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00:00After that, we had a meeting in the late night, which was made by the Jalsa Committee.
00:05That meeting lasted for about two hours.
00:07We discussed the pros and cons.
00:09There were two opinions.
00:11One was what you are saying, what Aleema Bibi has also said,
00:14that Jalsa should be held in all circumstances.
00:16And the other was that since we have come through the court,
00:20and we have got this permission because of the court,
00:22so it is better that we go back to the court.
00:24So we decided last night,
00:26that this morning our legal team will go to the court,
00:29will move their contempt of court,
00:31and will try to get it done today itself,
00:33and the decision will be made today itself.
00:35And we penned the decision, the final decision, till morning.
00:39So our team went to Islamabad High Court at 9 in the morning,
00:42with a lot of MNAs.
00:44And they received it.
00:47A diary number was also put on it.
00:49But when we went to the judge on duty,
00:52he said that the Chief Justice of the High Court should mark me,
00:55so that I can hear it today.
00:57Otherwise, I can hear it on Monday.
01:00I don't have the powers to hear your petition on that day.
01:03So this was postponed.
01:05That is, we did not get a judgment today.
01:07After that, our meeting today,
01:09in the afternoon of the Political Committee, at 11 o'clock,
01:11there were these two opinions, even then.
01:14But most of the people opined that,
01:16since this has been done through the court,
01:18and we want, the important thing was that
01:21these people who have violated the court orders,
01:24who have been condemned,
01:26they should be held accountable.
01:28That is why we are waiting.
01:30Sir, I have listened to your entire conversation.
01:32There are two aspects of your Political Committee.
01:35One is political, and the other is legal.
01:37You are telling me your legal strategy,
01:39that we will go to the court, we will do this.
01:41What is your political strategy?
01:43Because this is what is being objected to.
01:45That your political strategy is not being understood.
01:47So this is a legal strategy,
01:49that we will get them condemned.
01:51So politically, the government did not let you have a meeting today.
01:53What is the political answer to this?
01:55Our political strategy has been there for a long time.
01:58And now we have firmed it up.
02:00That the government will not allow us to have a meeting.
02:04Our political movement will not be allowed to start.
02:07Consequently, this is the last time,
02:09we are going by the court.
02:11Otherwise, wherever we want to have a meeting,
02:13we will do it.
02:15Sir, you have given this final ultimatum.
02:17Absolutely. And after this,
02:19we will fulfill the modalities,
02:21whether we get permission or not.
02:23Wherever we want to have a meeting, we will do it.
02:25But you are in an alliance with Mr. Achak Zahid.
02:27This meeting was being held on his platform.
02:29So, is this your solo decision?
02:31This is the PTI's decision.
02:33And if they,
02:35I think they will not disagree.
02:37But even if they disagree,
02:39then we have our own platform.
02:41But Mr. Rahul, in an alliance,
02:43things are not assumed, they are communicated.
02:45You were taking such a big decision.
02:47You communicated with Mr. Achak Zahid.
02:49No, we were communicating with him.
02:51We communicate with everyone.
02:53And did he give you the advice
02:55to cancel the Jalsa?
02:57No, this was the PTI's decision.
02:59Since we had moved the Jalsa,
03:01this was the PTI's decision.
03:03This was the PTI's decision.
03:05This was the PTI's decision.
03:07And on that basis, we said,
03:09since Ashura has come,
03:11we will hold this Jalsa immediately after Ashura.
03:13So, did you tell Mr. Achak Zahid?
03:15Yes, he had to communicate.
03:17I did not communicate with him after that.
03:19Because it is a delicate matter.
03:21Because in an alliance,
03:23all the stakeholders have to come together.
03:25I did not hear Mr. Achak Zahid's statement.
03:27I was waiting for him to give his opinion on it.
03:29Tariq-e-Insaaf has decided
03:31that we will not hold the Jalsa.
03:33Your other partners are also there.
03:35We have not heard from them.
03:37So, this is a solo flight.
03:39If the first Jalsa of an alliance is like this,
03:41then how will it be in the future?
03:43We will take the alliance with us.
03:45I do not think there will be any disagreement in this matter.
03:47This is my personal opinion.
03:49But I do not think there will be any disagreement.
03:51We have been trying for a long time.
03:53We have reached the stage of exhaustion.
03:55It has been 3, 4, 5 months.
03:57In Karachi, Faisalabad, Lahore,
03:59we are not getting permission to hold Jalsa anywhere.
04:01We got permission here.
04:03At the last minute,
04:05they recommended the venue.
04:07That venue was not suitable for the Jalsa.
04:09Despite that,
04:11we are not getting permission.
04:13But the decisions that have been taken now,
04:15it is imperative that we take it
04:17with confidence.
04:19This seems like an afterthought.
04:21I am saying that this is an alliance.
04:23Mr. Tariq Insaaf will make his own decisions.
04:25I think that when you announced this,
04:27Mr. Chakzai must have been sitting there.
04:29Because he has a political stature.
04:31When he sits,
04:33there will be pressure on the government.
04:35He was not there.
04:37So, I am just trying to understand the politics of it.
04:39You have told me legally what you are going to do.
04:41You are holding a press conference alone.
04:43Your allies are not with you.
04:45How will you create pressure on the government
04:47if you do not take them with you?
04:49They are with us.
04:51If there is a disagreement,
04:53they will explain it to us.
04:55We will try our best to resolve it.
04:57But we have to take them with us.
04:59After talking to Mr. Rahman,
05:01has there been a bump in the road
05:03when his party claimed
05:05that they want seats in the court?
05:07No.
05:09There has not been a bump in the road.
05:11I spoke to Mr. Kaisar today.
05:13I think we will have a meeting with him next week.
05:15Hopefully,
05:17he will sort out
05:19all the other reservations.
05:21So, were you shocked
05:23when his representative came to the court
05:25and said that they want seats?
05:27I am assuming that
05:29these terms of reference
05:31are being decided.
05:33Was it decided that
05:35they want seats in the court?
05:37No.
05:39He said that he was disappointed
05:41about the election in the court.
05:43Hopefully,
05:45we will finalize
05:47all these things
05:49in the final.
05:51We will see
05:53if there is a situation like this in the future.
05:55That is why there is a delay.
05:57They want seats in the court.
05:59They are standing with the Election Commission.
06:01I said that I was disappointed
06:03about their position.
06:05We thought that they were moving towards
06:07the new elections.
06:09They said that they wanted to
06:11get the mandate.
06:13Yesterday,
06:15Mr. Khan said
06:17that they want to move towards
06:19the new elections.
06:21There is a commonality here.
06:23If we look at Mr. Khan's statement,
06:25there is only one thing.
06:27If you return the mandate
06:29or
06:31if you go towards the new elections,
06:33all the political parties
06:35will get an equal opportunity
06:37to participate in the new elections.
06:39If you look at Mr. Maulana,
06:41if he feels that
06:43he has been treated unfairly in KP.
06:45There is another opportunity for them.