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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Mian Javed Latif PMLN
- Senator Kamran Murtaza JUIF
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
Javed Latif's shocking statements regarding No Confidence Motion against PTI Chief
"Imran Khan Kay Khilaf No Confidence Motion Lana Ghalat Faisla Tha". Javed Latif's Big Statement
Did Nawaz Sharif meet Qamar Javed Bajwa? - Javed Latif Told Everything - Breaks Big News
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Mian Javed Latif PMLN
- Senator Kamran Murtaza JUIF
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
Javed Latif's shocking statements regarding No Confidence Motion against PTI Chief
"Imran Khan Kay Khilaf No Confidence Motion Lana Ghalat Faisla Tha". Javed Latif's Big Statement
Did Nawaz Sharif meet Qamar Javed Bajwa? - Javed Latif Told Everything - Breaks Big News
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00:00In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:16A very interesting turn of events took place in the last few days
00:20when the US representatives came forward in support of Pakistan's justice movement and its leadership.
00:35The United Nations Working Group also acknowledged that this is wrong,
00:40that there should be freedom and that the case should proceed in the right way.
00:44Let's take a look at the latest statement from the US regarding Pakistan's justice movement.
01:15We want to see the current political situation, the current situation of Mr. Khan evolve in a much more positive way.
01:26So, and some other things like this came up.
01:31Question number one, will this benefit or harm Pakistan's justice movement?
01:38There can be two things. How?
01:41The benefit in this case is that it is an open secret that in Pakistan's politics,
01:47external influences are involved.
01:51Mr. Nawaz Sharif goes to Saudi Arabia.
01:53Mr. Nawaz Sharif complains that you said that you will stay with us for so many years,
01:58but you have gone back for so many years.
02:00Mr. Bin Aziz, Pakistan is coming back. America's role.
02:02I mean, these are all not guesses, not ideas.
02:04I am telling you what is on the record.
02:06I don't know what is behind it, but there are two opinions on it, which are on the record.
02:10There is a long march.
02:12If you think about it, there is a long march of judges in Pakistan.
02:15So, there is a leadership of the Noon League coming out for it.
02:18You think about it, it is such an internal matter.
02:20Even in that, the US and its ambassadors call.
02:22When the US ambassador N.W. Patterson was in the WikiLeaks,
02:26it came out that how much internally they know,
02:31how much America is aware of Pakistan's extreme internal affairs.
02:35Mr. Khan has to say that my government is American.
02:39Now, this is different.
02:40He can also be questioned that your government is American
02:42and the loudest voice in favor of your government has also risen from America.
02:46Isn't this an open contradiction?
02:48So, these are questions in their own place.
02:49But there are two questions first.
02:51How will PTI benefit?
02:53Anyway, there will be a foreign pressure like this,
02:55and as a result, some hands will be light here.
02:58Or there will be a loss that the fight of PTI will go to another level
03:03and PTI will be more resistant to its opponents and they will react more.
03:08This is the first point.
03:09The second point is that is this the failure of the current government?
03:14The answer to this is yes.
03:17I am not going to explain this.
03:19The current government itself, or Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
03:23whether he has a government position or not,
03:25he is considered very close to Nawaz Sharif.
03:27Mr. Irfan Siddiqui, he himself has accepted that
03:30this decision of PTI is a failure.
03:32He has accepted it in clear words.
03:34And what is the value of this decision of PTI?
03:36The effectiveness of PTI has been written and it is there.
03:41There is no doubt about it.
03:43No matter how much we make excuses and arguments,
03:45if in 2013, there was a lot of propaganda against us,
03:51then in the 2018 elections, we had a lot of complaints,
03:55we could not do this.
03:56We could not convince the US or the representatives that the RTS had failed,
04:01there was a lot of oppression against us,
04:03there was a lot of injustice.
04:04We could not do this.
04:06We had no family, we were useless,
04:08or we thought that we should wash our clothes inside our homes,
04:13we should not bring them outside.
04:15Whatever it was.
04:16Now this is their success,
04:18that they convinced 386 representatives and 81 parties.
04:25All kinds of parties voted against it.
04:28Your government has not failed.
04:30Our government has failed.
04:32Our media has failed.
