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00:00You have a Twitter handle, a video tweet from the PTI official, and this is the PTI's official
00:12handle.
00:13The Supreme Court, this is what Hassanat Malik said, this is his comment, that the Supreme
00:18Court should publish the minutes of the Benches Tashkeel Committee on how these benches are
00:22being made, how the Judges Committee is giving permission for such benches, how Justice Qazi
00:27Faiz Ishaq has chosen the judges to include them in his benches.
00:32There is only one guarantee for a system made on Form 47, Justice Qazi Faiz Ishaq, Senior
00:39Court Reporter Hassanat Malik's comment.
00:42Without getting into the content of court, this is your official Twitter handle, are
00:49you owning it?
00:50Yes, of course, it is from the official Twitter handle, we own it.
00:54So you are owning this content, or the material, as well?
00:59We have quoted this content to Hassanat Malik, and we own it, and we agree with him, this
01:03morning, before the proceedings of the court, our lawyer, Niazullah Niazi, had asked the
01:10Chief Justice to separate himself, but when the Chief called Salman Akram Raja and asked
01:17him, he said, I won't do it, I don't.
01:20But this is your policy, of the PTI?
01:24Sir, he was just listening to the case, why didn't you do it?
01:27We will do it, we will have to do it, there is no other option.
01:30I will talk to you openly, there were two cases filed, our legal team used to say, let
01:35them finish, but there is a resounding view in the party, that you will not get justice
01:42from this person, this Chief Justice, this is a resounding view.
01:46And they are saying it again and again, that you will force them to recuse.
01:52Our legal team's contention is, that the cases that are pending in the courts, let
01:57them finish.
01:58So this has been going on for a long time, but I think that the opinion that we should
02:05try to forcefully remove them from the benches, will dominate.
02:10You won't be successful, even today you tried.
02:12That's fine, that won't happen, but we will try.
02:14We have seen that with the Chief Justice.
02:16But will you be able to remove them or not?
02:20I am sure that you won't be able to remove them.
02:22I am sure that you won't be able to do anything like this.
02:24They will have to decide in the end.
02:26But you are saying that this will become your political line and position.
02:29Yes, it has already become.
02:31I have not heard such things from anyone else.
02:33No one else is saying these things.
02:35A lot of people are doing it.
02:37A lot of people are doing it in our internal meetings.
02:39I am talking about television, sir.
02:41I am doing it on television, sir.
02:43I am the spokesperson.
02:44I am telling everything.
02:45I am not doing it on my own.
02:48I express the dominant view of my party.
02:52Sir, there is no dominant view in a political party.
02:54There is a view of the party or not.
02:56I tend to agree with you.
02:58You are right.
03:00But this is a very vociferous demand.
03:02I just want to know if this is an official position or an unofficial position.
03:06Official position, if you are in our legal team,
03:12you may not want us to take this forward at this time.
03:16But I can guarantee you that if not today, then tomorrow or day after tomorrow,
03:20we will take this forward.
03:22We will have to do it.
03:24We do not have any other option.
03:26You are not in a legal or political position right now.
03:28You are not endorsing this right now.
03:30But you think that this will start in the next few days.
03:33Our political position is like this.
03:35I have said this formally.
03:37I have said this many times in my press conferences.
03:39I told 13 reasons last time.
03:42I wish I had brought them.
03:44I would have read them out to you.
03:46They have made statements in different times.
03:48Their wife has made statements.
03:50I have told you 13 reasons.
03:52These are the reasons why.
03:54There is also a judgment of Justice Gulzar in this.
03:56He said that Qazi Faiz Ali Shah will not be a part of any bench
03:58which will listen to PTI or Imran Khan's cases.
04:00This is the judgment of the Supreme Court.
04:02They are violating it.
04:04By being on the benches, hearing Imran Khan.
04:06I am sure someone must have satisfied him in some way.
04:08No.
04:11It is still functional.
04:13The judgment is still there.
04:15Mr. Niazullah Niazi, has he objected to the party policy today
04:17or has he objected to his personal status?
04:19Sir, I am saying that
04:21other than some lawyers
04:23who are pursuing cases
04:25pending sub judice cases.
04:27The demand of the entire party
04:29is to remove him.
04:31I am saying that
04:33one is that your party policy
04:35that every lawyer will go and say
04:37that you cannot sit on the bench.
04:40Mr. Niazullah Niazi has said this in his personal status.
04:42The party does endorse him
04:44but this is not the official position of our party.
04:46We are just about there.
04:48And I do not say this in my personal status.
04:50When I speak, I speak as a spokesperson of the party.
04:52So you are saying that
04:54one is that
04:56there is bench fixing.
04:58Because when you say endorsement,
05:00you are saying that by choosing Qazi Faiz Ali Shah
05:02we should include the judges in our bench.
05:04This is a very serious allegation.
05:06What is there in the bench of the tribunal
05:08that has been made?
05:10The system that has been made in form 47
05:12has only one guarantee and that is Qazi Faiz Ali Shah.
05:14This is a matter of Hassanat Malik
05:16but you are also owning it.
05:18Yes, I am owning it.
05:20He has said this
05:22and I think all this is right.
05:24What is happening right now.
05:26The Supreme Court of Pakistan
05:28has approved the decision of Lahore High Court
05:30on the formation of an election tribunal.
05:32The problem is that
05:34they have said that
05:37there will be a meaningful consultation
05:39between the election commission of Pakistan
05:41and the Chief Justice of Lahore High Court.
05:43No, the new Chief Justice of Lahore High Court.
05:45She will be appointed and she will take an oath.
05:47After that,
05:49the new Chief Justice of Pakistan
05:51who has violated the seniority principle
05:53has been made.
05:55And the reason for this is
05:57they are not saying because
05:59there is a personal issue.
06:01This principle is also
06:03a praise of Qazi Faiz Ali Shah
06:06that there will be seniority
06:08and you cannot pick and choose
06:10on the basis of competence.
06:12But I think it is a matter of circumstances.
06:14If all goes well.

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