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00:00In this special program, we are at the biggest livestock market in Lahore.
00:19How much did you ask for?
00:20Rs. 300 per animal.
00:21What did he say?
00:22He said, call whoever you want.
00:23I said, DCS sir is outside.
00:24He said, call whoever you want.
00:25He said, give me Rs. 1000 per animal.
00:27Okay.
00:28If you take it on foot, it's Rs. 400 per animal.
00:31In whose money will you take Rs. 400,000?
00:33Jagat's.
00:34Is this legal?
00:35Yes, it's legal.
00:36We just got the report.
00:37Sir, we just got the report from Karachi.
00:45How much did you ask for?
00:47We asked for Rs. 3500 per animal.
00:49That's amazing.
00:50You can take it, sir.
00:52Did you take it?
00:53Yes, it's being sold.
00:55It's sold.
00:58It's very expensive.
01:00How many do you want to take?
01:01One or two?
01:02Two.
01:03We'll take one for you.
01:04Really?
01:08In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
01:09Assalam-o-Alaikum.
01:10In this special program, we are at the biggest livestock market in Lahore.
01:19What facilities are being provided to the people who come here?
01:22And what kind of difficulties are they facing?
01:25Jagatech is being collected in the name of illegal fees.
01:29In this regard, let's talk to the businessmen who bring livestock here.
01:33And let's tell them what the situation was a few days before Eid-ul-Adha
01:37in the biggest livestock market in Lahore.
01:41To what extent have the arrangements been successful?
01:45Or is there any mismanagement here?
01:48Come, let's see.
01:58The way we have recorded our intro,
02:00money is being collected from the cars here.
02:04But the board here clearly states that no fees will be collected on the return from the cars.
02:14Now let's see if they are collecting the fees in front of the cameras or not.
02:17We have recorded this scene in front of the cameras.
02:20The money is being collected from here.
02:22Let's see what kind of money this is.
02:25Assalam-o-Alaikum.
02:26How are you?
02:29Assalam-o-Alaikum.
02:30Are you here?
02:31Yes.
02:32How are you?
02:33Are you going?
02:34Have you brought a car?
02:35No, this is a rickshaw.
02:36Did they take anything from you?
02:38They were requesting, but they came here.
02:40How much were they asking for?
02:41They said, give me the receipt.
02:42I said, no, this is not mine.
02:44They said, go there and talk.
02:46Okay.
02:47What kind of money are you taking?
02:49What kind of money are you taking?
02:50I am taking from the in-charge.
02:51Where is the in-charge?
02:52Call him.
02:53Where is he?
02:54He will come.
02:55Call him.
02:56I have spoken to him.
02:57He is saying, call whoever you want.
02:59He is saying, call whoever you want.
03:00Okay.
03:01We have to take the money.
03:02And there is no fee in principle.
03:04I said, this is written by the government.
03:05What kind of fee?
03:06There is no fee on the return.
03:07Who said that?
03:08It is written on the board that there is no fee on the return.
03:10Bring him there.
03:11Who is Nawab's son?
03:12Call him there.
03:13Sir, they are talking from upstairs.
03:15They are talking from upstairs.
03:16They are saying that if you have taken the money, then you will have to pay the fees.
03:20How much did you ask for?
03:22300 rupees for one animal.
03:24How much did you ask for?
03:25300 rupees for one animal.
03:26What did he say if you did not take?
03:27He said, call whoever you want.
03:28I said, DCO sir has come out.
03:29He said, call whoever you want.
03:30DCO sir also does not matter.
03:32How much did you take?
03:34I took 15,000 rupees.
03:35No, this is your 1500 rupees.
03:37Yes, yes, this is 2500.
03:38I just have to park the car there.
03:40Okay, but you took money on the way back.
03:42Yes, on the way back.
03:44Mr. Gondal is standing here.
03:46Come, come.
03:47Who is Mr. Gondal?
03:48He is standing here.
03:50What is your name?
03:51Mr. Gondal.
03:52Mr. Gondal, when it is written on the board that the money will not be returned, then
03:56what is the meaning of this fee?
03:57This is the return fee.
