.

00:57:42A truck.

00:57:43Not like a big shipping truck, but just like maybe either a minivan

00:57:46with like a big back or whatever.

00:57:47Just because...

00:57:48Make it efficient so that you can take like places...

00:57:51Sorry.

00:57:52Take stuff places.

00:57:53Fit a lot of people into the car.

00:57:54You know, if your car only fits five people, it'd be stuck.

00:57:57I know we have a car that only fits five people.

00:57:59So we suck.

00:58:00You get what I'm saying?

00:58:01Yep.

00:58:01I hear what you're saying.

00:58:02So the Duck Farmer...

00:58:04I actually asked this question the other day.

00:58:08I asked this...

00:58:09Stay in Minecraft.

00:58:10Anyways, go ahead.

00:58:11What?

00:58:12Cybertrucks just look like a Minecraft car.

00:58:14Duckmobile.

00:58:15What service?

00:58:15McDonald's workers ignoring...

00:58:17Oh, honestly, it's absolutely terrible.

00:58:18Yeah.

00:58:19So I did actually ask you this the other day.

00:58:22Okay, what's your ideal number of ducks to have on a duck farm?

00:58:25I have no idea.

00:58:26I mean, if I'm doing selective breeding to try and create like the ideal pet duck or whatever,

00:58:32then however many I need, I'll probably order 20, 25 to 30.

00:58:35Yeah, and then breed selectively from there.

00:58:38Take the best options, then just keep going from that.

00:58:41So, I mean, I'm probably going to end up with a lot.

00:58:44Hundreds, right?

00:58:45Maybe a hundred.

00:58:46Any more than that, I'd probably get too chaotic.

00:58:48But I actually know someone who has 300 chickens.

00:58:52Remember we met her and we talked to her?

00:58:54She might...

00:58:54Yeah.

00:58:55But...

00:58:56We got to talk about the chicken hunt.

00:58:59This is probably...

00:59:00This is a truly...

00:59:02To me, this was pretty wild.

00:59:03I went full primal.

00:59:04I went full like Lord of the Flies, ape jungle guy.

00:59:11Okay, so we were driving.

00:59:13Yeah, it doesn't matter where we were driving.

00:59:15And we saw...

00:59:16We saw it too.

00:59:17I saw a chicken on the side of the road.

00:59:19How long do ducks live?

00:59:20It varies from duck in the wild.

00:59:22It also depends whether you're in China or not.

00:59:23Four to 10 years in the wild.

00:59:25That's if you're like a mallard-derived duck.

00:59:28Or I guess there really are little mallards.

00:59:30The wild ones can honestly live less or longer.

00:59:32It really depends.

00:59:33Am I a cool girl or a nerd?

00:59:35I mean, I have some nerdy interests.

00:59:38But overall, I would say I'm on the more part.

00:59:41I'm not like in the popular group,

00:59:43but I'm also not in the nerd group.

00:59:44So I'm kind of in between.

00:59:45I think you're...

00:59:46But you're in the most popular group you want to be in.

00:59:48Yeah, the popular kids, I don't know.

00:59:49I see them a little stereotypical,

00:59:50and I don't really mind that.

00:59:53They're a little bit more conformist.

00:59:54Yeah, I'm not very...

00:59:55We're in the group that's like not nerds,

00:59:57also not quite like...

01:00:00Super cool.

01:00:01But, you know, we're good enough.

01:00:02To me, that's the sweet spot,

01:00:03because the super cool stuff is a bit too confining.

01:00:05I'm very happy with the group I'm in.

01:00:07And for me, I don't particularly care

01:00:08whether we're popular or unpopular.

01:00:09I just want to have good friends.

01:00:10Right.

01:00:12Sorry, we also...

01:00:13We were back to duck length.

01:00:14So in domesticated ducks...

01:00:15Domesticated ducks, the longest one, I believe, is 44 years.

01:00:18But on average...

01:00:1910 to 15?

01:00:2015 to 25.

01:00:2115 to 25.

01:00:22Yeah, so you're investing.

01:00:24Oh, yeah, you're going in for it.

01:00:26So my question was,

01:00:28how many ducks would it take

01:00:29for you to not name them individually?

01:00:31I wouldn't.

01:00:32And the answer is...

01:00:33If there were some ducks

01:00:34that I just didn't particularly care about,

01:00:36then I might not,

01:00:37because those ones are probably going to get sold anyways.

01:00:39Right.

01:00:39But I'd probably name at least 80% of them.

01:00:42Right.

01:00:42And the funny thing is that you would actually...

01:00:45Like, I'd name them.

01:00:47Sure.

01:00:48But would I be able to tell who was named?

01:00:50But you would actually remember based on the patterns.

01:00:53We had one time where...

01:00:54It was a whole long story,

01:00:55but we had to give our ducks to a different farm

01:00:56for a certain amount of time.

01:00:58We didn't see them for probably eight months.

01:01:00And I came back,

01:01:01and it was a flock of white muscovies.

01:01:03And I picked out the three white muscovies we had.

01:01:05Right away.

01:01:06Immediately.

01:01:06I saw them as we were driving in.

01:01:08And there were at least 40 to 50 ducks.

01:01:10I think because the men were hunting,

01:01:11and the women were doing the domesticated stuff,

01:01:13I think that's just a talent.

01:01:14Yeah, maybe.

01:01:15I mean, I know some...

01:01:17I mean, my friends can recognize the ducks, but like...

01:01:19So let's talk about the day of the hunt.

01:01:22The day of the hunt.

01:01:23The blood sport.

01:01:24Have you ever hanged with mean girls?

01:01:25Yes, I did actually for a bit.

01:01:27No, never again.

01:01:27That's why I'm kind of friends with guys.

01:01:28I hate to be one of those girls,

01:01:30but like, I don't want the drama, okay?

01:01:31It's not that serious.

01:01:33Drama!

01:01:33I mean, I hang out with...

01:01:34Like, there's girls in the group

01:01:35that I definitely hang out with a lot.

01:01:36Yeah.

01:01:37But I'm primarily like...

01:01:38I'll do like...

01:01:39I'll play a lot of Minecraft and stuff with the guys and stuff,

01:01:41and just other games sometimes, so...

01:01:43But the girls don't really do that.

01:01:44The girls...

01:01:45I don't know.

01:01:46I like them a lot.

01:01:46They're not super...

01:01:47I mean, they're very nice people,

01:01:48but they're not super active.

01:01:49They're just kind of like...

01:01:50Don't do anything.

01:01:51What the heck is that?

01:01:52That looks like you, but with hair.

01:01:55A little bit, yeah.

01:01:57Okay, so...

01:01:57It's like a meme.

01:02:00Oh, it's a whole thing.

01:02:03All right.

01:02:07Okay, that's a politics thing.

01:02:10So we were driving, and we were kind of in a country road,

01:02:14and we saw chickens in the deep woods.

01:02:17Singular chickens.

01:02:18You saw a chicken.

01:02:18It was on the side of the road.

01:02:19And it was on the left side.

01:02:21And on the left side, there's like a little bit of grass,

01:02:23and then forest.

01:02:23Just straight up, like, totally natural forest, right?

01:02:26Yeah.

01:02:27So we thought that they were escaped,

01:02:30or maybe they fell off a truck or something like that.

01:02:33So we wanted to go and help them into a pot.

01:02:36No, we just wanted to go and help them.

01:02:38We had nets in the car.

01:02:39Yeah, because we had gone from a river walk to get crayfish and fish, right?

01:02:43So my heart began pounding almost immediately,

01:02:46because I went into full primal, old staff, Irish-German hunting mode.

01:02:52We actually found two, and then we lost them,

01:02:54and then you found them again.

01:02:55I saw them again, yeah.

01:02:56And I almost got them at that point, and we never got them.

01:02:59And it was so thick in there.

01:03:01Like, it was a kind of bush, because I used to work up north, of course.

01:03:04It was crazy.

01:03:05You're falling logs, you've got swamps, squishy stuff, scratchy branches everywhere.

01:03:10Yeah, yeah.

01:03:10You could slip through that like a tadpole.

01:03:13Yeah, whereas I was sort of crashing through it, like, I don't know.

01:03:18Yeah, sure.

01:03:19In a nice way, that's a good tip.

01:03:20Oh, a tip.

01:03:20Yeah, yeah.

01:03:21Thank you.

01:03:24Merci du fond de coeur.

01:03:26All right.

01:03:27Tip.

01:03:27All right.

01:03:28Let's say, you know what?

01:03:29Let's say all the tips in the next 10 minutes go to Iz.

01:03:32How's that?

01:03:32No, I'm working.

01:03:33I don't need this.

01:03:34All right.

01:03:34I mean, I'd appreciate it, but no.

01:03:36Okay, let's say 10 minutes.

01:03:37Oh, all the tips.

01:03:39I actually have got to go in probably really soon, because I have to get ready.

01:03:41Yeah, yeah.

01:03:41Okay.

01:03:41I've been working one.

01:03:42It's like a bit of a drive, and I, you know, get ready.

01:03:44So, you do actually...

01:03:45They make me wear shirts.

01:03:46What?

01:03:46They're making me wear the merch shirt.

01:03:48Oh, yeah.

01:03:49Or not the merch shirt, whatever.

01:03:51Izzy, do you like traveling?

01:03:52Not at all.

