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Host:
- Maria Memon
Guests:
- Muhammad Malik (Senior Analyst)
- Kamran Yousaf (Analyst)
- Mohammad Zubair (Former Governor Sindh)
"Do aise shakhs hain jo dono hi apni jaga se hatne ke liye tayyar nahi," Muhammad Malick
"Khan Sahab Shayad Is Waqt Phanse Huay Hain...," Kamran Yousaf comments on Bani PTI's politics
What challenges does Nawaz Sharif have to face after becoming PML-N president?
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Mariam Aiman and today we have Top Stories.
00:16Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf has stalled on its tweet.
00:19Today, the President of Pakistan, Arif Alvi, said that he does not see anything wrong in this tweet.
00:26In the first part, we will talk about the current state of affairs.
00:30After this, we will take a comprehensive look at Nawaz Sharif's speech in 2018,
00:36when he left the PMLN post and today's speech, when he has again accepted this post.
00:44How much difference is there in this statement?
00:46We will discuss this in the second part of the program.
00:48In the end, the Commission always remembers the political parties in the opposition.
00:53We will tell you what the Noon League thought about this in the last part of the program.
00:58Let's start with the Tariq-e-Insaaf tweet, in which the report of Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission has been discussed.
01:05Today, the former President of Pakistan, Arif Alvi, defended and supported this tweet.
01:13He also asked the question, what is wrong with this tweet?
01:18Now you have got the report of Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission to play?
01:21Is there a limit? What has Imran Khan said?
01:24Imran Khan has said that read the report of Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission.
01:28It is the report of your government. What did he betray?
01:33Yesterday, Hamid Khan was in our show.
01:35Because he is a very important member of their legal team.
01:38He is a senior, he is related to their leadership.
01:41So when I asked him a question about this tweet,
01:44he said more or less the same answer.
01:46He said, what is wrong with this tweet?
01:48Which country's integrity has been harmed?
01:52In Tariq-e-Insaaf, a consistent view is being raised.
01:55Let's listen to this.
01:56The point on this tweet is that it does not have this message
02:02that the country's integrity should be harmed.
02:05This is not the policy of PTI.
02:07We are a patriotic people.
02:09PTI is a patriotic party.
02:11No such meaning can be taken from it.
02:15Another important member of Imran Khan's legal team, Ali Zafar.
02:19Anyway, he gave a conflicting statement yesterday in Samar Abbas's show.
02:23He said that the message was something else.
02:26Maybe the conveyance of this tweet was not done properly.
02:29The communication issue between him and the conveyance is visible.
02:35He accused him of that. Let's listen to this.
02:38He does not have a phone.
02:40He cannot directly type on Twitter.
02:42Many times, what the author has to say does not reach the end.
02:49Therefore, the message he had to convey
02:53may have reached the end of the corridor.
02:57It may not have been conveyed properly.
03:03He is talking about a game called Chinese Whisper.
03:08Maybe the message was something else.
03:10It may have reached the end of the corridor.
03:12Maybe the message was not conveyed properly.
03:15Anyway, he is not standing with the endorsement of this party.
03:22Yesterday, we saw the court hearing of Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:25There was an exchange of a few words.
03:28The people of the party who thought that this tweet should be deleted
03:32were not in the majority.
03:34They were found to be in the minority.
03:36Anyway, it was decided that this tweet will not be deleted.
03:40After a while, an announcement of Tariq-e-Insaaf was made.
03:43In that announcement, it was said that
03:45against Bani Chairman PTI, a post on social media
03:47and the investigation of the FIA
03:49and on this basis, any possibility of a new case
03:52is denied without justification.
03:55To save Pakistan from the serious internal challenges of 1971,
03:59to learn from history and to inform the people of the facts,
04:02the Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission's report
04:04was also requested to be brought to the public immediately.
04:08The peace of East Pakistan is the most significant event in our national history.
04:12Its causes and instigations are political in every way.
04:15The Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission, appointed by the Government of Pakistan,
04:18has also mentioned these factors in detail in its report.
04:23Yesterday, the announcement was made.
04:25Today, the President's statement was made.
04:27But in the meantime, the FIA is doing its job very well.
04:32They have given three notices.
04:34The first notice has been sent to Gauhar Ayub.
04:38The second notice has been sent to Rauf Hassan.
04:41The third notice has been sent to Barrister Gauhar Khan.
04:44All of these have been requested on Tuesday.
04:47They will be presented regarding this case.
04:49The investigation will continue.
04:52Mr. Arif Alvi had a very deep speech today.
04:57He said that we should sit down and talk.
05:00We should bring the stakeholders.
