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00:00 Rogue nation was at Alexandria, Virginia more specifically a juvenile detention center recording when officer
00:07 Gray walked up to him. All right, sir. My name is officer gray man. Let me give you a elbow bump
00:13 Covid let me explain to you what's going on obviously
00:17 So the officer has
00:26 So this other officer has been talking to you trying to figure out what you're up to which is you know
00:30 I don't care if you record this America you can walk freely pretty much wherever you want
00:35 This is where the passive aggressiveness begin. However
00:39 I'm pretty sure you're aware that this
00:42 It's not noted. No trespassing. However, it is noted as private property. Would you agree with that?
00:47 Where?
00:50 It says private property
00:54 It doesn't I always check
00:56 Yeah, this is these things on the light polar for parking that's up if you park here you'll get towed but there's no private property
01:09 sign here
01:11 Private parking. Yep parking. I'm not parked here
01:14 The officer shut his own efforts down by clearly reading the sign now he tries
01:20 manipulation
01:23 With it saying private parking. Uh-huh. Do you think that a reasonable person?
01:27 Could surmise this is private property. Yes or no? No, and I'll tell you the reason why because
01:32 It's for authorized. He says unauthorized vehicles
01:36 So if my kid was here and I wanted to come visit would I be allowed to park here? Okay
01:41 Let me ask you this
01:42 What was your interaction with the gentleman that came out and spoke with you the officer is asking about this interaction?
01:48 Which took place before he showed up
01:50 Can we help you with something sir?
01:52 No, I'm fine. Thank you. Okay, but this is private property
01:54 It's actually public it's a juvenile detention center for Virginia. Yeah
02:00 I'm just doing a story. I'm a journalist
02:03 So I just came out here to get some b-roll footage of the outside of the facility. Perhaps you could help me
02:09 How big is the facility about how many people does it hold?
02:12 I'm not going to ask all that but
02:14 Can I help you with something?
02:16 I just asked you for help
02:18 I'll call you back
02:20 Okay
02:22 Thank you
02:24 He came up he said
02:26 He said what are you doing? I said I'm a journalist. I'm gathering content on a story
02:30 He said can I help you?
02:32 I said I just would like to know how many
02:34 You know people the facility can hold
02:36 He said I'm not going to answer that he turned around he walked back inside. That was our interaction
02:40 Okay
02:42 He is stating
02:44 Okay
02:46 That he asked you to leave
02:48 He said he advised you that this is private property
02:50 That he wasn't going to answer any questions
02:52 And he asked you to leave
02:54 Did that happen?
02:56 No I do not believe so
02:58 You don't believe so or did or didn't
03:00 I didn't hear
03:02 Did you answer any questions?
03:04 Did he ask you to leave?
03:06 No he did not ask me to leave
03:08 Now he might have said this is private property
03:10 And I might have told him that this is public property
03:12 Because Donald Trump doesn't own this
03:14 He does which makes it public
03:16 Okay well right now
03:18 Again we are talking about a reasonableness standard
03:20 Right
03:22 It's my perspective
03:24 Based on my years of training and experience
03:26 That looking at these private parking sites
03:28 A reasonable person could easily infer that this is private property
03:30 Because if it's private to where they can have somebody tell you
03:32 It's private to where they can tell you to leave
03:34 Right
03:36 I'm just going to tell you
03:38 Possibly
03:40 No definitely
03:42 Okay definitely
03:44 So again
03:46 We've got a difference of opinion
03:48 I'm not here to take anybody's side
03:50 And what I am telling you is
03:52 That gentleman down there
03:54 Who works for the Department of Juvenile Justice
03:56 Stated that he asked you to leave
03:58 I don't care about you filming
04:00 Anything you want to walk around on the public sidewalk
04:02 You can film it
04:04 And he's the authorized representative
04:06 He is the authorized representative
04:08 He is the administrator
04:10 He is the person on duty that's in charge right now
04:12 Okay
04:14 So here's the situation
04:16 Um
04:18 He doesn't want to press charges
04:20 For trespassing
04:22 Which this is what this has turned into
04:24 Is a trespassing investigation
04:26 Okay so
04:28 He doesn't want to press charges but he wants to borrow you from the property
04:30 So with that said
04:32 In order for me to do that
04:34 I need to get your ID
04:36 Because this is a trespassing investigation
04:38 And I am lawfully
04:40 Allowed to see your identification
04:42 So I'm asking you
04:44 Nicely let's work together
04:46 All I'm going to do is fill you out a bond notice
04:48 Saying you're not allowed to come on the property
04:50 And I'm going to give it right back to you
04:52 Okay well when they showed up I was actually off the property
04:54 So trespassing works like this
04:56 He asked me to leave
04:58 I get off the property
05:00 Okay but you're saying that
05:02 Okay either way
05:04 Rogue Nation makes clear
05:06 He's told to leave he will leave
05:08 But the cop presses on
05:10 Point is this
05:12 He doesn't want you to be coming back on the property
05:14 Sure
05:16 I want your identification information
05:18 So that I can put your information down
05:20 On the apartment notice
05:22 Letting people know
05:24 So that we know if you come back here
05:26 That you have been barred from the property
05:28 And next time you'll be arrested
05:30 We're not trying to arrest you
05:32 So let me get your ID real quick
05:34 So I can clarify and understand
05:36 If I wasn't to get my ID I would be arrested
05:38 Is that what you're saying?
05:40 It's possible
05:42 I'm trying to avoid that
05:44 You've been polite and cooperative with me
05:46 I want to work with you
05:48 Absolutely no I'm the same way
05:50 And I don't mind like I said if it's a possibility
05:52 Of me getting arrested I'll give you my ID all day long
05:54 But if not I'm a rights activist
05:56 I'd like to just be on my way
05:58 I would like to get your ID because you're going to be barred from the property
06:00 Okay
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