04:34Our politics has failed.
04:36Sir, let's start with this.
04:38We have a lot of topics to talk about with different guests.
04:40Senior leader of Pakistan Muslim Union,
04:43Mr. Javed Lateef is with us.
04:45Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
04:46Assalam-o-Alaikum.
04:49Yes, Walaikum-o-Alaikum.
04:51Sir, thank you very much for your time.
04:52First of all, tell us your opinion.
04:54Do you agree with Irfan Siddiqui's opinion
04:56that the current government has failed
04:59in bringing the PTI?
05:05Thank you, Mr. Waseem Pandami.
05:07But I would like to say that
05:09not only the current government has failed,
05:11the state institutions have also failed.
05:13The state has failed.
05:15The reason for this is that
05:18since the launch of the PTI many years ago,
05:23all the resources,
05:27all the tools of the media
05:30have been used for it
05:32and it has been presented as pure.
05:35I don't want to talk too much,
05:37but I would like to tell you
05:39which you yourself mentioned,
05:41that when there was an arrangement
05:43for non-confidence in Pakistan,
05:46and I am using the word arrangement,
05:48an arrangement was made
05:51that the person who was on the ground
05:54for acceptance,
05:57he was given a cipher
06:01and presented to the public
06:03and he played very smartly.
06:06He said that we are slaves.
06:08Absolutely not.
06:10And when this was said,
06:12people already had these things in their minds
06:16that how does a superpower
06:19impose restrictions on us
06:22or how does it behave with us
06:25and how is the behavior of our enemy
06:29in our neighboring country.
06:32These things were in his mind
06:34and when he said,
06:36the nation came out emotionally.
06:38If I didn't have those things in my knowledge
06:41which were facts,
06:43because I was a part of the cabinet at that time,
06:45then I would also have been engulfed
06:47in those emotions
06:49which had engulfed the youth
06:51who are still confused.
06:53Tell me,
06:55one of the failures was that
06:57and the other one you are talking about
06:59was the agreement,
07:01which the majority of the members,
07:03in fact you can say,
07:05let's come to the agreement in two minutes,
07:07because you brought it up,
07:09are you saying that
07:11the movement of non-confidence,
07:13you used the word arraignment,
07:15are you saying that the movement of non-confidence
07:17was a way to make Imran Khan
07:19extremely accepted?
07:21It was definitely a way.
07:23It was definitely a way.
07:25From whose side?
07:27Mastermind 1000.
07:29Listen to me for a second.
07:31Listen to me for a second.
07:33I am telling you that
07:35the word of facilitation
07:37was not seen on 9th, 10th May.
07:39And what I used to say
07:41that non-national facilitation
07:43is also available for it,
07:45because of which
07:47it has been more than a year
07:49that it could not be punished
07:51on 9th, 10th May
07:53or is not being allowed.
07:55Its non-national forces
07:57are also supporting it.
07:59It has come with its agenda.
08:01Then all those things have been proven
08:03through rents.
08:05The non-national facilitation
08:07was not seen on 9th, 10th May.
08:09On 9th, 10th May,
08:11one institute itself
08:13arraigned itself
08:15and removed a lot of people.
08:17And the second institute started.
08:19Later, it is a different matter
08:21that it stopped in the second institute
08:23and could not be arraigned itself.
08:25Except one or two,
08:27the arraignments came.
08:29But the non-national facilitation
08:31was and is available,
08:33I would like to ask you,
08:35Mr. Waseem Badami,
08:37that the political leader
08:39who served in Pakistan,
08:41the civilian,
08:43whether you are Liaquat Ali Khan,
08:45Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto or Nawaz Sharif,
08:47what do those forces
08:49do with them?
08:51You see,
08:53one Panama came
08:55of 450 people.
08:57And the one who was mentioned
08:59by Imran Khan,
09:01no one has asked till date.
09:03But the one who was not mentioned
09:05in all the stories of Nawaz Sharif,
09:07you bring him to Panama
09:09and remove him from there.
09:11You are saying that America
09:13was with Imran Khan yesterday
09:15and is with him today.
09:17Listen to me.
