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00:00 The most expensive electricity we are producing is from RNG.
00:04 The rate of LNG is around Rs. 24.
00:08 And the cost to the public is Rs. 62.
00:11 So the difference of Rs. 48 is all that the people call surcharges,
00:19 capacity charges, fuel cost, fuel surcharge, television fees.
00:24 All these amounts are coming from there.
00:26 Why is there a difference of Rs. 48? Why are we paying Rs. 48 extra?
00:31 These are taxes. But whose fault is it? Whose fault is it? Whose mismanagement is it?
00:35 It's a simple thing. They didn't even judge what the international prices were.
00:40 When solar could be installed in a country, and you had installed solar,
00:43 you should have gone for solar and worked more on that.
00:47 Whatever we did, we did it on imported fuel.
00:50 All the 10,000 megawatts of CPEC were imported on coal, on RNG.
00:55 It was imported from everyone.
00:57 The price of your local coal is half that of imported coal.
01:01 Now, if you talk about gas, a unit of Rs. 12 is made from gas.
01:05 A unit of Rs. 24 is made from LNG.
01:07 Two power plants in Kerala, one in Sait and one in Kaurangi,
01:10 are just lying there because they don't have gas.
01:13 If they make it from LNG, it will cost Rs. 24.
01:15 If they make it from national gas, it will cost Rs. 12.
01:18 So this is a big difference.
01:20 We have an agreement with NEPRA.
01:25 We have to pay Rs. 2,112 billion for capacity charges.
01:29 And what is the bill for the entire year?
01:31 Rs. 1,000 billion.
01:32 We have to pay double the charges.
01:34 Capacity charges, in simple words, are the charges that we have agreed upon
01:38 and we have to pay the prices.
01:40 That is, the original bill is more than double the prices
01:44 that we have to pay for these agreements.
01:46 Is this correct understanding?
01:47 Yes, we have agreed upon the charges.
01:48 Whether we take electricity from them or not, we have to pay.
01:51 And this happened during the PTI era
01:53 that the dollar exchange rate was capped at Rs. 148.
01:57 If it was at Rs. 290 or Rs. 300 today,
02:00 then the capacity charges that we are paying now,
02:02 we would be paying Rs. 2,000, maybe Rs. 3,000 more.
02:05 And this will increase in the next 5 years.
02:07 Because the capacity charges that we have,
02:09 they must be paying 22% interest.
02:11 Then there will be about 20% inflation in the country.
02:14 This will have a negative impact on people.
02:16 Electricity will be becoming expensive.
02:17 That is, fuel costs will be becoming expensive.
02:19 Agreements will also be becoming expensive.
02:20 So we will have to arrange for about Rs. 4,000 billion next year.
02:24 We will have to increase the electricity rates.
02:26 The IMF has just told us to cap our circular debt at Rs. 2310 billion.
02:33 That will go up by Rs. 160 billion in this year.
02:36 For that, we will have to increase electricity by Rs. 2 billion.
02:39 Whereas, there will be a difference of Rs. 5.
02:41 So, electricity will be expensive between July and August.
02:45 And if you don't do it, then it will be difficult for you to get it through the IMF.
02:50 If you don't pay it, then you will have to pay interest from the banks.
02:54 So, there will be constant losses.
02:57 And then, the agreement, because we will go to the agreement in 2028 and 2032,
03:03 and we will be free of the agreement.
03:05 If people go to solar, then we say that we will charge them Rs. 2,000 per kilowatt.
03:12 Because the big business of Pakistan, the industrialists,
03:16 who use clean units, they are sharing all the burden.
03:20 Poor industrialists, industrialists, and shopkeepers.
03:24 Now, when they go to solar, then you say that the electricity bills of both industrialists and shopkeepers,
03:31 they have a 2.5% withholding tax, income tax.
03:35 How will you get that?
03:37 The income from the FBI will be finished.
03:39 That's why they don't want solar to go to a high level.
03:41 And small ones, 5 megawatts, 10 megawatts, they use.
03:45 So, the electricity agreements, for their sustainability,
03:50 in Pakistan, it doesn't suit the state to go to solar.
03:54 Because how will they return the money?
03:56 They have to earn money from there.
03:58 Is this the right assessment?
03:59 Yes, absolutely.
04:00 The easiest thing is to put everything in the electricity bills.
04:02 Everything, electricity fees, now even the radio fees has started coming in the electricity bills.
04:06 So, whatever is easy, you put all the agreements in it,
04:10 put all the revenues in it, on the electricity bills, and they keep taking from people.
04:14 Tell me, when will our life be spared?
04:16 Because the agreements that we have made, obviously,
04:18 the commitments of the Pakistani state, we have to fulfill them.
04:20 How long are these our commitments?
04:24 And when will our agreements mature?
04:26 If we want to do this in a chaotic way, we can do it.
04:29 The reason is that our electricity is being depleted because of the furnace oil,
04:32 and because of the losses of this gas, and because of the losses of electricity.
04:35 If we talk to the IMF and the UN,
04:38 that our capacity charges are depleting our electricity, increasing our deficit,
04:42 then we should renegotiate them.
04:44 Or we should finish them, which we don't want to use.
04:46 In the world, furnace oil is not being used anywhere.
04:48 It is used in 3-4 countries in Africa.
04:50 So, we should spare their lives. Why should we pay their capacity charges?
04:53 But we have made agreements. How can we do it?
04:56 How long are these agreements? Till 2023?
04:58 Till 2028, till 2022. But they can be renegotiated.
05:01 The reason is that you are the biggest destroyer of the climate in the world.
05:05 Pakistan has lost $30 billion.
05:07 And we should talk to the IMF on a chaotic basis,
05:10 that after our climate change, our losses,
05:12 we should spare their lives.
05:14 And we can talk about this at the international level.
05:16 Thank you very much, Mr. Shoaib Nizami is present with us.
05:19 Why is electricity expensive in Afghanistan?
05:21 What are the hidden taxes? What are the hidden costs?
05:24 Why are you paying extra Rs. 48 per unit of tax?
05:30 We tried to understand this.