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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, hello and welcome to Surf Excel present ICC T20 World Cup special transmission powered by Lifebuoy Shampoo and supported by Phoenix Battery.
00:09I am your host, Najeeb-ul-Asnain.
00:11And today, in the World Cup Super 8, the most important defending champion, England, will face USA.
00:19With me is my panel, Kamran Akmal, Basit Ali and Shahid Ashmi. Assalam-o-Alaikum, welcome to the show once again.
00:24Shahid, let's start with you.
00:26The match-up that is being prepared for this match, obviously, there is a lot of difference between the two teams.
00:32They are facing each other for the first time in cricket.
00:34They have done it many times in rugby and football.
00:37So, how do you see it?
00:39And how important is it for England?
00:41And how do they have to win to go to the final four?
00:43Win your match.
00:44The main thing is two points.
00:45Because the net run rate, what will happen in the next match, all that is not in your control.
00:51That match is the next day.
00:52Somewhere else.
00:53Both the opponents are playing very good cricket.
00:56South Africa is also playing very good cricket.
00:58West Indies is also playing very good cricket.
01:00So, England should go and win their match.
01:02Win with a big margin.
01:03So that their net run rate improves further.
01:05And they reach the semi-final.
01:07Basit, what do you think about this match for England?
01:11Because England's campaign has been very up and down in the last three weeks.
01:16So, does England have what it takes to become the first team to successfully defend the title?
01:22I won't say defend the title.
01:24Right now, the opposition will face each other in the semi-final.
01:28Actually, it has been raining in England since the Pak-Chan series.
01:32There were two rains in that too.
01:34Then, it rained before the round.
01:37And even today, I have heard that the weather has improved a bit.
01:40But I think England will easily win.
01:45I don't feel that way.
01:47Okay.
01:48Kamran, do you think it will be easy for England, given the current situation?
01:56Look, the team is like this.
01:58We will make it easy.
01:59We will dominate with our approach.
02:01We will win with a good run rate.
02:03It's a settled team.
02:04They lost the last match almost winning it.
02:07So, I think England will make a strong comeback.
02:10You know that the USA team is not that big.
02:12It's an inexperienced team.
02:14And I think they have beaten Oman.
02:17They won't play this type of cricket.
02:19But they will win with such margins.
02:22Because the team is in form in terms of bowling and batting.
02:25So, I think they should play such a match.
02:27If they score two points,
02:28automatically, there will be pressure on the West Indies and South Africa teams.
02:31They will calculate who will win,
02:34and then they will play through.
02:35If they want to leave England behind,
02:37all those things will be visible.
02:38So, I think this will be seen in today's match.
02:41And they will win the match easily.
02:43Absolutely right.
02:44Let's take a look at the points table.
02:45Group 2, obviously.
02:47This is the match of Group 2.
02:49In which South Africa is on top,
02:51then West Indies,
02:53and then England and USA.
02:55So, here you can see,
02:57in terms of net run rate,
02:59West Indies' net run rate is very good.
03:02And the situation here is very interesting for them.
03:05Mr. Shahid, what are your thoughts on the points table?
03:09Look, England has to win their match,
03:11and increase their net run rate.
03:13Because even if South Africa loses to West Indies,
03:16and if they lose close,
03:17then their net run rate is still good.
03:19So, all these things will be in England's calculation.
03:22England also has data analysts,
03:24their coaches, etc.
03:25They must be watching everything.
03:27They know that the USA team can prove to be dangerous.
03:30So, they will play everything with guard.
03:32And it is obvious that if they win today's match,
03:35then their eyes will be on tomorrow's match,
03:37to see what happens to South Africa and West Indies.
03:39If West Indies loses,
03:40then it will be easier for England.
03:42But if South Africa loses,
03:44and loses with less margin,
03:45then the whole thing will be on the net run rate.
03:47Absolutely.
03:48Just like the matches that took place,
03:50if you look at the results,
03:52you will see the results of England's World Cup.
03:57Mr. Basit, as you were saying,
03:59the rain didn't leave them behind.
04:01And their match against Scotland was a no-result,
04:04which caused them a lot of trouble.
04:06They lost badly to Australia.
04:10After that, they made a comeback.
04:13And they won against Oman, Namibia,
04:16and West Indies.
