Witness No 3 S01E02
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00:00Thanks again for coming forward.
00:08Those appeals for information, a lot of people just keep their heads down.
00:12Witness number three.
00:13Glamorous.
00:14Was he killed?
00:15He's dead, right?
00:16Detective Whelan, she mentioned other witnesses.
00:20The other two witnesses are out.
00:21Can't use them anymore.
00:22Sorry to bother you, but can I borrow your phone?
00:24An eyewitness testimony like yours, Jodie, that's what could make or break this case.
00:29Maybe in the meantime.
00:30I won't let you scare me off, I'm signing the statement.
00:42You'll need to acknowledge that the items we're providing are reasonable security and
00:48not an inducement to get testimony.
00:58The contractors will always carry ID and you'll be notified in advance if they're coming.
01:03We've provided you the list of potential weak spots.
01:12We've got window alert alarms stuck to the inside of the windows, we've got class B shatterproof
01:17film on all internal windows so the glass can't be forced inwards, and the front door
01:21has been fitted with a fire retardant let's box with an intermittent liner.
01:25It's to protect against the possibility of petrol being poured in through from the exterior
01:28of the property.
01:29Fine.
01:30Thanks.
01:31Now, is there anything else there that we need to go through, anything that we've left
01:42off?
01:43No.
01:44I mean, it's a lot, but no, it's good.
01:47Now, remember, we've set up a parallel case to investigate the witness intimidation.
01:51We're going to follow up on these mobile numbers, see if they lead us anywhere.
01:55Are you still receiving messages?
01:57Yeah.
01:58In fact, he's, um, he's started sending pictures of himself.
02:06He always, uh, he puts a filter on them or something so I can't see his face properly.
02:12Yeah, well, send them over, please, and my advice would be don't open any new messages
02:17that come in.
02:18You're doing a brave thing, Jodie, and it will pay off.
02:23We have the suspect charged and remanded in custody.
02:26Your house and workplace is secure.
02:30Trust me.
02:52Jodie?
03:22Jodie, you changed the locks.
03:52Well, at least they seem to be taking it seriously.
04:17Yeah, you can say that again.
04:20Living under lock and key, letting them know where I am at all times.
04:25It's like being a teenager all over again.
04:29Well, I'm proud of you.
04:32Nah.
04:33Yes, I am.
04:36I mean, it's good to stick together.
04:40That's what I've always said.
04:45Yeah.
04:51I'll get it.
04:52No, no, you'll go upstairs and not listen in, OK?
04:56What go?
04:57Upstairs.
05:02Hurry up.
05:03I'm going.
05:04Look, at least it was only the salon.
05:21Maybe...
05:22You know, I'm not saying this is a good thing.
05:24Of course I'm not.
05:25But maybe this was sort of what you needed, in a way.
05:28To see how serious it was.
05:32I signed the statement.
05:34What?
05:35I signed the witness statement yesterday morning.
05:39After this happened?
05:41You signed the statement anyway, after this happened?
05:43We need to stand up for each other.
05:45If I do, others will too.
05:47Jesus.
05:49I don't believe this.
05:51I got tired of people telling me what to do.
05:56I just...
05:57I don't know where this has come from.
05:59I saw this.
06:00It's like I'm talking to a stranger.
06:02I didn't call you yesterday because I knew you'd try and change my mind.
06:07I knew you wouldn't get it.
06:09What's to get?
06:10A week ago, you couldn't wait to leave this place.
06:12Now you're risking your life for it.
06:13Yeah, yeah, I should probably crack on, OK?
06:15What do you want from me, Jo?
06:17I want you to support me.
06:20Can you do that?
06:30MUSIC PLAYS
06:44Can I ask you something?
06:46At the moment, my statement's the key part of this case.
06:48That's right, isn't it?
06:51Their team is still looking for more evidence.
06:54Hopefully, by the time of the trial, they'll have what they need.
07:00Yeah, but now, as far as the defendant's concerned,
07:03if I'm gone, he walks.