05:02Not the pawns, but the stakeholders should sit at the table.
05:04Only then will we be able to move forward.
05:06We should move forward.
05:08The first solution is that there is no solution
05:11until you bring the stakeholders to the table.
05:14Stakeholders, not pawns, not puppets.
05:18And right now, there are two biggest stakeholders.
05:21One is Mr. Imran Khan.
05:22Because he has been mandated by the people.
05:24This is not the mandate of Form 47.
05:26But if people give him a mandate,
05:28that whatever you do, we will also stand on it,
05:31then he can also talk.
05:33But if the stakeholders are not at the table,
05:35then the decision will not be made.
05:39After Mr. Arif Alvi's statement,
05:40and after the announcement of Pakistan Justice,
05:42it is clear that justice is on the Twitter account.
05:46It is defending its content.
05:51Where will this case go from here?
05:53The FIA case has been closed.
05:54The notices have arrived.
05:55Three more party members have been served notices today,
05:58which will be presented to the FIA on Tuesday.
06:00We will talk to Mr. Mohammad Malik,
06:02who is a senior journalist.
06:04Mr. Kamran Yusuf, a senior journalist.
06:06Thank you both.
06:07Mr. Malik is going towards a head-on collision.
06:10But during this time, the new case that the FIA has made,
06:13the Judiciary is not retreating.
06:15They are saying that they are also standing with its content,
06:17and the tweet that was demanded from them,
06:20even if it is deleted, it will not be deleted.
06:23Can this case be problematic?
06:25Or can it take a serious turn?
06:28Or is it just like the cases that are being made,
06:30and have been made in the past,
06:31their logical conclusion,
06:33Shahzad and Nadir only reach this country.
06:35Will this be the same case?
06:38No, this is an all-out confrontation.
06:40Look, the Judiciary has tried to distance themselves
06:44to the extent of Imran Khan,
06:46as if they did not know.
06:47They are not managing it.
06:48It has happened.
06:49But neither did they delete it,
06:51nor are they owning up to the rest.
06:53So they want to make a difference of 19-20,
06:55and want to take its total impact.
06:57The matter is very simple.
06:59People have been talking about this in the past,
07:02about this commission report, everything.
07:05For the first time, it has happened that
07:07there are two people who are not ready to move from their place.
07:11Imran Khan is also sitting in his place,
07:13in an all-in, all-out confrontation.
07:15The decision of the top leadership of the establishment
07:17is that we do not want to talk.
07:19This is now a very volatile mix.
07:22And now this whole thing went on.
07:25More than this video,
07:27an issue arose, which was also Saad Khan's long tweet.
07:30At the end of this, he also wrote that
07:33General Yahya, because of him,
07:36the army had to be removed.
07:39On the other hand, you are saying that
07:41they are inviting mutiny and doing everything.
07:43I think Saad Khan has also reached this conclusion
07:47that in the current system,
07:49they are not able to find their place.
07:51And they also see that
07:53no one is ready to talk to them,
07:55from the establishment.
07:56So I think they have thought that
07:58then it is fine,
07:59then go to an all-out confrontation,
08:01call the maximum bluff,
08:03and force the establishment
08:05to play their maximum hand.
08:07And if there is any ultimate destruction of the system,
08:10then from the complete disorder,
08:12the new order that will come out,
08:13maybe they will have a chance.
08:15So I think there will be an extreme position.
08:18And now we see relief in this,
08:21that if the situation has to stop from the extreme situation,
08:25then if the judiciary's concentration is less
08:28with the establishment,
08:30then the lines have been divided very clearly.
08:32Judiciary vs. Executive and Establishment.
08:35And you have seen that
08:37even those who talk so cautiously,
08:39the Prime Minister,
08:40the day before yesterday,
08:41the one with the black sheep,
08:42and everything,
08:43he is not in such a mood.
08:45He talks without thinking.
08:48It was a deliberately made statement.
08:50But the Attorney General immediately retracted it.
08:54He got scared when the court asked.
08:56No, no, this seems to be a joke.
08:58He is saying that
09:00there are daily consultations
09:02as to how to provide relief.
09:04There are black sheep.
09:05It does not say that there were.
09:07So the previous judges are not giving daily consultations.
09:09And there I also found Attar Manila's retort
09:12when he said,
09:14No, no, we are black bumblebees.
09:16This conversation is not between the judge of the Supreme Court
09:19and the Prime Minister.
09:20Giving a statement of the Chief Executive
09:22is a direct accusation.
09:24And it is necessary for him to take action.
09:26If the Supreme Court calls Faisal Waghda and Nusrat Kamal,
09:30then ask the Chief Prime Minister
09:33what is the difference in statements.
