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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar

Guests:
- Asad Qaiser PTI
- Ali Pervaiz Malik PMLN

Asad Qaiser's Strongly Responds to the Government's Accusation of Running an Anti-State Campaign

"Imran Khan Nay Mulk Ko Dilawaya Karanay Kay Liye...", Ali Pervaiz Malik

"Bani PTI Cases ki Buniyad par Nahi Inteqam ki Buniyad Par Jail Main Hai" Asad Qaiser

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Transcript
00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:11This is Huwa Nika Nisar.
00:13Viewers, on one hand, the government of Pakistan is moving towards the finalization of the budget.
00:18On the other hand, there is chaos in politics.
00:22Instead of getting the break of Eid, there is a possibility of big news after Eid.
00:26There are rumours about many arrests.
00:29Today, while doing an important press briefing,
00:32Barrister Aqeel, who is the translator of the government's laws,
00:37said that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf has been labelled as a state that opposes the government.
00:44Listen to what he said.
00:46A specific political party is on the agenda of state that opposes the government.
00:49A concentrated campaign is being run against Pakistan.
00:52Not only in Pakistan, but also outside of Pakistan.
00:55That particular political party, Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
00:58has crossed all limits.
01:01In America, their supporters have hired Congress through lobbyist firms and PR firms.
01:06That particular political party is trying to ruin relations with our friendly country.
01:12There is no forgiveness for this.
01:13A strict legal action will be taken against them,
01:16whether they are in Pakistan or outside of Pakistan.
01:19Political parties fight each other in politics.
01:23To accuse a political party of state that opposes the government,
01:28is not a small accusation.
01:30Mr. Ahsan Iqbal has said that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf is trying to derail the country.
01:35Listen to that too.
01:36Pakistan's businessmen say that this country has to progress.
01:41Keep Imran Khan in jail.
01:44If he comes out, then there will be protests, then there will be riots, and then there will be protests.
01:48If they try to derail the country,
01:50then we will also deal with them.
01:53We have Asad Qaisar with us at this time.
01:57He is the senior leader of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
01:59He is a former speaker of the National Assembly.
02:01Thank you very much, Mr. Asad Qaisar, for joining us.
02:03Mr. Qaisar, you have two statements in front of you.
02:06One is that the state is opposing and the other is trying to derail a country.
02:10Big accusations are being made against Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
02:13Mr. Qaisar, how will PTI react to this?
02:17First of all, I would like to congratulate you on tomorrow's Eid and Eid-ul-Furqan.
02:29Mr. Qaisar, I would also like to congratulate you on our prophecy.
02:32And I hope that this era of oppression and coercion will end,
02:41and there will be peace in the country.
02:45This gentleman is new to me.
02:48I don't know where he is from.
02:50I have also heard about you.
02:52So I understood that he is from a village.
02:55First of all, look at the condition of the Quran.
02:59Has this election won?
03:02A defeated person, who was born in 1947,
03:07who was rejected by the public,
03:10and he came and said such things to strengthen his position,
03:22so that he can get a position.
03:25I am very sorry about this.
03:27Look, we are fighting within the laws and regulations of this country.
03:32We have acted under the law.
03:37And the allegations that are being made against us,
03:40we think that there has been a judicial inquiry.
03:43If we have made a mistake, then it should be made public.
03:47We are talking about the 9th of May.
03:49We have constantly been asked to take a judicial inquiry.
03:53You can take it from wherever you want to take it.
03:57But with such things, you are the most oppressed party in Pakistan.
04:03And you can't mislead the public by making allegations against the most oppressed leader.
04:10One thing, and I think that he is a guest of the government for a few days.
04:16The people's party is still testing whether they will vote for this cruel budget.
04:25If the people's party, this cruel budget,
04:28which is a waste of taxes,
04:30which has cut the share of the business community,
04:35in fact, they have cut the share of the people.
04:39It is not possible that the current electricity prices are so high,
04:43the taxes they have imposed,
04:45that anyone can do business here,
04:47that anyone can do business here,
04:49or that a poor person can bear this burden.
04:53So I am very scared that this country is heading towards anarchy.
04:57And they are not being taken care of.
04:59The crisis they have gone through, the restructuring,
05:03the serious challenges to the economy,
05:06which is giving relief to the people at the moment,
05:08they are failing at that.
05:09So they are making allegations,
05:11and they are making irresponsible statements.
