• 4 months ago
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Budget par Thappa Lagane kay bad dekhta Hoon ye Awam Main Kaise Kharay Hotay Hai" Shabbar Zaidi's Statement
Transcript
00:00Shabaz Zaidi, you are the chairman of FBR, you understand targets well sir.
00:05We have seen that year on year, if we look at our history, we see an increase of 20% in revenues and tax collection.
00:14This time, an ambitious budget has been set, 12,900 Arab Revenue Target for the next fiscal year.
00:19That means 3800 billion new taxation increase in the previous.
00:23Is this realistic for you? Is it achievable?
00:27Bismillah-ir-Rahman-ir-Rahim.
00:29Look, I can tell you candidly that I am very disappointed with this budget.
00:36And my friend Salim Mandviwala is sitting with me.
00:40I just want to tell him in short, that Shabaz Sharif took his World Bank traders and agriculturalists.
00:50And when you will publish this, then I will see how you stand in the public.
00:56Mr. Junaid Botiwala, my brother is sitting with me.
00:59Ask him that the exporter was given 1% off.
01:03You have told such a long story, Mr. Bukhari.
01:06You did not mention the biggest sector, that is the exporter.
01:10The tax of the exporter was 1% off.
01:12Yes sir, I did it yesterday, that's why I invited everyone today.
01:14Wherever it did not happen, then I would have been talking for 40 minutes.
01:17But you are right, there is a flashback.
01:19My intention is to say that we are talking so much.
01:23But we are not talking about the fundamental mistake we have made.
01:26You are telling me that the tax of the exporter was 1% off.
01:31You increased it to 39% or 55% if I am not a listed company.
01:37No sensible person in the world can accept this.
01:42If anyone in the world has a brain, even if he has two brains,
01:46then I know that you are increasing it from 1% of the turnover to 55%.
01:52I am the director of two big textile companies.
01:56And I have received this news in the newspaper.
01:59I have received it on TV.
02:01I had no clue what they were going to do.
02:04And today I am telling you this.
02:06Mr. Salim Mahdiwala is also sitting.
02:08And Mr. Zubair Motiwala is also sitting.
02:10I am telling my sources that I have so much power that I will get it back.
02:15And you understand who I will get it back from.
02:18Then you tell me, Mr. Salim, who is civilian Zubair Messi called?
02:24I am telling you this on record today.
02:27That it will be back.
02:29And all of them are sitting here and clapping.
02:31And they did not understand what you did with the exporter.
02:35And why did you do it?
02:37Now you go ahead.
02:39Secondly, explain to me,
02:41which country is it in which you are saying that there is no growth measure.
02:48And you are going to borrow 7,000 billion.
02:51And you are spending 17,000 billion.
02:54Non-productive.
02:56And you are fooling me that there will be no inflation in the country.
02:59I mean, the secondary school, the secondary class child also understands this.
03:06The third thing I want to say is that in 1992, Mr. Nawaz Sharif's government came.
03:12Aurangzeb is standing and saying that I am going to complete Mr. Nawaz Sharif's mission.
03:17From 1992 to 2018, there was a government of PMLN or the previous party.
03:23And Pakistan was destroyed in this era.
03:25So do you want to bring that mission again?
03:28In which world are you sitting?
03:30Do you think this is the first time you have come to the government?
03:33Was there no Nawaz Sharif's government from 1952 to 2018?
03:40I don't understand that you people are also presenting such long stories.
03:45You don't understand the basic things that they are saying.
03:49I can tell you with confidence.
03:51I am absolutely sure.
03:52I have dealt with Zubair Motiwala on 85 budgets.
03:56I have never seen a budget so unprepared and so far away from economics in my life.
04:09Generally, there are 200-250 pages in the budget document.
04:16There are a total of 123 pages in this.
04:18And they didn't understand what to do.
04:21Let's go to Mr. Mandiwala.
04:23Mr. Mandiwala, will you pass a budget so far away from economics and economics?
04:28Will you do it? Sir, inevitably.