09:35This will not be picked and used.
09:37Maybe the court should deliberate on this
09:39and show a little restraint on it.
09:40Mr. Kamal, this case,
09:41the questions,
09:42because the ex-president said today
09:45that there is an alarm.
09:46There is a very clear alarm.
09:47There is a very strict alarm.
09:48First it was said to apologize.
09:50Apology is not being asked.
09:51Then it was said to delete the tweet.
09:52The tweet is also not being deleted.
09:53Mr. Malik is standing right in front of us.
09:56How problematic can this case be?
10:24So the public voted for him.
10:26After that, I think,
10:27Mr. Imran Khan had the expectation
10:29that even today he is relevant in the system.
10:31The powers that be,
10:32the establishment,
10:33will talk to him
10:35and will bring him back into the system.
10:37But despite those results,
10:40contrary to Mr. Imran Khan's expectations,
10:42there was no change in that.
10:44So at this time,
10:45I think Mr. Imran Khan's main objective
10:48is clear.
10:49You can say that
10:51the aggressive posturing,
10:53the rhetoric,
10:54and the confrontation
10:56he wants to take to that stage
10:58where the other side
11:00is forced to talk to him.
11:02Now the problem is that
11:03there are very clear positions from both sides.
11:06On one side,
11:07Mr. Imran Khan wants to talk
11:09and wants to talk under pressure.
11:11He says that even today
11:12he is the most accepted leader of Pakistan.
11:14He cannot be ignored.
11:16On the other side,
11:17the people who are sitting
11:18do not want to talk to him at all.
11:20In their opinion,
11:21Mr. Imran Khan is the agent of chaos.
11:23You cannot talk to him.
11:25You cannot trust him.
11:27So these are all the reasons
11:29for which we have come to this situation.
11:31Now let's see.
11:33I think the cases that you talked about,
11:35these things have been left behind.
11:37Because the cases have been made before.
11:39They will be made.
11:40It doesn't matter.
11:41But overall,
11:42the atmosphere of confrontation,
11:43where does it go?
11:44I think this is very important.
11:46And I agree with Mr. Malik
11:49that Mr. Imran Khan's best bet is
11:51that if he takes this confrontation forward
11:55and there is chaos in it
11:57and as a result of this chaos,
11:58if some people leave
12:00and then after that chaos,
12:02when the dust settles down,
12:04then he feels that he has a chance.
12:06Otherwise,
12:07apparently,
12:08Imran Khan feels that
12:09in the near future,
12:10in the foreseeable future,
12:11the current situation,
12:12despite his popularity,
12:14his comeback may not be easy.
12:16So this is a calculated move
12:18on the part of Imran Khan and Tehreek-e-Inshaaq.
12:20So Mr. Malik,
12:21apart from this,
12:22what are the other options?
12:24Is there a confidence-building measure?
12:26We saw in the recent past
12:28that there was a dialogue,
12:29an atmosphere of conversation.
12:31And the tone set by Imran Khan
12:34and the way he fought the election,
12:36more or less,
12:37does he have the option
12:38to move away from that?
12:40Or is it okay
12:41to sit somewhere in the middle
12:42and talk?
12:43So apart from this,
12:44what is the scenario?
12:45If there is no pressure from both sides
12:47and there is no talk
12:48at the extreme,
12:49at the front foot,
12:50then what is the possible scenario
12:52apart from this?
12:54Look,
12:55if you get a little bit of a lead,
12:57then it becomes very important
12:59for the judiciary.
13:00Now we are seeing
13:01that the judicial decisions
13:02are also being messaged.
13:04And how is it messaged?
13:06That every decision,
13:07the other side is understanding
13:09that the judiciary
13:10or every decision
13:11that is going in favor of the PTI,
13:13it is going so that
13:14you give a message
13:15to the establishment
13:16that take this,
13:17take this.
13:18If this is the case,
13:19then take this too.
13:20Now,
13:21the concentration has increased a lot.
13:23Now,
13:24somewhere,
13:25there will be a little tone down.
13:27I think if there is a little tone down
13:29of the judiciary
13:30and the establishment,
13:31then maybe there will be a difference
13:33in the PTI policies
13:34and that too,
13:35there will be a little tone down.
13:37The problem is
13:38that
13:39there is so much personal mistrust
13:41that no arbiter
13:42can play a role.
13:44Now,
13:45the three most important people,
13:47the relevant people,
13:48according to me,
13:49in politics,
13:50the most relevant person
13:51has more power.
13:52If you see,
13:53the elder husband,
13:54he has a brother,
13:55who is the Prime Minister,
13:56his daughter is the Chief Minister,
13:58but is he very relevant right now?