09:19Even then,
09:21some of our friends
09:23from those countries
09:25made a resolution
09:27in 2014-15
09:29which was not passed
09:31by the Pakistan Assembly.
09:33When two Islamic countries
09:35stood in front of each other,
09:37that resolution
09:39took us down.
09:41That also became
09:43a problem for us.
09:45The CPEC also became a problem for us.
09:47If there was no investment
09:49of China in Pakistan,
09:51then that country would not have been upset.
09:53If that resolution
09:55had not been passed in Pakistan,
09:57then the evidence
09:59against us
10:01from Panama
10:03or Acama
10:05would not have come.
10:07But unfortunately,
10:09we have always sacrificed
10:11for Pakistan.
10:13And for those who destroyed
10:15Pakistan,
10:17there is still
10:19facilitation in Pakistan.
10:21And there is facilitation
10:23outside of Pakistan.
10:25Look,
10:27everything started
10:29with the CPEC.
10:31And you are saying that
10:33it was a trick to make
10:35Imran Khan acceptable.
10:37The request is that
10:39if the CPEC was a trick
10:41of the whole world
10:43and you did not vote for it,
10:45then it would have failed.
10:47Are you saying that
10:49it was a trap
10:51in which you also
10:53created an atmosphere
10:55in which we
10:57were part of
10:59that arrangement.
11:01I am very clear
11:03and I do not have
11:05any objection
11:07in saying the truth.
11:09You must remember
11:11that we had also created
11:13a Judicial Commission in 2014.
11:15We knew that we did not
11:17come through legal action.
11:19So, Nawaz Sharif
11:21created the Judicial Commission
11:23and its result is in front of you.
11:25Then you saw that
11:27all the people of the Cabinet
11:29said about Panama,
11:31all the politicians of Pakistan
11:33said that you talk
11:35inside the Parliament.
11:37Do not make a Judicial Commission
11:39or invite anyone.
11:41But Nawaz Sharif
11:43kept his hand on his chest and said
11:45that because I am
11:47clear in this,
11:49I have no objection
11:51in going in front of the Judicial Commission.
11:53And then the people of the Judicial Commission
11:55from Saqib Nisar
11:57to Baniyal
11:59to Ajaz-ul-Ahsan,
12:01whatever words
12:03Khosa Sahib and others
12:05said and whatever justice
12:07was done to Nawaz Sharif,
12:09Pakistan was destroyed.
12:11It created an atmosphere.
12:13I want to say this to you.
12:15Mr. Javed, I remembered a couplet.
12:17You are so simple,
12:19you never change your ways.
12:21We are also simple,
12:23we follow the same path.
12:25You are so innocent
12:27that you follow the same path
12:29again and again.
12:31You do not.
12:33It is such an old couplet of Pakistan.
12:35You are saying that
12:37it created an atmosphere
12:39and we followed it.
12:41Do you understand today
12:43that it was a mistake
12:45that we followed the same path?
12:47I would like to come back
12:49to your question.
12:51People used to tell us
12:53from 2013 to 2017
12:55that when you did not have
12:57the power,
12:59you were not free
13:01to make your policy,
13:03you were mentioned
13:05in Don Leaks,
13:07you were clear about
13:09Praveen Musharraf,
13:11then why did you not
13:13end the load-shutting?
13:15We were not free
13:17to make our policies,
13:19we were not free
13:21to make our policies,
13:23we were not free
13:25to make our policies,
13:27we were not free
13:29to make our policies,
13:31we were not free
13:33to make our policies,
13:35we were not free
13:37to make our policies,
13:39we were not free
13:41I am today
13:43interrupt
13:45my brother
13:46my brother
13:48when all the people
13:50were on one page
13:52from 2018 to 2022
13:54tell me in 4 years
13:56what that page
13:59did for Pakistan
14:01or for the nation
14:032k
14:05and if everyone was
14:07on one page
14:09we would have brought so many better things,
14:11this nation remembers Nawaz Sharif.
14:13Okay. Now answer my question.
14:15Do you understand that today,
14:17becoming a part of the Tariqat-e-Amitabh
14:19was not a good decision?
14:21It was not.
14:23It was not a good decision at all.
14:25Absolutely not.