03:59Come, come.
04:00Okay.
04:01One minute, no one should hear.
04:02No one should hear.
04:03I am talking to you.
04:04Okay, listen.
04:05This is the return fee.
04:06Okay.
04:07It is written on the board that the money will not be returned.
04:11Okay.
04:12It is written on the board that the money will not be returned.
04:13You cannot park the car anywhere.
04:15Okay.
04:16That is the return fee.
04:17What is meant by return?
04:19The place where he places the money.
04:20Where he buys the money.
04:21The places are empty, right?
04:22Yes.
04:23The place where the money is used is the return fee.
04:24You are already taking money from the place, right?
04:25No, the money is not already taken from the place.
04:26That is a different game.
04:27I will just check that too.
04:28No, that is not a different game.
04:29That is the entry fee.
04:30After the return, the entry fee, which is the daily fee.
04:31Son, I want to ask you too.
04:32What did you say you took?
04:33I took 6000.
04:34What are you saying?
04:351500 rupees.
04:36What did you ask for?
04:38What did you ask for?
04:40Rs.1500 for the animals
04:42Rs.600
04:44Mr. Gondal, this is a matter of war
04:46It's written on the board that
04:48no fees will be charged on return
04:50I don't have any fees on return
04:52This is a return
04:54I don't have any fees on return
05:00You don't have to collect it from them
05:02You don't have to collect it from the car dealers
05:04You don't have to collect it from the car dealers
05:08I am talking to you
05:10They have nothing to do with it
05:12I am talking to you
05:14The board is written
05:16The rickshaw, the loader and the pick up
05:18The animals will be loaded
05:20The pick up will be Rs.700
05:22The return will be Rs.2500
05:24This is Rs.2500
05:26This is an animal
05:28There are 5 animals
05:30You won't collect it from the driver
05:32You are a sensible man
05:34I have heard you
05:36You won't collect the fees from the loader
05:38You won't collect the fees from the loader
05:40What is the driver's fault?
05:42He is not charging the driver
05:44He is charging the driver
05:46You are a businessman
05:48How much is it?
05:50Rs.2500
05:52How much is the car?
05:54Rs.2500
05:56Apart from this
05:58Rs.100
06:00Who is the driver?
06:02You are the driver
06:04He is misbehaving with me
06:08Where are you taking the animals?
06:10We have come from Kasur
06:12We are taking the animals to Kasur
06:14He is misbehaving with us
06:16Do you collect the fees from the loader?
06:18Yes
06:20Who will pick up the car?
06:22The loader will collect the fees
06:24He will collect the fees
06:26Let's do one thing
06:28Are you saying that
06:30the money you are collecting is legal?
06:32Yes
06:34Let's go to the DC
06:36You are right
06:38I have a point
06:40You can't collect the money while leaving
06:42This is a point
06:44Let's leave the camera
06:46Let's leave the camera
06:48Let's leave the camera
06:50Let's leave the camera
06:52Let's leave the camera
06:54All of them are misbehaving with you
06:56All of them
06:58All of them
07:00All of them are complaining
07:02We have videos of them fighting
07:04Come here
07:06Let's leave the camera
07:08Let's leave the camera
07:10Let's leave the camera
07:12I am saying that
07:14we have videos of them misbehaving
07:16This should not be a confusion
07:18When there is a board
07:20For the sake of money
07:22You should be collecting the money
07:24You should not be doing this
07:26You should make your own system
07:28You should not do this
07:30You are saying
07:32The money is collected
07:34by the people
07:36by the people
07:38This is not money
07:40Come here
07:42This is the money
07:44It is not money
07:46It is not money
07:48Tell me, on what basis is this land being allocated?
07:51Is it on the basis of money, or was it given to you earlier?
07:53We came here and sat down. We don't know if it's in the list or not.
07:56Today, the court has come and asked us to come here and sit down.
07:58We came to the office and asked them to give us the list and the money.
08:01Mr. Gondal, for my knowledge, tell me, on what basis is this land being given to the businessmen?
08:07Is it given to you earlier, or is it given to you now?
08:09No, no. It's the way people see it.