14:00I don't think so.
14:01But Imran Khan,
14:02who is in jail,
14:03he is very relevant.
14:04The three most relevant people
14:06are Imran Khan,
14:07Army Chief,
14:08Chief Justice of Pakistan.
14:10All three have a history
14:12and a history of conflict.
14:14That is why
14:15there is a lot of mistrust.
14:16There is no arbiter left in the country.
14:18There is no outside arbiter.
14:20Now,
14:21at least two of the three
14:23are standing on one side
14:24and one is standing on the other.
14:25Now,
14:26as long as Imran Khan
14:27and the establishment
14:28are not there,
14:29I don't see any rapprochement
14:30at any level.
14:31But the executive and
14:32the establishment
14:33of the judiciary
14:34conflict can be reduced.
14:36If this conflict is reduced,
14:38then there will be a little
14:39reduction in the situation.
14:40I will give you an example,
14:41I will give you an example
14:42very quickly.
14:43Now, look at May 9th.
14:44I don't think
14:45even the Supreme Court
14:46should throw a gun.
14:48May 9th,
14:49a strange red line
14:50has been created
14:51for everyone.
14:52You just heard
14:53the announcement
14:54of the formation commanders.
14:55Even before that,
14:56the Army says
14:57to decide on May 9th.
14:58This is also said.
14:59The PTI also says
15:00to decide on May 9th.
15:01But do it in the
15:02civilian courts.
15:03Everyone says
15:04that the culprits should be punished.
15:05Why is the Supreme Court
15:06sitting with a case?
15:07Why doesn't it decide
15:08that we have to do it here,
15:09we have to do it there?
15:10Do it.
15:11Whether it will go to
15:12the military court
15:13or the civilian court,
15:14it is such a big
15:15legal wound,
15:16but it is just
15:17getting hurt
15:18politically.
15:19Why aren't you
15:20sitting with it?
15:21Why don't you
15:22do it on one side
15:23so that it is such
15:24a big stumbling block
15:25which is trapped
15:26in national power politics
15:27and popular politics.
15:28The Supreme Court
15:29is not sitting on it.
15:30They will run
15:31the whole live
15:32transmission
15:33in other cases.
15:34In the case
15:35in which everything
15:36is stuck again and again,
15:37Imran Khan is trapped in it
15:38or his party is trapped
15:39in it.
15:40The political situation
15:41of the whole country
15:42is a hostage
15:43on May 9th.
15:44Whether it is wrong
15:45or right,
15:46that is for later.
15:47But the Supreme Court
15:48is not sitting
15:49on it.
15:50The bench is
15:51sitting on everything
15:52else.
15:53Why isn't it happening?
15:54Now here you think
15:55that the community
15:56is not playing the game.
15:57If Imran Khan
15:58is doing it
15:59according to
16:00his political
16:01strategy,
16:02the army is doing
16:03it according to
16:04what they
16:05think is better.
16:06What is the Supreme
16:07Court doing?
16:08They are not
16:09playing the game.
16:10This is what
16:11you are saying.
16:12We are three players.
16:13I will bring this
16:14to you, Kamran.
16:15We saw that
16:16there were many
16:17decisions in the
16:18past
16:19which were
16:20done by
16:21the political
16:22leadership
16:23of Tariq-e-Insaf
16:24or their
16:25lawyers
16:26or the
16:27legal
16:28leadership
16:29who were
16:30semi-political.
16:31But then
16:32there was pressure
16:33within the
16:34party,
16:35there was
16:36pressure
16:37But there is a strong political force in the party that says that we will not delete it.
16:43So are these matters now in the hands of the political leadership of Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf
16:49or the decisions have to be revisited according to the narrative or the movement that is going on from below?
16:59I don't know if this comparison is correct or not.
17:03This is about the Afghan Taliban. You know that there is pressure on the Afghan Taliban to moderate their policies.
17:09Now their hardline class or even the younger lot says that we have fought for this system or their interpretation of Islam.
17:19If we bring our change today, then the leadership of the Afghan Taliban is also afraid that they will not remain popular in that way.
17:26So if Imran Khan and the leadership of Tariq-e-Insaaf, who have taken a stance of anti-establishment,
17:31if they bring some change in it, then the fear is that Imran Khan also thinks that perhaps his popular support will continue to go.
17:39The example of Nawaz Sharif is in front of us. So I think this is also a very big dilemma.
17:43When they take the approach of confrontation, we have seen many of their leaders who are saying that we should keep our hands loose.
17:52But at the same time, if you look at their younger lot on social media, they say that we should be afraid. Imran Khan has said the right thing.