01:03:53You really don't?

01:03:53I hate traveling.

01:03:54I hate traveling.

01:03:56Hi, Izzy.

01:03:57I'm now 30 and a woman, and I followed you since you were three.

01:04:00I love hearing how fun and interesting you are.

01:04:02Oh, that's really sweet.

01:04:03Thank you.

01:04:03That's very nice.

01:04:05Very nice.

01:04:06Anyways, the chickens.

01:04:06Yeah, we didn't end up catching them, but here's the embarrassing part.

01:04:09So, we went to a few people on the street, and we were like, do you guys have chickens?

01:04:13Yeah.

01:04:13Because we found some.

01:04:14Yeah.

01:04:14They were all like, no, but that's nice of you for asking, whatever, right?

01:04:16Yeah.

01:04:17And then we go back to our car.

01:04:19Right across the street, there's a giant chicken farm and a whole bunch of chickens

01:04:23on the other side of the road.

01:04:27Now, theoretically, we wouldn't have spent 45 minutes getting the living

01:04:31heck scratched out of her skin.

01:04:33No, not scratched.

01:04:34My arm was like here.

01:04:37It's kind of gone, but-

01:04:40Show remains of arm.

01:04:42This here was like genuinely a lump.

01:04:44Yeah.

01:04:45Like, it looked like a tumor, and it was, I don't even know what the heck bit me.

01:04:48Oh, it could have been some sort of plant venom.

01:04:50It didn't even, no, it was a bite.

01:04:51Like, it was a chunk out.

01:04:53But like, I have no idea what the heck that was.

01:04:57It wasn't itchy.

01:04:57It was just, it just hurt.

01:04:59And I just went into, if we don't catch this, my family will starve to death.

01:05:04Like, it just became completely primal, absolutely insane, and deeply enjoyable.

01:05:09No, of course, we just, we wanted to take them and get them, well, and also see if we could

01:05:13find out their home and all that kind of stuff, right?

01:05:16But it was, yeah, it was something else.

01:05:18Like, I don't know if you've ever done that hunting stuff, right?

01:05:21Not a human skull, but like an animal skull.

01:05:22Yeah, you found a skull.

01:05:24We still have it.

01:05:24It's in the garage.

01:05:25Yeah.

01:05:26We don't know what it is, but it's big.

01:05:27I think it's a fox or coyote skull.

01:05:29Well, I don't know, because it has to be, I don't even know if it's a skull,

01:05:31because there's no teeth on it.

01:05:34Oh, it's a top part, like, no lower jaw?

01:05:36Yeah.

01:05:36Oh, no, no.

01:05:37No, there's no, like, jaw, there's no teeth on it.

01:05:39So I originally thought it was a skull, but now I'm thinking it's just like mysterious.

01:05:41It's a cartoon dragon skull.

01:05:44Because it's no teeth, which means we would call it, oh, what do we call it?

01:05:49Toothless.

01:05:50Toothless.

01:05:51How does that ring a bell?

01:05:52I don't want a job.

01:05:54That's my dream job.

01:05:54No, I'm kidding.

01:05:56Duck.

01:05:57What duck?

01:05:58Duck farmer.

01:05:59Yeah.

01:05:59I mean, I want to be on a farm, but I mean, probably I'm going to be spending a good chunk

01:06:02of my time being, like, stay-at-home mom, because I do plan to have kids and stuff.

01:06:05So.

01:06:06Right.

01:06:06I'm relatively young.

01:06:07When I find a guy, I mean.

01:06:09Did you guys take the chick-ken home?

01:06:12Oh, chick-ken?

01:06:14I thought that was chic-ken, like in Ken and Barbie.

01:06:17No, we didn't catch them.

01:06:19Like, they were, you touched them.

01:06:21No, with the net.

01:06:22But the grasses were too high and my net broke because it was a dollar store net for, like,

01:06:26two dollars.

01:06:27Yeah.

01:06:27Those nets are crazy.

01:06:28So, what happened was, it was thick grass.

01:06:30So, of course, with thick grass, when you take the net and you put it down on the chickens,

01:06:33they just go under.

01:06:34If I had just lunged at it, I definitely could have caught it.

01:06:36Right.

01:06:36But since at this point, my wrist still hurt pretty bad and it still hurts.

01:06:39Okay.

01:06:40You know what hurts my wrist, like, crazy?

01:06:42At my job, they gave me napkins and things to fold.

01:06:44Like, you know, when you get the napkins that are, like, folded around the cutlery with

01:06:47the little tie on them?

01:06:48Yeah.

01:06:48That hurts.

01:06:49Oh, wow.

01:06:50Which is crazy because those things, I broke it, like, four months ago, three months ago

01:06:53or something.

01:06:53I don't even know.

01:06:53It was, like, late April.

01:06:54But the cast has been off for over a month and it still hurts.

01:06:58Yeah.

01:06:58Bone stuff takes a while, man.

01:07:00And it's good to have it when you're young.

01:07:01But, I mean, honestly, it doesn't bother me.

01:07:03I can do everything day-to-day life.

01:07:05No rocks.

01:07:05I'm not throwing a rock at a chicken, bro.

01:07:06I'm just throwing a rock at a chicken.

01:07:08Okay.

01:07:09Sorry.

01:07:09We wanted to catch the chickens.

01:07:11Just specify that we were not going to eat them.

01:07:14We just specified we wanted them alive, man.

01:07:16Come on.

01:07:16Okay.

01:07:17So, Joe, the fact that you...

01:07:19Joe Viva.

01:07:20Joe Mama.

01:07:21Sorry.

01:07:22The fact that you wanted to immediately throw rocks at the chickens is probably something

01:07:27like...

01:07:29It's a confession of childhood upset, let's just say.

01:07:32I have a question.

01:07:33Yeah.

01:07:34The comment says, Rocky, I and Mickey had Rocky chasing a chicken.

01:07:39Oh, so that's a Rocky first.

01:07:41Oh, so...

01:07:42Oh, gosh, this is way old.

01:07:44There was a boxing movie written by a guy named Sylvester Stallone.

01:07:47I don't think we've ever seen him in a movie.

01:07:49Now, Sylvester Stallone was offered a million dollars for the script, and he said, no, I

01:07:54don't want the million dollars.

01:07:55I want to star in it.

01:07:55And they're like, we don't even know who you are.

01:07:57Why would we...

01:07:58We're not going to fund a movie anyway, but they desperately wanted the script.

01:08:01They offered him, and he was broke, literally living on people's couches.

01:08:04And he said, no, I want to...

01:08:05So he ended up starring in the movie, became one of the biggest movie stars in the 80s and 90s,

01:08:10and built his whole career off that.

01:08:13And in it, he plays a guy who wants to become a boxer.

01:08:16And the trainer has him chase a chicken to make his footwork better.

01:08:21Oh, nice.

01:08:21Because he's got no money, right?

01:08:22So how are you going to train?

01:08:24You can't even get into a gym.

01:08:25So he had him chase a chicken.

01:08:26And I think that's the scene that's being talked about.

01:08:28Okay, sorry.

01:08:29I thought you said Rocky I.

01:08:29Because they were like, Rocky...

01:08:30You know, and Rocky went on and on.

01:08:32They were like Rocky V, like he just went on and on.

01:08:34It was a whole franchise.

01:08:40That's the Mario theme song.

01:08:41It's not the Mario theme song.

01:08:45Izzy, what's your favorite sport?

01:08:47It's baiting Android users.

01:08:49That is your favorite sport.

01:08:50Come on, let's reopen the wound.

01:08:51Okay.

01:08:52Go on.

01:08:53I like chicken hunting.

01:08:55No, I'm kidding.

01:08:56Probably volleyball.

01:08:57I mean, I'm not a huge sports person.

01:08:59For me, I find I get more exercise, honestly, just going for runs or walks or whatever.

01:09:05But yeah, I'd say volleyball.

01:09:06If I do play sports, I enjoy volleyball a lot.

01:09:10Except for, and we won't put the gender in here.

01:09:14But the one thing that troubles me just a little bit, just a tiny bit.

01:09:18It's subtle.

01:09:19Izzy doesn't even know this.

01:09:20No idea.

01:09:21But one of the things that troubles me just a tiny bit is when people say,

01:09:26I want to play volleyball without adding in the manner of a potted plant.

01:09:33In other words, the ball comes and you just stand there.

01:09:36I used to be in a volleyball team.

01:09:39I do not.

01:09:40People don't have to be Pearl Davis.

01:09:42They don't have to be-

01:09:42Without gender.

01:09:43When it goes to it, it hiss it, but it stands there when it pronoun.

01:09:51Right.

01:09:52There is, and Izzy's approach to volleyball is there's nothing I won't aim for.

01:09:56There's nothing I won't try for.

01:09:58My arms come out actually bruised.

01:10:00Yeah, yeah.

01:10:01You will actually remove an arm and throw it at the ball.

01:10:03I would, too.

01:10:04Yeah, absolutely.

01:10:04I could not use, obviously, one arm was not really functioning, but the other one,

01:10:09completely red and bruised afterwards, which is okay.

01:10:12I'll take it.

01:10:13I mean, I'll heal.

01:10:14That game, I might heal physically, but if I lose that game, my mental ego will be crushed.

01:10:20Yeah.

01:10:21That will never heal.

01:10:22Your body heals.