07:05That's the reason for all this, right?
07:07At the moment.
07:08But what about the other witnesses?
07:10Maybe if we told them that I was seeing it through...
07:12That's not going to happen now.
07:13Yeah, but maybe if they knew I was signing the statement...
07:15Like I said, that's a dead end, Jodie. I'm sorry.
07:24So this is a list of everything that we've installed in your flat,
07:27including the CCTV that we're putting in tomorrow.
07:30We just need you to sign it here to confirm...
07:36Sorry, just to confirm that all this...
07:41Sorry, mate, could you just stop for a minute?
07:49You OK?
07:51Yeah.
07:52Look, the thing is, these gangs, they're not stupid.
07:56They know that it's over now.
07:58You're going to court and they can't stop you doing that.
08:01Look, nine times out of ten, these things stop.
08:04The moment the witness signs the form.
08:06And the tenth?
08:08What happens the tenth time?
08:12I think he's trolling this guy. Just give me a second.
08:22DOOR KNOCKS
08:53DOOR KNOCKS
09:01Sorry.
09:06All signed?
09:07No, I'll do it now.
09:11OK.
09:22DOOR KNOCKS
09:53DOOR KNOCKS
10:03DOOR KNOCKS
10:05Who is it?
10:06I'm looking for Tyler Rochoe.
10:08I said, who is it?
10:10My name's Jodie Packer. I live a few streets away.
10:14I'm another witness.
10:17How many times does he have to say it?
10:19He ain't going to change his mind.
10:24It's over.
10:26Listen, I think we can stop these guys.
10:29What are you deaf?
10:31I said, leave us alone.
10:34Leave us alone.
11:04MUSIC FADES
11:26They filmed the whole thing.
11:28Sent me a video of the whole thing.
11:31See, you don't fight these people.
11:33Tyler... You run.
11:35The thing is, they want us to think we're alone in this.
11:38If you sign the statement, that makes it twice as hard for him.
11:41Better still, if we can get the second witness...
11:43Pat, he died last week.
11:46Don't worry, it weren't nothing to do with this.
11:49Right.
11:50Right, well, even if it was just the two of us...
11:53Listen, it ain't happening.
11:55I ain't risking my life, my family's safety, for this.
11:59This? This could be the whole area.
12:02Your friends, your neighbours...
12:04So? It's a shithole.
12:08You know what the police offered me after all this?
12:11A new lock and a few alarms.
12:14The kids in the video, they had knives.
12:17And they had hammers.
12:19Tyler, if we stick together, I promise you, if we work as a team...
12:22You're not hearing me. There is no team.
12:24There is no together.
12:26How long have you lived here?
12:28Nearly ten years.
12:30Right. Right, so you know...
12:33When you first came here, things were different.
12:36This gang, they came here and things got nasty.
12:38You can feel that, right?
12:41This is our chance to fix it.
12:44This is our chance to finally get rid of them.
12:47These guys are going to kill you.
12:50I'm sorry to be so cold, but look!
12:54And you're telling me you're seriously doing it?
12:56For some dodgy area? For this?
13:23So you hated looking at old photos?
13:40Why are you looking at them?
13:42I don't know.
13:45Do you remember that day?
13:47Yeah.
13:48Look at your face there.
13:51Listen, why don't you go up and start your homework
13:53and I'll bring you up a snack, yeah?
14:20Fuck you.
14:50Fuck you.
15:20Are you OK?
15:42You see how close I am?
15:44You see how close I am to you now?
15:46Excuse me?
15:47That's how easy it is.
15:49What?
15:50We're already inside.
15:52In your house.
15:54I said we're already inside and we have the police.
15:56Who are you and why are you saying this to me?
15:58We have the police.
16:00Find out for yourself.
16:01Look into the second witness if you don't believe me.
16:03Who asked you to say this?
16:06Lloyd George.
16:09We have the police.
16:1152 Lloyd George.
16:1452 Lloyd George.