18:00So I think this is also a very big dilemma for Imran Khan that if he moves back a little, then he is afraid that his popularity can be defeated.
18:09But I think the overall situation at the moment, I think what is Imran Khan's endgame?
18:15I think he is stuck between revolution and evolution.
18:20Does he want a revolution? If you want a revolution, then you want all out.
18:24Then you will not even talk to anyone. Then you will say that because I am popular, I have to bring that change.
18:29But if they want to evolve, they want to bring this change through a revolution, then for that, as I was listening to Asad Umar, I agree with him.
18:38He said that these democratic attitudes, when you say that I will not talk to any political party, this method is not right.
18:44I think somewhere, while the confrontation is going on with their establishment, Imran Khan or the political leadership,
18:51they need to open a channel of communication, a working relationship, a back channel.
18:58And in the past, we have seen the example of Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif, how deadly their confrontation was.
19:06But when the time comes, if they are on a common objective, then I think we should see this.
19:36We will go on a break. When we come back, Zubair Umar will be with us.
19:39We were listening to Nawaz Sharif's speech. He has taken over the leadership of his party again.
19:43We will analyze his speech when he left the leadership of the party versus the speech when he took over the leadership of the party.
19:52How much difference has come? Stay with us after the break.
19:56Welcome back. Last week, Nawaz Sharif took over the leadership of Pakistan Muslim Nawaz again.
20:01In 2018, he lost the leadership when he handed over the power to his brother.
20:09And when he gave a speech in which he was separating himself from the leadership,
20:14in that speech, he talked about the future course of his party.
20:21How will this party move forward? What kind of politics will PMLN do?
20:26What kind of politics will PMLN do? What kind of politics will PMLN do?
20:29Will there be respect? Will there be principles? Will there be non-principles?
20:33Nawaz Sharif made a very clear statement in his last speech in 2018 as the President of PMLN.
20:42We will call principles as principles and non-principles as non-principles.
20:47How long will we tolerate the insults of our vote?
20:50We don't want to do politics that disrespects us.
20:54If we leave the principles and principles, what will the public do?
21:00You are a big loser in this game. Where is the respect for your vote?
21:04And where is our respect? I am not ready to rule this system.
21:08I will do as much as I have to do to bring such a system in Pakistan,
21:13where there is a rule of vote, where there is a constitution of vote, where there is respect for vote.
21:17We don't want this system. We don't want this system.
21:21This was Nawaz Sharif in 2018.
21:24After that, politics changed a lot.
21:27During this time, PMLN slowly started advancing its aggressive politics, anti-establishment politics.
21:34And it got to the point that a sitting army chief,
21:38took the name of a sitting general and pointed out PMLN's habits several times.
21:44And he pointed out the ways in which PMLN has been involved in political victimization.
21:51Whether it is the lion's mark,
21:54I am sorry, the lion's mark, I am sorry.
21:56In that too, who did PMLN hold responsible for this?
21:59Let us listen to this quickly.
22:02To get rid of the lion's mark, General Faiz Ameer and his team are completely involved.
22:09General Qamar Javed Bajwa sahib, you are the one who gave this honor.
22:14You got our good and prosperous government to leave.
22:17General Bajwa, then General Faiz and Saqib Nisar were a joint devotee.
22:22They together got rid of Nawaz Sharif.
22:25Saqib Nisar is on record saying that we will not let Nawaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz get out of jail.
22:33And we have to bring Iman Khan.
22:36And he also said that it is the decision of those people.
22:39Who were those people? General Bajwa and General Faiz.
22:43He comes and finishes the load-shedding of electricity.
22:45So, four judges sit and keep running the ministers of mandate of millions of people.
22:49And who is behind him?
22:51General Bajwa and General Faiz are behind him.
22:55So, now we are seeing who was the biggest villain in Nawaz Sharif's political struggle.
23:03Fast forward to year 2024.
23:06Last week, Nawaz Sharif did a speech.
23:08And in that speech, we saw that his goal post had completely shifted.
23:12Now, the villain in his politics is not General Bajwa and General Faiz.
23:16Now, that villain is only and only Imran Khan sahib.
23:19Let us see.
23:21Why will Imran Khan make false cases?
23:24Today, Imran Khan.
23:26Imran Khan.
23:27Imran Khan.
23:28Imran Khan.
23:29Imran Khan.
23:30Imran Khan.
23:31Imran Khan.
23:32Imran Khan.
23:33General Zaheer-ul-Islam.
23:34He says that we tried different parties.
23:38We allowed the third force.
23:41Imran Khan sahib.
23:42This third force was not you.