05:16Mr. Asad, I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
05:18You have mentioned the people's party.
05:20The people's party seems to be separating in such a situation.
05:24I don't know how long the government will last.
05:26First of all, tell me, how long do you think the government will last?
05:29Number one.
05:30Number two.
05:31If you are talking about not voting in the Pakistan people's party budget,
05:35that it is possible that they will not vote,
05:37then will Pakistan Tehreek-e-Ansar be ready to talk to the people's party?
05:40Will you talk to them?
05:42Will you have any kind of negotiations with them?
05:44Because there is a lot of confusion in the negotiations,
05:46with whom will the PTI negotiate and with whom not.
05:48First of all, we will see the people's party's strategy.
05:52We will see that they make a move to win,
05:55and then we will negotiate.
05:57I can't comment on this right now,
05:59but let's see what their budget is like.
06:03Because this budget, the parties that will vote for it,
06:06they will not be able to face the people.
06:09We will definitely speak against it in this world,
06:12and we will also remove the people.
06:14God willing, we will approach all the political parties
06:19that are in opposition.
06:22And we will tell them to come together
06:25and raise their voices against this oppression.
06:28Because this budget is made by the IMF.
06:35You should reduce your expenses.
06:38That is, revisit the agreement with your IPPs,
06:43because your IPPs are very expensive.
06:49In terms of capacity payment.
06:51Right.
06:52Mr. Asad, you have said that you will also remove the people.
06:57And to remove the people, you need leaders.
07:00How many leaders are there at this time of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf
07:04to take to the streets?
07:06Do you think that after Eid,
07:08such a situation can develop
07:10that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf can take to the streets?
07:12Tehrik-e-Insaf?
07:13Look, Tehrik-e-Insaf has no shortage of leadership.
07:17We have such a large group of young people,
07:20such an educated group,
07:22that there is no need for leadership.
07:24There are all leaders.
07:26And new leadership is emerging.
07:28So this is not a problem.
07:30This is the first time Tehrik-e-Insaf has given a new leadership to the people.
07:34And especially we have given a chance to our youth,
07:37our young people, an opportunity.
07:39So there will be no problem of leadership.
07:42But what I am seeing at the moment,
07:45the prostrations in the streets,
07:48because of poverty,
07:50because of unemployment,
07:52because of corruption,
07:54this will not be handled by the government.
07:56And those who are with the small provinces,
07:59they don't want to give their funds,
08:01their matters are non-interference.
08:04Instead, they should focus on their performance,
08:07they should improve their efficiency,
08:10they should give a chance to the people.
08:12Instead of that, they have started something else.
08:17Okay, you had expressed your support to the Punjab government,
08:22a couple of days ago.
08:24And at this time, there is a survey from AIPOR,
08:27that Mariam Nawaz Sahiba's popularity is increasing.
08:30And if you get another chance, it will increase even more.
08:32Do you remember, there used to be surveys about Imran Khan,
08:35where they used to say that 70% is his popularity,
08:38and the rest of the leaders are behind him.
08:40Imran Khan is the most popular.
08:42After this survey,
08:44do you think that there are any chances of the government
08:47becoming weak?
08:49Because if you run a movement,
08:51the government will obviously be against you.
08:53Are the chances of the government becoming weak or strong?
08:56Mr. Asad.
08:58What has Mariam done?
09:01The wheat scandal in Punjab,
09:04which has made the farmers cry,
09:07which has broken the backs of the farmers,
09:10and has affected the economy,
09:14this is a sponsored survey.
09:19And from this sponsored survey,
09:22if they feel that they are helpless,
09:27then they should hold a public meeting,
09:32and find out how many people are with him.
09:35And God willing, they will find out.
09:38I say, first of all,
09:40he has been the chief minister for a long time.
09:45He has no moral authority.
09:48When the people did not vote for you,
09:50when the people did not mandate you,
09:52when the people rejected you,
09:54yet you are sitting in power,
09:56and you are giving a strange impression,
09:58and by doing a sponsored survey,
10:00you are proving yourself to be a popular leader.
10:03This kind of attitude will not work.
10:06If there is a misunderstanding,
10:09that on the basis of this misunderstanding,
10:12they will deceive the people,
10:14this will not happen at all.
10:16The anger of the farmers has increased,
10:19which is unemployment,
10:21and especially in Punjab.
