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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi (Former PM)
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Hasnaat Malik (Journalist)
" Kisanon Se Wada Kya Hai To Is Ko Pora Karen." Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Ki Ahem Guftagu
"Dialogue Always Between Political Forces" | Ali Muhammad Khan's Big Statement
" Istehkam-e-Pakistan Party, Pervez Khattak Ki Jamaat NAB Ne Banai Hai. ." Shahid Khaqan Abbasi
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi (Former PM)
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Hasnaat Malik (Journalist)
" Kisanon Se Wada Kya Hai To Is Ko Pora Karen." Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Ki Ahem Guftagu
"Dialogue Always Between Political Forces" | Ali Muhammad Khan's Big Statement
" Istehkam-e-Pakistan Party, Pervez Khattak Ki Jamaat NAB Ne Banai Hai. ." Shahid Khaqan Abbasi
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00:00In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, I am Aneeka Nisar.
00:16On one hand, Pakistan is now going to the field of science to make its own iron.
00:22It is shining on the moon.
00:24Today, Pakistan's first lunar mission has been launched in the name of iCube.
00:30That mission will basically send photos and images to Pakistan from the moon.
00:35On the one hand, we are going to the field of science to make our own iron.
00:39On the other hand, let's come to the earth's dust.
00:41Unfortunately, as usual, the political temperature of Pakistan is increasing.
00:47It seems that these matters are becoming worse.
00:51Because there are many more challenges for the government.
00:53And Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is in a full-scale mode at this time.
00:56On the one hand, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has a desire to talk to the establishment.
01:00On the other hand, CMKPK's aggressive attitude and aggressive speech,
01:04along with taking the names of subjects and heads of institutions in international newspapers,
01:11it seems that the matters are going towards a keratin stick.
01:14It seems that either there is no clarity or the answer is not being received from the other side.
01:18Sometimes there is strictness, sometimes there is softness.
01:20What is the reason for this? This question has begun to arise.
01:23Today, Barrister Gohar has made it very clear after meeting Imran Khan,
01:28that there will be no way to talk to those people who stole the mandate.
01:34Listen.
01:35Imran Khan also told us about the negotiations today.
01:38We will talk to everyone except those who stole our mandate.
01:43God willing.
01:44We did not close the door.
01:46Imran Khan said that he has been saying for 18 months that we are open to dialogue and we are open to dialogue.
01:51I am telling you this as of today.
01:53We have not received any message.
01:55We have not given any message to anyone.
01:57We have not received any message for dialogue.
02:00There is no dialogue as we speak.
02:02If there is, when there is, on which terms there is, we will not hide anything from you.
02:06We will tell you.
02:08Explaining this, Zain Qureshi said yesterday that he is ready to talk to anyone except the three communities.
02:13So, apart from the three communities, only the establishment is left, about which Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is saying again and again
02:18that we want to have a dialogue.
02:20On which terms do we want to have a dialogue?
02:22There is no deal.
02:23There is only a dialogue.
02:24Ali Muhammad Khan has made it very clear today.
02:26But, anyway, there is a desire to have a dialogue.
02:29But, on the other hand, so far, we have not received any kind of response.
02:33On the third hand, once again, Ali Amin Gandapur Sahib, CMKP, is being seen to be acting in an aggressive manner.
02:41Once again, he has warned the government to give the rights of the KPK.
02:46Listen.
02:48We should also get the rights of our province.
02:50So, for that, I give a clear message through your platform that I will get this right.
02:55So, I am giving this message to the federal government that you should not take it lightly.
02:59You have no idea who you are dealing with right now.
03:03I will take this from you and apply it on the people of my province.
03:06And if you do not give this, then you will not sit peacefully.
03:09You cannot rule with me peacefully.
03:11For this, when I leave, I will leave with the entire people.
03:14And if you do not give this right, then I will have to make this sacrifice for my future generation.
03:21And I am ready for it.
03:23Now, on the one hand, there is a political upheaval.
03:25On the other hand, another challenge has come up for the government.
03:28Sir, as soon as I put my hand up, I started shivering.
03:30There is also an issue of farmers.
03:32Despite promising the farmers that they will buy wheat from them for Rs. 2900 a month, this matter has not been resolved yet.
03:39And the farmers are still protesting.