14:27The environment that was being created at that time
14:29that for 15 years a certain person will be there,
14:31a leadership system will come,
14:33Pakistan will default,
14:35the things that Pakistan
14:37is going to do,
14:39will be destroyed.
14:41These were all the things that brought us
14:43into emotions.
14:45We sacrificed
14:47to be pro-Pakistani.
14:49But did Pakistan
14:51survive our sacrifice?
14:53Except for one thing,
14:55that it was saved from default.
14:57So what should have been done?
14:59Today in Pakistan, on 8th February...
15:01You are saying that it was not a good decision
15:03to become a part of the Tariqat-e-Amitabh.
15:05What should have been done?
15:07Mr. Khan should have been allowed to complete his rule.
15:09Then you were saying that Mr. Khan
15:11should have been allowed to complete his rule.
15:13Then they would have made Mr. Faiz an army chief.
15:15Then for 10 years he would have been an army chief.
15:17Then for 10 years Mr. Khan would have been in power.
15:19You would have gone to jail.
15:21At that time you were saying all this.
15:23That is why we should have become a part of the Tariqat-e-Amitabh.
15:25Otherwise it was not a good decision.
15:27It should have been done.
15:29I think that
15:31even if we had gone in again,
15:33we would have been released.
15:35Because they were all on the same page.
15:37At that time the judiciary,
15:39the media, the establishment
15:41and the people outside
15:43were all on the same page.
15:45They could have done anything to us.
15:47But before the end of the month,
15:49the whole community
15:51would have opened the doors of the jails
15:53and released us
15:55because we were truthful.
15:57And today,
15:59on 8th February,
16:01you can see the result of the election.
16:03People say that
16:05it is acceptable.
16:07This would have never happened.
16:09In fact,
16:11if people had seen
16:13the statue,
16:15people would have beaten it up.
16:17This would have happened.
16:19People would have seen
16:21its real face.
16:23We were trapped in an environment.
16:25We were trapped in an arrangement.
16:27We made it acceptable.
16:29And we got the opportunity
16:31to hide the facts.
16:35Who was the central figure
16:37in all this?
16:43Imran Khan himself
16:45is the mastermind
16:47of all this.
16:49You said that the plan was
16:51to make Khan acceptable
16:53and to make us unacceptable.
16:55Whose idea was this?
16:57General Faiz,
16:59General Bajwa,
17:01and the people
17:03who were in the courts
17:05at that time.
17:07And those people who
17:09were in Maghreb
17:11to interfere in Pakistan
17:13and to spread in Pakistan.
17:15Those people who make up stories
17:17and give them to Imran Khan.
17:19All those people
17:21were together.
17:23This is a complete lie.
17:25If this was the case,
17:27then the relationship between
17:29Imran Khan and General Bajwa
17:31would have been ruined.
17:33Even today, I am saying
17:35with responsibility
17:37that all those people
17:39are together.
17:41Mir Jafar Mir Sadiq
17:43used to be called
17:45General Bajwa.
17:47He used to believe
17:49that he had met
17:51Mir Jafar Mir Sadiq
17:53when he was being called
17:55General Bajwa.
17:57He did not have the honor
17:59to meet Mir Jafar Mir Sadiq
18:01in secret at night.
18:03Why did he meet him?
18:05What more proof do you want
18:07to get from me?
18:09All of them are still together.
18:11This is going on.
18:13The media was banned
18:15from taking the name
18:17of Maryam Bibi.
18:19This is how it is
18:21in Pakistan.
18:23Wait a minute.
18:25I had said something
18:27which was quoted
18:29by Mr. Zubair.
18:31He said that
18:33Nawaz Sharif met
18:35General Bajwa.
18:37I had said that
18:39if Nawaz Sharif
18:41had met him after 2017,
18:43I would have left politics
18:45and come to a corner
18:47But Mr. Zubair met him
18:49at the behest of Maryam Bibi.
18:51In fact, he said that
18:53Mr. Shahbaz will not tell you.
18:55Listen to me.
18:57I testify that
18:59at the behest of Maryam Bibi
19:01or Nawaz Sharif,
19:03Mr. Zubair was not asked
19:05to meet him.
19:07If he talks to himself,
19:09he talks to himself.
