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00:00You have already said that this is the issue.
00:03Another issue is that those people who are a part of the party,
00:08who are also being called the current leadership of the party,
00:11that they are a part of the party,
00:13Shandana Sahiba, Shehryar sahib,
00:15but these people are also very concerned about certain things,
00:19and their complaints about the current leadership is not a secret.
00:21I am saying this on air.
00:22Shehryar sahib is saying that he wants to meet me,
00:24but I am not allowed to meet Mr. Khan.
00:25I don't know who is not allowed to meet him.
00:26Shandana Sahiba is saying that she is frustrated with the party's inaction.
00:30I am quoting her words.
00:32So, the meeting with Mr. Khan yesterday was with these two groups,
00:36that Shandana Sahiba, Shehryar sahib, etc.
00:38and the current leadership,
00:39so that they can resolve their own issues.
00:41Yesterday, the meeting with Mr. Khan was with one of them.
00:44When this issue came to Wasim Bhai,
00:46and more talks started on it,
00:49I remember at the end of last week,
00:52I spoke very openly on it.
00:53And that there is no forward block in Tariq-e-Insaab,
00:56there is no group.
00:58And whoever tries to make a forward block in Tariq-e-Insaab,
01:01or tries to make a group,
01:03he will dig his own political grave.
01:05I am telling you clearly.
01:07And yesterday, Mr. Imran Khan spoke openly on this.
01:10Your own media persons came there and asked questions.
01:12By the way, let me tell you,
01:13the way the media is handled there,
01:16Mr. Khan is not allowed to speak.
01:18It is sad to see such a big leader being treated in this way.
01:20But anyway, let's go.
01:21We will go to another debate.
01:23Mr. Khan himself said that there is no forward block in Tariq-e-Insaab,
01:28nor is there a group in it,
01:29because no one can afford it.
01:31At the moment, Tariq-e-Insaab is the only group.
01:3350 years ago, it was Mr. Bhutto's time,
01:36when he used to win.
01:37Now, Tariq-e-Insaab has a very big vote bank.
01:40So, if a person is not loyal to Mr. Khan,
01:46he looks at his political experience and thinks,
01:48no, there is no policy outside of Tariq-e-Insaab.
01:51Therefore, there is no forward block.
01:53Yes, there can be a difference of opinion,
01:56and there should be.
01:57If there is no difference of opinion,
01:59it means that there is no political community.
02:01In that regard, yesterday,
02:02when I spoke to Mr. Khan,
02:03I also suggested to him
02:05that some of our friends,
02:07your old colleagues,
02:08call them and listen to what their reservation is.
02:11So, in that regard, Mr. Khan himself has also given direction.
02:13Yesterday, he called some friends.
02:15There are no groups in this.
02:16Who?
02:16Okay, who are you meeting tomorrow?
02:17There can be two people.
02:20Mr. Khan has called Mr. Junaid Akbar Khan.
02:24And there can be two more members.
02:25And to give this impression that
02:27he has called both the groups.
02:29There is no group.
02:30There is no group.
02:32Right.
02:32Mr. Sheryar and Ms. Shandana
02:34are among the people to be met tomorrow.
02:37I cannot confirm that.
02:39I can confirm Mr. Junaid.
02:40I also spoke to Mr. Junaid.
02:42Because you may not be aware of Mr. Junaid Akbar Khan.
02:45He is an old friend of 1997.
02:49He is a brave man.
02:51He is a very brave and honest man.
02:53And three or four days ago,
02:55he resigned from the core committee.
02:57He was upset about something.
02:59So, Mr. Khan has called them.
03:01They are old friends.
03:02They will sit and come out happily.
03:04Okay.
03:06So, Ms. Shandana and Mr. Sheryar
03:10are also not in your knowledge.
03:11By the way, I had asked Mr. Rahul Hassan yesterday
03:13why these people are not able to meet.
03:14They are saying that they want to meet.
03:15But they are not able to meet.
03:16So, Mr. Rahul said that I will check and tell
03:18why these people are not able to meet.
03:20They have written their names in the list.
03:22Didn't they?
03:23Do you have any information
03:24why Mr. Sheryar is not able to meet Mr. Khan
03:26despite expressing his desire to meet him?