16:17I don't know who you are
16:19but you don't have to...
16:21you don't have to say anything.
16:23I can't.
16:24Where are you going?
16:25I can't.
16:47All right, love.
16:48Nearly done.
16:50Was this scheduled?
16:52It should have been.
16:54Now,
16:56panic alarm.
16:58You hear anything you don't like,
17:00you press the button.
17:01You see something you don't like, you press the button.
17:03Anywhere in the house.
17:05Now that sends a signal down to this
17:07and this sends a distress call to the police.
17:10Now if the light is flashing red, you've got a problem.
17:12You want it solved.
17:14Now, keep that close by your bed
17:16wherever you can reach it quickly.
17:18Do you do many of these?
17:20Yeah, plenty.
17:22And do they keep people safe?
17:24Well,
17:26all the stuff we've done for you,
17:28the only way anyone gets in here
17:30is if someone lets them in.
17:33You'll be all right, love.
17:37Cheers.
17:39Cheers.
17:42Cheers.
17:48And this woman just sat beside you.
17:51She's probably a customer of theirs.
17:53An addict.
17:54They take away her supply
17:56or for freebies, cancel her debt.
17:58In exchange, she runs them an errand.
18:00An errand?
18:03Look, what I meant was
18:05that it's not uncommon
18:07for trade-offs like that to be made.
18:09She could be the parent of a kid who's in trouble.
18:11We see that a lot.
18:13And they start doing jobs
18:15just to keep their son or daughter safe.
18:18Jesus.
18:20So you're basically saying keep my eyes peeled
18:22because they could have pretty much anyone in their pocket.
18:27What is it?
18:31She said they have the police.
18:35They're trying to unsettle you.
18:37They're trying to unsettle you.
18:39That's all.
19:07Just shows it's working, though.
19:09That's the thing.
19:11With social media, you can do that.
19:13Now, can't you?
19:15Spread the truth.
19:17Are you a journalist?
19:19No.
19:21I've contacted a few.
19:23Locals, nationals.
19:25They're going to call me back.
19:27They're going to call me back.
19:29They're going to call me back.
19:31They're going to call me back.
19:33They're going to call me back.
19:35They're going to call me back.
19:37They're all interested.
19:39I sent them the article already.
19:41It's all written up and everything.
19:43They don't even need to do anything.
19:47Police aren't interested, of course.
19:49Why would they be?
19:51Hurts them, doesn't it?
19:53What does?
19:55Investigating their own.
19:57I'll live with my brother my whole life.
19:5926 years
20:01he's been diabetic like this.
20:03Two injections a day
20:05for 26 years.
20:07You know how many that is?
20:09Over 18,500.
20:11I've done the maths.
20:13It's all in the article.
20:1518,500 and never a mistake.
20:17All of a sudden,
20:19he's a witness in this case.
20:21Bang.
20:23Injects himself twice.
20:25Hyperglycemic coma.
20:27Dies in the ambulance.
20:29And here's the thing.
20:31Because they'll tell you it was
20:33stress or whatever.
20:35A change in routine.
20:37Well, if it was
20:39stress, how come we
20:41ain't missing a vial from the fridge?
20:43Eh?
20:45He's injected himself twice.
20:47But we ain't missing a vial.
20:49Someone's brought one in.
20:51And I can tell you
20:53for a fact
20:55that there's nobody been in here
20:57apart from him,
20:59me, and the police.
21:03Do you remember
21:05which police officers were here?
21:11No.
21:13That's the problem.
21:15Probably eight or nine coming and going
21:17that day.
21:19But it was one of them.
21:21Believe you me, it was one of them.
21:29I see him.
21:31I see him.
21:59I see him.
22:29Good.
22:31Mask on.
22:33You ready?
22:35It's fucking now.
22:43Fucking mask on.
22:45It's now. It's tonight.
22:47Yeah.
22:59Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
23:01Yeah.
23:03Oh, oh, oh, oh.
