"This has taken on a much more severe outcome for the ANC than was expected"

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SA UK Bilateral Research Professor in Political Theory at Wits and Cambridge Lawrence Hamilton speaks to CGTN Europe about the results of the 2024 election in South Africa.
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00:00 Now Lawrence Hamilton is Professor of Political Studies at the University of
00:03 Witwatersrand in Johannesburg. He's currently in the UK and joins us now live.
00:07 Lawrence, thanks very much indeed for joining us. First of all, you know, I mean South Africa's had
00:13 a kind of coalition government experience before, but is this a crisis or was it inevitable that
00:18 the ANC would eventually start to lose its vote share? Good evening Andrew and good evening to
00:25 your viewers. No, it's an absolutely historic result. It's an historic election. I think it
00:32 was inevitable over time, but this has taken on a very different look and a much
00:40 more severe outcome for the ruling ANC than was expected. I think many people were putting
00:46 their loss down to 50%, 45% around there, but the Mkontawe Seeswere, the new party, only
00:55 five or six months old, scooped 14.59% as things stand, and that is essentially a fraction
01:03 of the ANC under Zuma that has really, really undermined the ANC's majority support and thrown
01:11 a very serious catamaran for pigeons here. Yeah, I understand that the vote in favour of Zuma's new
01:17 party was pretty concentrated in one particular geographical area, but now we have police being
01:23 deployed, so clearly there's tension in the country which you were alluding to, and there's
01:27 this disenfranchised figure in Jacob Zuma looking to get back into politics. So what's likely to
01:32 happen now, do you think? Well, so I think following some comments yesterday evening,
01:40 Jacob Zuma has threatened, not necessarily violence, but at least warned that he shouldn't
01:48 be provoked, and there have been some allegations thrown around about the IEC not running matters as
01:54 they should. But I think effectively what's going on here is that there is a jostle for power,
02:00 and the ANC literally, as we speak, Cyril Ramaphosa is starting his announcement at the IEC,
02:10 the election results announcement, and what will probably take place if there's no outbreak of any
02:21 form of violence is that the ANC will come together, it's already come together in various
02:28 forms, and it will open up invitations to form a coalition government, either with the Democratic
02:36 Alliance, which is a right-leaning party, or with the EFF and some other smaller parties,
02:45 that's the Economic Freedom Front, and some other smaller parties. The chance of any relationship
02:51 between Mkontawe Sizwe and the ANC is very slight indeed, just to correct your correspondent there,
02:57 I don't think that is a possibility at all. So those are the two main options really open to
03:03 the ANC. There is the possibility of creating some kind of unity government or government of
03:10 national unity to get through this crisis of some kind or other, but my guess is that it'll go one
03:18 way or the other, rather than that route. In other words, it'll go with the DA or with more left
03:26 leaning, more populist groups like the EFF. Lawrence Hamilton, thanks very much indeed
03:32 for joining us tonight on CGTN.

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