23:44If it was not you, then I am ready to retire from politics and go home.
23:48It was you.
23:49You.
23:50These people have laid the foundation of your politics.
23:52You have also overturned the throne of our government.
23:56So, we did not mention General Bajwa.
24:00We did not try to hear any passing comments.
24:04General Faiz was not mentioned.
24:06General Zaheer-ul-Islam was not mentioned.
24:08But most of his speeches were against Saqib Nisar and a large portion against Imran Khan, who is his political rival.
24:16So, the statements of Nawaz Sharif in 2018 and the statements of Nawaz Sharif in 2024 are completely different.
24:22So, what is the problem?
24:23Is PMLN looking for a statement?
24:25Or does PMLN have the conditions to make a statement?
24:29Salman Ghani, who is very informed about the PMLN camp, has written an interesting thing in his review.
24:36He says that according to his review, Nawaz Sharif has again become the president of the party.
24:41But there will be many challenges for him in the future.
24:44The biggest challenge for Nawaz Sharif will be that he will not be in a position to make big decisions in a corrupt government and in difficult circumstances.
24:50A big challenge for Nawaz Sharif will also be that will he be able to fulfill the public trust in his own government and will he be able to become a voice for the public?
24:58Nawaz Sharif will have pressure on his own government.
25:01And the situation is not such that the governments can provide relief to the public on a large scale.
25:07As far as Noon League's new political statement is concerned, it does not seem possible at the moment.
25:14The political situation is very much responsible for this.
25:18According to Salman Ghani, the Noon League and its governments are facing many challenges.
25:24And in this situation, they cannot tolerate any kind of adventure at the moment.
25:30So from 2018 to 2024, Nawaz Sharif's statement, his politics, his constituency and his voters responded to it.
25:38In this regard, we will talk about Zubair Sahib, who is also the Governor of Sindh.
25:41He has also been a translator.
25:42The entire Bajwa General Faiz, with whom Nawaz Sharif took the name and used to take on him.
25:50I don't know if Zubair Sahib would like to use the word collateral damage or not.
25:57Zubair Sahib, did you listen to Nawaz Sharif's speech?
25:59Were you surprised that now his political villain is only Imran Khan?
26:06He should have a political opponent in a healthy political environment.
26:10Yes, but I am not surprised at all.
26:14Actually, this is a very fine difference and realization.
26:19I don't know if it is there in Nawaz Sharif or not.
26:22The old things he was saying about Imran Khan, that Imran Khan facilitated in undermining democracy.
26:30This is what he was saying.
26:31So, what is he doing today?
26:33That is something that he needs to understand.
26:36The accusation that he is giving to Imran Khan.
26:39That Imran Khan, along with the leadership of the army and the leadership of the judiciary,
26:47undermined the democratic process.
26:50As a result, there was a brunt on PM Nawaz Sharif and PM LN.
26:55They are right up to that point.
26:57But they forget that PM Nawaz Sharif is playing a bigger role than that.
27:04In undermining the democracy in Pakistan.
27:07There is no doubt about it.
27:09There is no person in the world who says that Pakistan is on a strong democratic credentials.
27:15Everyone thinks, the whole world.
27:18I am not just talking about Pakistan.
27:20They all feel that the situation in Pakistan.
27:23As the situation developed in the last two years.
27:26The democratic forces have weakened badly.
27:30And now the dream of civil disobedience.
27:33I don't know where it has fallen or got stuck.
27:37I don't know who will rise after 5-10 years.
27:41And who will challenge the civil disobedience again.
27:46So, this is an important thing.
27:48In 2018, he said that their struggle is based on principles.
27:53The principles are based on the constitution.
27:55What is there in the constitution?
27:57It is civilian supremacy.
27:59And he was punished for that.
28:03But he should have come out of it in the same way.
28:07Like when he was martyred in 1999.
28:10And when the time for reflection came in exile.
28:13Then he reached out to Benazir Shaheed.
28:17And when he signed the Charter of Democracy in London.
28:21It was a recognition of that.
28:23That both of us have made mistakes.
28:25We have made mistakes in supporting each other.
28:28We have made mistakes in destroying democracy.
28:30We have made mistakes in humiliating each other.
28:32But obviously, the democracy in Pakistan was ruined badly.
28:36Not that I am justifying the military intervention.
28:38Not at all. Not even one bit.
28:40But it paved the way for the military to intervene.
28:44General Parvez Musharraf got an excuse.
28:47So today, instead of facilitating the same thing again.
28:51Read what is there in the Charter of Democracy.
28:56That we will fight among ourselves.
28:58We will fight among ourselves in the political field.
29:00Political players will fight.