08:11It's the work of the cattle management.
08:13It's the way they see it.
08:16The cattle are being sold in the market.
08:18They are being sold in the market.
08:20The businessmen are coming in.
08:22They are giving more than what they were given.
08:25But the businessmen are sitting. They don't have any fees.
08:27They don't have any fees.
08:28You are saying that the fees for sitting, or the fees for trading, you are assuming here.
08:32That's the thing.
08:33And if money is being taken inside as well.
08:35No, there's nothing inside.
08:37I'm saying, if it's being taken.
08:39If it's being taken.
08:41If it's being taken, then is this illegal or is that illegal?
08:43This is legal.
08:45If it's being taken, then is it illegal?
08:47No, it's not.
08:49I'm saying, if it's being taken, then is it illegal?
08:51Yes, it's illegal.
08:53Thank you.
08:55So, you will take Rs. 4 lakhs?
08:57Yes, we will.
08:59Who are you? Are you the landlord here?
09:01Is there any place here to take money?
09:03No, there's no place.
09:05We will file an FIR.
09:07When will you do it?
09:09We will do it right now.
09:11We will take the money.
09:13We will take Rs. 4 lakhs.
09:15So, you are standing here until you get the money.
09:21How much are you giving now?
09:23Rs. 10 lakhs.
09:25This goat is worth Rs. 10 lakhs.
09:27Because they think that it has this written on it.
09:29Oh, it has this written on it.
09:31And you have printed it here.
09:43Assalam-o-Alaikum.
09:45How are you?
09:47What is your name?
09:49Ahmed.
09:51What do you do here?
09:53I work here.
09:55So, how do you give this place to the businessmen?
09:57Which place?
09:59The government has allowed it.
10:01So, for what are you asking for the money?
10:03Rs. 4 lakhs.
10:05They have given a statement of Rs. 5,000.
10:07The rest is Rs. 3,95,000.
10:09What is your name?
10:11My name is Ahmed.
10:13So, you are asking for Rs. 4 lakhs.
10:15In what capacity?
10:17We give electricity and water to the animals.
10:21So, you will take Rs. 4 lakhs?
10:23Yes.
10:25In what capacity?
10:27It is legal.
10:29How is it legal?
10:31We have a contract with the government.
10:33So, we give it to them.
10:35In which place?
10:37In the market.
10:39The government has a separate contract.
10:41So, we give it to them.
10:43Who are you?
10:45Are you a landlord?
10:47No, I am a contractor.
10:49What is your name?
10:51I don't have a name.
10:53What is your name?
10:55Kashan Qureshi.
10:57So, you are selling this place for Rs. 4 lakhs?
10:59No, we are not selling it.
11:01You are giving this place for Rs. 4 lakhs.
11:03What else do you have to say?
11:05We are not selling it.
11:07So, you are giving this place for Rs. 4 lakhs?
11:09Yes.
11:15How many people have you given this place to?
11:1710-15 people.
11:19So, it is Rs. 4 lakhs?
11:21No, it is Rs. 4 lakhs.
11:25So, you are saying that you have asked for Rs. 4 lakhs.
11:27Yes.
11:29And you are saying that it is legal.
11:31Yes.
11:33Let's verify it.
11:35Assalam-o-Alaikum.
11:37Who is he?
11:39He is our guest.
11:41Sir, you are not here for the guests.
11:43You are here to listen to their complaints.
11:45No, sir.
11:47Brother, tell me.
11:49You are giving this place for Rs. 4 lakhs.
11:51Which place?
11:53He is inside.
11:55Is this a joke?
11:57He is not giving any place.
11:59Where is he?
12:01Assalam-o-Alaikum.
12:03How are you, sir?
12:05He is our guest.
12:07He said that he will give Rs. 4 lakhs.
12:09Now, ask him.
12:11What will you charge him?
12:13He gave me a sale point.
12:15What is the name of that place?
12:17Bakar Point.
12:19You are not giving it to him.
12:21Why?
12:23I gave it to him.
12:25He gave me a sale point.
12:29Sir, it is not that easy.
12:31It is not that easy.