01:10:23Ego bruises are forever.

01:10:24Yes.

01:10:25I've probably got to go and get like-

01:10:26All right.

01:10:27Okay.

01:10:27Well, thank you, Izzy.

01:10:28Appreciate it.

01:10:29Thank you everyone for the show.

01:10:30It was only supposed to be like 20 minutes, but we stayed, so-

01:10:32That was great.

01:10:32Well, I had some great questions and I appreciate your answers.

01:10:34Go have fun at work.

01:10:35Stay in touch.

01:10:36All right.

01:10:36Bye.

01:10:37Love you.

01:10:38All right.

01:10:39So, are you tall enough to spike your block?

01:10:41No, she's not really, but that's all right.

01:10:43Okay.

01:10:43So, let me get back to here.

01:10:45Thank you, everybody.

01:10:46Izzy had, she was like, hey, why don't we do a live stream?

01:10:49And that was great.

01:10:49I'm glad she did.

01:10:50Lots of fun.

01:10:51All right.

01:10:52Sorry.

01:10:52Let me just-

01:10:54Everyone's saying bye.

01:10:56All right.

01:10:58Sorry.

01:10:58Let me just get this back in here.

01:11:00I'll try and do it without completely murdering your ears.

01:11:03There we go.

01:11:04Okay.

01:11:06Excellent.

01:11:07All right.

01:11:09Yeah.

01:11:09I will say bye and thanks to everyone.

01:11:11If you are enjoying watching, of course, freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.

01:11:16I would really, really appreciate it.

01:11:18These are the fruits of peaceful parenting.

01:11:19So, this is a girl, she's going to be 16 this year, of course.

01:11:22So, she's in her mid-teens.

01:11:24And as I'm sure you remember me saying many moons ago, parenting is all about the teenage

01:11:31years.

01:11:31Like, everything you do with parenting is related to how things are going to go in the

01:11:35teenage years.

01:11:36And, of course, I think you can see and sort of understand that it really does help out,

01:11:45right?

01:11:45I mean, we have a great relationship.

01:11:47She's a lot of fun.

01:11:48And the teenage years, everybody was like, ooh, the terrible twos.

01:11:53We had no terrible twos.

01:11:54Everyone's like, oh, the teenage years.

01:11:56We're having a great time in her teenage years.

01:11:58And she's, you know, having a great time at her job and she's doing great stuff and all

01:12:02of that.

01:12:03So, she's really good at her work and she's just a real, as you can see, it's a great

01:12:13delight.

01:12:14We have a huge amount of fun.

01:12:15So, I'm just saying that the peaceful parenting stuff, it's not a demo, right?

01:12:19Because she's not like a lab rat or something like that.

01:12:22But it is sort of, this is not fake, right?

01:12:24This is sort of how we have fun.

01:12:28All right, so let's see here.

01:12:30Great chat.

01:12:30Have a good day.

01:12:31Peace out.

01:12:32She seriously still loves you just as crazy much.

01:12:34It's beautiful and I'm so happy for you.

01:12:35Yeah, she's, I mean, she's honestly, she's, you know, with my wife and her, they're just

01:12:41my favorite people in the whole world.

01:12:43And I am just so enormously blessed and privileged.

01:12:47I know I've earned it and all of that, but I just, you know, in all great humility and

01:12:51honesty, I just feel so incredibly blessed and privileged to be able to go through my

01:12:57life with such wonderful people.

01:12:58I mean, it's great having an audience here and it's great having these people in my life

01:13:02and in my heart.

01:13:03And I am as blessed as a human being can possibly be to have such great companions for my life.

01:13:11And I, of course, I wish you, if you have this, congratulations.

01:13:15If you don't, I wish you and will do everything in my power to try and get this to you.

01:13:21I want to share the blessings that philosophy has given to me.

01:13:26And this is why the call-in shows to me are so important, because whatever I can do to

01:13:31help share what I have been able to earn and achieve, I will move heaven and earth to try

01:13:38and get it to everyone.

01:13:39And that's part of what I do in the show.

01:13:41And that is my life, right?

01:13:46I mean, that is my life.

01:13:47We spent time with her ducks this morning and chatting away.

01:13:51And then I had to come in and do the show and she's like, hey, let's do a live stream.

01:13:55And that's right.

01:13:57All right.

01:14:00So, peacefulparenting.com, check that out.

01:14:03Now I have a Steph question.

01:14:04What are your thoughts on the song In the Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics?

01:14:08From what I can tell, you and her mother seem to have done a great job raising her.

01:14:11I appreciate that.

01:14:13Every time you do a show with Izzy, I get an intense motivation to get married and start a

01:14:16family, to give my kids a blessing I didn't have.

01:14:18Right, right, right.

01:14:20Well, I mean, I'm a guy who grew up without a father.

01:14:24And every time I had any contact with my father, it was unbelievably awkward and deeply weird.

01:14:32So, that is...

01:14:36Putting my hands on my dad's face like that at that age is unimaginable to me.

01:14:40Well, it's funny.

01:14:41It's funny.

01:14:42So, the song In the Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics.

01:14:45So, you know what's kind of funny?

01:14:50What's kind of funny?

01:14:51So, Mike and the Mechanics is a band that's...

01:14:53It's the guitarist, I think, from Genesis.

01:14:55Now, the funny thing is, is that the song, which I could have told you in the living

01:15:02years, it's beautifully sung.

01:15:04And I was like, holy crap, why would Phil Collins be the singer?

01:15:11Who's a fine singer too, but why would Phil Collins be the singer if the guitarist can

01:15:14sing like that?

01:15:16But I think it's another guy who, they said, this guy can sing the phone book.

01:15:21It's another guy who sang, not anyone from Genesis.

01:15:26Because I was like, my gosh, if you have a singer like that.

01:15:32So, let me just refresh myself in the lyrics.

01:15:37The song is lovely.

01:15:38The song is lovely.

01:15:46It's beautifully sung.

01:15:47It's very nice.

01:15:49Done.

01:15:50Every generation blames the ones before and all of their frustrations come beating on

01:15:54your door.

01:15:55I know that I'm a prisoner to all my father held so dear.

01:15:57I know that I'm a hostage to all his hopes and fears.

01:16:00I just wish I could have told him in the living years.

01:16:03So, every generation blames the ones before and all of their frustrations come beating

01:16:06on your door.

01:16:07So, there's a certain amount of mechanical, metronome, hamster wheel.

01:16:15It's inevitable.

01:16:16And I really dislike that as a message as a whole.

01:16:20Every generation blames the ones before.

01:16:22Well, of course, that's just not true because a lot of people are like, well, my parents

01:16:25hit me and they were right for it and I respect my elders, so they don't do that, right?

01:16:31I know that I'm a prisoner to all my father held so dear.

01:16:34I know that I'm a hostage to all his hopes and fears.

01:16:38So, prisoner and hostage, this inevitability, there's a determinism to this that I don't

01:16:43like.

01:16:43And it makes people feel very sad and nostalgic and tragic to think about the inevitability

01:16:50of all of this stuff.

01:16:51And if I would say, oh my gosh, it's so impossible for me to know how to be a father because

01:16:59I was raised without a father and it's so impossible.

01:17:02I'm trapped by my mother's craziness and her violence and I'm helpless.

01:17:07It makes you feel sad and sentimental and weepy, but it's a completely tragic lie that

01:17:14guarantees a repetition of abuse.

01:17:18So, he says, crumple bits of paper filled with imperfect thought, stilted conversations.

01:17:22I'm afraid that's all we've got.

01:17:26So, he says, I just wish I could have told him in the living years.

01:17:28Well, you could have.

01:17:30So, I wish I could have told him.

01:17:32Could is an ambivalent word here, right?

01:17:34Because you could say, I just wish I'd chosen to tell him.

01:17:40I just wish I could have, there's an impossibility.

01:17:42Well, I can't, I just couldn't.

01:17:43And it's like, no, you could.

01:17:45You absolutely could, right?

01:17:46I have this scene in my novel, The Present, where Rachel finally shows her father the

01:17:54appreciation for all of his work in her childhood.

01:17:56So, she can do it.

01:17:59You say, you just don't see it.

01:18:00He says, it's perfect sense.

01:18:01You just can't get agreement.

01:18:02In this present tense, we all talk a different language, talking in defense.

01:18:08Say it loud, say it clear.

01:18:09You can listen as well as you hear.

01:18:11It's too late when we die to admit we don't see eye to eye.

01:18:16So, there's this inevitability.

01:18:18Oh, I couldn't have.

01:18:18It's so tragic.

01:18:19It's so sad.

01:18:20And people cry about this kind of stuff.

01:18:22And it's like, all of it was a choice.

01:18:24To speak, to not to speak, to open your heart, to close your heart, to be direct.

01:18:28I mean, the amount of time, fuck.

01:18:32The amount of time that people waste talking about garbage, garbage and trivia and nonsense

01:18:38and weather and sports and bunions and gardening and jobs and money and trash and crap and

01:18:44nonsense.

01:18:46If we spoke heart to heart about what really matters to us with people, we'd be functionally

01:18:50immortal because people waste their precious existence dealing with policy labbing, bullshit,

01:18:56nonsense, empty hearted, trivial crap.

01:19:03I would rather be in the grave 10 years earlier than have to spend the rest of my life

01:19:09dealing with detritus and trivia and nonsense and crap.