04:17And in the match against South Africa,
04:19they looked a little off-color.
04:21The way the game was going on,
04:23it looked like England would win.
04:25I didn't think they would win.
04:28When England started batting,
04:32and they were 41-1 in power play,
04:34South Africa was dominating.
04:36But towards the end of the game...
04:37But when the average was 12.5 runs,
04:39and our bowler, Bartman,
04:41who bowled 21 runs,
04:43the match was transferred from there.
04:45But because you said England would win,
04:47they didn't win.
04:49They should have bowled 25 runs in 3 overs.
04:51And when Bartman came to bowl,
04:54in the 3rd over,
04:55he bowled 5 full tosses out of 6.
04:57Yes.
04:58If you think about it,
04:59he bowled 6 runs in 2 overs,
05:01and bowled 5 full tosses out of 6,
05:03so I think...
05:04You're inviting them.
05:06That's right.
05:07Levinston bowled very good innings.
05:09Then Harry Brooke bowled 50 runs.
05:12But when Levinston bowled out,
05:14I started doubting
05:15whether England would win.
05:17It was a close call.
05:18Yes.
05:19Because when the batsman finished,
05:21he bowled a full toss out.
05:23But I think they must have thought about it.
05:27They must have worked on it.
05:29England is a very dangerous team
05:31in today's and future matches.
05:32In terms of batting and bowling,
05:34I think England should win
05:36with a good margin.
05:37They should improve their run date
05:39so that they know
05:41how far they can go
05:43if they win 19-20 matches.
05:46They'll know how far they can go.
05:48That's right.
05:49Basit, are you thinking about it?
05:50No, I'm looking at the coaches.
05:52Jeetan Patel,
05:53he's a New Zealander off-spinner.
05:55He's a bowling coach.
05:57Neil Killen,
05:58I don't know who he is.
06:00Paul Collingwood,
06:01he's their first captain.
06:02Yes.
06:03He won the 2020 World Cup in 2010.
06:05Cascotic,
06:06he's a tremendous batsman.
06:08He's kept Pollard with him.
06:10Yes.
06:11And Flintoff.
06:12Flintoff.
06:13There are so many big names.
06:14So I think...
06:16Basit, I have a question for you
06:18and for Shahid.
06:19They have four assistant coaches.
06:22They've given their names.
06:23Yes, they've given their names.
06:24What would have happened
06:25if they were with the Pakistan team?
06:27Cascotic is their batting coach.
06:29Killen is their bowling coach.
06:31Paul Collingwood is their overall assistant coach.
06:34I'm saying the same thing.
06:35Flintoff too.
06:36But they've kept Pollard with them.
06:37Let's see how much they're benefitting from Pollard.
06:39Pollard is telling them about every ground,
06:41every venue.
06:42All the CPL editions have been played.
06:44He's telling them where and what to do.
06:46We don't agree with Pollard.
06:48No, no.
06:49We don't agree with Pollard.
06:50Look, this is just a planning.
06:52And power hitting,
06:54basically,
06:55is kept for that.
06:56In 2010,
06:57when the England team won,
06:59Pollard wasn't there.
07:00They had Andy Flowers.
07:02No, there's a lot of change.
07:04But look at their success.
07:06Look at their process.
07:07It wasn't just because of Pollard.
07:09It wasn't just because of 22.
07:10It wasn't just for power hitting.
07:12He told them about the venue,
07:14where to hit.
07:15Yes, of course.
07:16He gave his experience.
07:18Salt came and said,
07:20Pollard told me
07:22which end to run from.
07:23He did 87,
07:2460 from one end,
07:26and 27 from the other.
07:27These are very common things.
07:29He told you a lot of things.
07:30So it's for local knowledge.
07:31It's not for power hitting.
07:32He doesn't change everything.
07:33It's just for local knowledge.
07:35No, I just wanted to say
07:36that if he was on our team,
07:37we would have had a lot to talk about.
07:39Yes.
07:40There's so much
07:41dugout,
07:42so many coaches.
07:44Look, there are coaches.
07:46There are three batsmen
07:47from our team.
07:49There's no small name.
07:51It's a big name.
07:52He's played in all three formats.
07:54He has an idea.