03:42Once again, a call has been made to the farmers in reference to the protest.
03:46At this time, a farmer has been forced to sell wheat for Rs. 2800 a month to Rs. 3200 a month in the market.
03:54Which this time, despite giving a bumper crop of wheat, is still affected by imported wheat.
04:00Now, he is forced to sell his wheat through the middleman in the market.
04:07Azma Bukhari Sahiba, you can see politics in this matter as well.
04:12A hit is currently happening in Punjab.
04:15The Minister has made a committee on this, which is doing a probe.
04:19As soon as this probe is completed, its report will be shared with you.
04:22Let the politicians do politics.
04:24Farmers have no work to do politics.
04:26Non-based associations have no work to do politics.
04:28Our General Secretary is an activist of PTI.
04:32He is trying to use the farmers.
04:35We will not let that happen.
04:37On the other hand, the farmers have warned the government that if our matters are not resolved,
04:42if the compulsion is not seen and the issues are not solved,
04:45then it will be very difficult to cultivate wheat next year.
04:51And Pakistan is already a country that provides a lot of edibles, including oil and lentils.
04:57Now, because of the provision of wheat, the wheat of the house is in trouble.
05:02Khalid Hussain Bhat, who is the head of the Farmer's Union, what did he say?
05:06And what has he warned the government?
05:08Listen.
05:09If the Punjab government does not buy wheat from us this week,
05:14we will pick up tractors and wheat along with our children,
05:18which will be our roads near the village, which will be our GT's road,
05:21which will be the main highways, which will be the railway tracks,
05:24we will come and sit on it and we will not go back until our wheat is not bought.
05:30The Punjab government does not apologize for the atrocities they have done to us.
05:34The ECC meeting that was held in October 2023,
05:40the approval that was made in it and before that in September,
05:43now the government is also running an issue on it.
05:46Mr. Fawazi v.s. the former caretaker prime minister, Anwar ul Haq Qaqar,
05:51that news of him coming face to face is also being told,
05:54that there was a dispute in a Niji hotel and there was a very good dispute.
05:58We will certainly talk about this.
06:01But along with that, the issue of NAB is also present in its place.
06:05Before talking, I would have shown you this shot,
06:09but since this issue is also related to our guest,
06:12I would like to introduce my guest, Shahid Khan Abbas,
06:15who is present with us, the former prime minister of Pakistan.
06:18Mr. Abbas, you are also the director of NAB.
06:21And regarding NAB, this government, the sitting government,
06:24had said in the manifesto that we will end this.
06:28This is a shot of Irfan Siddiqui, I will play it and then I will come to you.
06:31Listen.
06:32We are seriously preparing our manifesto and discussing this issue.
06:38At the level of leadership, we should end NAB.
06:43And in its place, the institutions should be strengthened
06:46and if there is a need for a new institution, then the parliament should consider it.
06:50But there is no need for NAB because in its 20-25 years,
06:54NAB has not been able to prove a single case in the Supreme Court.
06:58Shahid Khan Abbas, NAB has not been able to prove a single case in its 20-25 years.
07:04So what is NAB doing?
07:06NAB is political engineering.
07:08The government had said that we will end this.
07:10This is a part of our manifesto.
07:12The government says a lot but does not do anything.
07:16And until NAB is formed, your government will not work.
07:18The matter is very simple.
07:20So when it was said earlier that we are forming a part of the manifesto,
07:23now NAB is forming a part of it.
07:24What other things have been fulfilled in the manifesto that NAB will do?
07:27In this, all the governments are formed, all the parties are formed.
07:30They come to the parliament and forget.
07:32Shahid Khan Abbas, it has been three months practically for this government.
07:36And in these three months, you are saying that the government
07:39should not pick anything from the manifesto and take it towards actual implementation.
07:43So from now itself you are saying that NAB is a failed government?
07:45No, this is the manifesto of all the parties.
07:48If you ask for the manifesto of all the three major parties, there is only one.
07:51All three have remained in power but have not done any work.
07:55That manifesto is only in the elections.
07:58This time in the elections, the manifesto came five days before the elections.
08:01This is your seriousness about the manifesto.
08:06So it is not about the manifesto.
08:08You have come to power.
08:10Do the work so that the country can move forward.
08:13If NAB is there, the country will not move.