01:19:16Oh, so-and-so did such and such and then she's all and then he's all and then this sports

01:19:20team did well.

01:19:21And can you believe Joe Biden did this?

01:19:22And the weather of this is kind of unseasonably hot for this one.

01:19:26We already caught some good fish yesterday, boy.

01:19:28That was good, good biting, good fishing.

01:19:31Yesterday, I've got a bit of an ache in my right hip, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

01:19:34And your father is this and oh my God, oh my God, the trivia, the trivia.

01:19:40I was taking out a coffee cup yesterday and it was a coffee cup that my daughter had made

01:19:44for me when she was very little.

01:19:45It's got dad and she painted it and all of that.

01:19:48And I thought, you know, well, one day, one day, right, either I'm going to drop it and

01:19:53break it or it's going to drop and break and it'll be like, oh no, this cup, right?

01:19:57And then, or, or, you know, you know, I'm going to get old, I'm going to die.

01:20:02Maybe my daughter will keep it or whatever, but it'll go in some basement and at some

01:20:05point it'll just be this ugly cup with the word dad on the side, right?

01:20:09All of the meaning will have evaporated along with my bones into the atmosphere.

01:20:13And I remember thinking like, people get mad about dropping or breaking family heirlooms

01:20:21and things like that.

01:20:22Oh my gosh, that was the cup your grandmother gave me.

01:20:25And oh my gosh, that was the plate that your aunt, your great aunt gave me before she died.

01:20:30And it's like, so people get mad at losing family heirlooms, but they don't get mad at

01:20:38losing years of their life to frothy bubble headed nonsense, pine river pollution, crap,

01:20:48nonsense, emptiness, nothing, nothingness.

01:20:53Oh, we just, we just, we just can't talk or we can't, we don't see eye to eye.

01:20:58It's like, so you can't talk when they're alive and you regret it after they die.

01:21:05So he says, so we open up a quarrel between the present and the past.

01:21:07We only sacrifice the future.

01:21:09It's the bitterness that lasts.

01:21:12So don't yield to the fortunes you sometimes see too late.

01:21:16It may have a new perspective on a different day.

01:21:18And if you don't give up and don't give in, you may just be okay.

01:21:21It doesn't mean anything.

01:21:22Don't give up, don't give in, may just be okay.

01:21:23What does that mean?

01:21:27I wasn't there that morning when my father passed away.

01:21:29I didn't get to tell him all the things I had to say.

01:21:32I think I called the spirit later that same year.

01:21:34I'm sure I heard the echo.

01:21:35I'm sure I heard his echo in my baby's newborn tears.

01:21:39I just wish I could have told him in the living years, but you chose not to.

01:21:46So this is demonic, right?

01:21:47This is saying, I did not teach him.

01:21:52I did not speak the truth to him.

01:21:54I just wish I could have.

01:21:55It's like, you chose not to.

01:21:57And maybe you did tell the truth to him.

01:22:01Maybe you did tell the truth to him and he just fought and gaslit you.

01:22:05And all of that.

01:22:14Now there's also one, a revival.

01:22:21Gosh, what's the song called?

01:22:33What's it called?

01:22:36Someday you'll understand.

01:22:42Yeah.

01:22:42Someday, as it someday you'll understand.

01:22:47Someday never comes.

01:22:48Sorry.

01:22:48Someday never comes.

01:22:50See, do we have our, our lyrics here?

01:22:57First thing I remember was asking Papa why, for there were many things I didn't know.

01:23:05And Daddy always smiled, took me by the hand, saying someday you'll understand.

01:23:14Well, I'm here to tell you now, each and every mother's son,

01:23:17you better learn it fast.

01:23:18You better learn it young, cause someday never comes.

01:23:26The time and tears went by and I collected dust, for there were many things I didn't know.

01:23:35And Daddy went away, said try to be a man, and someday you'll understand.

01:23:46Well, I'm here to tell you now, each and every mother's son,

01:23:49you better learn it fast.

01:23:50You better learn it young, cause someday never comes.

01:23:56And then one day in April, I wasn't even there, for there were many things I didn't know.

01:24:05A son was born to me, Mama held his hand, saying someday you'll understand.

01:24:15I think it was September, the year I went away, for there were many things I didn't know.

01:24:24And still I stay, and still I see him standing,

01:24:27trying to be a man, I said someday you'll understand.

01:24:33Well, I'm here to tell you now, each and every mother's son,

01:24:37you better learn it fast.

01:24:38You better learn it young, cause someday never comes.

01:24:44Oh, someday never comes.

01:24:49And that song, you know, kind of cracked my heart when I first heard it.

01:24:55Time and tears went by and I collected dust, for there were many things I didn't know.

01:25:01Yeah, someday you'll understand, someday it'll all become clear,

01:25:04and that's the devil speaking.

01:25:05The devil speaks and says, you'll understand, it'll come to you,

01:25:10and you don't have to work for it, and you'll just, it'll happen to you,

01:25:14and someday never comes.

01:25:15And of course, the Pogedi brothers ended up fighting like literal demons over their band,

01:25:20and spent years or decades in court, and just horrible, horrible stuff.

01:25:25All right.

01:25:37All right.

01:25:43A Calvinist view, yeah, I think it is.

01:25:45Dad gone 22 years, never one for having deep thoughts,

01:25:48watched movies, did not read books for fun.

01:25:50That sentimentality can take decades off a life.

01:25:53Yeah, true.

01:25:55Now his taste in music, movies, and cars rubbed off on me.

01:25:58There were good memories, but that does not change him being a monster in my mind.

01:26:01I feared to wake even after he passed.

01:26:03In real life, he grew up where he worked nights.

01:26:06In real life, grew up where he worked nights.

01:26:08If he was woken before noon, that was big trouble, yeah.

01:26:16Steph, if you made a CD, I swear to God, I'd listen to it.

01:26:18Oh, thank you.

01:26:24So, I can't, I get a panic.

01:26:32I mean, I'll be completely honest with you guys, as I always try to be.

01:26:36In my heart, and in my soul, and in my spine, if I live that helium trivia nonsense, and again,

01:26:43goofing around and having fun is enjoyable, and there's nothing wrong with that.

01:26:47I mean, so I'm not saying everything's got to be a deep examination of nature,

01:26:51truth, morality, and reality.

01:26:53But if I live on that surface stuff for too long, I begin to panic.

01:26:59I feel this existential agony.

01:27:06Like, life is moving ahead and I'm being left behind.

01:27:09Or, you know, if I'm not getting along with someone and I need to deal with it,

01:27:14I can't sleep.

01:27:15I just feel this general oof about all of that.

01:27:23The song Disarm by Smashing Pumpkins hits me pretty hard.

01:27:29It's about child abuse.

01:27:30Thank you.

01:27:31I will check that out.

01:27:36Southern Dads, right?

01:27:38Creedence Clearwater Revival, the southern band, right?

01:27:41And Southern Dads, it's really rough, right?

01:27:43Yeah, it was good singing for sure.

01:27:44I think you'd be great on some Irish songs.

01:27:46Oh, thank you.

01:27:47The singing is not about...

01:27:48I mean, I don't have a great voice, but if you connect with the material,

01:27:52it can communicate what needs to be communicated.

01:27:56But thank you, I appreciate the compliments.

01:27:59So, yeah, this sense of tragedy and inevitability.

01:28:05I chose to get out of my youthful relationships with no regrets.

01:28:15I don't look back and say, I should have, I should have, I should have.

01:28:19I mean, with very few exceptions, if I liked a girl, I'd ask her out.

01:28:23Sometimes she said yes, sometimes she'd say no, but at least there's no looking back with regret.

01:28:30And let me ask you this, let me ask you this.

01:28:34Do you ever go back and check up on people from your youth?

01:28:38I mean, it's a funny thing now, because you can do it fairly easily with social media.

01:28:41Do you ever do that, where you just go back in time, so to speak, as a time travel?

01:28:46And there's something about the mid to late 50s that childhood is coming back pretty hard for me.

01:28:51Like this portal is opening up, and I'm just seeing it all again very sort of clearly and vividly,

01:28:56but without that sort of sense of horror and fear, but just more like an anthropologist

01:29:00and an examination.

01:29:01And there really are some things that I miss about my early to mid teens, for sure.

01:29:08Do you ever see what has the arc of life been like for people as a whole, right?

01:29:14Especially as you get older, you look up old girlfriends.

01:29:18So especially as you get older, you see the arc so clearly.

01:29:30You see the arc so clearly.

01:29:34I mean, the woman I dated before I got married,

01:29:38I mean, I guess I wasn't enough for her, or she wanted...

01:29:48I remember her saying that her ideal man was like David Beckham or something like that,

01:29:53because he's wealthy and handsome, and obviously has a great physique and all of that.

01:29:58And I'm like, first of all, don't talk about that stuff with boyfriends.

01:30:03Like just ladies as a whole, just don't do it.

01:30:06Just don't talk about your ideal.

01:30:08Because then you just obviously, you feel like leftovers.

01:30:13You feel like they're settling, right?

01:30:16So she had this ideal, and she was older than me.

01:30:20And so we ended up...

01:30:22I can't even remember, it's so long ago now, like a quarter century.

01:30:25I can't really remember how it ended, but it just kind of petered out because she wanted

01:30:29something better.

