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00:00Today, I was listening to the news in which you said that Moulana Fazlur Rehman was in contact with Mohsin Naqvi.
00:07And this was happening at the same time as the Secretariat of Justice was being sealed. What is this matter?
00:14Yes, absolutely. Thank you very much for inviting me to your program.
00:18The most important thing in this was that this story basically starts
00:24that in order to convince Moulana Fazlur Rehman to meet with a very powerful person,
00:32three politicians, keep Mohsin Naqvi aside for a second,
00:38two other big names tried a lot.
00:41Because Moulana's close group, who are very close to him,
00:45repeatedly insisted that Moulana has no contact with any powerful person of any level.
00:54There was a contact with Moulana in Lahore as well.
00:58In that meeting, Moulana Sahib did not listen to him and instead said to Moulana that these are the problems, this and that.
01:06Secondly, let me tell you one more thing. After this vlog of Moulana, I have received a call from Moulana's closest friend.
01:11He said that Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's close contact with him and the matter of staying at his house,
01:18that matter is no longer there.
01:22I said, what do you mean by that? He said that he used to come and stay at his house,
01:27but now it is not at that level.
01:30He said that a close friend of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib told us that
01:35Mohsin Naqvi Sahib insisted that Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman should conduct this Nikah.
01:42Even Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib was offered this from the side of Naqvi Sahib.
01:49The close friends of Naqvi Sahib are telling us that they will send you a helicopter at the end time,
01:53so you come and conduct our Nikah.
01:55Moulana said that I am not a Nikah-fan, I am a party and I am leading it.
02:00But in the era of PDM, the ties between Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib and Mohsin Naqvi Sahib
02:07were so strong that at many places they used to convince Mohsin Naqvi Sahib to conduct the Nikah
02:16and at many places they used to convince Nawaz Sharif Sahib to conduct the Nikah.
02:20Now, where did the deficit of Moulana Sahib start basically?
02:23The biggest objection to Moulana Sahib is that he is involved in the conspiracy to cut him to size.
02:30I can give you an example in court words.
02:34Moulana and two big personalities were present at one place.
02:38At that place, all the followers of Moulana put on a very beautiful show.
02:45So Moulana kept asking for footage of that thing.
02:48The footage was not given to him.
02:49So Moulana got upset and said, see what is happening to me.
02:53Then he thought that Nawaz Sharif is also playing a big role in cutting me to size and bringing me in the circle.
03:01And most importantly, Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's meeting took place on 23rd.
03:05And this 35-minute meeting took place on 23rd.
03:09When the secretary of PTI, G8-4, was being dropped.
03:14And it was a very happy meeting.
03:17Mohsin Naqvi was very fresh and pleasant in this.
03:20And he sat with Moulana Sahib for 35 minutes.
03:23Now how he came, how he went, I will not go into this debate.
03:26The security police came with him, who came with whom, who came back with whom.
03:31Without going into this debate, let me just tell you this much.
03:33That the close people of Moulana think that it was the same chain of events.
03:39That they want to meet my most important power.
03:42And I don't want to believe it.
03:44It is so interesting.
03:45You have told us the whole background.
03:48What kind of relations were there and what kind of meetings were there.
03:51Mr. Mahmood, are you surprised that on this occasion,
03:55where Moulana Sahib very openly, very clearly, showed his allegiance to Tariq-e-Insaf.
04:01He says that our specifics were not prepared.
04:04Meanwhile, Mr. Rana Sinalwala also says that we also have contacts.
04:07We keep meeting.
04:09And when the time comes, we will disclose all this.
04:12So, what is the possibility that Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib,
04:15who is talking about mistrust,
04:17this bridge with the government of Ghunain, with the institutions, with Nawaz Sharif Sahib.
04:23Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman, politically,
04:26first, JUI is one of those parties that ruled in the 70s,
04:31in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, at that time it was Ubaid-e-Sharif.
04:34And even after that, JUI has been in power twice.
04:40The People's Party has also been in power.
04:42And then from the platform of Mujtahid-e-Majlis-e-Amal.
04:45This means that there is a lot of transition in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
04:50So, in this regard, Moulana's real political conflict is with PTI.
04:57But the complaint they have at the moment,
05:00on the one hand, of the establishment,
05:02that they are not giving them that protection, that support,
05:05for which they are competing.
05:07On the other hand, they are getting upset with PMLN,
05:10especially with Nawaz Sharif Sahib.
05:13Because somewhere or the other,
05:15they think that Nawaz Sharif Sahib has made a political compromise
05:20and has betrayed them.
05:22And probably, in their mind,
05:24now the administration will be there, whatever will be in their mind.
05:27But they feel that in comparison to Zardari Sahib,
05:30their complaint against Nawaz Sharif becomes more.
05:33Because when Nawaz Sharif and Nawaz Sharif People's Party left PDM,
05:38it was Moulana who led PDM.

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