08:15I am a clear example in front of you.
08:18I have been saying from the first day that if you want to run the country, finish it.
08:22I have said again and again, let our case remain.
08:25The rest, finish this oppression that is happening.
08:28For six years, I have not cared about NAB.
08:34I have no fear of NAB.
08:37This is a corrupt institution.
08:40Its work is only to break the politicians.
08:44Who made the Peace Party Parliamentarians?
08:48Who made BAP?
08:50Who made CAF League?
08:52Who made Mr. Pradeep Khanna's Jamaat?
08:56Who made your Istiqam Pakistan?
09:00NAB.
09:01This is made by NAB.
09:03NAB makes false cases.
09:05And the politicians are forced.
09:08But the politicians are very happy and play a role in it.
09:12I remember that in the PTI government, people had a problem.
09:16And now in this government, PTI.
09:18There was no problem.
09:19There, the minister used to take credit.
09:23I took someone's name and did it.
09:26He said, I am doing it.
09:28NAB is a tool.
09:30But you see, six years have passed.
09:37No prosecution has been done.
09:39In my case, there was only one purpose, to arrest me.
09:43Who was the accused?
09:45Those people in Pakistan who have made the most investment in the history of Pakistan.
09:51They will make a co-accused in this.
09:54For six years, they have been accused in courts.
09:57Today you say that we will make SIFC.
10:02Who will come in SIFC?
10:04Have you seen the report of Dubai?
10:06Last year, the people who invested in Dubai,
10:10Pakistan was on the 6th number.
10:12They were Pakistani.
10:13This time they are on the 3rd number.
10:15The most Indians are there.
10:17The second is United Kingdom.
10:19The third is Pakistani.
10:20More than the Russians, more than the UAE people,
10:23Pakistani investment is happening in Dubai.
10:25Whether you keep NAB or the country, the decision is yours.
10:29So what should the government do?
10:31Because they have committed.
10:33They have already suffered many cases of NAB.
10:35So all political parties understand that NAB is being used for political engineering.
10:39Then what is it that is stopping all political parties from coming into power?
10:43What is the fun of political victimization?
10:45Tell me, what is the obstacle?
10:47I have booked 38 inquiry and investigation NAB.
10:51And told them to write and answer, write and ask questions, write and answer.
10:55They asked every question of the world in reverse.
10:58Did not ask a single question.
11:00Which was?
11:01Have you ever paid tax or not?
11:03If you want to catch corruption, you will be caught by tax.
11:07Right.
11:08It is a simple thing.
11:10If you are sincere in catching corruption,
11:13you use tax laws.
11:16Everyone sees what his expenses are.
11:19Ask him where the money comes from.
11:22Where did the money come from that you are spending?
11:25If the money has come, then how much tax has been paid?
11:29You believe that the people will be empty or the courts will be empty?
11:33The people will be empty, the courts will be empty.
11:35No one pays tax.
11:36Yes, no one pays tax in this country.
11:38Only those helpless people pay, whose source is cut.
11:41Like us.
11:42Who have no choice.
11:44And if you have a choice, you will not pay tax.
11:47No, no, we will not pay tax.
11:49But I do not understand this thing that
11:52Why do you talk about ending NAB, when there is no intention?
11:57The people are being fooled or they think they are fools.
12:00What is going on there?
12:02I will give you an example.
12:04We put a chairman NAB.
12:09Injustice Javed Iqbal is his name.
12:12He has nothing to do with justice.
12:15That man made false cases on every person.
12:19The president of the country also made a case.
12:22The country is talking about today.
12:24The Prime Minister made false cases on him.
12:26The Deputy Prime Minister made false cases on him.
12:29The Chairman of the Senate made false cases on him today.
12:32Half of the cabinet made false cases on him today.
12:35Mehra 50, 60 MPA senators made false cases on him.
12:39Are you sure they are all false?
12:41If not, then they should be arrested.
12:43They should be prosecuted.
12:456 years have passed.
12:46Why don't they prosecute?
12:48118 witnesses were made against me.
12:5111 came to court.
12:53One witness came in 5 months.
12:58This is his condition.
13:01One person did not say that we have done something wrong.
13:04Three said that NAB has coerced us,
13:07Threatened us with jail and made us witnesses.
