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00:00So now you have a political strategy in which I have told you about some gaps.
00:03These gaps are visible.
00:04There are gaps in the legal strategy as well.
00:06Yesterday, when Imran Khan met the other journalists,
00:10they said that they have an objection on the personality of Qazi Faiz Isa
00:15that he should not sit on the bench.
00:16I remember that the day Tehreek-e-Insaab's case was to be presented,
00:19one day before you were on my show,
00:21you said that we are going to make an objection.
00:23But the next day, the objection was not made by Qazi Saab.
00:26It was made by Niazullah Niazi Saab.
00:29After a while, it was made by your own party.
00:32Salaam, Akram Raja.
00:33Akram Raja said that there is no objection.
00:35Confusion.
00:36Lack of coordination.
00:37There is an objection.
00:38There is no objection.
00:39What is your position?
00:41Our political component of the party,
00:46from the first day, we have said, including me,
00:49that you cannot get justice from these people, these judges.
00:53There were two people in that.
00:54Qazi Faiz Isa Saab and Chief Justice of the Islamabad High Court.
00:58This has been our contention and we have been pressing it.
01:02Our legal team said that since the cases are pending,
01:06it is appropriate that we let them hear the cases.
01:09And after that, ultimately, we have to get relief from the judiciary.
01:13And I think that since our cases are right,
01:17we will be forced to do so.
01:19Unfortunately, this did not happen.
01:22And since this case is of pivotal importance for us,
01:25the cases of reserved seats,
01:27the pressure from the political leadership is very big.
01:30I have also given statements in this regard 3-4 times.
01:32Yesterday also, I gave a press conference.
01:34In that, we demanded.
01:35Now, Khan Saab has openly said,
01:37and Khan Saab's contention has been here for a long time,
01:40but the political contention, the political strategy
01:43that our legal team had made,
01:46there was variance with it.
01:49Khan Saab openly said yesterday,
01:51No, he said it earlier also.
01:53But the legal team gave him an advice that this is not appropriate.
01:57He agreed that the advice is appropriate.
01:59The important thing is that it goes along with the agreement.
02:01But yesterday, he gave a very strong statement again
02:03that first of all, he should resign.
02:06If he does not, then at least we will be free from our cases.
02:09And Mr. Niazullah Niazi, whom you have seen,
02:11he spoke openly about this.
02:13But when he objected,
02:15at that time, it seems that the entire legal team
02:18did not know.
02:20Or you were not on the same page.
02:22One lawyer said that we have an objection.
02:24The other said that there is no objection.
02:26What should I say about chaos?
02:28There was no coordination.
02:30There are a lot of cases.
02:31There are a lot of people.
02:32So, I do not understand.
02:33No, there is no chaos.
02:34There is no issue.
02:35The problem is that the political team is very clear.
02:37Our political component knows that we do not want to give justice.
02:41So, we want him to resign.
02:43Now, once again, the ball is in the political court's team.
02:46Because it is the legal court.
02:47Now, the legal team, because they are actually fighting the cases.
02:50And they say that we have given you relief in three out of four cases.
02:56Now, there is a fourth case.
02:57It is a matter of Lahore High Court.
02:59We are getting relief in those cases.
03:00No, in Islamabad High Court.
03:01Sorry, yes, yes.
03:02Islamabad High Court and Supreme Court.
03:04But we are not getting any relief from the Supreme Court.
03:06In fact, unfortunately, I think that
03:08the impressions against us are being perpetuated by the Election Commission.
03:11So, what is legal now?
03:12Because now you have said that Mr. Imran Khan has also said it.
03:15Now, Mr. Salman Akhtar will say that we have an objection.
03:19Mr. Hamid Khan will say that we have an objection.
03:21This is your co-legal team.
03:22Now, they are doing their deliberations.
03:24And they are looking at what strategy to adopt.
03:26With regard to this case, which is about reserve seats.
03:31Whether we want to object to it or not.
03:33So, frankly, because they have to go and fight the cases.
03:38And they have to give us the results.
03:40So, I think it is not appropriate for us to assert ourselves.
03:44Because their principal position is that they do not want to object.
03:47That is why I want to ask.
03:48And they are your advocates in all these big cases.
03:50So, can we expect that they will go and object on the bench?
03:54Our political side has tried to do it.
03:57At least with confidence.
03:58We also know that Qazi Sahib will not separate himself.
04:01We also know this.
04:02But at least our legal team should go and voice that
04:06we do not trust you.
04:08You should separate yourself.
04:10In spite of that, if this happens, then you will see
04:12that Qazi Sahib will not separate himself.
04:14You said that you are afraid of Tariq-e-Islam being banned.
04:17Other members of your community do not agree with you.
04:21Umar Ayub does not agree.
04:22I have also heard other people's discussions.
04:24Is this your personal opinion?
04:25No, no.
04:26Look, I just said that whatever is being tried,
04:28it should be out of context.
04:29I did not say that.
04:30Do you remember what was said earlier?
04:32That the Punjab cabinet had said that
04:34a case of treason should be filed against Khan Sahib.
04:38This was said 3-4 days ago.
04:40I said that he is being tried.
04:44That attempt has been eliminated.
04:46I said that he is being tried.
04:49Everyone knows that he is being tried.
04:51But banning PTI is a very difficult task.
04:54There are a lot of people behind it.
04:56Right now, your struggle is big.
04:58You have a lot of challenges.
04:59You also have politics.
05:00You also have your cases.
05:02You have that challenge on a daily basis.
05:05But you also have politics.
05:06And the politics is that a budget has been presented in this country.
05:09Consciously, taxes have been imposed.
05:12We did not see a clear opposition from Tehreek-e-Insaf.
05:15The Awaam Party, which launched on Friday and Saturday,
05:18they did a press conference earlier.
05:20And they broke the budget.
05:22We did not see that opposition from Tehreek-e-Insaf.
05:25You have heard the speeches of our MNAs from the floor of the parliament.
05:29If you had listened to them,
05:30I think you would have reworded this question.
05:32So, you think that...
05:33Incredible, incredible speeches.
05:35You are satisfied with them.
05:36After the substantive speeches,
05:37we also did a press conference.
05:39Zamil Aslam came here from KP
05:42and did a full press conference in KP House.
05:45In which he dissected the budget
05:47and told how the public budget is not there
05:50and how the public will do it.
05:54We are planning this week
05:57to do a major event on this, on the budget.
06:00Okay, before going,
06:01Awaam Party has launched a new party today.
06:04Obviously, it is a shared voting pool.
06:10What do you think?
06:11Is it your opponent?
06:12Is it PMLN's opponent?
06:13Can they put a dent in your vote?
06:14Can they put a dent in PMLN's vote?
06:16Do you consider that?
06:18Basically, it is PMLN's break-away group.
06:20They are good people.
06:21They are nice people.
06:22I think if they have come to the market
06:23with the aim of doing fundamental politics,
06:25then we will welcome them.
06:26Good.
06:27And it is a good thing
06:28that all the sponsors,
06:30all the establishment sponsors,
06:32end.
06:33You don't consider this establishment to be sponsored?
06:36On the face of it,
06:37I don't think so.
06:38On the face of it.
06:39But frankly,
06:40time will tell.
06:41They are good people.
06:43They are very well-meaning people.
06:44Thank you very much, Mr. Raufan.