19:11I say with responsibility
19:13that such a meeting
19:15should not be said.
19:17There were two meetings.
19:19In the first meeting,
19:21only Mr. Bajwa was there.
19:23Then Mr. Zubair went to meet
19:25Mr. Zubair.
19:27He briefed Mr. Zubair
19:29about the meetings.
19:31Then he took the message again.
19:33In the next meeting,
19:35Mr. Faiz also came.
19:37Let me take a proof of this.
19:39One accusation was made
19:41against Zubair Umar.
19:43There are many politicians
19:45who have been accused.
19:47But no one from the
19:49Aadhaar-e-Ka-Andar gave
19:51any clarification.
19:53At that time,
19:55a committee was formed
19:57regarding Zubair.
19:59The committee investigated
20:01and gave him a clean sheet.
20:03I am happy that he got
20:05a clean sheet.
20:07But did this committee
20:09form for anyone else?
20:11Was it wrong or not?
20:17Towards the end,
20:19Mr. Javed,
20:21how satisfied are you
20:23with the work of your government?
20:25You have been celebrating
20:27100 days of Punjab.
20:29You have been in Punjab,
20:31Lahore, Shekharpur.
20:33How satisfied are you
20:35with the work of your government?
20:37Waseem Badami,
20:39I have been in Punjab for 100 days.
20:41I am talking about Punjab.
20:43In that,
20:45the resources that could
20:47have been delivered better
20:49could not have been delivered
20:51better in these circumstances.
20:53Noted.
20:55And will you also say about the budget
20:57that the budget that has been given
20:59could not have been given better?
21:01It is wrong.
21:03I do not agree with you.
21:05I say that
21:07the IMF is
21:09killing us.
21:11With this,
21:13God forbid,
21:15the population of Pakistan will increase.
21:17It will not decrease.
21:19I am very clear that
21:21even today,
21:23most of the members of the Congress
21:25are going to pass the resolution.
21:27They are using their influence
21:29to impose strict conditions
21:31on Pakistan
21:33with this budget.
21:35With this,
21:37the population of Pakistan will increase.
21:39With this, the people of Pakistan
21:41are not getting any relief.
21:43The state is not getting any relief.
21:45It is a different matter
21:47that someone gives an argument
21:49that with these resources,
21:51a better budget cannot be presented.
21:53I will say that
21:55with the existence of this IMF,
21:57you wanted to deal with it.
21:59In these conditions,
22:01what else could you do?
22:03Thank you very much, Mr. Javed Latif.
22:05He was talking to us.
22:07He has a very interesting narrative.
22:09He says that the IMF
22:11was a trap.
22:13We should not have
22:15fallen into that trap.
22:17We should have gone to jail.
22:19Today, Mr. Javed says that
22:21we should have gone to jail.
22:23But we should not have supported
22:25the IMF.
22:27But we should not have let Imran Khan's
22:29government fall.
22:31Thank you very much for your time, sir.
22:33Please tell us,
22:35when you stand in front of
22:37Supreme Court of Pakistan
22:39and say that we are
22:41the election commission
22:43of Pakistan,
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28:09Mr. Khan has drawn a lot of clarity on this.
28:11I don't think there should be any confusion
28:13after this.
28:15Mr. Imran Khan said that
28:17there were a lot of people
28:19who have been abused,
28:21who have been abused,
28:23who have been forced,
28:25and there are a lot of people
28:27who have files in front of them.
28:29So I will see these things myself
28:31and I will see them case by case.
28:33So when he said that I will see them
28:35case by case,
28:37he closed the door completely
28:39and opened it completely.
28:41And he has the keys.
28:43So now the former friends of ours,
28:45criticizing their current leadership
28:47and answering the current leadership
28:49is completely unnecessary
28:51because Mr. Khan
28:53has also restricted
28:55their current leadership.
28:57All of our leadership,
28:59from the chairman to all the officials
29:01and people like me
29:03who are now MNAs or former
29:05cabinet members or senior people
29:07or old people,
29:09Mr. Khan has put this restriction on all of them
29:11that you should not respond to them.
29:13There is no need.
29:15You should keep your focus
29:17where it should be.
