• 6 months ago
Lawyers in the Manhattan district attorney’s office, which is prosecuting Donald Trump in his first criminal trial, have long encouraged Michael Cohen to stay away from the press. They haven’t had much success. “The media attention was like catnip to him,” Mark Pomerantz, who once worked in the DA’s office, wrote in his inside account of his time. “We had no means of keeping him away from the cameras.”

It wasn’t only that Cohen, who had shadowed Trump for years, liked being in the limelight. Nor was it just that Cohen, whose life had been upended by Trump, wanted to humiliate his former boss. There was also money at stake–lots of it. In bashing Trump, Cohen has earned about $4.4 million over the last four years, averaging out to $1.1 million annually, or roughly double what his former boss paid him.

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00:00 Here's your Forbes Daily Briefing for Wednesday, May 29.
00:05 Today on Forbes, here's how much Michael Cohen is making off Donald Trump.
00:12 Lawyers in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, which is prosecuting Donald Trump
00:15 in his first criminal trial, have long encouraged Michael Cohen to stay away from the press.
00:21 They haven't had much success.
00:23 Mark Pomerantz, who once worked in the DA's office, wrote, quote, "The media attention
00:28 was like catnip to him.
00:30 We had no means of keeping him away from the cameras."
00:34 It wasn't only that Cohen, who had shadowed Trump for years, liked being in the limelight.
00:39 Nor was it just that Cohen, whose life had been upended by Trump, wanted to humiliate
00:44 his former boss.
00:46 There was also money at stake.
00:48 Lots of it.
00:49 In bashing Trump, Cohen has earned about $4.4 million over the last four years, averaging
00:55 out to $1.1 million annually, or roughly double what his former boss paid him.
01:01 First, he cashed in on books.
01:04 Cohen's Disloyal, a memoir, the true story of the former personal attorney to President
01:09 Donald J. Trump, came out in September 2020, two months before Americans took to the polls.
01:15 It became an immediate No. 1 New York Times bestseller, staying on the list for four weeks.
01:20 The book sold 290,400 print copies, according to Circana Bookscan, an industry data service.
01:28 Cohen testified that it had made him about $2 million in just the first few months after
01:32 it was released, and has gone on to bring in around another $1 million since.
01:38 Two years after publishing his first book, Cohen released Revenge, how Donald Trump weaponized
01:43 the Department of Justice against his critics, which spent one week on the bestseller list
01:48 and sold a more modest 24,400 print copies, according to Circana Bookscan.
01:54 Cohen disputed the sales figures when contacted by Forbes, but declined to answer other questions,
01:59 citing the ongoing trial.
02:01 In court, he testified that the book earned him "around $400,000."
02:06 The most impressive thing about the books?
02:09 How Cohen structured the deals surrounding them.
02:13 Cohen testified in Trump's civil fraud trial last fall that he did not receive an advance
02:17 for either book.
02:18 In 2020, the CEO of Skyhorse Publishing, which released Disloyal, told Publishers Weekly
02:25 that Cohen had a "non-traditional contract."
02:29 As a result, he appears to have earned far more than he would have with a standard book
02:32 deal.
02:35 Around the same time his first book was published, Cohen launched Mea Culpa, a profanity-laced
02:40 podcast in which Cohen interviews various people familiar with Trump, including journalists,
02:45 turning his press contacts into profitable content.
02:49 New episodes post twice a week, although the show has been on hiatus during the trial.
02:54 Cohen testified that Mea Culpa averages around 300,000 downloads a week and has been downloaded
03:00 a total of more than 10 million times.
03:02 It currently ranks among the top 80 most popular political podcasts in the United States on
03:07 Apple Podcasts, according to ChartTable, an analytics service owned by Spotify.
03:13 A second show, Political Beatdown, which Cohen co-hosts, debuted in February 2023.
03:20 It live-streams two episodes a week to YouTube, the audio of which is then pushed out to podcast
03:25 apps.
03:26 In all, Cohen testified that the two podcasts have generated about $1 million for him via
03:31 ads and merchandise.
03:33 One piece of merchandise, a T-shirt, even got a little bit of publicity during the trial,
03:38 when Trump's defense team noted that Cohen is hawking a T-shirt depicting Trump in an
03:42 orange jumpsuit behind bars.
03:46 Even when Cohen isn't making much money, though, he seems happy to get attention.
03:50 At the urging of his 20-something-year-old kids, Cohen joined TikTok around December
03:55 2020.
03:56 Like a true Gen Xer, he was slow to post at first.
03:59 But Cohen eventually got into it, streaming hour-long videos nightly around 10 p.m. for
04:04 anyone willing to shell out $5.99 a month.
04:08 Why?
04:09 He explained at trial, quote, "Build an audience to create a community, to really vent because
04:14 I am having a difficult time sleeping, so I found an outlet."
04:18 He also makes a little money from it.
04:20 According to TikTok, Cohen's so-called "community" consists of 309 subscribers, which would suggest
04:26 he is on pace to earn about $22,000 a year before TikTok takes any cut.
04:33 For full coverage, check out Zach Everson's piece on Forbes.com.
04:38 This is Kieran Meadows from Forbes.
04:41 Thanks for tuning in.
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