10:23I say, in Punjab,
10:25with Tariq-e-Ishaaq,
10:27the people have made a commitment,
10:30and as Tariq-e-Ishaaq has become popular in Punjab,
10:33I hope that in the future,
10:36even now,
10:38the Nawaz Sharif seats have been lost,
10:40all of them have been lost.
10:42From Lahore to Pindi,
10:44not a single PTI has won.
10:46It does not happen like this.
10:48Got your point.
10:49Your stance is consistent,
10:51that we win,
10:52our mandate has been stolen.
10:53They say that we win,
10:55but we do not win all the seats,
10:56that is why we have to go to the coalition.
10:58Now, in such a situation,
10:59the negotiations that are being discussed,
11:01especially what Mr. Achak Zahi will do,
11:03through Tehrik-e-Tahafuz-e-Ayn-e-Pakistan platform,
11:06he will advance those negotiations,
11:09but PTI will not be a part of those negotiations,
11:12then what will be the efficacy of the negotiations, Mr. Asad?
11:15Then, if the major Jamaat,
11:17from those negotiations,
11:18leaves this movement of the opposition,
11:20then what will be the benefit of the negotiations?
11:23Look, first of all,
11:25we want to make it clear,
11:27that Mr. Achak Zahi wanted me to take this kind of initiative,
11:32because he has his own party,
11:34we have our own government,
11:36so we, Mr. Khan has said,
11:38that I have no objection,
11:40if you can make some efforts.
11:42Our demand is simple,
11:43our number one demand is,
11:45that the mandate given by the people,
11:47that mandate should be respected,
11:49that mandate should be removed.
11:51Our number two demand is,
11:53that this country should be run,
11:55according to the rules and regulations of the country.
11:58Until the rules and regulations of the country are not followed,
12:01the country will not move forward.
12:03We are going to have a conversation with Maulana Fazl Rehman,
12:05after Eid,
12:06what are your expectations, Mr. Asad Kaisar,
12:08from this meeting,
12:09because there has been no breakthrough so far,
12:11and the government side has accelerated the negotiations?
12:16No, look, we have relations,
12:19because at that time,
12:21we did not have any alliance with him,
12:23nor did we have any commitment,
12:25depending on that, people will have relations with him,
12:27but the relations we have with him,
12:29are on one front,
12:31and that is,
12:33that in the country,
12:35rule of law,
12:37independent judiciary,
12:39empowerment of parliament,
12:41and civil supremacy,
12:43we are talking to him on this,
12:45so this is what is going on,
12:47so I hope he is convinced,
12:49and we are running the campaign,
12:51and we both have a one-point agenda,
12:53but Mr. Asad,
12:55he was already settled on this point,
12:57but his conversation with the government,
12:59is not the reason,
13:01that he is looking at other avenues,
13:03considering,
13:05that Maulana Fazl Rehman,
13:07historically,
13:09most of the government's history,
13:11it was very difficult for him,
13:13to come to the opposition,
13:15apart from the PTI era,
13:17see he has his own party,
13:19what can I say about him,
13:21that what should he do,
13:23what should he not do,
13:25he himself understands,
13:27he is a sensible man,
13:29but I hope,
13:31for the empowerment of law and order in the country,
13:33he will join us.
13:35Right,
13:37you talked about Imran Khan coming out,
13:39first it was April,
13:41then May, now June,
13:43till when do you expect,
13:45that Imran Khan will come out?
13:47See,
13:49regarding the law,
13:51there is no room for Imran Khan,
13:53to stay in jail.
13:55The degree is very weak,
13:57it is based on revenge,
13:59there is no solid footing,
14:01so I can say based on that,
14:03that it does not take more than a month,
14:05if new cases are filed,
14:07if revenge is taken,
14:09then it can be done,
14:11but whatever happens,
14:13I can tell you one thing,
14:15that Imran Khan cannot stay in jail for long.
14:17Very interesting,
14:19very interesting,
14:21Asad Qaisar sahib,
14:23thank you very much for joining me in the program,
14:25it was a pleasure having you,
14:27one thing is for sure,
14:29that after Eid,
14:31there will be a lot of fun in politics,
14:33Pakistan People's Party,
14:35because we are talking about the budget,
14:37because it is a budget session,
14:39because we are talking about the finalization of the budget,
14:41so we will have Ali Parvez Malik sahib with us,
14:43after a break.