12:33Let me check.
12:35Who is he?
12:37Is it a joke to take money from him?
12:39No.
12:41It is a legal document.
12:43He is selling it for Rs. 4 lakhs.
12:45It is a business.
12:47We just got the report.
12:49We came here because we got the report from Karachi.
12:51You did not get the report from here.
12:53Now, ask him.
12:55Who gave you this?
12:57He gave it to me.
12:59He gave it to me.
13:01Did he give it to you personally?
13:03No, he did not give it to me personally.
13:05He said that he will give me a sale point.
13:07Are you arresting him?
13:09We cannot take money from him.
13:11We cannot take money from him.
13:13Did you give it to someone else?
13:15He said that he gave it to 15 people.
13:17He gave me some money.
13:19Okay.
13:21Sir, let me check.
13:23You cannot take money from him.
13:25I did not know about it.
13:27I came here.
13:29You came here from the legal side.
13:31He has assigned you a duty.
13:33I had a sale point here.
13:35I came here to check the sale point.
13:37Did you get any information
13:39that you have to take money from him?
13:41Did anyone guide you?
13:43Did anyone tell you how much money is here?
13:45Did anyone tell you that you have to take money from him?
13:47I gave him a sale point.
13:49Did anyone tell you that?
13:51Did you dream that you have to take money from him?
13:53How can I take money from him?
13:55How can I take money from him?
13:57How is this happening?
13:59I am not taking money from him.
14:01I will report to the police.
14:03I will report to the police.
14:05I will file an FIR.
14:07When will you file an FIR?
14:09Right now.
14:11Call him.
14:13It is not Ahmed's fault.
14:15But the person who is doing this
14:17should know how much money he is taking.
14:19When he will sell his animals
14:21for 4 lakh rupees,
14:23imagine the rate at which he will sell them.
14:25Exactly.
14:27What is the charge at this time?
14:29Are you heading the complaint cell?
14:31No, I am working as a manager.
14:33He is working as a manager.
14:35He is heading the complaint cell.
14:37May God bless him.
14:39This is Ahmed.
14:41We have nothing to do with him personally.
14:43But he has been told
14:45that he has asked for 4 lakh rupees on behalf of the contractor.
14:47And there are 10 to 15 points
14:49that have been sold at different prices.
14:51So, if this contractor
14:53will buy this land for lakhs of rupees
14:55and thousands of rupees,
14:57imagine the rate at which he will sell the animals.
14:59And this is the reason
15:01why so many people leave this place.
15:03So, we hope to get Mr. Kaisar to take action.
15:05We are standing right here.
15:07Meanwhile, the action will take place.
15:09You can watch the recordings.
15:11I am asking for 6 lakh rupees.
15:13I will give you whatever you ask for.
15:15But you have to tell me.
15:17I will give you 7 lakh rupees.
15:197 lakh rupees.
15:21How many animals do I have?
15:23You have 30 goats.
15:2528 animals.
15:27I will tell you the final price.
15:294 lakh rupees.
15:314 lakh rupees.
15:334 lakh rupees.
15:354 lakh rupees.
15:37How much will it be in total?
15:39It will be around 30 lakh rupees.
15:45Do you know him, sir?
15:47Hello.
15:49Sir, what kind of complaints
15:51are you getting?
15:53Sir, till now,
15:55Alhamdulillah.
15:57Is this the first complaint?
15:59No, no, sir.
16:01We have to sell the land.
16:03Let me explain one more thing.
16:05When we were standing outside,
16:07at the exit point,
16:09they are collecting money on a paper.
16:11What is that?
16:13That is the government's schedule fee.
16:15It is a part of our schedule.
16:17It is a part of our contract.
16:19It is taken per animal.
16:21It is taken at the exit point.
16:23Yes, it is taken at the exit point.
16:25One is the one on which 25 lakh rupees
16:27is printed, for example.
16:29That is the Prali fee.
16:31And per animal, 100 rupees.
16:33100 rupees for a small animal
16:35which has a goat and sheep.
16:37There is confusion here.
16:39It is written on the board
16:41that there is no return fee.
16:43It is not happening there.