23:05Mask on.
23:13Here we are.
23:15It's fucking now.
23:23Oi.
23:25Not far now, boys. Not far now.
23:29Oi.
23:37Oi.
23:41Wait.
23:43Come on.
23:45Come on, boys.
23:59Come on.
24:07She's all right.
24:09She's all right.
24:11She's all right.
24:31Do you recognise this?
24:41Do you recognise this?
25:11Do you recognise this?
25:41Oh.
26:07Oh.
26:09Come on.
26:11Oh, Jesus.
26:13Jesus Christ.
26:21Oh, my God.
26:27Oh, my God.
26:29Oh, my God.
26:31Oh, my God.
26:39Oh, my God.
27:09Oh, my God.
27:25Enough.
27:27Enough, OK? I am out.
27:29Thankfully, she's going to be all right.
27:31Did you not hear me? I said I'm out.
27:33It's not as simple as that.
27:35Oh, yes, it is. It is.
27:37Jodie.
27:41Jodie.
27:51Listen, I will.
28:07She'll also count on the fact
28:09that in cases like these, the original statement
28:11will carry enough weight with the jury.
28:13Well, I'll say I can't remember.
28:15Well, then she knows if the judge thinks you're lying,
28:17they'll hold you in contempt, of course.
28:19I'll say something, won't I?
28:21That's a charge that carries a two-year prison sentence, Jodie.
28:23Look, we are your team.
28:25Do you understand?
28:29You can't change sides.
28:33Look, as far as your safety is concerned,
28:35I think we have two choices.
28:37First, we look at relocation.
28:39Just until the trial... Relocation?
28:41Relocation. This is my home.
28:43This is the whole fucking point.
28:47Or...
28:49we strengthen
28:51the hands that were already playing.
28:55We select a room in your flat,
28:57most likely upstairs,
28:59and we turn it into what's called
29:01a strong room.
29:03In the unlikely, and I mean unlikely,
29:05event of them breaching
29:07the measures that we've already installed,
29:09the strong room acts as a sort of
29:11last line of defence.
29:13It'll have a reinforced
29:15steel door, supplies
29:17and a separate phone line.
29:19Give it some thought.
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32:07You okay, Joe?
32:11Uh, yeah.
32:13Yeah, I'm fine.
32:17Ahem.
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32:29Joe?
32:31Joe?
32:33Thank God she's gonna be okay.
32:37How did you know we were here?
32:39What?
32:41Who told you we were here?
32:43One of the policemen at the house.
32:45Should they not have?
32:47Listen, enough messing about.
32:49I don't care about this stupid argument we're having.
32:51You and Kyle, come to mine. Get out of the estate.
32:53Oh, oh, oh, the estate's the problem, is it?
32:55Jesus, I'm trying to help.
32:57Why don't you want me at my own home?
32:59You're not serious?
33:01Why is everyone trying to control what I am doing?
33:03Jodie, I'm offering you a way out.
33:05Come with me.
33:07We can... I can take you somewhere.
33:09Somewhere safe.
33:11No, no, no. Enough people protecting me, okay?
33:13Enough people.
33:17Sure.
33:19Come on.
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34:13Come here.
34:15Come here.
34:17Come here.
34:21You okay?
34:23Yeah.
34:25Come here.
34:27Come here.
34:31Are you okay?
34:33Yeah, yeah. I'm fine.
34:35Come here.
34:39I've got a headache.
34:41Yeah, I can imagine.
34:49Listen, I've had a chance to think about it, and I think, yeah.
34:51Yeah, we should go with the relocation.
34:53Let's just do it, and then I can
34:55come back off of the trial.
34:57I'm afraid that option is
34:59off the table now. What?
35:01Well, I told you that we'd set up
35:03a team to investigate the witness intimidation.
35:05Their main focus has been to
35:07try and trace the phone numbers that were used to contact
35:09you and send you photos and videos.
35:11Now, we know this is
35:13a technical error, but unfortunately,
35:15one of the contacts in the message
35:17history hit a flag.