29:19The release of Asiran,
29:21the return of the mandate,
29:23the genuine issues of Mr. Tariq Khan
29:25and the return.
29:27So if I conclude this debate
29:29then it would be right to say
29:31that whether it is Mr. Fawad,
29:33the return of the mandate is final.
29:35One thing is final,
29:37that until Mr. Khan is in jail,
29:39there will be no decision.
29:41He will come out and look at it case to case
29:43and then decide.
29:45Have I concluded this right?
29:47Mr. Khan will look at it himself.
29:49He will look at it case by case.
29:51The old ones are with us.
29:53But I think that the current leadership
29:55in which Mr. Rao Fasan is present,
29:57he has injured the city.
29:59He has played a difficult role.
30:01Our lawyer leadership,
30:03Mr. Salman Akram Raja,
30:05Mr. Sardar Khosla,
30:07Mr. Salman Sardar is a professional lawyer.
30:09Our leaders are Mr. Bukla,
30:11Mr. Naeem Panjota and other friends.
30:13All of them have played a fundamental role.
30:15When we were in jail,
30:17people played a good role.
30:19There is Mr. Shibli Faraz.
30:21This is a new combination
30:23of old and new.
30:25You will get a new, better
30:27and refined justice
30:29Mr. Khan will look at it himself.
30:31I think that the old friends
30:33should also be patient.
30:35Mr. Khan did not say no.
30:37He will look at it case by case.
30:39This is why this statement
30:41is damaging justice.
30:43The statement has not stopped.
30:45Mr. Fawad gave an interview
30:47at 8 o'clock.
30:49Then he spoke to Sahiba.
30:51Mr. Rao Fasan is giving statements.
30:53If these are Mr. Khan's instructions,
30:55then why have these statements not stopped?
30:57You have to say what Mr. Khan has said.
30:59If someone wants to give a statement,
31:01then we cannot stop them.
31:03Let me tell you one thing.
31:05My view,
31:07those old friends also know
31:09and everyone knows
31:11that I believe that no one
31:13leaves the Jama'at out of happiness.
31:15If your children, your mother,
31:17your sisters are in danger.
31:19The counter argument is that
31:21the people who stood up,
31:23had children, mothers,
31:25so let it be decided
31:27by the Supreme Leader,
31:29Imran Khan.
31:31He will come out soon
31:33and decide for himself.
31:35So avoid unnecessary fights.
31:37This is the best for everyone's health.
31:39Anyway, Mr. Fawad,
31:41this statement of Mr. Khan
31:43is a source of satisfaction for him.
31:45And you understand
31:47that he is happy with this.
31:49On one hand is the current leadership,
31:51Mr. Rao Fasan,
31:53who is saying that he has been
31:55removed from the party.
31:57So the case to case that Mr. Khan
31:59is talking about,
32:01Fawad Chaudhary is not included
32:03because he has been removed from the party.
32:05On one hand, Mr. Rao Fasan is saying
32:07this, but on the other hand,
32:09Mr. Khan is saying that I will see.
32:11No one is saying that he has been removed.
32:13So Mr. Fawad is very satisfied
32:15with this.
32:17Mr. Khan will see this himself.
32:19I think Mr. Fawad should also
32:21see this and it would be appropriate
32:23that the current leadership
32:25has also made sacrifices
32:27and has also taken a stand.
32:29Our focus is on Mr. Imran Khan's
32:31release and the return of the mandate.
32:33Our focus is on the real issues
32:35of the people at the moment.
32:37And anyway, there is no denying
32:39that those who have taken a stand
32:41and those who have faced the right
32:43difficulties, there is no change in that.
32:45The difficulties faced by Sheryar Afridi
32:47and Shandana Gulzar,
32:49Dr. Yasmeen Rashid,
32:51our former Governor Chima,
32:53he is also from Punjab.
32:55Parvez Ilahi,
32:57Shah Mehmood Qureshi,
32:59not to forget Bushra Bibi.
33:01These are the people who have
33:03faced the right difficulties.
33:05So let Mr. Khan come out.
33:07These issues will be resolved.
33:09You have said that this is the issue.
33:11There is another issue.