14:49Welcome back after the break,
14:51we have Ali Parvez Malik sahib with us,
14:53he is the State Minister of Finance,
14:55the budget has come to Pakistan,
14:57now there is a debate in the Qaima Committee,
14:59and the Qaima Committee has given a lot of suggestions,
15:01according to the sources,
15:03that the heavy handedness you have done,
15:05on the salaried class,
15:07this is not right,
15:09this is not acceptable among the people,
15:11the report of AIPOR is in its place,
15:13that Mariam Nawaz sahiba,
15:15is increasing in popularity,
15:17but if we look at the federal government,
15:19and the Punjab government separately,
15:21then on the budget of the federal government,
15:23on the salaried class,
15:25the tax that has been imposed,
15:27it is being made a target of criticism,
15:29because at this time,
15:31the budget of Rs 240 billion,
15:33which is ending this year,
15:35is more than 30% of the budget,
15:37not just that,
15:39the finance minister of the finance ministry,
15:41Mohammad Aurangzeb sahib,
15:43has put the case of the salaried class,
15:45in front of the Prime Minister,
15:47and has taken it up,
15:49not just that,
15:51if we compare this,
15:53with the exporters,
15:55then Rs 240 billion,
15:57in electricity prices,
15:59has been reduced,
16:01and here,
16:03the load of Rs 75 billion,
16:05is being put on the salaried class,
16:07this we have been saying from the first day,
16:09that the rest of the budget,
16:11a lot of things are good,
16:13a lot of things are bad,
16:15a lot of things,
16:17the name of helplessness,
16:19is a situation of gratitude,
16:21but the salaried class matter,
16:23is in its place,
16:25so the discussion that has gone on,
16:27this work could have been done easily,
16:29if you had reduced your expenses,
16:31if you had reduced your ministries,
16:33or if you had reduced,
16:35the bureaucracy,
16:37that you had to satisfy,
16:39why are we talking about satisfying the bureaucracy,
16:41because this year,
16:43from 1st to 16th grade,
16:45the government employees,
16:47their pay has increased by 25%,
16:49and from 17th grade,
16:51it has increased by 20%,
16:53if we compare the last 10 years,
16:55in 2013-14,
16:57it increased by 10%,
16:59in 2015,
17:01it increased by 7.5%,
17:03in 2016-17, 2018-19,
17:05it increased by 10-10%,
17:07in the salaries of the government employees,
17:09in 2020,
17:11because of the financial situation,
17:13no increase was made,
17:15it was a tough year,
17:17there was a backlash,
17:19but no increase was made,
17:21in 2021-22,
17:23there was an allowance,
17:25and 10% increase in the basic salary,
17:27in 2022,
17:29which was 15% in total,
17:31then in 2023,
17:33you know that the government
17:35is of PDM,
17:37and 35% increase is made,
17:39and then next comes 2024,
17:41in a few months,
17:43with the coalition of PMLN,
17:45the government has received,
17:47and 25% increase is made,
17:49so 10-10-10, 15%, 7.5%,
17:51no increase is made,
17:53and suddenly 25% increase,
17:55this is also seen as a shock,
17:57that what has happened,
17:59what is the need for this,
18:01whereas most of the workforce,
18:03is in the private sector.
18:05Ali Parvez Malik,
18:07firstly, thank you for joining me in the program,
18:09before Eid,
18:11you have joined us on Chandrat,
18:13so happy Eid,
18:15but because we are talking about happy Eid,
18:17when will this happy news come,
18:19there is a discussion going on
18:21in the Kaima committee,
18:23that shall we or shall we not,
18:25put the burden on the salaried class,
18:27is there a possibility of a happy news coming,
18:29or not?
18:33First of all, thank you very much, Anika,
18:35always a pleasure to be in your show,
18:37you have presented me
18:39with a happy Eid,
18:41through your program,
18:43I also want to wish all the viewers,
18:45a happy Eid,
18:47you have given a lot of
18:49initiatives, so I will
18:51hope that you will patiently
18:53hear me out, because you have
18:55said a lot of things.
18:57Firstly,
18:59please keep the perspective in mind,
19:01this was the backdrop,
19:03when through vote of no confidence,
19:05Imran Khan's government
19:07was dislodged in a similar way,
19:09so they did explosive tunnels,
19:11in the shape of, you know,
19:13unfunded fuel subsidies,
19:15with which your relationship with
19:17the IMF became tense and
19:19daggers drawn, after that,
19:21do you remember, when they
19:23used their finance ministers to
19:25default Pakistan,
19:27then protest, and all this,
19:29knowingly or unknowingly,
19:31that in the next few years,
19:33in 3-4 years,
19:35you have a requirement of
19:37around 100 billion dollars,
19:39and you will have to run this
19:41system with IMF, so this is the
19:43perspective that you should have.