01:30:31Now, of course, I was her last chance for kids, no question of that, right?

01:30:35And anyway, so we broke up, and I met my wife and got married.

01:30:45Anyway, so a couple of years later, I was on a business trip, and I ran into her.

01:30:52I was on my way to a business trip, and I ran into her, and she was just doing some

01:30:55customer service job, and she glanced at my ring.

01:30:59And I just felt this wave of like sort of sadness or regret, because she wasn't married,

01:31:05and she was just working a dead-end job, not any kind of career.

01:31:08And she was now obviously past the time where she could have kids, and it was like, oof.

01:31:22CCR were from California, but yes, the sand was called Southern.

01:31:25Don't know if anyone really knows why.

01:31:29They're from California?

01:31:32Because they sang in a Southern accent, right?

01:31:35You better learn it fast, you better learn it, right?

01:31:37Yeah, it's interesting.

01:31:42Maybe the family was Southern, the family background, because they sang with a Southern

01:31:46accent, right?

01:31:47And the theme's a fortunate son, right, is a Southern theme, which is regret about the

01:31:57military, because the military in America generally comes from the South, which is why

01:32:01when you lose the South, you lose your military, which is why alienating the South, which is

01:32:04what Democrats seem to want to do, is a form of crippling the military, but anyway.

01:32:10Down on the corner is a Southern, right?

01:32:12So, yeah, so it is, it's very sad.

01:32:22It's very sad.

01:32:23And for women, of course, I mean, Kevin Samuels is really good at unpacking this sort of regret

01:32:29stuff.

01:32:32Personally, I like ex-boyfriends to have a wonderful life with a wonderful wife and kids,

01:32:36otherwise I'd worry I had ruined their life.

01:32:38Huh.

01:32:41Yeah, I don't want that.

01:32:46I want people who hurt me to fail in life, and I take satisfaction when they do, right?

01:32:57I take a certain amount of pleasure when people who've done me great harm fall upon hard times.

01:33:12Sure, sure.

01:33:16I don't have any particular opinion about that in myself, it's just something that I note.

01:33:22Now, it's funny because it's not like I desperately want bad things to happen to them,

01:33:25it's not like I check up on them or whatever, but if I hear,

01:33:28oh, you know, so-and-so was really mean to me, and now this bad thing has happened,

01:33:32I'm like, oh, that's all right, I'm fine with that, that's good.

01:33:38So what are people saying?

01:33:42But you understand, if ex-boyfriends have a wonderful life with a wonderful wife and kids,

01:33:46then they're capable of that, just weren't with you, right?

01:33:50Which is not great for you.

01:33:52I checked on a lady from college who rejected me, she's now a single mom.

01:34:00It's worse, my best friend, who was a single soul with mine from the age of six,

01:34:08is now someone who says things like, well, this generation is full of asshole kids,

01:34:11so maybe they need the spanking.

01:34:12And I've tried to share all the information about peaceful parenting with her,

01:34:15and it feels like she gets bored or confused that it matters to me.

01:34:18It's heartbreaking.

01:34:19This past week, I had a conversation with my older brother who was a minister,

01:34:21and she had academic meta-analysis, and he got defensive AF.

01:34:26But if they turned things around and became good, you would be happy?

01:34:31If they turned things around and became good, you would be happy?

01:34:38Well, I mean, I had a conversation some months ago with a fellow who had a big hate-on for me

01:34:44and trolled me for years, and then he had turned around.

01:34:47And I'm certainly happy if people turn things around, but it doesn't undo the damage.

01:34:55Right?

01:34:57This is why you don't do bad things, or if you do, you catch yourself and fix it right away.

01:35:03Because you can't undo the damage.

01:35:07Honestly, I think I hurt Max's boyfriends more than they hurt me,

01:35:09so maybe that's the difference.

01:35:11Yeah, when Kevin Samuels died, many people celebrated his death.

01:35:14Yeah, for sure.

01:35:21Yeah, Kevin Samuels was, I mean, an amazing man, and I've learned a huge amount from him,

01:35:26and I listened to him for quite a while, off and on.

01:35:29And, you know, a very, very good debater, very firm, very clear, a fantastic communicator,

01:35:35and a wildly original thinker, to me.

01:35:38Right?

01:35:39So he's like, well, women decide who gets born, and women decide who gets sex,

01:35:44but men decide who gets married.

01:35:47I mean, that's like a thunderclap, right?

01:35:49That is a thunderclap.

01:35:55Oh, it's like that song,

01:35:57Bet you don't, bet you don't, bet you don't like your life.

01:36:01You got two fat children and a drunken man.

01:36:04Yeah.

01:36:05Um.

01:36:09Some people say he scripted his phone calls.

01:36:11Do you think it matters in the end?

01:36:13I don't think that he scripted his phone calls.

01:36:15I mean, look, I'm somebody who has live conversations with thousands of people over

01:36:20the years.

01:36:21I do not, in a million years, think that those phone calls were scripted.

01:36:25You don't need to.

01:36:27You don't need to.

01:36:28But of course, you know, so his, I don't mean to summarize Kevin Samuels, who's a,

01:36:32you know, very deep, rich and complex thinker.

01:36:35But one of his arguments, first of all, female accountability was really important.

01:36:40And he has a way of reversing things.

01:36:41It's just wild, right?

01:36:43So a woman who's, the typical scenario would be a woman who's a single mother and who's,

01:36:51you know, 37.

01:36:52She's got two kids by two different guys.

01:36:55She calls in and she says, I want to have more kids.

01:36:58And I want a guy who makes $200,000 a year.

01:37:01And his argument, I'm going to say, he'd say the same three questions, right?

01:37:07How old are you?

01:37:08What's your dress size?

01:37:10How much did you weigh the last time you weighed yourself?

01:37:13And most of the callers would, they weigh more than men, right?

01:37:17And he would say, you can't get better than your baby daddy.

01:37:23Like the baby daddy, that's the bar, right?

01:37:25Like you can't ask for more than your baby daddy, because he's the guy you gave your

01:37:29youth and your womb and your beauty and your fertility to, and you gave him the biggest

01:37:34gift you can give a man, which is to bear him a child.

01:37:37So that is your standard.

01:37:39And now you have his kid, you can't get better than him.

01:37:42And you're lucky to get as good as him because you're going to ask another man to raise your

01:37:46own kids.

01:37:46And he talked about how if, you know, if there's a daughter involved and the stepfather's in,

01:37:50there could be false allegations if the daughter gets really mad at the stepfather or something

01:37:54like that.

01:37:54So for him, trying to get women to take accountability for the bad choices.

01:38:02So the women say, well, this is unfair, right?

01:38:04And he's like, so it's unfair that I have to lower my standards.

01:38:09And he would say, well, but you like unfairness when it suits you, right?

01:38:16So if you get married, sorry, if you get pregnant, you can choose to abort that kid.

01:38:22And the dad can't say a goddamn thing about it.

01:38:25And you like having that freedom.

01:38:26Is that fair on the man that you can just go and abort his kid and he can say nothing

01:38:29about it?

01:38:30So you like that unfairness.

01:38:31You don't dislike the other unfairness.

01:38:32So let's not talk about unfairness.

01:38:34Just such a precise and deliberate thinker and a very strong man, just in terms of his

01:38:42assertiveness and all of that.

01:38:44So, I mean, a few things, I disagree with him about it, but it doesn't really matter

01:38:48in particular because he was actually out there speaking for men and he had an incredibly

01:38:53deep and robust analysis of modern sexual, dating, romantic, and reproductive relationships.

01:39:00He had actually kept up with all of these things.

01:39:02And of course, a wildly success.

01:39:03He was worth millions of dollars because he would charge like $900 an hour for some, I

01:39:07think, for his image consulting business and so on.

01:39:10So he was very good.

01:39:16All right.

01:39:18In the past, I hesitated to ask out girls.

01:39:20And other times I asked out girls who rejected me.

01:39:22The sting of pain from hesitation is larger than the sting from getting rejected outright.

01:39:33I used to hang out in America's Amiris community, friend of Kevin's, and they hosted shows

01:39:38together, but I realized the community was not uplifting.

01:39:40Nothing I could do to help and did not want to be pulled down.

01:39:43Never got deep into topics like here.

01:39:45Yeah, I mean, Kevin Samuels also had a pretty good analysis.

01:39:48So he would say repeatedly, like, 51% of black men are childless and in the middle class.

01:39:5451% of black men are childless and in the middle class.

01:39:58And then you'd say 30% of black men are married.

01:40:00And so for the single moms, like 80% of black children were coming from 10% to 20% of unstable

01:40:09men.

01:40:10I mean, I can't tell you how catastrophic that is in any community.

01:40:16For the least stable and reliable men to be fathering 80% of the children.

01:40:25And, you know, he got into genetics talk that was pretty hair raising and I can understand

01:40:29why people would get upset.

01:40:30Right?

01:40:32So, yeah, he was very blunt and spoke to what men instinctively feel, but generally cannot

01:40:42express.

01:40:42And that is a very powerful thing.

01:40:44And he did, I think, a lot of good, but you can't do a lot of good in this world without

01:40:48hurting a hell of a lot of people.

01:40:49And it's not the purpose, of course.

01:40:50Right?

01:40:51So he can't do the good that he was doing in his community.

