Bani PTI Ki Rihai - Kashif Abbasi and Mohammad Malick's Reaction - video Dailymotion

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00:00 Don't you feel there is a direct correlation between this resistance and Khan's presence?

00:05 I think economy is going to be a very key factor.

00:08 What is the reason for people's anger today?

00:09 Even if the IMF program is signed, it will be tough.

00:14 You can talk about the buildup of reserves, Saudi Arabia has come, FCA has become very actionable.

00:19 But the fact remains that the common man will be frustrated and his frustration will be intact.

00:23 You must remember when Khan came, he was constantly being called a fool.

00:31 There is no government here, every day fake mandates, fake mandates, fake mandates, fake mandates.

00:36 Do you think that this is...

00:37 Khan had an advantage, he got Covid after a year.

00:40 After that, he became a political thug.

00:42 But I think the most critical thing to see in the next few months is that

00:47 how long can Imran Khan be kept in jail or when will he come out of jail.

00:51 Because you have seen that the court has started to flex its muscles.

00:56 You have seen that the High Court is writing letters.

00:58 Judges are not the same as they used to be.

01:02 This will be the biggest turning point for me.

01:05 If Imran Khan comes out, will he come under a deal or without a deal?

01:09 And there will be a big difference in both scenarios.

01:12 If he comes out...

01:13 What will happen later?

01:14 That will be a big turning point in my opinion.

01:17 Imran, what do you think?

01:21 The people who are standing in the assembly and saying that they are ready to forgive everything.

01:27 Why do you think they are saying that?

01:29 I think mistrust...

01:31 At the end of the day, personalities matter.

01:36 Politics is very personal.

01:37 And what do the personalities tell you right now?

01:39 Who are the three most powerful people in Pakistan right now?

01:43 Imran Khan, Army Chief and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

01:48 All three have a personal history.

01:51 All three have a serious mistrust.

01:55 So it is not that simple.

01:58 And there is always an arbiter for a deal.

02:00 There are guarantors.

02:02 Neither domestic guarantors nor international guarantors.

02:06 So a deal doesn't happen in a way that two people come and sit one day and say that it is final.

02:12 When Mr. Mian went to make a deal, the Saudis had underwritten everything.

02:18 Even after that, Mr. Mian had deviated from his deal.

02:21 Exile deal.

02:23 Then he came and said that this paper was signed.

02:26 Then things went in reverse.

02:28 So where everything happens, there are also big deals.

02:32 There is so much mistrust here.

02:34 I didn't say that they will make a deal.

02:38 I just said that I am telling you this.

02:40 I don't see the possibility.

02:42 I don't think there will be a deal.

02:44 And let me tell you one more thing.

02:46 If a deal is offered at any time,

02:48 if there is a discussion today, then it will be in some other environment.

02:51 But if a deal is offered in a situation of compulsion,

02:54 and that weakness is seen, then no one will take the deal at that time.

02:57 When will the establishment talk to Imran Khan?

03:00 When he will be weak.

03:02 When they will feel that they cannot keep Imran Khan any more inside.

03:05 At that time, there will be compulsion.

03:07 And knowing Imran Khan, he will say that I don't want to talk to him.

03:11 I have built a scenario that if Imran Khan comes out,

03:16 because of the court's decision,

03:18 he can definitely be a turning point.

03:23 If he comes out without a deal.

03:25 Tell me something, you have covered so much of literature.

03:27 Have you ever seen such an environment?

03:30 Where you are seeing the court's own.

03:33 It's very different.

03:34 What used to happen is that at the domestic level,

03:37 either the army would become the leader or the Supreme Court.

03:42 And then some things.

03:44 Now all the parties are in conflict.

03:47 Now the three strong institutions are unique in one way.

03:51 One is that all the three institutions are parties to the conflict.

03:54 Second, all the heads have their own stakes.

03:58 Direct stakes are involved.

03:59 How long do you see this continuing the way it is?

04:02 To be very honest, I think that in the end,

04:06 whenever there will be a situation like this,

04:08 I don't see this mutual coexistence at any level.

04:11 Kashif, you don't see this mutual coexistence?

04:14 It's difficult.

04:16 Again, I think that the three power centers are there.

04:21 But look, the situation now,

04:24 I look back and I see such situations less in Pakistan.

04:28 Social media is added to it, which creates a lot of pressure.

04:33 Because of that, the three power centers are going to engage with each other.

04:39 The equation is very...

04:42 Adli, you have exerted yourself.

04:44 You can see what the high courts are doing again and again.

04:47 You can see the Supreme Court.

04:48 We were talking about this today.

04:49 Mr. Atal Minal, no, no, this cannot happen.

04:51 Earlier, it was that the way a person used to go...

04:53 Can this continue as is?

04:54 It will continue for some time, but not for long.

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