33:13Those people who are
33:15a part of the party,
33:17who are also called the current
33:19leadership of the party,
33:21that they are a part of the party.
33:23Shandana sahiba, Sheryar sahib.
33:25But these people are also
33:27concerned about some things.
33:29And there is no secret in their
33:31complaints.
33:33Sheryar sahib is saying that
33:35I want to meet him,
33:37but I am not allowed to meet him.
33:39Shandana sahiba is saying that
33:41we are very frustrated about
33:43the party's inaction.
33:45Yesterday, Shandana sahiba,
33:47Sheryar sahib and other leaders
33:49said that their issues
33:51should be resolved.
33:53Yesterday, they met Mr. Khan.
33:55When this issue came up,
33:57I remember
33:59at the end of last week,
34:01I said very openly that
34:03there is no forward block
34:05and there is no group.
34:07And whoever tries to
34:09make a forward block
34:11or group,
34:13he will dig his own political grave.
34:15I am telling you clearly.
34:17And yesterday, Mr. Imran Khan
34:19openly talked about this.
34:21Your own media persons came there
34:23and asked questions.
34:25By the way, let me tell you
34:27that the way media people
34:29are handled there,
34:31Mr. Khan is not allowed
34:33to talk.
34:35It is sad to see such a
34:37big leader being treated
34:39like this.
34:41In the past, 50 years ago,
34:43Mr. Bhutto had a time
34:45when he used to win.
34:47Now, Mr. Tariq-e-Insaf has a
34:49very big vote bank.
34:51I swear to God,
34:53he is not loyal.
34:55He sees the political expediency
34:57and thinks that there is no
34:59politics beyond Tariq-e-Insaf.
35:01So, there is no forward block.
35:03Yes, there can be a difference
35:05of opinion and there should be.
35:07If there is no difference of opinion,
35:09there is no progress.
35:11Yesterday, I also suggested
35:13Mr. Khan to call
35:15some of his old friends
35:17and listen to their reservations.
35:19In this regard, Mr. Khan
35:21himself has given directions.
35:23He has called some friends.
35:25There are no groups in this.
35:27There can be two people.
35:29Mr. Khan has called
35:31Mr. Junaid Akbar Khan.
35:33And there can be two more members.
35:35And give the impression that
35:37there is no group.
35:39There is no group.
35:41Is Mr. Shehryar and
35:43Ms. Shandana present tomorrow?
35:45I cannot confirm that.
35:47I can confirm about Mr. Junaid.
35:49I also spoke about Mr. Junaid.
35:51Because you may not know
35:53about Mr. Junaid Akbar Khan.
35:55He is an old friend of 1997.
35:57He is a brave man.
35:59He is a very brave man.
36:01He is an honest man.
36:03And three or four days ago,
36:05he resigned from the committee.
36:07He was upset about something.
36:09So, Mr. Khan has called them.
36:11They are old friends.
36:13They will sit and come out happily.
36:15Okay.
36:17Ms. Shandana and Mr. Shehryar
36:19do not know about you.
36:21Yesterday, I asked Mr. Rauf
36:23why they are not able to meet.
36:25He said that they want to meet
36:27but are not able to.
36:29So, Mr. Rauf said that
36:31he will check and tell
36:33Mr. Shehryar
36:35why they are not able to meet.
36:39Yesterday,
36:41I met Mr. Shehryar
36:43in Ramzan.
36:47His next meeting is due.
36:49I can confirm that.
36:51I am not in that committee.
36:53Whenever I go there,
36:55I take an order from the High Court.
36:57As a lawyer, I have an edge
36:59that you go there legally.
37:01Our political friends
37:03face issues because
37:05Mr. Nawaz Sharif
37:07used to meet 40 people.
37:09Mr. Khan meets only 6 people
37:11in a week.
37:132-3 consecutive people
37:15meet Mr. Rauf
37:17who has to deal with the media.
37:19Mr. Barista Gaur or Mr. Umar Bhai.
37:21You have 3 slots left.
37:23You have MNAs
37:25close to 90.
37:27Everyone wants to meet Mr. Khan.
37:29There is no restriction on anyone.
37:31No one is keeping anyone away.
37:33You just have to wait for your turn.
37:35There are 6 people
37:37but 3 slots are open.