07:55Look at Collingwood.
07:57Look at Pollard.
07:59Look at Flintoff.
08:01They don't have these things.
08:03Why do we have these things?
08:05There's a reason for that.
08:06The way you play,
08:07then there are these questions.
08:08You have such a big coaching team
08:10and you can't see the result.
08:12Now you've come out.
08:14Now you've got it.
08:15What you're trying to say,
08:16we know from the ground
08:18that there's no point in putting you out.
08:20What's the reason?
08:21When you bring the boys
08:22matured,
08:23they'll pick up quickly.
08:24That's what I mean.
08:26Our cricket board and selectors
08:27should understand
08:29which boy to bring.
08:31Gary Kessin,
08:32whatever time he's giving,
08:33it should be beneficial.
08:34Jason Gillespie,
08:35whatever time he's giving,
08:36it should be beneficial.
08:37It shouldn't be that the boys
08:38are under pressure.
08:39Because if you don't bring them
08:40matured,
08:41it won't be fun.
08:42Then we'll keep getting
08:43beaten up internationally.
08:44Right.
08:45You're going to such a big event.
08:47World Cup.
08:48And you don't have
08:49a spin bowling coach.
08:50What do you mean
08:51by that?
08:52They're people.
08:53Spin bowling wasn't there
08:54because we didn't
08:55feed the spinners.
08:56Our spinners were also
08:57batsmen.
08:58Our spinners were also
08:59batsmen.
09:00These are not
09:01criteria.
09:02Shadab has to be a
09:03batting all-rounder.
09:04You should have this.
09:05You don't need a
09:06spin bowling coach.
09:07Mr. Rajiv,
09:08you should have this.
09:09I saw a picture.
09:10In India.
09:11I saw a picture.
09:12You appointed
09:13Abdul Rehman
09:14as a spin bowling coach.
09:15If you had
09:16the talent,
09:17if you had
09:18the talent,
09:19if you had
09:21Mutstaw,
09:22if you had
09:23Saklein.
09:24Now you appointed
09:25Saeed Ajmal.
09:26Where is he?
09:28Listen to me.
09:30Do this.
09:32Do this.
09:33This is a waste
09:34but I wish
09:35that there are
09:36good spinners
09:37and good spinners
09:38too.
09:39Now,
09:40internationally,
09:41the demand is huge.
09:42You hire a psychic
09:43to stand support.
09:44We hire psychologists.
09:45There was a
09:46psychologist in Pakistan.
09:47Mark Read,
09:48who's known
09:49He'll give us a report about our players.
09:53It's very important to read his report.
09:55Psychologist will tell us about his approach.
09:58We'll need him after watching Pakistan's matches.
10:02I don't know if he's in the professional field or not.
10:05Do you know? He must be showing matches of others.
10:08Look at his body language.
10:10This is how you do it.
10:12Kamran, did you want to add anything to this?
10:13No, Shahid did it.
10:15There was Maqbool Babri in our World Cup.
10:19He was with us in 2010.
10:21Kamran will tell us about his contribution.
10:24He was a gentleman.
10:26He brought him to our time.
10:28He brought him in 2010.
10:32He was with us in India Tour in 2012.
10:34Does it help?
10:36Definitely.
10:37How to motivate a player who is under pressure?
10:42How to motivate him?
10:45His name was also like that.
10:47That's why I asked.
10:49Let's look at the results of USA.
10:52Don't show this.
10:53It's important to show this because it was a fairytale for them.
10:58Part-timers, boys who did other jobs.
11:01How they gave their 100% and came to Super 8.
11:05USA defeated Canada with 7 wickets.
11:08They defeated Pakistan in Super Over.
11:11It's not wrong to say that. First match and then Super Over.
11:14That's why he said no.
11:16They lost to India.
11:17The match was abandoned from Ireland.
11:19That's why he said no.
11:21To lose to India?
11:22No.
11:23Abandoned.
11:24The match was abandoned from Ireland.
11:26They lost 18 runs from South Africa.
11:28I can't tell you how close the match was.
11:32They showed a lot of effort.
11:34West Indies clearly showed them who is the better team.
11:38Now, they have more problems.
11:40Obviously, when good teams come, fully prepared teams,
11:44inexperienced teams get to know.