03:28Mr. Sheryar,
03:30yesterday we were at a restaurant.
03:32I asked him.
03:34I think he met Mr. Khan in Ramzan.
03:36Yes.
03:38His next meeting is due.
03:40I can confirm this.
03:42I am not in the committee that meets people.
03:44Whenever I go,
03:46I take an order as a lawyer.
03:48So, I have an edge
03:50that you go there legally.
03:52But some of our political friends
03:54face issues because
03:56Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif
03:58used to meet 40 people.
04:00Mr. Khan meets only 6 people in a week.
04:02He is political.
04:04And 2-3 consecutive people
04:06meet him continuously.
04:08There is Mr. Rahul Hassan
04:10who has to deal with the media.
04:12There is Mr. Umar Ayub.
04:14You have MNAs
04:16and MPs.
04:18Everyone wants to meet Mr. Khan.
04:20There is no restriction on anyone
04:22as far as I know.
04:24You just have to wait for your turn.
04:26There are 6 people
04:28but 3 slots are open.
04:303 of them are your permanent employees.
04:32How many of them will you call?
04:34I think the jail administration
04:36should relax a little
04:38and let their people meet their leaders.
04:40This does not harm the state.
04:42How about your permanent friend,
04:44Mr. Marwad?
04:46Did Mr. Khan say anything about him?
04:48He is my
04:50own personal friend.
04:54I respect Mr. Marwad.
04:56He is my brother from Pathan.
04:58There is a little
05:00disagreement between us.
05:02But I like him
05:04because he is a brave man
05:06and he stood with the party in difficult times.
05:08Did he say anything about him?
05:10No,
05:12he did not say anything about him.
05:14Maybe Mr. Khan will meet him soon.
05:16But as far as I know,
05:18Mr. Marwad is out of the country.
05:20Yes, he is out of Pakistan.
05:22He can meet
05:24Mr. Khan anytime.
05:26He is a lawyer.
05:28What is your opinion on this?
05:30Are you surprised
05:32that on Eid,
05:34Sheikh Rashid
05:36broadcasted 25 TV programs
05:38which is a shame.
05:40Then Mr. Fawad,
05:42Mr. Ali Zaidi,
05:44Mr. Imran Esfandi.
05:46In the last 25-30 days,
05:48you have started saying all this.
05:50Are you surprised
05:52that this happened suddenly?
05:54I do not raise
05:56anyone's question.
05:58But it is surprising
06:00that so many people
06:02have come to the media.
06:04Obviously, they want
06:06to come to the media,
06:08but there are some things
06:10that are in the way.
06:12Obviously, some people
06:14who have made sacrifices
06:16have their own standing,
06:18but those who have gone
06:20out of their way
06:22have their own compulsion.
06:24So these are the things
06:26that Imran Khan himself
06:28will deal with.
06:30So this is a satisfying thing
06:32for him that the man
06:34has come to the media.
06:36As far as Sheikh Sahib is concerned,
06:38I also spoke to him
06:40in the parliament.
06:42Sheikh Sahib and Imran Khan
06:44have been together for a long time.
06:46I tried to get him
06:48involved in the case.
06:50I thought he had taken
06:52the trouble for Imran Khan.
06:54But anyway...
06:56You have put the election
06:58in front of him.
07:00Sheikh Sahib did not get
07:02the ticket.
07:04I tried to get him involved
07:06at that time.
07:08I thought he should get
07:10the ticket.
07:12But anyway, he could not
07:14get it.
07:16But I raised another point
07:18in the National Assembly.
07:20Waseem Bhai is not talking
07:22much about this.
07:24I think that whether
07:26Sheikh Rashid agrees
07:28with him or not,
07:30it is a legal process.
07:32But out of legal process,
07:34I spoke to the Prime Minister
07:36in the National Assembly
07:38that this is very alarming.
07:40Why did this happen to a senior politician?
07:42Whether he is our ally or not.
07:44Whether he is someone's friend or not.
07:46But he is a senior Pakistani politician.
07:48Doesn't he have
07:50legal rights?
07:52Why did this happen to him?
07:54This is for all of us.
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