16:45The Prali and Tandvi points are here.
16:47It is inside the point.
16:49They just recheck there.
16:51If there is a miss, they charge it again.
16:53It is inside the board.
16:55Okay.
16:57But apart from this,
16:59no man is allowed to take money?
17:01No, no.
17:03This complaint has also been made
17:05that the stalls are charged.
17:07That is part of the schedule.
17:09It is a part of the contract.
17:11It is a part of the contract.
17:13They are not allowed to charge.
17:15There is no fixed rate.
17:17Okay.
17:19Is this operation cell
17:21working under the DC office?
17:23Sir, we are the Punjab Cattle Market
17:25Management Company, PCMMDC.
17:27We are a section 42 company.
17:29The local government is our administrative department.
17:31And the overall management
17:33is with the PCMMDC.
17:35And the contract is with you?
17:37Yes, sir.
17:39And the role of the DC office
17:41is under the management?
17:43Sir, the management is ours.
17:45They can tell us.
17:47The management is with us.
17:49And who is looking after the security?
17:51It is us.
17:53No, no.
17:55Our staff looks after it.
17:57And we take help from the local police station.
17:59How many animals are there here?
18:01The big animals
18:03are around 10,000 to 15,000.
18:05And the small animals
18:07are around 30,000 to 35,000.
18:09And what is the daily footfall?
18:11What is the number?
18:13Sir, the footfall of the buyers
18:15is in thousands.
18:17We don't have a record of it.
18:19But it is in thousands.
18:21There are around 1,500 vehicles
18:23parked here.
18:25And do you have the numbers
18:27of the contract?
18:29Yes, yes.
18:31Our annual contract
18:33is 1 billion
18:3510 crore rupees.
18:37And it is only
18:39a contract?
18:41Yes, it is a collection of all.
18:43There are 9 types of fees.
18:45Contract,
18:47parking,
18:49photo points,
18:51total 9 things.
18:53And you don't get any complaints?
18:55No, no.
18:57This is a plus point.
18:59Sir, do you think
19:01it is legal?
19:03He is being nice.
19:05It might be possible
19:07that this is a personal fail.
19:09No, no.
19:11But if it is legal,
19:13then it shouldn't happen.
19:15Thank you very much.
19:17He stole it with his own hands.
19:19He is the one who stole it.
19:21He is the one who stole it.
19:23He is the one who stole it.
19:25Oh, oh, oh.
19:27You are standing here
19:29until the deal is done.
19:31It is done.
19:33It is done.
19:35How much are you paying?
19:3710 lakhs.
19:39This goat is worth 10 lakhs.
19:41Because he thinks that
19:43this is written on it.
19:45And you have printed it here.
19:57Do you have animals here?
19:59No, I drive a pickup truck.
20:01How many times have you come out?
20:03I have come out many times.
20:05But I have never taken a pickup.
20:07How much do you charge for a small animal?
20:09100 rupees for a small animal
20:11and 1000 rupees for a big animal.
20:13You charge 1000 rupees for a big animal
20:15and 1000 rupees for a pickup truck.
20:17Do you charge the same fee for a goat?
20:19Yes, the fee for a goat is 700 rupees.
20:21And the rest is 300 rupees?
20:23Yes, the rest is 300 rupees.
20:25What are the overall arrangements in the market?
20:27The market is very good.
20:29But it is very expensive here.
20:31If you ask the shopkeepers...
20:33Of course, you have to pay for the animals.
20:35Yes, of course.
20:37They buy water from a small tap
20:39for 1000 rupees
20:41and 1000 rupees for a small tap.
20:43So, all the money
20:45goes to the buyers and customers.
20:47Yes, they should get some facilities
20:49because our shopkeepers come from outside.
20:51So, it is obvious that
20:53if they get a facility here...
20:55What about the parking fees?
20:57The parking fees...
20:59We charge 150 rupees for a loader
21:01when we enter the market.
21:03The private plotting
21:05on the side
21:07charges 300 rupees separately.
21:09And here,
21:11they don't even let us stand.
21:13They come with a loader
21:15and a lifter.
