Blackpool North candidates asked why there is a lack of proportional representation when it comes to other parties in power

  • 3 months ago
The Blackpool Gazette and Blackpool Lead invited the candidates standing for the Blackpool North constituency at next month's general election to a hustings in which they fielded questions from voters.

The candidates standing for election on 4th July were each given 90 seconds to answer questions from an audience at a Cleveleys venue.

Six out of the eight people on the ballot took part in the event with Jeannine Creswell (Social Democratic Party) missing and a stand-in taking the place of the absent Lorraine Beavers.

In order of appearance on stage:

PAUL MAYNARD (Conservative Party)
JAMES RUST (Monster Raving Loony Party)
GITA GORDON (Independent)
BILL GREENE (Liberal Democrats)
TINA ROTHERY (Green Party)
DAN BARKER (Reform UK)
CLIVE GRUNSHAW (Labour [Stand-in])
Transcript
00:00Would the candidates please explain why you do or do not want people like me to be represented
00:10in Lancashire. Proportional representation. Hundreds of thousands of people across Lancashire
00:19have no chance whatsoever of having a Liberal Democrat, a Green or a Reform MP. Why on earth
00:29not? I'm possibly the only Conservative MP who's ever brought a bill forward to the
00:38House of Commons to introduce proportional representation. So I think my record that
00:43you can read in Hansard stands for itself. Thank you Paul. So Reform UK's state policy
00:55as well as a lot of other reforms to the electoral process and the Lords is to introduce proportional
00:59representation. That's very clear. And I would say that Labour have said that for such a long
01:03time. They smell the chance of a big majority now and lo and behold Keir Starmer has backed off.
01:09There'll be no proportional representation. But when you think about the Brexit party who got
01:14four million votes and got no seats or maybe one seat and then you've got the SNP in Scotland who
01:21got three million votes and got 50 odd seats. There's something fundamentally wrong about that
01:25process where people's intentions and preferences for who they see in the House of Parliament is
01:30not represented in the seats. So I would say you should ask Conservatives and Labour why they're
01:34not willing to give people what they want and allow proportional representation. It is a debate
01:44within the Labour Party. It has been for quite a while now. The Labour Party have said they've got
01:49other priorities in the immediate future and I think dealing with the cost of living crisis
01:55and a lot of the other economic situations to make sure that we are stabilised is really important.
02:02But I will say on a personal point of view that I agree that I do think that actually politics
02:08should be more inclusive. That actually we should have a look at electoral reform and ways in which
02:14we can make sure that people's votes do count more than they do under this system. At the moment
02:21this seems to be the best of the worst systems we've got. But there's got to be a better way of
02:30doing things. It's an ongoing debate and I do think you make a valid point.
02:39So the first-past-the-post voting system that we have keeps us stuck in this two-vote race where it will
02:44either be Labour or it will be Tory and so as I just heard that hesitancy of what you said
02:50Clive, you said well we're going to deal with the cost of living crisis and I can hear the future
02:55Labour government. We're going to deal with that and then we're going to deal with this and then
02:58we're going to deal with that. I'm going to keep on pushing this can further down the road even
03:02though 70 percent of the membership said they wanted proportional representation. So how dare
03:07they ignore their membership and if they ignore their membership what the hell are they going to
03:11do with the majority to the rest of the country?
03:18If I recall it correctly I think there was a discussion some years ago in 2007 or something
03:27and at that time Labour did not support it. They in fact wrote to everybody saying that
03:33oh this is not the correct form of voting or election procedure or something. I think it
03:40was pushed down ages ago. Thank you.

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