01:40:57It's like once you figure out that smoking gets people killed, you have to communicate

01:41:02to people how dangerous smoking is.

01:41:04Right?

01:41:04You have to say to people, smoking is really, really, really dangerous.

01:41:08You're going to, you know, one out of two smokers are going to die from smoking.

01:41:13Now, what that does is it gets people to quit.

01:41:16It gets people to stop starting smoking.

01:41:19But what does it do?

01:41:20You know, when the smoking data finally came out after it was suppressed for many years,

01:41:26in the 1950s, people freaked out.

01:41:32They got mad at their doctors.

01:41:33They got mad at the media.

01:41:34They got mad at everyone.

01:41:36They got mad at the big tobacco companies.

01:41:41So, you can't get people to quit smoking or to not start smoking without seriously

01:41:49harming the peace of mind of hundreds of millions of smokers.

01:41:56So, some guy who's been smoking a pack a day since he was 20 and now he's 60, he's

01:42:01probably screwed.

01:42:02I'm no doctor, but I would not put a lot of money on his odds of doing well.

01:42:08So, what you can do is you can say, well, we won't talk about how dangerous smoking

01:42:13is because it's really going to be upsetting to people who've already damaged themselves

01:42:18through smoking.

01:42:20They're going to freak out.

01:42:21They're not going to be able to sleep.

01:42:22They're going to be upset.

01:42:23They'll be angry, frustrated, tense.

01:42:27So, people who've already made the bad decisions, once you talk about how bad those

01:42:31decisions are, you can.

01:42:32It's the only way to get people from stopping, starting smoking or quitting smoking is to

01:42:36say about how deadly smoking is.

01:42:38But what about all the people who've been smoking forever?

01:42:41They're going to freak out.

01:42:41They're going to be upset.

01:42:42They're going to be angry.

01:42:48So, with Kevin Samuels, or I guess me, I was doing single mom stuff like 15 years ago,

01:42:53right?

01:42:56The truth about single moms was a long time ago.

01:42:59So, when you talk about how bad a deal single motherhood is for dads, stepdads, when you

01:43:06talk about, like Kevin Samuels would say, so there was a woman who's got a kid and she

01:43:10wants two more kids, says, okay, so a man comes and is he going to be able to spend

01:43:16money on his own kids without spending money on your kid, right?

01:43:19I remember his example.

01:43:20He says, you come home, kids, it was the kids, right?

01:43:23He said, you come home with a pizza, got 12 slices, right?

01:43:27Three slices for him, three slices for you, three slices for his son, three slices for

01:43:32his daughter, and your daughter gets none.

01:43:35Would that be okay?

01:43:36No, that would not be okay.

01:43:37So, he's taken money out of his own children's mouths to give to your kid.

01:43:46It's not a good deal.

01:43:47And so, how do you get women to stop being single mothers without hurting the feelings

01:43:54of the existing single mothers?

01:43:56You can't.

01:43:58To do good in the world means that you're going to hurt people and there's no way around

01:44:05it.

01:44:05And then everyone gets mad at the moralists for hurting people and it's like, but nobody

01:44:13says we should have shut up about smoking because it upset the smokers, right?

01:44:19I mean, when slavery was ended, thank the Lord above, when slavery was ended, it really

01:44:30upset the slave owners and the slave catchers and the slave traders and the slave shippers.

01:44:39Every moral advancement defines people as immoral and makes them feel bad.

01:44:46Does that mean we should not advance the morality of the species because people will

01:44:50be upset?

01:44:52But of course, we have a gynocracy to a large degree through democracy, which is always

01:44:57the case because women outlive men and outvote men.

01:45:02So, we have a gynocracy, which means bad feelings.

01:45:08That which causes bad feelings is the bad.

01:45:12That which makes people feel bad is the bad.

01:45:14Immorality is discomfort and unpleasant emotions, which means that we have moral regression.

01:45:23Moral progress is when we say the morality of mankind must advance and if it upsets people,

01:45:30that's an unfortunate side effect, but we must advance.

01:45:34We have these moral Luddites that say, well, moral advancement makes me feel bad, therefore

01:45:39it's bad.

01:45:41The facts make me feel bad, therefore the facts are immoral.

01:45:45Bigoted, whatever, right?

01:45:47The facts make me feel bad and we have the genuine belief, it's a genuine belief in society

01:45:53that if you upset people, you're a bad person.

01:45:58Well, let's be honest.

01:45:59If you upset men, you're a bad person and in particular white men.

01:46:03So, if you upset people, you're a bad person, which means that we can't morally progress

01:46:09because all moral progression makes people feel bad.

01:46:12When people start to accept the peaceful parenting paradigm, which will absolutely

01:46:16happen over the next generation, when people absolutely start to affect, they recognize

01:46:20the problem of childism, bigotry against children.

01:46:23They recognize that we dehumanize and beat and exploit children.

01:46:27The fact that we sell children on the altar of foreign banksters to bribe voters in the

01:46:30here and now.

01:46:31The absolute raging bigotry that we have against children, the most helpless victims of society

01:46:40and the beings we say we love the most and care for the most, we exploit and harm and

01:46:48beat and torture the most.

01:46:50No question.

01:46:51They are the most praised, worst treated class of citizens in all of human history for all

01:46:57time until very soon.

01:47:00And when we finally really get just how appallingly we treat children while claiming to love them

01:47:07and do everything for them, that is going to make a lot of people feel absolutely, seriously

01:47:13fucking terrible.

01:47:16The moral numbing of propaganda will be removed and the agony of spirits that accumulate from

01:47:24the mistreatment of the innocent and the helpless and the dependent, the torture of those you

01:47:30have absolute control over, will make people feel nauseous, raging, suicidal, murderous.

01:47:41The uncorking of the moral numbing of dehumanization of children and dissociation of word and deed

01:47:48when you connect those things back together.

01:47:51Then you say, you care about the vulnerable in society, you should be advocating for the

01:47:55children.

01:47:56You care about the excluded and the diminished and the ignored and, oh, you want legal rights,

01:48:01are you?

01:48:01Great, great, children.

01:48:04It's all about the kids.

01:48:06Now, that kind of progress is going to cause the most agony that is conceivable within

01:48:17society as a whole.

01:48:19And we've seen this, right?

01:48:21You can see this in reactions to what I've done for many years, right?

01:48:31And if we put feelings over virtues, we get moral regression, which is why, in general,

01:48:39and it's meant to, to some degree, but when women gain control, they won't admit that

01:48:45they're wrong.

01:48:45They don't want the humility of subjecting themselves because women have done a significant

01:48:50amount of evil in the world, right?

01:48:51Women hit children more, they abuse children more, they neglect children more than men.

01:48:56And I don't care about, oh, the ratio, this and the other, doesn't matter, doesn't matter,

01:49:00right?

01:49:00We don't excuse men if they hit women for saying, well, men are stronger, therefore,

01:49:04right?

01:49:05Women, yeah, women spend more time around kids, doesn't matter.

01:49:07They still, the morals are not ratios, morals are not statistics.

01:49:13So, the harm that women have done to children needs to be admitted.

01:49:20And, you know, harm that men have done, I get all of that, but the harm that women have

01:49:22done to children needs to be admitted.

01:49:25But it is going to make them incredibly destabilized.

01:49:36The agony is going to be incredibly unpleasant.

01:49:43Not to mention, of course, the agony that is going to occur when women who have not

01:50:03settled down end up facing, I talked about this the other day, when women who have not

01:50:08settled down end up facing the bills for retirement and they don't have the money.

01:50:14And they can't get the money because they're too old to get a man who will pay their bills.

01:50:21It is really going to be extremely unpleasant.

01:50:25Like, society doesn't morally progress without examples of the contrary.

01:50:30Like, what happens if you do bad things, stupid things, irresponsible things?

01:50:35Well, you're going to have to suffer.

01:50:37And nobody wants to be the example, right?

01:50:40Nobody wants to be the example that people hold up and say, well, this is why you shouldn't

01:50:43do these things, because look what happened to this person.

01:50:45Nobody wants to be that.

01:50:46I understand that.

01:50:47But without that, we can't progress.

01:50:51Oh, you say the black community can't be honest about uncomfortable truths?

01:50:54That is not a black community thing.

01:50:56That is not a black community thing.

01:50:58All right, the single moms keep getting sex invalidation from society.

01:51:13It's a big mess, right?

01:51:21Creator Ayla Moon was studying neuroscience and psychology when she started an OnlyFans

01:51:26account.

01:51:27Her account went viral shortly after she decided to pursue adult content creation full-time.

01:51:35And what is also going to happen is when women who've got the short-term, I assume,

01:51:44danger, fracture, sexual thrill of either texting or posting sexual content of themselves

01:51:50online—and this could be just sending nudes and stuff like that—when women realize the

01:51:55price that they will pay among quality men, it's going to be brutal.

01:52:00Oh, man, it's going to be brutal.

01:52:02When the government inflates things away, the government starts to run out of money

01:52:05and so on, and women say that they want men who will provide, then there will be a great

01:52:14demand for provider men, right?

01:52:16See, men are forced to provide for women through the welfare state, involuntarily forced to

01:52:20provide for women.

01:52:22And when the government begins to run out of money—and this can happen in any number

01:52:29of ways, we've talked about this before, most likely inflation—then women will start

01:52:35swarming the provider men.

