In an interview with ITV's Tonight programme, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has been challenged on how much he can grow the economy if he is prime minister.
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00:00It just seems to me that growth is sort of the new magic money tree, though.
00:03What kind of growth do you want?
00:04Do you want 1%, 2%, 3%?
00:05What do you want?
00:06The highest sustained growth in the G7.
00:07So what is that, roughly?
00:08Which is ambitions.
00:09Well, the highest sustained growth, I mean, that will be determined over time.
00:12But to be the top of the G7, what I don't expect.
00:14You have to appreciate that is slightly meaningless, because it could just be 0.1%.
00:17We could even be in recession and still be better off than the rest of the G7.
00:20Yeah, we want significant growth.
00:21You don't know.
00:22I don't accept this defeatism.
00:24I understand the challenge you're putting to me.
00:26It would be nice to have a ballpark figure of how large you want the economy to be in
00:30five years' time.
00:31Under the last Labour government, we grew by about 2.5%.
00:35So you're looking for that kind of growth, 2.5%?
00:37Certainly, yes.