19:45Secondly, the economic
19:47realities that we have,
19:49that in the next 3 years,
19:51we need 70-80 billion dollars,
19:53the refinance or finance that we
19:55need, or in the next 4 years,
19:57we need 100 billion dollars,
19:59and IMF is that health doctor,
20:01without whose certificate,
20:03the capital markets are closed,
20:05so you have to work with them
20:07in the same framework,
20:09so the first thing for us,
20:11and Mr. Aurangzeb,
20:13and our Prime Minister,
20:15Mr. Shibaz Sharif,
20:17their biggest priority is
20:19to revive this relationship,
20:21because the trust that you
20:23see today, it will be so fragile
20:25that if we can't anchor it
20:27with the IMF, as it was
20:29a year ago,
20:31so to anchor it,
20:33to give permanence,
20:35first of all, we have to work
20:37in the IMF framework,
20:39only accepting money
20:41is not the expression
20:43of responsibility,
20:45every government has its own
20:47responsibility, loyalty is
20:49the part of the government
20:51in which you have to generate
20:53all these resources,
20:55despite having a low tax
20:57to GDP ratio, loyalty
20:59collects the most taxes,
21:01and if you compare
21:03India and us,
21:05the major difference in tax
21:07is that our provinces
21:09generate 1% of their income tax,
21:11and the states of India
21:13generate 6%,
21:156 plus 10, 11, 12,
21:17which is at the federal level,
21:19makes them go to
21:2118% of GDP of tax collection,
21:23and we are 10 plus 1,
21:2511, 10, 11,
21:27we are in the same bracket,
21:29so your financial envelope,
21:31and you can never give
21:33such facilities here,
21:35which is the responsibility
21:37of any state,
21:39because in our system,
21:41there is a perverse incentive,
21:43that the provincial governments
21:45mostly believe in spending,
21:47go and do development,
21:49and all the lending and
21:51all the earning pressure
21:53is on loyalty,
21:55so you need to understand this,
21:57you need to calibrate this.
21:59You are absolutely right,
22:01that there is a lot of pressure
22:03because our MNAs and
22:05MPAs have taken a contract
22:07which is of the Union Councils,
22:09which is of the provincial governments,
22:11which is not of the legislators,
22:13but then, about your government,
22:15obviously we know that you are a
22:17coalition government,
22:19at this time, the people's party
22:21had a burden on you,
22:23and obviously the news is around,
22:25that you have agreed to the
22:27demand for development funds,
22:29and when you have agreed,
22:31then we will have to reduce the
22:33work for development funds,
22:35and we will have to focus on tax collection
22:37instead of spending,
22:39when your government is working.
22:41I just told you,
22:43that we have to open up
22:45this communication
22:47between the provincial governments
22:49and the local government,
22:51that how we have to work
22:53within our spheres,
22:55and how we have to generate
22:57our resources,
22:59and we need money to develop,
23:01but until there is a financial envelope,
23:03you will just be in the world
23:05and fight among yourselves,
23:07that is the only point that I am making.
23:09Now, the request is that,
23:11what you said about the salaries
23:13and the budget,
23:15which you pointed towards
23:17aggressive taxation,
23:19see, with IMF, if you want to
23:21stay within the framework,
23:23they have given you a target,
23:25whether you like it or not,
23:27now you have to go to
23:2913,000 billion.
23:31If you look at the increment,
23:33there will be an additional
23:35taxation of 3,500 billion,
23:37and the burden on the salaried class
23:39is around 70 billion,
23:41which you know,
23:43so it is not a big number,
23:45although Prime Minister Shabaz Sharif
23:47had said that they should also be insulated,
23:49but maybe the IMF,
23:51which I did not trust you,
23:53and the institutional distrust
23:55has come,
23:57because of that,
23:59they are not ready to accept
24:01that we will widen our base,
24:03so they tell us,
24:05how much revenue will you
24:07take from the policy decisions,
24:09so because of that,
24:11we have to put it on the
24:1370 billion salary,
24:15in which the rates have been tweaked,
24:17but maybe the change of brackets
24:19has had an adverse impact on people,
24:21and even today,
24:23we are thinking
24:25that through which revenue measures
24:27can we reduce this load
24:29for the salaried class,
24:31because some people's brackets
24:33have increased the load.
