Aon Abbas Buppi's response Rana Tanveer's statement regarding Nawaz Sharif

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00:00 Rana Tanvir Sahib, I will start with you.

00:02 Please tell us, I am unable to understand that you have your own governments in Wafaaq and Punjab.

00:08 When you play the victim card and talk about equality, who are you asking for?

00:13 Who has stopped you?

00:14 Make a commission, start an investigation, file an FIR.

00:19 It is true, but the way things have been going on, the way things have been discussed, the way things have been over a period,

00:31 and you know that when these things happen, then we should talk about it.

00:39 Whatever you say, it goes out, it is your government, you go ahead in that, so we will see that too.

00:49 But I think Mian Sahib did a very good job, he told the whole community what the facts were and what happened at that time.

00:54 What happened in 2017, what were the policies of 2014, how were they done, who were behind it,

01:00 and he has mentioned all that.

01:02 We should talk about it so that things get better, straightened up and better.

01:09 I don't think there is any difference in this.

01:11 Instead of saying that if this has been discussed, then why didn't you do this, or if this has happened, then do this.

01:16 So I think you should appreciate whatever has been discussed.

01:19 Rana Sahib, since your 16-month government came, not only have statements been changed, but the truth has also been presented selectively.

01:25 On the question of General Bajwa, Mariam Nawaz said, "Next question please."

01:30 After that, Nawaz Sharif's speech in Gujranwala, all the mandir jat have been changed,

01:35 and the focus of the cannons is only on the judiciary.

01:37 It is not a problem to talk about it, 100% it should be talked about, but it should also be acted on, it should also be corrected.

01:41 But it is not possible that you should focus on the role of the judiciary,

01:45 and not on the other prominent roles that you have mentioned yourself,

01:49 because your government is fragile, you are standing on someone's back, and then the problem will arise.

01:55 What is the matter? The problem is with the selective truth.

01:58 I am not saying this, I am telling you that,

02:01 I have also spoken about Zero Islam, who is behind all the work that is being done.

02:07 No, you didn't mention his name.

02:09 No, he has mentioned my name, it doesn't matter.

02:11 But the thing that I am saying, the things that the judges are saying, or the characters of the judiciary,

02:18 the decisions that have been taken by the judges,

02:22 tell me, whatever is behind, whether it is the ones who are shaking the strings, or the ones who are shouting,

02:30 the characters that are there, it is not a big deal,

02:34 if someone is firing, it will be in the FIR, who said what, what happened, what didn't happen.

02:39 The one who gave him ammunition, that will not be mentioned.

02:41 If that is not mentioned, then it will not be like that.

02:44 Will your government expect that you will send references, or work on it, or make a commission?

02:50 No, listen to me, these pawns that are tied, the characters that are there,

02:56 if they don't work, then I think things will be straightened.

02:59 Like some judges have written a letter, 6 judges,

03:03 instead of writing a letter, you should take action.

03:06 You have the power, the constitution gives you the power,

03:10 that if someone approaches you for such a work, puts pressure on you, or even recommends you,

03:16 then I think if I call any judge, then I will get a notice of contempt tomorrow.

03:22 But this is a very unlawful, and illegal thing that I am doing.

03:27 So, these characters that are there, the ones who are doing the work,

03:31 why would they talk about it?

03:33 You cannot say that, what did ABC say, what happened, who was it, how did it happen?

03:39 That goes away, right?

03:41 Inquire, it was not there, it was there.

03:43 Now, these people were there, who played the whole game in 2014 or 2017.

03:49 Which is still being played, so what is the point?

03:53 Sir, tell me, will your government expect that you will take action against them, or work on it?

03:58 But it should be done.

04:00 But there are many challenges, many issues, many crises,

04:05 very deep crises, economic crises, governance crises,

04:10 so I think it is a political instability.

04:14 But if I talk, then I will come back to the court.

04:18 If there is a problem, then the Justice Maneer,

04:24 the long time back, this work has started from that time.

04:31 Sir, if you allow me, the problem is that you talk about accountability of judges,

04:36 it does not stop there, accountability should be across the board.

04:39 Half of the truth is not correct.

04:41 But I will come to the second point, Senator Buppi,

04:43 Mian sir said that Imran Khan stabbed him in the back,

04:46 he conspired in London, and many journalists are coming to the public,

04:49 who are talking about the characters of that time,

04:52 but Mohsin Beg sir, Major Aamir, Luqman sir himself, General Syed's call,

04:56 all these things are being told by Luqman sir himself, and other people.