04:30First of all, Mr. Shabbar is my old friend.
04:35He is also our colleague.
04:39We have worked together.
04:41First of all, I want to assure him that we are not going to put a stamp on any budget.
04:47And all the talks he has had, if he has seen the committee proceedings today,
04:53we have talked about what kind of budget he should bring.
04:58And there is nothing else in this budget except destruction.
05:03So one thing I want to assure Mr. Shabbar,
05:07that any such thing, export is one thing, right?
05:12And whatever talks he has had, I totally agree with him.
05:17These things need to be corrected.
05:20And God willing, we will correct it.
05:23Budget as it is, will not pass under any circumstances.
05:27Budget will be corrected.
05:29And all the corrections required...
05:32What are the sticking points, Mr. Mandiwala?
05:34Because you will get it passed.
05:36This will definitely happen.
05:39You know, I also know.
05:41But what are the sticking points that are non-negotiable for you?
05:44Budget has to be passed.
05:46Without that, the country will not move forward.
05:48If the budget is not passed, then you know, there will be a crisis in the country.
05:53I mean, another election possibly, sir.
05:55The government will get packing, but okay.
05:57No, I don't know if it will go that far.
06:00Because I understand that whatever Mr. Shabbar has said,
06:04has been discussed in the committee today.
06:07We will not allow export at all.
06:10That it should be damaged in any way.
06:13And it will be reversed on our committee, God willing.
06:18And this 1% regime will run, God willing.
06:21We will convince the government that there is no other way.
06:24If you put export in any other regime,
06:28then apart from the export effect, it will be completely damaged.
06:34Sir, but it is also better to finally bring these exporters into the tax net.
06:38We all complain together that a lot of these segments of society are not being taxed the way they should be.
06:43But that being said, because they already complain that we are not competitive in the international market.
06:49Given our tax tariffs, given the tax regime over here, given the electricity system here.
06:56I mean, they don't get a competitive edge.
07:00But do you believe, do you feel it will be reversed, as Mr. Zaidi is saying?
07:05I am saying that they are in the regime.
07:08It is not that they are out of the regime.
07:10The regime is made separate for them.
07:12And it is not only made by Pakistan, but every country has made it.
07:15To increase their exports.
07:17Sir, if I am not wrong, how much is their tax, 71 billion?
07:21Your salaried class is paying 300 billion tax.
07:23It is equal to not being in the tax regime, isn't it, sir?
07:26Look, all the people who work in the export business, they are also of the salaried class.
07:33They also pay tax.
07:35Look, don't look at it in isolation.
07:38Look at its overall tax.
07:40What is its contribution to your economy?
07:43When you analyze that, if you want to change this regime,
07:48and you want to change the regime without talking to the exporters,
07:53and the effects that will come from it,
07:56they are more damaging to the country than anything else.
07:59Sir, Mr. Zaidi, you are bringing the exporters from the presumptive tax regime to the normal tax regime.
08:06So you are looking at its pushback.
08:08Mr. Bukhari, listen to me.
08:10Salim is absolutely right.
08:12Exporters, Bangladesh is our competitor.
08:15In Bangladesh, 50% of export income is exempt.
08:19Earlier, it was 100%.
08:21Okay?
08:22The exporters in our country, you tell me,
08:25that you still have a section that if a person sends dollars from Dubai, it becomes white.
08:30It is still a law.
08:31Okay?
08:32And the person who is sending goods from Pakistan and bringing dollars,
08:36you are telling him that his tax is less than the salary or less than this.
08:40This is not that story.
08:41I am not saying this, Mr. Mehar.
08:43I am not saying this.
08:44I am saying that I had a dream that my rate will be 55% instead of 1%.
08:50If I am not a company,
08:53Mr. Zubair Motiwala will confirm that if I am not a company,
08:56then my rate will be 45% plus super tax will be 55%.
09:0155% tax is not in any society in the world.
09:05Okay, let's take Mr. Motiwala's input on this too.

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