01:52:39Women don't need to swarm the provider men now because they don't really think about

01:52:43retirement, which is another thing that Kevin Samuels was constantly talking about.

01:52:46So women will start to swarm the provider men.

01:52:50In other words, the provider men, men who can provide and protect in a situation of

01:52:54economic instability—this is the whole plot of my novel The Present—so men who can provide

01:53:00and protect in an unstable political and socioeconomic situation, those men will be swarmed by women

01:53:09and those men will have their pick.

01:53:12Those men will have their pick.

01:53:13Now, any liability will exclude the women, right?

01:53:20So women will now be desperate to hide any negatives, right?

01:53:25They will be desperate to hide—but the internet is forever, the internet never forgets, and

01:53:29so on, right?

01:53:30And also because there'll be such great value in men being providers that men will also

01:53:39blackmail women saying, some men will blackmail women saying, I will release your photos or

01:53:49I will repost your videos if you don't pay me.

01:53:52I mean, to say it's ugly, it's ugly, but that is the way that things will work.

01:53:59So when women are then desperate for providers, they will intensely regret all the negative

01:54:11things that they did, right?

01:54:13So if they've done posts—and I don't know, it's amazing to me that people do this stuff,

01:54:18but I guess we're just so removed from reality by the psychotic-inducing, psychosis-inducing

01:54:26debt.

01:54:26Debt produces psychosis.

01:54:28So they disconnect from reality.

01:54:31So women will then start to swarm the provider men, and the provider men will say, okay,

01:54:36well, and there'll be services set up to this.

01:54:38How do you vet a woman, right?

01:54:39Because we don't have these services because men are asking and women are deciding, right?

01:54:46So women are in demand, men are not.

01:54:48When the economy begins to go tits up—I guess women go tits up too—but when the

01:54:55economy begins to go tits up, then men will be highly in demand and services will almost

01:55:00immediately spring up.

01:55:01And this is what I would do if I was still in the entrepreneurial world, is using all

01:55:07public information, all public information, nothing else, right?

01:55:09Public tweets and posts and Facebook and that, and say, okay, vet this girl, right?

01:55:14Has she posted stuff about how she hates men?

01:55:16Has she posted stuff about the patriarchy?

01:55:17Has she posted stuff about being a strong, independent woman who don't need no man?

01:55:21Has she—like all this kind of stuff, right?

01:55:23And it'd be just like, okay, because when men are in demand, men are going to vet and

01:55:28women are going to completely freak out about all the stupid woke crap they've posted and

01:55:32all of the nonsense and the nudity and the nude pics and the videos and like all of this

01:55:36stuff is just going to be disqualifying for a quality man.

01:55:41And, you know, maybe she could lose weight, but was she ever overweight?

01:55:44And did she only lost weight because she needs a man, right?

01:55:47In which case she'd probably go back after, right?

01:55:49A woman who's been significantly overweight, to me, is always kind of—the fat cells are

01:55:53forever, right?

01:55:54Almost, right?

01:55:54The fat cells are forever.

01:55:55They're just waiting to be react—like sleeper cells, right?

01:55:57They're just waiting to be reactivated by pregnancy or whatever it is, right?

01:56:01So it's going to go back, right?

01:56:08All right.

01:56:08This is the exact same example I gave my brother about smoking.

01:56:11I told him, my dad smokes and telling him it's bad for him.

01:56:13Is that because you're critical of him or because you love him?

01:56:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:18People can't handle bad feelings, which means they can't grow as people because

01:56:22excellence is simply the capacity to survive suffering.

01:56:28That's all excellence is.

01:56:29All excellence is, is the capacity to survive and even flourish from suffering.

01:56:33I mean, if you want to be a top athlete, you need to train and survive massive amounts

01:56:39of suffering.

01:56:40I mean, you talk to athletes and they're like, well, why did you quit?

01:56:43I couldn't do another season of training.

01:56:45I just couldn't do it.

01:56:48I mean, if you look at movie stars, they work out.

01:56:52They constantly, like the guys who are doing Top Gun, they filmed their scenes where they're

01:56:57all totally ripped.

01:56:58And then they realized that the lighting was bad.

01:57:00They had to redo it.

01:57:01And they're like, I can't do another two weeks of this.

01:57:03They ended up doing it.

01:57:03But they're just, the amount of suffering that is required for excellence is so enormous

01:57:09that if you can't handle suffering, you can't get good at anything, right?

01:57:16Every advancement makes you feel like an idiot.

01:57:19When you start to learn a new language, you feel like an idiot.

01:57:23When you start to morally improve, you feel like a bad person.

01:57:27Because relative to where you want to morally improve to, you are a bad person.

01:57:30Because if you achieved that and fell back, that would be a backslide.

01:57:47Thank you for the tips.

01:57:48I appreciate that.

01:57:55Do you think we will go full communist when all the single women age out and are forced

01:57:59to be accountable?

01:58:03It's going to be brutal.

01:58:06It's going to be brutal.

01:58:11We've never had a single woman generation retire before Gen X did not seem at all prepared

01:58:15for retirement.

01:58:16No, they're not.

01:58:17They're not.

01:58:18And the other thing too is that, I mean, why do you need, I mean, this is blindingly obvious,

01:58:25right?

01:58:26Why do you need student loan debt forgiveness?

01:58:30Why?

01:58:31Because you see, the student loans were supposed to be massively positive for the economy as

01:58:35a whole.

01:58:36Student loans were supposed to be just massively positive for the economy as a whole.

01:58:40And why do you need student loan debt forgiveness?

01:58:44Because women take impractical degrees.

01:58:47You recently did not pursue a woman after seeing she had a huge back tattoo on her social.

01:58:57Yeah, for sure.

01:58:57Tattoos to me, a total red flag.

01:58:59I've never ever dated a woman with a tattoo, not even a tiny one.

01:59:02Wouldn't, you couldn't pay me enough.

01:59:03Yeah, I know it's, it's horrible.

01:59:18And, you know, I mean, philosophy can't solve it.

01:59:21That's why I'm sort of out of politics, philosophy.

01:59:23Okay, what's your opinion on attending high school reunions?

01:59:25I only attended one by accident.

01:59:27I just happened to be hanging out with a friend of mine.

01:59:28We were near the high school.

01:59:29There happened to be a reunion, so we went.

01:59:31I thought it was interesting.

01:59:32I'm glad I went.

01:59:33I'm glad I went.

01:59:34I'm glad I went.

01:59:36Because it was interesting to see just how constant personality is.

01:59:39It helps you just accept your own self when you realize how much of it is just right.

01:59:44What's the student loan debt?

01:59:45A trillion of negative.

01:59:47Oh yeah, it's a trillion plus.

01:59:48And I mean, you know, the more free women become, the more they choose traditionally

01:59:55female occupations, of course, and the less they choose the most traditional female occupation,

02:00:01which is actually having children.

02:00:03Very sad.

02:00:05But it's more fun for a woman to be wooed than to do the hard work of actually having

02:00:11and raising children.

02:00:12It's more fun to go out for dinner and be taken to clubs and go discoing and go on little

02:00:18getaways to an island for the weekend and have lots of sex.

02:00:22I mean, that's way more fun than childbirth and breastfeeding and being up three times

02:00:27a night because your baby needs something.

02:00:29Wooing is infinitely more enjoyable, at least in the short run.

02:00:33And so women just jump from wooing to wooing, right?

02:00:35That's what they do.

02:00:42Women like to be wooed, but the actual job of settling down, committing to a man,

02:00:52having children, you know, I mean, it's tough on your sleep, it's tough on your figure,

02:00:57it's hard work, it's demanding, it's, you know, I mean, I've been a stay-at-home dad

02:01:00for 15 years, right?

02:01:01It's a lot of work.

02:01:03It's great.

02:01:04No question.

02:01:05Wouldn't trade it for the world.

02:01:06It's a lot of work.

02:01:07So yeah, it's just, it's a lot more fun to get swipes on Tinder and to go out for coffees

02:01:11and to be taken out for dinner and have men drooling all over you and wanting you and

02:01:16then taking you away for the weekend.

02:01:17And it's just way more fun, lots of sex.

02:01:20And it's like, okay, it's like living like a shallow, foolish person.

02:01:26Okay, I get that.

02:01:27It's living like a child with, doesn't know when to stop eating candy, but.

02:01:39With a trillion dollars, we could have colonies on Mars, but nope.

02:01:42We have experts in basket weaving and musical chairs, yeah.

02:01:48How much does it cost on average for a private call-in?

02:01:51Well, I'm doing, I'm starting off low.

02:01:53The price is going to go up.

02:01:54Just go to freedomain.com slash call.

02:01:57And it's booked up for a while, but I'm sure we can get something done for you.

02:02:02But it depends.

02:02:04I can't really say on average, some people are shorter, some people are longer.

02:02:10Yeah, so freedomain.com slash call.

02:02:12But I can tell you the, I mean, I've asked people nicely, of course, for, you know,

02:02:16tell me what you think of the call and you can read some of the testimonials and they're

02:02:19amazing.

02:02:20It's incredible stuff.

02:02:24It seems like everyone does drugs.

02:02:27Every new community I join, eventually the convo turns into drug talk.

02:02:31Pretty black pilling.

02:02:31Oh God, I've never been around a community like that.