11:47They get to know.
11:48Qualifying in Super 8 is not less than winning the World Cup.
11:52They won it from Pakistan.
11:54They won their first match from Canada.
11:55It's a big achievement.
11:57The players they are playing,
11:59their player from Goa, Aaron Jones, Nitesh Kumar.
12:04He is a great player. I like him.
12:06Ali Khan.
12:07You forgot Muthra Valkar?
12:08He won the match.
12:10Saurabh Nath.
12:11Saurabh...
12:12Their team will get better.
12:16They have energy, fitness, they are working.
12:21They are not playing cricket full-time.
12:23Give them full-time cricket.
12:25Give them a contract.
12:26Whatever they get in a year, at least it should be close to them.
12:30They should come in full-time cricket.
12:31Make a good base.
12:33Give them credit for the work they did with this team.
12:38They should make a team for the next World Cup.
12:41It will happen when they get cricket.
12:43Stadiums are built, cricket is happening.
12:46It's important to have matches with them.
12:48Why is Afghanistan so good?
12:50They didn't stop playing cricket.
12:52They didn't play after 6 months.
12:54They are playing a series after 2-1.5 months.
12:57They should play like this.
12:59They have what Afghanistan team has.
13:02If they keep getting cricket, they can make this team.
13:05Absolutely right.
13:06Mr. Shahid, do you want to add anything?
13:07Some Pakistani players have left the USA.
13:10They have left in large numbers.
13:12In 2015, a player like Noman Anwar played for us.
13:16He was a batsman with good numbers.
13:18He was a hard-hitting batsman.
13:20Mukhtar played cricket for Pakistan, but we removed him.
13:24There are a lot of players from India.
13:26There is Hamad Azam, Sami Aslam, Zia.
13:29Zia is a fast bowler.
13:32Mukhtar and Noman have played cricket for Pakistan.
13:34There are a lot of players from India who will go to the Masters Cricket League.
13:38They are in the list A.
13:40There will be improvement.
13:41This is the first step to make them play.
13:43I was listening to Ali Khan's interview.
13:45He is a fast bowler.
13:46He is on Rashid Lateef's YouTube channel.
13:48He said that Pakistan has underestimated us.
13:51Pakistan has underestimated us.
13:53But Pakistan has not underestimated us.
13:56He is wrong.
13:57He is wrong.
13:57Pakistan has not underestimated us.
13:58They have underestimated us.
13:59Our players have underestimated us.
14:02It is a matter of the Pakistan team.
14:04You will not say individually.
14:07But Pakistan has always been like this.
14:10For the past few years,
14:13we have been defeated by weaker teams.
14:15We are struggling when we go out.
14:17This has always been a problem.
14:19We are promoting other teams' cricket.
14:21This is the problem right now.
14:24Let's go back to the past.
14:26Let's talk about 2007.
14:27It has been 3-4 years.
14:28Let's talk about 1999.
14:29After 1999, I was upset in 2007.
14:32Now, I am talking about Basit again and again.
14:34Which upset happened in 1999?
14:36We were defeated by Bangladesh.
14:38Okay.
14:40It has been a long time.
14:42Every other month, we get good news from Pakistan.
14:45Now, we are used to it.
14:47Now, Basit will talk about it.
14:49The thing is that
14:52the chairman, PCP, said that there will be a surgery.
14:57We were waiting for it.
14:58Will it happen or not?
15:00It will happen.
15:01If it doesn't happen,
15:02then we will go with cricket.
15:04There was a lot of opposition to it.
15:07The news was published during the war.
15:08The chairman of the board said that
15:11the chairman didn't use the word surgery.
15:13After the match in India,
15:15when he was out of Pakistan,
15:16he talked to a few journalists from Pakistan.
15:19He said that there was no sound bite on camera.
15:23The chairman didn't use the word surgery.
15:25The PCP said that through a newspaper.
15:28So, it didn't happen.
15:30He used the word surgery.
15:31It's simple.
15:33Why are you going to this extent?
15:34Selectors, chairman, cricket board.
15:36You can check and balance.
15:38The performance base deserves continuity.
15:41I am talking about the team.
15:42It's the management's job.
15:44It's a very simple formula.
15:45Why isn't it working?