29:01If such a realization happens, Maria.
29:04Then I think, Mian Nawaz Shiv has the most responsibility.
29:08Because he is the oldest political leader.
29:10Secondly, his party is in the government.
29:13His brother is in the prime minister.
29:15The Charter of Democracy that took place between two parties.
29:18If today, it is repeated in three parties.
29:21In which PTI is also included.
29:23Then three more main parties will also be included.
29:25I am not saying this.
29:26But if three mainstream parties do it.
29:28And this is the responsibility of Mian Nawaz Shiv.
29:31More than anyone else.
29:32But one second Mr. Zubair.
29:33He has seen everything.
29:34I believe in this.
29:35When Imran Khan was in the government.
29:36His job was to make consensus.
29:38His job was to bring temperatures down.
29:40Now he is responsible in the PMLN government.
29:42But even if he talks.
29:45Sit and talk.
29:46Mr. Rana Sinhaullah is talking in one way.
29:49Yes, sit and talk.
29:50But Tariq-e-Insaf is not interested.
29:52She wants to talk only to those.
29:54Who have little freedom in that country.
29:55Then Mr. Nawaz Shiv should initiate alone.
29:58One partner does not want to talk.
30:00Whose name is Tariq-e-Insaf.
30:02Mr. Rana Sinhaullah is talking very well.
30:10But he is not interested in the leadership of the PMLN.
30:14No one else is interested.
30:15At least what he says.
30:17That there should be a conversation.
30:18Imran Khan is a political reality.
30:20It should be accepted.
30:21And we should move forward in this way.
30:23The first thing is to accept.
30:25To realize.
30:26He is not the top leadership of the PMLN.
30:29And that is his natural reason.
30:31Because those who are stuck in a bad way at the moment.
30:34They are stuck because.
30:35The government from where you have got.
30:38You can't challenge that.
30:41Because if you challenge him.
30:42Then there is no acceptance in the first public.
30:44If you fight with them too.
30:46Then where will you go?
30:47And Imran Khan.
30:48Then it is obvious.
30:49All public support is with him.
30:52So at the moment.
30:53Nawaz Sharif or Shibaz Sharif.
30:57They are in no position to offer any reconciliation.
30:59Reconciliation on the basis of what?
31:26This is the contradiction.
31:38Very clear.
31:39When he was the sitting chief.
31:40We never talk about the sitting chief in Pakistan.
31:43In the past.
31:44We talk about Yahya Khan and Ayub Khan.
31:46But against the sitting chief.
31:48Never.
31:49I don't think.
31:50Except.
31:51When it happened for the first time.
31:54Nawaz Sharif started from Gujranwala Jalsa.
31:56And then he continued.
31:58So that was a strategy.
32:00When did this point come?
32:03In which there was a change.
32:04So this is the time of vote of no confidence.
32:06When you saw the opportunity.
32:08That was a surprise for many people.
32:11Including many people within the party.
32:14Why are you going to do such a thing at this time?
32:19With the support of the establishment.
32:21Because of which.
32:22You will have to compromise one after the other.
32:25And you got stuck.
32:27At that time, the idea was.
32:28No, you have to compromise only once.
32:30And then when we come to power.
32:32Then we will do whatever we want.
32:34You will remember.
32:35Maryam Nawaz gave a statement at a Jalsa.
32:40November 2022.
32:42When the change took place.
32:44When General Asim Muneer came.
32:46General Asim Muneer.
32:47So he said.
32:48We did not have a government until October.
32:50Mr. Bajwa used to run it.
32:52So you yourself conceded that Mr. Bajwa used to run it.
32:55That means you were compromised.
32:57And why were you compromised?
32:59If you had done something wrong, then you were compromised.
33:01You should not have come.
33:03That means you did not have the foresight.
33:05That if you do this.
33:06You will do vote of no confidence.
33:08With the support of the establishment.
33:10There will be an increase in difficulties for you.
33:12You will not get the support of the people.
33:14Which I did not get.
33:15Knowing Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
33:17With whom you worked.
33:19Will he go back to Biyaniya after a few months?
33:24Because his basic instinct is the same.
33:28Will he backtrack?
33:30No, now that basic instinct is over.
33:34Because the problem is that Biyaniya is the ownership of Imran Khan now.
33:39He gets all the credit for creating that Biyaniya.
33:43And to carry that Biyaniya's sibling supremacy or whatever.
33:46Whatever you call his past or future.
33:49People trust that he will come back.
33:52That is a different thing.
33:54But today's perception of Imran Khan.
33:56If Mr. Nawaz Sharif puts the same slogan.
33:59Then he will look like a B team of Imran Khan.