02:02:37Was the reunion recent?

02:02:38No, no, no, no.

02:02:39It's like 30 years ago.

02:02:46I've been thinking about how the beginning part of a relationship is much easier than

02:02:49being a wife and mother.

02:02:50Is it the same for men?

02:02:52Well, yeah, so for men, for men it's different.

02:02:57So for men, what happens is you don't grow up till you become a dad.

02:03:02You know, don't get mad at me.

02:03:03I don't make the rules.

02:03:04But as a man, you don't really grow up until you become a dad because you're not, you grow

02:03:09up when you're responsible for other people.

02:03:13Well, if it's just about you, then you're like a toddler, right?

02:03:15Toddlers are, it's just about them.

02:03:17And I say this with all humility and I didn't become a father till I was 39 or 40.

02:03:25And so, not by choice, but just by the way it played out.

02:03:32So for men, once you become responsible for a family, you are a man.

02:03:45Because the whole point of being a man is to protect and provide for your wife and children.

02:03:50That's what, that's why there is a man.

02:03:52And that's why there is a woman, right?

02:03:53To protect and provide.

02:03:54So you do not become a man, in other words, fulfill the purpose of masculinity until you

02:03:59protect and provide for your wife and children.

02:04:05And a lot of people are very much, it's the lost boys thing, right?

02:04:09A lot of the Peter Pan syndrome, like a lot of people, men and women are seduced by all

02:04:13the things that are supposed to lead up to the assumption of responsibility, except for

02:04:17actually assuming the responsibility.

02:04:20It's like if people flew you all over the place for your job interviews and put you

02:04:24up in nice hotels and so on, and you just kept going to job interviews and never actually

02:04:28taking a job, I guess you'd get some fun travel in and so on, but it's kind of, you're ripping

02:04:33people off.

02:04:34Because if you're not intending to take the job, then taking the money is just stealing

02:04:39from companies.

02:04:39It's just stealing from people, right?

02:04:41You understand, right?

02:04:42It's just stealing from people.

02:04:45And in the same way, if a woman is not particularly attracted to man, isn't looking to get married

02:04:49and have kids, then going out on dates is just kind of stealing from the future.

02:04:56Because if you were honest, like if some place wanted to fly you out for a job interview

02:05:00and spend $1,000 to get you out there, put you up in a nice hotel or $2,000 or whatever,

02:05:05and you said ahead of time, I'm never going to take a job with you, they wouldn't fly

02:05:11you out.

02:05:11So it's just a huge amount of deception and childishness.

02:05:16Steph, I don't understand why even tiny tattoos are such a red flag.

02:05:19Could you elaborate on this?

02:05:20Or did you do a show on this in the past?

02:05:23Okay, so just look up the relationship between tattoos and IQ.

02:05:27Most girls get tattoos out of peer pressure, even most guys.

02:05:32So tattoos are painful.

02:05:35They are a lack of empathy to your future self.

02:05:38I don't know, if you want to get some stupid tattoo, go get a henna tattoo on vacation

02:05:42and it washes off after a couple of weeks.

02:05:43Don't get some permanent stupid thing inked on your actual perfect flesh.

02:05:48So it's a lack of empathy for your future self.

02:05:50It's a susceptibility to peer pressure.

02:05:52Now, susceptibility to peer pressure is a huge red flag in men and in women, but particularly

02:05:58in women who are more prone to groupthink.

02:06:00If you're susceptible as a woman to peer pressure, then what's going to happen is,

02:06:04at some point, you're going to meet a woman who's going through a divorce.

02:06:07You're going to meet a woman who's going through a breakup as a woman, as a wife.

02:06:10You're going to meet a woman who's a feminist.

02:06:12You're going to meet a woman who's a boss babe.

02:06:13You're going to meet a woman who's just going to roll her eyes.

02:06:16Oh, you're just a stay-at-home mother.

02:06:17Oh my God, what a broodmare.

02:06:18You know, and she's going to, oh, it's going to hurt because she's susceptible to peer

02:06:22pressure.

02:06:22Susceptibility to peer pressure makes for a very bad wife to any man who's an independent

02:06:28thinker because she's going to get influenced by somebody outside the marriage and it's

02:06:32going to fuck the marriage up and you'll be absolutely helpless to do it.

02:06:34So, a tattoo is not something you choose for yourself.

02:06:38It's something the tribe chooses to stamp upon you to show your conformity to the tribe.

02:06:43It's branding by the collective.

02:06:45It's not an individual choice.

02:06:46Who on earth would choose that individually?

02:06:48Hey, I'm going to go and get permanent painful ink stains on my body.

02:06:52Like, it just makes no sense.

02:06:53So, it is a stamp that the collective hive mind puts on individuals and it means that

02:07:00they will undergo severe pain and permanent injury, right?

02:07:07A tattoo is an injury.

02:07:09They get a permanent injury and temporary pain, permanent injury for the sake of conformity.

02:07:16It also means they could be masochistic.

02:07:18Maybe they enjoy the pain, but it means that they'll go through great pain in order to

02:07:23conform to some stupid social norm, which means that they can't be relied upon to resist

02:07:27social impulses.

02:07:29All marriages will go through a period where people are trying to wreck the marriage.

02:07:35Understand, every single one of you, and if you're honest, there's going to be, you know,

02:07:40over the course of a long marriage, there's going to be someone or more than one person

02:07:44who's going to want to break up the marriage.

02:07:47They may be not explicit about it.

02:07:48They may not be direct about it.

02:07:49They may not even act on it that much, but there's going to be somebody who's hurt and

02:07:52upset and negative towards your marriage.

02:07:55I mean, the attacks on me, to a large degree, the attack upon my marriage, right?

02:07:58So, there are going to be people, and the more good you do, and the more honest you

02:08:03are, and the more moral you are, the more virtuous you are.

02:08:05In other words, the more that you do things for which you will be loved, the more people

02:08:10will try to break up your marriage.

02:08:11The more people will attack your marriage, and if you have a conformist who's willing

02:08:14to undergo a permanent injury for the sake of social conformity, she's going to crumble

02:08:18in the face of that pressure against your marriage.

02:08:25Yeah, ear piercings, I don't care.

02:08:27Yeah, I mean, that's fine.

02:08:36Most people who get tattoos do a lot of drugs as well.

02:08:38I assume so, right?

02:08:40A lot of people who get tattoos are addicted to the painful experience and enjoy the high

02:08:43of being tattooed.

02:08:44But it's a form of self-harm, right?

02:08:45And literally is a form of self-harm.

02:08:47I mean, if there's a woman who cut herself, would you want to marry her?

02:08:54It is a form of self-harm.

02:08:58Tattoos also become a part of your lymphatic system.

02:09:00I don't know about that, but I'm not going to argue.

02:09:08Davidicus forbids marking the skin, yeah.

02:09:14Yeah, honestly, a little bit ear piercing, I could care less, right?

02:09:17I mean, it's a little jab, it doesn't hurt for more than a second or two, and it's not

02:09:23a permanent marker, right?

02:09:24You don't wear it, it just grows over, right?

02:09:26So it's not the same.

02:09:32All right, any other last questions?

02:09:35My tips, man, my tips, my tips, my tips, my humps and my tips.

02:09:40Freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.

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02:09:47I actually have a question that I've been mulling over.

02:09:49Where is the line between your friends should have intervened in a bad

02:09:52relationship?

02:09:55And I refuse to let anyone tear into my relationship and would protect it against

02:09:58outsiders.

02:09:59Well, if it's a good relationship, then people who are trying to harm it are bad people.

02:10:04Yeah, nose rings are not good.

02:10:05Tongue rings are appalling.

02:10:07I think that's just some weird oral sex fetish thing, so.

02:10:09Yeah.

02:10:21Nose rings or body mod earrings.

02:10:23I don't know about body mod earrings.

02:10:24I would not date a woman with a nose ring.

02:10:27I mean, that's what cattle have.

02:10:32I mean, the women who do this, they're doing you a huge favor.

02:10:36The man, God, are they helping you out?

02:10:38Are they helping you not waste your time?

02:10:40Imagine if people had bought Bitcoin with all the money they spent and wasted on tattoos.

02:10:44Yeah, it can be very expensive, right?

02:10:49Jim Morrison was, quote, Southern.

02:10:50His father zoots with Georgia, but he was a military brat himself.

02:10:53Yes, and raped as a child.

02:10:55Jim Morrison was raped as a child, which is why he killed himself as a young man.

02:10:59If she has nipple rings, oh, God, I can't even imagine.

02:11:05You're still doing regular call-ins.

02:11:07Yeah, I'm still doing regular call-ins.

02:11:10All right.

02:11:12Well, thanks, everybody, for your time today.

02:11:14Really, really appreciate it.

02:11:15Thank you, of course, to Izzy for dropping by if you found this enjoyable and useful.

02:11:20But how do you know the difference when you're in the relationship?

02:11:27I've got a whole book called Real-Time Relationships about how you know this.

02:11:30You can read the books.

02:11:31They're free.

02:11:32Good Lord.

02:11:33Read the books.

02:11:34They're free.

02:11:35Freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.

02:11:37I really would appreciate it.

02:11:37Have yourselves a wonderful, wonderful weekend, and lots of love from up here.

02:11:44I'll talk to you soon, and take care.

02:11:47Thank you for your time today.

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