15:46It hasn't been working for five years.
15:47I am saying the same thing.
15:48If it had worked for five years,
15:49the situation would have been different.
15:51If it had been simple,
15:52we would have been in the World Cup.
15:53I am saying the same thing.
15:55You are making it difficult.
15:57You are making it difficult.
15:59You should improve your selection process.
16:01You should improve your performance.
16:03You have ruined Pakistan's cricket by saying youngsters.
16:07The head of the selection committee of this country
16:11says that we are giving rest to Harish.
16:15We are giving rest to Harish.
16:17We were the ones.
16:18What should I say after this?
16:19We were the ones after the selection committee.
16:20There were two Kamran's in the selection committee.
16:23But was the word correct that Harish was given rest?
16:26I have played eight to ten matches.
16:30I have spoken to Wahab.
16:31Wahab was the final decision.
16:33I said that this was not right.
16:34If you had made a performance based drop,
16:36it would have been fine.
16:38But Wahab was the final decision
16:40of the team captain and the coach.
16:43He was the director, Hafeez.
16:44But in my opinion,
16:46you shouldn't have said that Wahab was given rest.
16:49You should have said that it was a simple drop.
16:50You should use this word for Babar.
16:52You should use it for Shaheen.
16:53You will understand the rest.
16:55He has played cricket for eight days.
16:58He was the favourite of any chairman.
17:01But this is an insult to cricket.
17:04You should have said that he was given rest.
17:05Wahab said that it was a simple drop
17:09because of the performance base.
17:11But I have a question.
17:13Weren't our selectors thinking that this would be the result?
17:17When you will take six openers
17:20and make all the openers play in the middle order?
17:22You don't let the boys play in the middle order.
17:24That's what I am asking.
17:26When you get a chance...
17:28Please let me speak.
17:30What do you think is the job of the selection committee?
17:35To identify the players.
17:38First of all, they check where the tournament is going to be played.
17:41What are the requirements there?
17:44Was there such a thought?
17:46You have sent five openers in New Zealand.
17:48I say six. Five.
17:51You didn't send anyone in the middle order who had a problem.
17:53So, this is the age.
17:55It's not easy to select, my friend.
17:58You are absolutely right.
17:59And it's easier to select five teams than a junior team.
18:03Obviously, you have all the probabilities.
18:05You know it.
18:06Actually, what can I say?
18:08People don't know.
18:09You selected 18 teams for England and Ireland.
18:12You had four players who had to serve you in the middle order.
18:17Azam Khan and Iftikhar, who eventually played in the World Cup.
18:20Agha Salman and Irfan Khan Niazi.
18:22You gave a chance to Irfan Khan Niazi.
18:25You sent Agha Salman back without serving him.
18:28So, why did you give him a chance?
18:29The biggest question is...
18:31Look at the top teams in the world.
18:35Two, three, four spinners.
18:37You didn't have a spinner.
18:38You were serving your spinner as an all-rounder.
18:41And his performance was such that he couldn't take a wicket.
18:45So, you didn't think that this would be the end of it.
18:48They don't know what God has given them.
18:53They don't know what they want.
18:56They have been friends.
18:57I said it on the first day and I still say it.
19:00Usama used to replace Shadab.
19:02Yes, that's right.
19:03Shadab's performance was great.
19:05If you look at PSL, Usama was better than him.
19:10What about Aamir Jamal?
19:12Muhammad Ali.
19:14Aamir Jamal was better than him.
19:16You kept Hassan Ali in the team.
19:18You took one fast bowler and replaced him with an all-rounder.
19:23And Azhar Mehmood, your assistant coach,
19:25who was the head coach on that tour,
19:27he praised Aamir Jamal so much in the press conference.
19:30And he wasn't in the team.
19:31Last night, we were talking about the wickets.
19:35There will be a slow and spinners' role.
19:38And if you talk about batting,
19:40what was Usama Nazim's role there?
19:43I told you earlier that he was taking Nazim and Saim with him.
19:49He had a great performance in CPL.
19:51I was saying that there is no guarantee that he will perform in CPL.
19:56He has performed in PSL.
19:58He couldn't perform against New Zealand in Pakistan.
20:01Will he be able to perform there?
20:03I don't think it's good.