13:10The man who made all these cases,
13:13He is still the head of the inquiry commission of the missing person.
13:17The President of the country,
13:20The Deputy Prime Minister,
13:22The Chairman of the Senate,
13:23The Cabinet,
13:24They can't remove him from office.
13:26They can't remove him or don't want to remove him.
13:29They can't remove him.
13:30Remove him.
13:32If they can't remove him, give him a medal.
13:35We have distributed 365 medals.
13:38The medal should have been given to Hussain Dawood.
13:41Who invested in the country and solved the energy crisis.
13:44With his own money.
13:45Interesting.
13:46The medal should have been given to Sheikh Imran,
13:48Who was a co-accused with us.
13:50He has spent a year in jail.
13:52He made a terminal.
13:54He is still used as a case study in the world.
13:57Interesting perspective.
13:59The medal should have been given to these people.
14:01You are talking about investment.
14:03We should be investing heavily in farmers.
14:07Farmers are protesting against the Punjab government.
14:10They are protesting against the Punjab government.
14:12They are protesting against the Punjab government.
14:13The Prime Minister has formed a committee to solve the issue.
14:17Is the issue so serious?
14:19A farmer gives you a bumper crop of wheat.
14:22Which is a source of livelihood for the entire nation.
14:26You import it.
14:28The PMLN government, the caretaker government,
14:31Says that it is your fault.
14:33Mr. Kankar.
14:34This is very strange.
14:36Without knowing the issue,
14:40Without understanding the issue,
14:42We start putting allegations.
14:44The issue is very simple.
14:46The ECC of the cabinet,
14:49Has allowed that,
14:51Whether something will be imported or not in the country.
14:54Which the government has to import.
14:56So find out,
14:58When did the ECC decide to import in the country?
15:03I have the notification of the ECC.
15:07It was on 20th October 2023.
15:10But before that, it was already imported in September.
15:13Approximately 10 lakh tonnes.
15:14I will say it again.
15:16Look at the record.
15:17Are you talking about July?
15:19Yes.
15:20Something happened in July.
15:21Decisions were made after that.
15:22It happened in July too.
15:23In July 2023,
15:26An allocation has been made.
15:28For PASCO, Wheat Amongst the Recipients.
15:30There is no mention of import.
15:32Okay.
15:33So the one who has decided to import,
15:35He has to answer this.
15:37Caretaker?
15:39Whoever has decided to import.
15:40Whether it is a caretaker or undertaker,
15:42I don't know what it is.
15:43Ask them,
15:44On what basis did you decide?
15:46A summary comes to the ECC.
15:48The Ministry of Food Security brings it.
15:50Ask for that summary.
15:52On what basis did they ask for wheat?
15:55And the decision was made by the ECC.
15:58And then the Cabinet approved it.
16:00Look at it from there.
16:02There can be a mistake in this.
16:05We are humans.
16:06Mistakes happen.
16:07In your opinion,
16:08Wheat will be less.
16:10Your estimates are less.
16:11You say,
16:12Let's cover it.
16:13Let's import a little.
16:14What should we do now, Mr. Abbas?
16:16No, let's talk now.
16:17So you understood this.
16:19Don't abuse others.
16:20Don't put allegations.
16:22The situation,
16:23The reality is known.
16:24Malwa is actually tolerating the PMLN government.
16:27They are saying that they are tolerating it.
16:29There is no malwa on them.
16:31The matter is over.
16:32Find out why it has been imported.
16:34If it is wrong,
16:35Punish it.
16:36If it is a genuine mistake,
16:38It is not a mistake,
16:39We are all humans.
16:40It has happened in the past too.
16:41So do it.
16:42Now what is the problem?
16:44The problem is that
16:46The government has promised the farmer
16:51That you grow wheat.
16:53We will buy that wheat
16:55For Rs. 4900.
16:57Five days ago,
16:59The Punjab government published an ad in the newspaper.
17:01Half a page.
17:02Spending crores of rupees,
17:04They published an ad saying that
17:06We will give Rs. 4900 to the farmer.
17:08You have promised.
17:10The government has promised.
17:12Every government has promised
17:14That we will give Rs. 4900.
17:16Fulfill the promise.
17:17That's all.
17:18But you are saying that
17:20This can also be a mistake.