24:35Will it decrease after Eid,
24:37will the burden of 75 billion
24:39decrease after Eid?
24:41Look,
24:43I am requesting you,
24:45till the day of voting,
24:47in your budget,
24:49with our allies,
24:51we will try to look after
24:53the anomalies,
24:55but Anika,
24:57I am stressing to you again and again,
24:59that we cannot jeopardize
25:01the IMF framework in any way,
25:03within that,
25:05if we can park this load
25:07somewhere else,
25:09then we have to achieve
25:11the target of 13,000 billion.
25:13But Ali Parvez,
25:15we have IMF shackles,
25:17and this budget is more of an IMF budget
25:19IMF had told you
25:21that if you want to show a surplus budget,
25:23then you can show it in two ways,
25:25either by increasing the tax,
25:27or by reducing the expenses.
25:29And we know that the expenses are good,
25:31in such a situation,
25:33you increase the salaries of the government employees
25:35by 25%,
25:37and you say that we are trying to
25:39control the situation,
25:41and put tax on the rest of the people,
25:43and there 10% has increased,
25:45on average,
25:47and on the other hand,
25:49KPK is increasing by 10%,
25:51and you are saying that we are very poor,
25:53and we have to increase by 25%,
25:55so it doesn't match, Ali Parvez Malik.
25:59Look, there is no doubt
26:01that fiscal consolidation means
26:03that you increase your income,
26:05on which we are taking aggressive measures,
26:07and God willing,
26:09if there is an unfair load somewhere,
26:11then we will try to correct it,
26:13because that is Mr. Shahbaz Sharif's priority.
26:15On the other hand,
26:17to reduce the expenses,
26:19you know that PAK PWD,
26:21which did not spend only 3-4 billion rupees,
26:23through which 100-200 billion rupees
26:25were invested in development,
26:27and half of it was stolen,
26:29has been shut down.
26:31A high-powered ministerial committee,
26:33to reduce the size of the government,
26:35has been established,
26:37and in one month,
26:39you will see how divisions will be curtailed,
26:41expenses will be reduced,
26:43the minister is working with a clear cabinet,
26:45and you can count on the count,
26:47I think you can count on the minister.
26:49Apart from this,
26:51you can see that there is
26:53no waste of money
26:55anywhere,
26:57it is being stopped.
26:59Apart from this,
27:01when it comes to salaries,
27:03I would like to request,
27:05this was also a big requirement,
27:07that you should tax the pension.
27:09Mr. Shahbaz Sharif shut it down,
27:11because the people closest to him,
27:13who spend their livelihood on a fixed amount,
27:15and in the last two years,
27:17Mr. Imran Khan's hatred for politics,
27:19due to which there was turmoil,
27:21there was inflation,
27:23there was a commodity cycle,
27:25the highest-paid class among them
27:27has been suppressed.
27:29So you protected the pensions,
27:31and your government employees are low-grade,
27:33their purchasing power has also suffered
27:35at the end of the day.
27:37So if by budgeting,
27:39you have worked for the primary surplus,
27:41you have also worked for the revenue,
27:43you have also reduced your expenses,
27:45you have also improved the rest of the matters,
27:47so if you can give them some relief,
27:49then Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
27:51this will not come in my pocket, right?
27:53You are talking about purchasing power,
27:55Mr. Ali Parvez?
27:57One thing,
27:59for the private sector,
28:01the minimum wage is also 15%,
28:03he has indicated from 32,000 to 37,000,
28:05and when your minimum wage changes,
28:07we will appreciate
28:09that the minimum wage
28:11is a tax-deductible expense.
28:13So the private sector,
28:15seeing the inflation,
28:17and seeing that Mr. Shahbaz Sharif
28:19has given a historic package
28:21of Rs. 240 billion in electricity
28:23to increase their profitability,
28:25and let me tell you,
28:27this is not a relief.
28:29You are absolutely wrong in your statement.
28:31This was the additional burden
28:33that your industrial sector was carrying
28:35and because of this,
28:37they themselves became uncompetitive
28:39and factories were being shut down.
28:41So Mr. Shahbaz Sharif only offloaded
28:43the additional load of someone else.
28:45Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
28:47should we hold our ears from this side
28:49or from that side?
28:51But should we hold our ears from this side
28:53or from that side?
