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00:00In an interview with Mohammad Zubair, he said that he met Mian Sahib in London the day after his death.
00:08First of all, can you tell us when these meetings took place or whether they took place or not?
00:16Look, according to my information, Zubair Sahib has said this in an estimate.
00:25He himself is saying that I had heard it from somewhere, so I said it by hearing it.
00:32I do not have any evidence. I do not have any confirmation.
00:36So the matter is that his information is wrong. He said it by hearing it.
00:44I did not meet Mian Nawaz Sharif's back, Javed Bajwa Sahib, when this matter was being discussed in the vote of no confidence.
00:57Who did you meet then, Mian Sahib?
00:59No, I did not meet Mian Sahib in this regard.
01:06All this activity was going on here in Pakistan.
01:11This has been discussed many times before that in the opposition or in the PDM and in the People's Party,
01:23there was a different opinion on the same thing.
01:27The position of the People's Party was that the vote of no confidence should be brought.
01:31Whereas, the position of our PM and Maulana Fazl Rahman was that the vote of no confidence should be brought
01:41until the establishment is neutral.
01:43Until then, they are bringing their people to pass the budget.
01:53On the occasion of the budget, an MNA of Muzaffargarh was called by the establishment from here
02:01that if you want to come on a plane with respect, then we will send a plane.
02:08And if you do not want to come with respect, then we will send people.
02:13So when the budget will be voted on tomorrow, you have to reach there.
02:18I will tell you this news in the Parliament Lodges.
02:22When this was the case, then we had this opinion that how can this vote of no confidence be done?
02:34But as soon as this came to light that the establishment has become neutral,
02:45then we checked it. We sent some people to talk to them.
02:50Sir, they were not the people who went in the car.
02:53No, no, they were not our people.
02:58They were the people of those allies who were the allies of Imran Khan.
03:03And they were very annoyed with him.
03:05They were Nanas.
03:07When they went, they said that what is the order?
03:10So the answer came from the front that you do whatever you want.
03:14We have decided that what has happened has happened.
03:18Now we are neutral.
03:20Which party was this? Was it MKM?
03:22After that, our program was made that no confidence may be possible.
03:28So we tried it.
03:29So when we tried, it was successful.
03:32These were not the people of MKM?
03:34Mr. Nanas, or those who do whatever they want?
03:37In any case, you will start commenting on this.
03:41You will start asking questions on this.
03:44Rana Sanaullah has said about you.
03:47Now you tell me, who went? How did he go? What happened?
03:51But in any case, I am confirming this to you.
03:54Sir, the sentence you said, I heard it from a friend of MKM.
03:57I am not making any assumptions like Mr. Zubair.
04:00The sentence you said that do whatever you want, he is a friend of MKM.
04:03In fact, when I tell you a big incident,
04:05Do you remember that all your party leaders went to the parliament lodges to convince MKM?
04:10And at that time, MKM got a call.
04:12According to the procedure, you will get a call.
04:14So you wanted a press conference at that time.
04:17You remember Mr. Zardari, Mr. Bilawal, Mr. Shahbaz.
04:19You wanted a press conference.
04:20He said, you will get a call tomorrow, you don't have to go.
04:22Then the next day when he called, he said, do whatever you want.
04:25I said, sir, it is your wish, it means go.
04:28But this is what Mr. Khawaja said yesterday, Mr. Nanas.
04:32Mr. Bajwa was in touch.
04:34There was a chance for an extension.
04:36We were contacted.
04:37We decided to vote in favor of the extension.
04:40It was my responsibility to support it in the assembly.
04:43General Faiz met me on behalf of General Bajwa.
04:45We are talking about 2019.
04:47So you were in touch with the establishment from 2019.
04:51The meaning of contact is that the people of the establishment,
04:56or if you talk about the army chief or DG ISI,
05:03they live in the same country.
05:07They have relations with their people here.
05:12It is not that they are residents of some other country
05:16and have never been in contact with them.
05:19They have been in contact with everyone.
05:24When they have been coming to the parliament for briefings,
05:29they have also met people like us.
05:32So those with whom they had a relationship or knew each other,
05:37they have been in contact with them.
05:39Sir, tell me one thing, you met Mr. Shahbaz, right?
05:41Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
05:43The one who listens to the story of the car's diggy.
05:45No, no, that is a story about the diggy.
05:48This is a story for a story.
05:54What is the need to go to the diggy?
05:57You can put a paper on the car's window and go wherever you want.
06:04So you went to France, but you are saying that you met Mr. Shahbaz at that time.
06:09No, I have met Mr. Shahbaz often.
06:15For example, when there have been two briefings,
06:18it has happened during that time as well.
06:20It has happened before that as well.
06:22When a case was made against me, Mr. Shahbaz himself told me
06:28that I had spoken to Mr. Bajwa and asked him what was happening.
06:33So, this matter, this kind of thing,
06:38it was not that Mr. Bajwa was living in some other country or was an enemy.
06:46He was the head of an institution in this country.
06:50So, this kind of relationship.
06:53So, you were the head of an institution, Mr. Shahbaz was the head of a political party.
06:57If my time frame is correct, Mr. Rana,
07:00So, this series of meetings started in 2019.
07:03He said that General Faiz came to meet me.
07:06In June, he said that after two to four months, the Punjab government
07:10and in December, the government of Wafaaq will give it to you.
07:13This was offered to you at that time.
07:16No, look, Mr. Kashif Abbasi, look,
07:20talks are held in different ways.
07:24Some things are done halfway.
07:27Then the other thing is connected.
07:29So, stories are made like this.
07:31The matter is that the army or the institution,
07:38this DGI's own posting or transfer posting,
07:45the kind of treatment that was done on it by Imran Khan Sahib,
07:50by the Prime Minister,
07:52I think that at the level of the institution,
07:57at the level of the institution,
07:59it was felt a lot.
08:01And after that, it was decided that we will come out of this thing.
08:08Sir, but the time frame that Khwaja Sahib is telling, Mr. Rana,
08:11this is from 2019.
08:13Our information is that there was a formal debate.
08:16After that, the institute decided at the institutional level
08:21that we do not want to get involved in these things.