17:22It was imported.
17:24It can be a mistake.
17:25But the problem is that
17:26You have to see who was sitting there.
17:28There is a person who is
17:30Captain retired Mohammad Mehmood.
17:32He was in the Nandipur Power Project
17:34In Garbar.
17:36When he was in 2015,
17:38He was removed from the position of MD.
17:40Then he came and
17:42The Rawalpindi Ring Road scandal
17:44He was also in it.
17:46So this is a mistake.
17:48Forget it.
17:49You find out.
17:50They have made a summary.
17:52The secretary has made a summary.
17:54The minister has approved it.
17:56And then it comes to the ECC.
17:58There is a debate in the ECC.
18:00The minister and the secretary
18:02Defend it.
18:04We have brought this summary.
18:06These are the reasons.
18:08We think that it should be imported.
18:10The ministers are sitting in the ECC.
18:12They discuss it.
18:14And the chairman,
18:16She is a very sensible woman.
18:18So
18:20Look at this summary.
18:22Why was it decided?
18:24There is no debate in this.
18:26And the government must solve this.
18:28It may be a mistake.
18:30It is possible.
18:32Estimates
18:34Are wrong.
18:36More wheat is produced than
18:38Your expectations.
18:40What will the farmer do?
18:42The wheat you have
18:44Estimates
18:46You will have wheat.
18:48This is a reality.
18:50The matter now
18:52It has nothing to do with import.
18:54Punjab government
18:56Sindh government
18:58The farmers have been promised.
19:00How much wheat you will grow
19:02We will buy at Rs. 4900
19:04And they fulfill the promise.
19:06If you do not have storage
19:08Tell him to store it.
19:10Or make storage
19:12You cannot destroy the farmer.
19:14So remember this, your actions of not buying will destroy the farmer, if someone does not understand this, I am surprised that they do not understand such a simple thing.
19:24Okay, Mr. Abbas, let's move on to another topic.
19:27We have to talk, not to the religious communities, not to those who steal the mandate, or those who have stolen our mandate, we have to talk to everyone else.
19:35In other words, the PTI is still saying that we have to talk to the army.
19:39On the other hand, Sarban Ahan's name is also taken, CMKPK has a certain attitude, and it is repeatedly told in a certain way that there is a problem here and there.
19:52Now you tell me, do you want to talk to the PTI or not?
19:57None of them want to talk, all of them are not sincere in this matter.
20:02If there was sincerity, then whatever has happened, let's put it aside, let's talk about the country today.
20:08The PTI has no right to say that we will not talk to the politicians, we will go and talk to the army, we will talk to the judges, we will talk to someone else.
20:17You are destroying your own political system, understand this.
20:24So, today the need is that, with sincerity, by putting the issues of this country in front of you, sit at a table, solve the problems, talk in front of the people.
20:38There should be an establishment there, there should be a judge there.
20:41All of them are participating in the governance of the country today.
20:44So, today you have to sit down and decide the path ahead.
20:49Thank you very much for joining me in the program.
20:51We will go to the break and continue after the break.
20:57Welcome back after the break.
20:58Ali Muhammad Khan sahab is with us.
20:59Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
21:01Ali sahab, on one hand, I told the audience at the beginning of the program that we do not want to talk to the people who have stolen the mandates.
21:10Zain Gureshi sahab had already said yesterday that we do not want to talk to three parties.
21:14You have said that you are ready to talk for Pakistan.
21:18There is a difference between a deal and talking.
21:20Tell us what do you want?
21:22Who do you want to talk to?
21:23Why do you want to talk to them?
21:25In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
21:27Allahumma salli wa sallim wa barik ala Sayyidina Muhammadun Rasulullah, Khataman Nabiyeen, Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
21:35We should talk to everyone.
21:37Of course, we talk to civil forces, civilians, political parties.
21:46But if there is something to improve the country's affairs from the establishment, you cannot call it a negotiation.
21:53Because we do not want a deal, we do not want a deal.
21:56We want justice, we want Pakistan.
21:59Imran Khan sahab had said that we are ready to talk to everyone.
22:04I think if we need more clarity on this, we will go to Khan sahab and bring more.
22:09But we talk to those with whom you have a problem.
22:13And our problem is with the Noon League.