37:393 of them are permanent MNAs.
37:41How many of them will you call?
37:43I think jail officials should
37:45relax and let their leaders
37:47meet their people.
37:49This will not harm the state.
37:51If 20 people come instead of 6.
37:53Did Mr. Khan say anything
37:55about your best friend,
37:57Mr. Barista Gaur?
37:59You are my best friend.
38:05I respect Mr. Marwat.
38:07He is my brother from Pathan.
38:09We have some differences
38:11but I like him
38:13because he is a brave man.
38:15He stood with the party
38:17in difficult times.
38:19Did Mr. Khan say anything about him?
38:21No.
38:23Maybe Mr. Khan will meet him soon.
38:25According to my knowledge,
38:27Mr. Marwat is out of the country.
38:33He can meet Mr. Khan anytime.
38:35He is a lawyer.
38:37What is your opinion on this?
38:39Are you surprised
38:41that on Eid,
38:43Sheikh Rasheed
38:45made a TV program
38:47and said that he was wronged.
38:49It is a shame.
38:51Then Mr. Fawad, Ali Zaidi,
38:53all these people
38:55have started speaking
38:57in the last 25-30 days.
38:59Are you surprised?
39:03I don't raise
39:05anyone's question.
39:07It is surprising
39:09that so many people
39:11have come to the media.
39:13They want to come back
39:15to their community.
39:17But there are some things
39:19that are in the way.
39:21Some people who have made sacrifices
39:23have their own standing.
39:25But those who are helpless
39:27have their own helplessness.
39:29These are the things that
39:31Imran Khan will deal with himself.
39:33It is reassuring for him
39:35that the person
39:37with whom he spent
39:39so many years of his life,
39:41the same leader will deal
39:43with his case.
39:45Neither Ali Muhammad
39:47nor anyone else will do it.
39:49Sheikh Sahib
39:51has been with Imran Khan for a long time.
39:53I tried to get him
39:55involved in his case.
39:57I thought that he
39:59had taken the trouble for Imran Khan.
40:01You stood up
40:03against him in the elections.
40:05Sheikh Sahib did not get
40:07God, nor did he get Bisaal-e-Sanam.
40:09What did you do?
40:11I raised another point.
40:13At that time, I tried
40:15to get him involved.
40:17He should get a ticket.
40:19He could not get it.
40:21Allah will do better.
40:23I also raised another point
40:25in the National Assembly.
40:27I think that whether
40:29Sheikh Rashid agrees with him
40:31or not, he is a senior politician
40:33with 2-3 decades of experience.
40:35The way he was treated
40:37is a matter of concern for all of us.
40:39The arrest and prison
40:41is a legal process.
40:43How he was treated
40:45The National Assembly said in front of the Prime Minister that this is very alarming.
40:49Why did this happen to a senior politician?
40:51Whether he is our ally or not, whether he is someone's friend or not,
40:54but he is a senior Pakistani politician.
40:57Doesn't he have his respect and legal rights?
41:00Why did this happen to him?
41:01This is for all of us, for the ILMA.
41:03Mr. Ali, this is the last point.
41:06Do you consider this victory to be a victory for the ILMA?
41:17Look, calling it a victory is a very big development.
41:25You cannot connect it to the Cypher case because the ILMA is not like that.
41:31They are free people.
41:32They talk about themselves.
41:33They even talk against their party.
41:35Their senators and members of the House of Representatives,
41:39their congressmen, they talk about their issues to a great extent.
41:44Like in the Iraq war, a lot of congressmen went against the government.
41:48They voted.
41:49Similarly, in the Afghan war, a lot of congressmen, sitting government,
41:52went against their own people.
41:53So they expressed their opinion on what they thought was wrong in Pakistan.
41:57But the real thing is the Cypher.
42:00Connecting it to the Cypher was a government decision.
42:05It was a threat from the government, from the State Department,
42:08to remove this person.
42:09If they don't remove him, then Pakistan will have to face serious consequences.
42:14Imran Khan's stand against it is absolutely not.
42:17That is the real stand.
42:19That is why we suggested to the government in the National Assembly
42:22that if you want to bring a contract, then put Cypher in it.
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