20:04You gave him a tour of New Zealand.
20:06It didn't happen? Thank you.
20:07Give him another chance.
20:09He got another chance.
20:10Four matches. It's not a small match.
20:12He got six or eight matches earlier.
20:14He got four matches again.
20:15But he was adamant.
20:17I said, it's okay.
20:18Aamir Jamal and Usama.
20:21Then, like Basit said about the New Zealand tour,
20:24Farhan took it to the press conference.
20:29He said, I will play wherever the team wants me to play.
20:31I have played in the mid-order at four and five.
20:34If the team wants me, I will definitely play.
20:36So, I think the selection committee thought
20:41that he was a great mid-order player.
20:44And then, Shadab didn't let him go.
20:49Then, Fakhar.
20:50They started sending him there.
20:53So, I think that's why we sent him to the openers.
20:56I always say, you can't send five players in a big event.
20:59You can send seven players in a series.
21:01To give them experience.
21:03It's not like you send your senior players too.
21:05Then, you send the openers in the sixth or seventh.
21:08Haseebullah and Haseebullah.
21:10PSL was played at four numbers.
21:13Keep that in mind.
21:14That's why he went with the team.
21:17Then, when it comes to tours,
21:19it's the captain's and the coach's domain
21:22to decide which number to play.
21:23It's not at one page.
21:25We gave our clarity.
21:28They have ego problems.
21:30It's a simple thing.
21:31They can tell you better.
21:32But, we told them to utilize it like this.
21:35Get Babar and Razwan to rest for one or two matches.
21:39I know them very well.
21:43You needed a fast-balling all-rounder.
21:45When you selected Amit Jamal for the New Zealand series,
21:48you should have given him a proper chance.
21:50You should have given him three or four matches.
21:51You should have taken him to Ireland too.
21:53So, you could vary the conditions.
21:55It would have been proven whether he was needed or not.
21:58It would have been properly tested.
22:00Shahid, we are doing all this.
22:02Tell me one thing.
22:03How can a person come to a direct team after getting injured?
22:06Who asked you this?
22:08Tell me one thing.
22:09How can a person come to a direct team after getting injured?
22:11Shahid Naysiak didn't go to the team.
22:14He didn't go to Ireland.
22:15How are we taking cricket forward?
22:18We have made cricket in our pockets.
22:20We will play it the way we want to.
22:22If we play it like this,
22:23this will be the condition of cricket in Pakistan
22:25which we are seeing today.
22:26We were foreseeing this for a long time.
22:28This was bound to happen, Basit.
22:29Actually, we think that no one will know what we are doing.
22:34Alhamdulillah, we have played very few crickets.
22:37We know them.
22:37We have been with them.
22:39Whether it is Hafeez or anyone else.
22:41What did Hafeez say after the first test match?
22:44He said that Sarfaz is running.
22:45That is our first choice.
22:47I told a person that Sarfaz will not play the next test match.
22:53What did he say?
22:53Sarfaz will not play the next test match.
22:55He said that he will not be in the team.
22:56We know that.
22:57These kids are in front of us.
22:59Okay.
23:00I will tell you one thing.
23:03Whoever is in our batch,
23:05they should think before they speak.
23:07Whoever has played cricket with you for 10-15 years
23:09and has shared the dressing room with you.
23:10They understand everything.
23:11They understand everything.
23:12That is why we cannot say it publicly.
23:14If we say it, it will become a big headline.
23:17That's right.
23:18Let's take a break.
23:18We will continue the discussion later.
23:19Stay with us.
23:20Glad to have you back once again to our special transmission.
23:23During the break, Kamran,
23:25did you remember anything about the dressing room?
23:28There are a lot of things about the dressing room.
23:30I am talking about what I said earlier.
23:32We should talk in a way that
23:35we don't know what the next person will say.
23:38We should talk about the past.
23:39Whether it is the people who came after us,
23:41or the people who comment on us
23:43about the way we play cricket,
23:44our approach and our professionalism.
23:46We should talk about those things carefully.
23:48That's right.
23:48Whether you came from our side while playing.
23:51The other thing about the dressing room
23:53is about resting.
23:54I remembered the incident of Yunus Bhai's captaincy.
23:57We won the World Cup.