28:55We are getting relief at this time,
28:57whether it is to make the business
28:59competitive,
29:01and my request is that
29:03by increasing the purchasing power,
29:05you are generally curtailing the business.
29:07This is the first rule of the economy.
29:09But you have talked about purchasing power.
29:11The biggest problem with purchasing power
29:13is that because of indirect taxation,
29:15purchasing power is reduced.
29:17We don't pay much attention to direct taxation.
29:19We pay attention to indirect taxation.
29:21And this is not just your government.
29:23This has been in the past as well.
29:25Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman,
29:27the rich man of Jamaat-e-Islami,
29:29has said something,
29:31Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
29:33how can we fulfill our basic needs?
29:35The biggest attack has been made
29:37on middle class people.
29:39Where is the tax on the rich people?
29:41The rich people have paid
29:43360 billion rupees.
29:45The rich people have collected
29:474 billion rupees.
29:49In the world, it is said that
29:51by imposing 18% tax,
29:53inflation will decrease.
29:55When you impose tax on wheat,
29:57will inflation decrease or increase?
29:59Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
30:01Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
30:03has talked about the rich man.
30:05If you add the bigwigs of agriculture,
30:07the exporters,
30:09who have to pay tax of
30:11100 billion rupees by the end of June,
30:13they are collecting this much.
30:15And you know that the tax payers
30:17are paying 360 billion rupees
30:19for this fiscal year.
30:21So, the rich man,
30:23the property, the agriculture,
30:25coming to direct taxation is a policy shift.
30:27We have seen this as such.
30:29We have seen more of
30:31knee jerk reactions
30:33or fire fighting budget.
30:35But there could have been
30:37other ways as well.
30:39Couldn't there have been?
30:57Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
30:59Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
31:01has talked about the rich man.
31:03When you impose tax on wheat,
31:05inflation will decrease or increase?
31:07Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
31:09Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
31:11has talked about the rich man.
31:13When you impose tax on wheat,
31:15inflation will decrease or increase?
31:17Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
31:19Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
31:21has talked about the rich man.
31:23When you impose tax on wheat,
31:25inflation will decrease or increase?
31:27Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
31:29Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
31:31has talked about the rich man.
31:33When you impose tax on wheat,
31:35inflation will decrease or increase?
31:37Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
31:39Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
31:41has talked about the rich man.
31:43When you impose tax on wheat,
31:45inflation will decrease or increase?
31:47Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
31:49Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
31:51has talked about the rich man.
31:53When you impose tax on wheat,
31:55inflation will decrease or increase?
31:57Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
31:59Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
32:01has talked about the rich man.
32:03When you impose tax on wheat,
32:05inflation will decrease or increase?
32:07Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
32:09Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
32:11has talked about the rich man.
32:13When you impose tax on wheat,
32:15inflation will decrease or increase?
32:17Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
32:19Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
32:21has talked about the rich man.
32:23When you impose tax on wheat,
32:25inflation will decrease or increase?
32:27Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
32:29Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
32:31has talked about the rich man.
32:33When you impose tax on wheat,
32:35inflation will decrease or increase?
32:37Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
32:39Mr. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman
32:41has talked about the rich man.
32:43When you impose tax on wheat,
32:45inflation will decrease or increase?
32:47Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
32:49when you impose tax on wheat,
32:51inflation will decrease or increase?
32:53Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
32:55when you impose tax on wheat,
32:57inflation will decrease or increase?
32:59Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:01when you impose tax on wheat,
33:03inflation will decrease or increase?
33:05Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:07when you impose tax on wheat,
33:09inflation will decrease or increase?
33:11Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:13when you impose tax on wheat,
33:15inflation will decrease or increase?
33:17Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:19when you impose tax on wheat,
33:21inflation will decrease or increase?
33:23Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:25when you impose tax on wheat,
33:27inflation will decrease or increase?
33:29Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:31when you impose tax on wheat,
33:33inflation will decrease or increase?
33:35Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:37when you impose tax on wheat,
33:39inflation will decrease or increase?
33:41Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:43when you impose tax on wheat,
33:45inflation will decrease or increase?
33:47Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:49when you impose tax on wheat,
33:51inflation will decrease or increase?
33:53Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
33:55when you impose tax on wheat,
33:57inflation will decrease or increase?
33:59Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:01when you impose tax on wheat,
34:03inflation will decrease or increase?
34:05Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:07when you impose tax on wheat,
34:09inflation will decrease or increase?
34:11Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:13when you impose tax on wheat,
34:15inflation will decrease or increase?