34:02And then the government will also have to give.
34:05And after giving the government.
34:07If there is a very simple calculation.
34:09The government also goes.
34:11And Imran Khan has that Biyaniya strongly.
34:14If it is their ownership.
34:16Then what will be the gain for Nawaz Sharif?
34:18Nothing.
34:19Mr. Zubair, did you see last night.
34:21I am asking a question about administrative and government.
34:24The price of petrol was told earlier.
34:26Maybe Rs. 15 will increase.
34:27Then it was found that it will increase by Rs. 4.5.
34:29How does this confusion happen?
34:31That a summary should go.
34:33A different summary should go from the Ministry of Treasury.
34:35The directive of the Prime Minister should be different.
34:37Does this happen?
34:39I mean, it's okay.
34:41It's such a procedural mistake.
34:44Maria, Pakistan's biggest problem is incompetence.
34:47And this is a reflection of that.
34:48There is nothing else to explain that.
34:50And in this regard.
34:51There was an interview with Shehzad Iqbal of Musaddiq Malik last week.
34:55In which SIFC and investment were discussed.
34:59It's been a year since SIFC was formed.
35:04Musaddiq Malik and other leaders themselves.
35:07Had big talks.
35:08Billions.
35:09And it was found that this has been the worst year.
35:11In terms of investment ratio in the last 50 years.
35:14So what did they answer?
35:16They answered that we have realized.
35:19That the big papers that we make.
35:21Or should make.
35:22And to attract those people.
35:25Investors or governments.
35:27Whether it's the Saudi government or the Chinese government.
35:30We don't have that skill set.
35:32We don't have the ability.
35:34This is what he said.
35:35More or less.
35:36That we can't even do the paperwork.
35:39Now if after a year.
35:40Such an educated minister of a government.
35:42He is saying such a big thing.
35:45That's why we have decided.
35:46That we will keep the private sector ahead.
35:48In which they have the ability.
35:50The government does not have that ability.
35:52This is the exact word.
35:53The government does not have that ability.
35:55If the government does not have that ability.
35:57They should not be sitting in the government in the first place.
36:00If you have considered this thing.
36:02Because this is not just about PMLN.
36:04This is not about Musaddiq Malik.
36:06This is about the people of Pakistan.
36:08That after a year of all those big statements.
36:11Pakistan finds itself.
36:13At the worst level in 50 years.
36:15In terms of investment ratio.
36:17So who is to blame for that?
36:19And who is making it suffer because of it?
36:21The people of Pakistan are suffering.
36:23That is our team.
36:24It will come out of our house.
36:25This is such a small thing.
36:26What you said.
36:27What happened yesterday.
36:29The Prime Minister will tell you.
36:31I just want to understand.
36:33That the price of petrol.
36:35Which is calculated.
36:37There is a whole thought process behind it.
36:39There is paperwork.
36:40There are notifications.
36:41It is done through circulation.
36:43So how does this confusion happen?
36:45Is this confusion a one-off?
36:47Is it off the cuff?
36:49Because it is very simple.
36:51I understand that.
36:53Probably the Petroleum Minister.
36:55And some people went to the Prime Minister.
36:57With this great news.
36:59That we can reduce 15-16 rupees.
37:01And do this.
37:03The Prime Minister obviously agreed.
37:05And he has also given a statement.
37:07That this is the result.
37:09The effort of the last three months.
37:11To reduce the government's inflation.
37:13This is the result of that.
37:15The Finance Ministry officials.
37:17Including the Finance Minister.
37:19Were sitting in the queue block.
37:21And wondering what the Prime Minister is doing.
37:23And they had to answer IMF.
37:25And there was a conversation with IMF.
37:27That IMF would have called.
37:29What the hell is happening?
37:31We have told you to save money.
37:33And you are dishing out.
37:35How are you dishing out?
37:37The Finance Minister.
37:39I have spoken to some people.
37:41I have felt that the Finance Minister.
37:43May have intervened.
37:45And said not to do so much.
37:47It will be very difficult for us to defend.
37:49We have to give a budget.
37:51We have to get IMF's approval.
37:53Now we do not have a full stop comma.
37:55And you are going to put such a big six.
37:57So don't do this.
37:59Thank you very much.
38:01Mr. Zubair was with us.
38:03Overall we were talking about Nawaz Sharif Biani.
38:05The speech.
38:07We have taken a comprehensive review.
38:09Of his old speech.
38:11And the speech of 2024.
38:13We will go to the break.
38:15When we come back.
38:17Everyone likes the report.
38:19When they are in the opposition.
38:21When they are in the government.
38:23Then the reaction is very different.
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