35:19I don't understand.
35:21But this is the SMS history
35:23of the phone that's been messaging you.
35:25And in the last week,
35:27on three separate occasions, the phone
35:29was used to send the same messages to
35:31all of its contacts.
35:33Included in those contacts
35:35is this number.
35:37It's paid to go from registered to...
35:39Yeah.
35:41I know
35:43whose number that is.
35:45It belongs to your ex-husband.
35:47Benji died eight years ago.
35:49They have his number because
35:51they probably sold to him and never deleted it.
35:53We know.
35:55No one was attacked.
35:57This has nothing
35:59to do with Benji. We know.
36:01But what our systems see,
36:03unfortunately,
36:05is just the number of a former associate.
36:07A former associate? She didn't mean it like that.
36:09Look, it's a connection
36:11they have to rule out so as they can be sure
36:13this is all just connected to the witness
36:15intimidation.
36:17Once that happens,
36:19they'll release the funding
36:21and we can get relocation back on the table.
36:23And in the meantime?
36:25You tell me
36:27what happens in the meantime.
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37:12Jodie.
37:14I can hear your hands shaking.
37:16Sorry.
37:18I'm good.
37:20I'm good.
37:22I'm good.
37:24I'm good.
37:26I'm good.
37:29Honestly, don't worry about me.
37:31I'm good. Okay, Mum?
37:33I'm fine.
37:35The nurse said I could stay the night
37:37because it's a private room or something.
37:39You can stay as long as you like.
37:41Okay.
37:43Okay, but, um,
37:45get a cab from Dave, all right, love?
37:47Just tell him I'll pay when you arrive, yeah?
37:50Okay.
37:54Mwah!
37:59We've deleted your late husband's number
38:01from the registry,
38:03and we've made sure that the phone company
38:05discontinues the connection.
38:07The minute we have this sorted with the CPS,
38:09we can move forward with the relocation,
38:11if that's what we all still want.
38:14It is all gonna be fine.
38:16We're on your side, Jodie.
38:19I just think with the messages,
38:21the short man and the woman, you know,
38:23I've been losing it a bit.
38:25Some of the things that have been said...
38:28It's okay.
38:30They've got into your head.
38:32Like, that's completely understandable.
38:34It's gonna be all right.
38:36But nothing is going to happen to you, Jodie.
38:39You're gonna take this guy to trial
38:41and get rid of the gang for good.
38:48Yeah.
38:51Yeah.
38:53Yeah.
38:55Okay, then.
38:57I've checked everything down here.
38:59It's all good.
39:01I'll let PC Barker sign off upstairs.
39:04Are you okay?
39:07Yeah.
39:09Okay.
39:11Take care.
39:21So, let me get this straight.
39:24You've basically been thinking that the police,
39:28me, her, all of us,
39:31we're the ones that are lying?
39:38Look, you wouldn't be human if this wasn't getting to you.
39:42You're doing amazing.
39:51I should check the serial numbers upstairs.
39:55For the warranties.
39:57Right.
40:21Beep.
40:23Beep.
40:25Beep.
40:27Beep.
40:50Beep.
41:10I could see him from the door.
41:13Sorry.
41:15That was a bit dramatic.
41:17Yeah.
41:19Hey.
41:21Upstairs, you were checking the registration number, wasn't it?
41:23Yeah. Yeah, all good.
41:25Good.
41:27Yeah.
41:29Listen, um...
41:31No, I should...
41:33Yeah, I'm glad you stayed.
41:37I really appreciate it.
41:41It's my job.
41:43Yeah.
41:49God.
41:51I really shouldn't...
41:53No. No, sorry.
42:19I'm sorry.
42:49I'm sorry.
43:19I'm sorry.
43:49I'm sorry.
44:03You ready to become a man?
44:07It can't be you.
44:09Don't be bringing the knife back here.
44:19No!
44:21No!
44:23No!
44:49No!