34:17Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:19when you impose tax on wheat,
34:21inflation will decrease or increase?
34:23Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:25when you impose tax on wheat,
34:27inflation will decrease or increase?
34:29Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:31when you impose tax on wheat,
34:33inflation will decrease or increase?
34:35Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:37when you impose tax on wheat,
34:39inflation will decrease or increase?
34:41Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:43when you impose tax on wheat,
34:45inflation will decrease or increase?
34:47Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:49when you impose tax on wheat,
34:51inflation will decrease or increase?
34:53Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
34:55when you impose tax on wheat,
34:57inflation will decrease or increase?
34:59Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
35:01when you impose tax on wheat,
35:03inflation will decrease or increase?
35:05Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
35:07when you impose tax on wheat,
35:09inflation will decrease or increase?
35:39Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
35:41when you impose tax on wheat,
35:43inflation will decrease or increase?
35:45Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
35:47when you impose tax on wheat,
35:49inflation will decrease or increase?
35:51Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
35:53when you impose tax on wheat,
35:55inflation will decrease or increase?
35:57Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
35:59when you impose tax on wheat,
36:01inflation will decrease or increase?
36:03Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:05when you impose tax on wheat,
36:07inflation will decrease or increase?
36:09Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:11when you impose tax on wheat,
36:13inflation will decrease or increase?
36:15Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:17when you impose tax on wheat,
36:19inflation will decrease or increase?
36:21Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:23when you impose tax on wheat,
36:25inflation will decrease or increase?
36:27Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:29when you impose tax on wheat,
36:31inflation will decrease or increase?
36:33Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:35when you impose tax on wheat,
36:37inflation will decrease or increase?
36:39Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:41when you impose tax on wheat,
36:43inflation will decrease or increase?
36:45Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:47when you impose tax on wheat,
36:49inflation will decrease or increase?
36:51Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:53when you impose tax on wheat,
36:55inflation will decrease or increase?
36:57Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
36:59when you impose tax on wheat,
37:01inflation will decrease or increase?
37:03Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:05when you impose tax on wheat,
37:07inflation will decrease or increase?
37:09Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:11when you impose tax on wheat,
37:13inflation will decrease or increase?
37:15Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:17when you impose tax on wheat,
37:19inflation will decrease or increase?
37:21Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:23when you impose tax on wheat,
37:25inflation will decrease or increase?
37:27Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:29when you impose tax on wheat,
37:31inflation will decrease or increase?
37:33Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:35when you impose tax on wheat,
37:37inflation will decrease or increase?
37:39Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:41when you impose tax on wheat,
37:43inflation will decrease or increase?
37:45Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:47when you impose tax on wheat,
37:49inflation will decrease or increase?
37:51Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:53when you impose tax on wheat,
37:55inflation will decrease or increase?
37:57Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
37:59when you impose tax on wheat,
38:01inflation will decrease or increase?
38:03Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:05when you impose tax on wheat,
38:07inflation will decrease or increase?
38:09Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:11when you impose tax on wheat,
38:13inflation will decrease or increase?
38:15Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:17when you impose tax on wheat,
38:19inflation will decrease or increase?
38:21Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:23when you impose tax on wheat,
38:25inflation will decrease or increase?
38:27Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:29when you impose tax on wheat,
38:31inflation will decrease or increase?
38:33Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:35when you impose tax on wheat,
38:37inflation will decrease or increase?
38:39Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:41when you impose tax on wheat,
38:43inflation will decrease or increase?
38:45Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:47when you impose tax on wheat,
38:49inflation will decrease or increase?
38:51Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:53when you impose tax on wheat,
38:55inflation will decrease or increase?
38:57Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
38:59when you impose tax on wheat,
39:01inflation will decrease or increase?
39:03Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
39:05when you impose tax on wheat,
39:07inflation will decrease or increase?
39:09Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
39:11when you impose tax on wheat,
39:13inflation will decrease or increase?
39:15Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
39:17when you impose tax on wheat,
39:19inflation will decrease or increase?
39:21Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
39:23when you impose tax on wheat,
39:25inflation will decrease or increase?
39:53Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
39:55when you impose tax on wheat,
39:57inflation will decrease or increase?
39:59Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
40:01when you impose tax on wheat,
40:03inflation will decrease or increase?
40:05Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
40:07when you impose tax on wheat,
40:09inflation will decrease or increase?
40:11Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
40:13when you impose tax on wheat,
40:15inflation will decrease or increase?
40:17Mr. Ali Parvez Malik,
40:19when you impose tax on wheat,
40:21inflation will decrease or increase?

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