21:17The person gets humiliated
21:19till the end.
21:21We go till the end.
21:23They humiliate us
21:25till the end.
21:27It is very difficult
21:29to earn a living.
21:31What do you do here?
21:33I am a rickshaw driver.
21:35How many animals did you take?
21:37We took 3 animals.
21:39They charge 700 rupees
21:41for a loader and 300 rupees for a lifter.
21:43They charge 50 rupees for a loader
21:45and they don't let us stand.
21:47Did you come here to buy a bike?
21:49No, I came here to buy a bike.
21:51I appreciate you a lot
21:53because of the expenses
21:55that you have incurred.
21:57Before,
21:593-4 years ago,
22:01we used to get
22:03free of cost.
22:05This time, it is not like that.
22:07What is the name of the market?
22:09It is not the same.
22:11Do you come here often?
22:13Yes.
22:15I come from the goat market.
22:17How are you?
22:19We have 2 goats.
22:21We are selling the 3rd goat.
22:23We saw a goat missing.
22:25Did you pay for it?
22:27Yes, we paid for it.
22:29We took it by cutting the rope.
22:31How much did you pay?
22:331.5 lakhs.
22:35You have 2 goats now.
22:37How much did you pay for the 3rd goat?
22:3975,000 rupees.
22:41Do you have any complaint?
22:43No, I don't.
22:45Did you get the money you paid?
22:47We had the money.
22:49But you stole it.
22:51My brother is here.
22:53He took the goat by cutting the rope.
23:01This is amazing.
23:03Let's try to complain.
23:05This is amazing.
23:07This is a new scam.
23:09Let's ask more people
23:11about the situation.
23:13Let's talk to the shopkeepers.
23:15How much did you pay for the goat?
23:17We bought it.
23:19How much did you pay?
23:2185,000 rupees.
23:23This goat is 85,000 rupees.
23:2585,000 rupees each.
23:27You have to be careful.
23:29Your brother is here.
23:31He took the goat by cutting the rope.
23:33How much did you pay?
23:3510,000 rupees.
23:37Do you think the deal is okay now?
23:39Yes, it is okay.
23:41You have made a good deal.
23:43What are the shopkeepers complaining about?
23:45They don't get the facilities.
23:47They don't get the papers.
23:49They don't get the papers.
23:51Did you face any problem
23:53when you came out?
23:55No, I didn't face any problem.
23:57They are only giving us the papers.
23:59They are only telling us the issues.
24:01They are taking it.
24:03Thank you so much.
24:05May Allah accept your sacrifice.
24:07How are you?
24:09What is your name?
24:11What are you here for?
24:12To buy a goat
24:13Have you bought it?
24:14No, I want to buy it now
24:15Did you ask anyone?
24:16No, I have just come
24:17You haven't seen a goat?
24:18No, I have just come
24:19Ok, fine
24:20How many goats do you want?
24:211 or 2?
24:222
24:232 goats?
24:241 is for you
24:25Really?
24:26Ok, thank you
24:27Assalamualaikum
24:28How are you?
24:29What are you doing here?
24:30I came here to buy a goat
24:31What's the situation?
24:32It's very expensive
24:33Really?
24:34The small ones
24:35Where is the rate starting from?
24:36Lakh rupees 80,000
24:37Very high rate
24:38How much is it going up from your budget?
24:39Very high
24:40Is there any hope that you will get it?
24:41Inshallah
24:42Ok, may Allah accept your sacrifice and your intentions
24:43Assalamualaikum
24:44Walaikumassalam
24:45You are here to buy a goat?
24:46I have come here to buy a goat
24:47How many animals have you seen so far?
24:48I have been looking around since morning
24:49Really?
24:50The rate is very high
24:51So what do you want to buy?
24:52I want to buy a goat
24:53You want to buy a goat
24:54So how much is it?
24:55I want to buy it in the range of 50-60
24:56But if the goat is good, it will be more than 100,000
24:57More than 100,000
24:58These people who were standing here
24:59They have bought 6 animals for 80-85,000
25:00Ok
25:01They were good animals
25:02May Allah bless you
25:03Ok, thank you
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