05:00 So, one London plan, Mian sir's one London plan is mentioned by Khan sir,

05:03 but he talks about stabbing, so what is your opinion on this matter?

05:07 Because today you are imagining yourselves at the receiving end,

05:10 should there be an investigation across the board?

05:13 Auzubillah, Shatana ji, Bismillah, let us look at this on a wider canvas.

05:17 If Mian sir is afraid of all those interventions,

05:20 which were done from the year 1990 to 2018,

05:23 is he ready to accept that there were interventions in 2028 also?

05:26 I mean, not only that, I am criticizing the things that suit me,

05:29 so in 2022, the regime that changed, we will not do it on that also.

05:32 So, the issue is that, with the unknown league, there is a very big psychological problem.

05:35 First they pressurize, and then, wherever they want, they do assassination also.

05:39 Now, the thing that Adliya was talking about, about Muzayi Naqvi,

05:41 that was not for Muzayi Naqvi, it was by and large a message for every person in the judiciary,

05:45 that if you all take a stance that does not suit me,

05:48 then the way I exposed Saqib Nisar, I made Atta Baniyar dirty,

05:52 I made Justice Khosla dirty, I will not spare you also.

05:55 You see, the statement of Dalal Chaudhary about Justice Babas Hattar,

05:59 what was it all about?

06:00 Today, Justice Attar has made a statement about Justice Ghani,

06:03 that the poet who was missing,

06:05 this is a bad omen of the unknown league, that people will automatically see the judiciary.

06:08 Sir, but the institutions...

06:09 One thing, one thing, I am making it clear,

06:11 you see, you see this whole narrative, it was all about narrative.

06:15 Mian Sahib was saying that,

06:16 the Imran Khan or PTI, who has taken the entire narrative of anti-establishment,

06:20 and has taken it to himself, give me a little share of that also.

06:23 Nawaz Sharif is not the president of the non-league, I am the president.

06:25 Maryam has already carried this anti-establishment narrative.

06:28 So he just wanted to convey that,

06:30 this is the character of the army,

06:32 they supported Imran Khan.

06:34 Is he ready to go that far to see what is happening at this time?

06:37 He will not. It is just purely bringing a narrative.

06:40 And as Mr. Radha said, the crisis is so big,

06:42 that it is not the part of this government to combat them,

06:45 that they are not able to resolve it.

06:46 It is very easy to make a narrative that anti-establishment...

06:49 But Mr. Bhatti, allow me,

06:50 we see the change of narratives with every Jamaat,

06:53 with the passing of time.

06:54 Every Jamaat has gone through this change,

06:56 nothing of the sort.

06:57 Take your example, from the same page,

06:59 from the biggest democrat,

07:00 and see what you are saying today.

07:02 I mean, you used to say that,

07:03 talking against the establishment is treachery,

07:05 what are your leaders doing today,

07:06 what are you all doing?

07:07 The question is,

07:08 if today Mian Sahib is complaining to the public,

07:10 and the judiciary,

07:11 then this complaint is being made by Imran Khan also,

07:14 but when will you all come to the same page?

07:16 And what...

07:17 I have mocked many talk shows,

07:20 that it was our first time,

07:21 we had not come to the government four times before,

07:24 the government of Moonlea or Rana sir,

07:25 they are taking their turn for the fourth time.

07:27 Have they learned the lesson?

07:28 We learned the hard way.

07:29 Our first time,

07:30 and I have said it publicly,

07:32 there is always a cost for one page.

07:34 This one page policy,

07:35 its opportunity cost is very high.

07:37 We may have paid it for the first time,

07:39 but this is the fourth time they are going for a one page policy.

07:42 Are they willing to accept it?

07:43 That this will not work for Pakistan,

07:45 and this whole society?

07:46 We are ready to learn our lesson and move forward.

07:49 But they are not.

07:50 Because when you come to the government,

07:51 you enjoy it.

07:52 We enjoyed it once,

07:53 we paid the cost.

07:54 They are enjoying it for the fourth time,

07:55 they haven't learned it.

07:56 This is how it's going to be like.

07:57 But this anti-establishment narrative that Mian Sahib is building,

08:00 at the end he doesn't really believe it.

08:02 They go to confrontations,

08:03 they will go.

08:04 You have mentioned the Gujranwala issue.

08:05 So who are they doing it for?

08:06 They are not doing it.

08:07 Where are they doing it?

08:08 Their government,

08:09 you see it every day,

08:10 that it is getting into the defense of institutions.

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