23:59We toured Sri Lanka.
24:00He was with New Zealand for three days.
24:02On the first day,
24:04the team was announced in the dressing room.
24:06They announced the team.
24:08Shoaib Malik was the regular member.
24:10He was asked to rest.
24:15He turned around and looked.
24:17He said, I am walking and you are asking me to rest.
24:23When you ask someone to rest,
24:26in all three days,
24:27Shoaib Malik was sitting outside.
24:29Misbah was sitting outside.
24:30Khalid Lateef was given the opening.
24:33That was the reason I didn't open.
24:35I didn't do it.
24:37Khalid was given the opening.
24:38That's why there was a problem in the middle order.
24:39Umar was resting.
24:41There were a lot of things like that.
24:43But it was a healthy dressing room.
24:46It was a joke.
24:48Everyone was worried that Malik was resting.
24:52There was no match yet.
24:53There were two or three matches.
24:55If there was a match, there was a logic.
24:57There was no logic.
24:59Was Malik the main player at that time?
25:00Yes.
25:01Misbah too?
25:01Misbah too.
25:02Which main players rest these days?
25:04They are ready to rest.
25:06Of course.
25:06Who does that?
25:07They don't get ready.
25:09Malik spoke in a lighter mood.
25:11He is not serious.
25:12But this…
25:14You can see what Kaveen has said.
25:17When did Babar, Shaheen and Rizwan rest?
25:19When did they rest?
25:21In a match…
25:21Whether it's the CT team or New Zealand…
25:23They rest when they go out for a match.
25:25These players used to come to Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.
25:28Where did they play?
25:29Where did we play?
25:31We too didn't like to play.
25:33We didn't show much interest.
25:35But we used to prepare a back-up.
25:38That's how the team worked till 2015.
25:42The players kept coming.
25:43We kept getting chances.
25:45The system was strong.
25:46The system was strong.
25:48That's the real reason.
25:49The team's performance was regular.
25:53It depends on a strong captain and a strong coach.
25:55Who they want to rest and who they want to feed.
25:58Shaheen, you wanted to ask a question.
26:01I have a question for the expert.
26:03Which cricket world's greatest man was born today?
26:09Today?
26:10Today.
26:12Only the masters of date of birth can tell.
26:16Only they can tell.
26:16You ate the cake.
26:18You don't want to tell.
26:20Najeeb Ul Hassan.
26:21No, brother.
26:23I'm sorry.
26:25What's the date today?
26:2723rd June.
26:28Which date is on 24th?
26:30We'll tell you tomorrow.
26:31It's off-screen.
26:32It's off-screen.
26:33Let's move on to the expert.
26:35He's here.
26:37Do we have time?
26:39Let's go.
26:40Abdul Rehman's question is,
26:41who is the best captain in the World Cup?
26:45And how do you make a good captain?
26:48Basit, I'll start with you.
26:50Tell me, who is the best captain in the World Cup?
26:54At this time?
26:56It's a tough question.
26:57It's tough.
26:58Because Rohit is there.
26:59Rashid did well today.
27:02Butler is doing well.
27:03There will be many names.
27:04But Mitchell is not doing well.
27:05Mitchell is not doing well.
27:07Do you think Butler is doing well?
27:09Butler is doing better.
27:10Because the combination he made with him…
27:12Moeen Ali.
27:14Both of them are very…
27:15The way Moeen Ali is telling the bowlers,
27:18I think all these captains have been doing this for a long time.
27:22For me, Rashid is the best captain.
27:24The team he took to the Super 8,
27:27he defeated big teams.
27:28His captaincy is very good.
27:29In my opinion, South African captain Makram.
27:32He won close matches.
27:34He controlled his nerves.
27:36Which is not a strong point of South Africa.
27:39That's right.
27:40The team is big.
27:41Who did bad captaining?
27:43The team is big and bad captaining?
27:45No, I didn't say that.
27:47I am asking the names.
27:48Babar Azam?
27:49Williamson.
27:50They are in the same line.
27:52Okay, the next question has a long answer.
27:56How to become a good captain?
27:57We will talk about that in tomorrow's program.
27:58That's all for today's transmission.
28:00I will take your leave now.
28:02Take care of yourself.
28:03Allah Hafiz.