22:16Because the Noon League has received a mandate, which was not theirs.
22:21Under Form 47, they have received that mandate.
22:25People's Party has jumped in the middle.
22:27They could not bear the weight of 16 months.
22:30So now they have given up Form 47.
22:32But anyway, I want to say that there should be negotiations.
22:36But there should be clear parameters.
22:38We do not want to be in any doubt.
22:40Imran Khan's release and return of mandate.
22:43If the government has a roadmap on this, then let's sit down.
22:46Otherwise, the government should not harm the company of the same government.
22:53I am giving the same example.
22:55You have said one thing.
22:56After that, I am in a dilemma.
22:58Barrister Gauhar has said that we do not want to talk to those who have stolen our mandate.
23:01Zain Qureshi, I have said this before.
23:03Zain Qureshi has said that we do not want to talk to three parties.
23:05Now you are saying that we talk to those who have a problem.
23:08Our problem is with the Noon League.
23:09You want to talk to the Noon League.
23:11And in what terms do you want to do it?
23:14Look, I will tell you.
23:17Founding chairman is Imran Khan.
23:19He has to decide.
23:21He is the supreme leader.
23:22He is the biggest leader of the country.
23:24He has given a clear line to solve the issues.
23:27I am ready to talk to everyone.
23:29Now, if you are in a dilemma that I will talk to him or not.
23:32Look, we will not solve the problem by sitting with ANP or any other party.
23:39The problem will be solved by sitting with those who have a problem.
23:42That is the Noon League.
23:43Okay, then clear me.
23:44I am sorry I am cutting you short over here.
23:46One minute.
23:48And we have not asked you to come and negotiate with us.
23:52The Noon League's Rana Sanaullah and his other professor,
23:56Irfan Siddiqui,
24:00who I think is very close to Nawaz Sharif,
24:02we have repeatedly asked him to negotiate with us.
24:05This is a very big thing.
24:06Ali Mohan, they are asking you to negotiate.
24:09You did not agree.
24:10You said this because you met and Barrister Gauhar met.
24:13So you must know what Imran Khan said.
24:16Imran Khan said that he is ready to talk to everyone.
24:18But Barrister Gauhar said that he is ready to talk to everyone
24:21except the people who have stolen the mandate.
24:23So are you saying that the IF ad that Barrister Gauhar has made,
24:27Imran Khan has not said anything of his own accord?
24:30No, I have met Imran Khan today.
24:33I wanted to talk about the negotiations but the time was less.
24:37So I will not deny this.
24:40Because Barrister Gauhar is a responsible man.
24:42He is a gentleman.
24:45As they say in English, he is a no-nonsense person.
24:48He does not talk nonsense.
24:50But I am presenting my political opinion in front of you.
24:53Mr. Khan will take more clarity in this.
24:55As I told you in the beginning,
24:57the problem is with Noon.
24:59Noon has proposed the negotiations.
25:01So I am talking to them clearly from our side.
25:04If they have a clear opinion on the negotiations,
25:07then they should present the points on which they want to talk
25:10so that those things are kept in front of Imran Khan.
25:13In my opinion, the No. 1 agenda is the release of Imran Khan and the captives.
25:17No. 2 is the return of the mandate.
25:19If Noon League is serious about this,
25:21then there is a possibility that things will move forward.
25:23If they are not serious about this,
25:25then there will be no discussion.
25:27Secondly, if they do not talk about this,
25:29then I do not see any other entity to talk to.
25:32Do we have to talk to the Election Commission?
25:35Or do we have to talk to a player?
25:39Do we have to talk to an actor?
25:41You cannot sit and talk to non-state actors.
25:44Mr. Shehryar Afridi was saying that we have to talk to the establishment.
25:47He was not serious about the army.
25:49Then Mr. Rauf Hassan said that we want to talk to the army,
25:52but we want to talk about the issues of Pakistan.
25:55Listen, I do not like that my own colleagues,
25:59one is my elder brother,
26:01and Mr. Rauf is very respectable.
26:04He loves me a lot.
26:06I will not comment on him.
26:08I will talk about myself.
26:09I am a political worker.
26:10I do not give a negative opinion.
26:12People say that I have a negative opinion.
26:14If you have a negative opinion, then keep it to yourself.
26:16So, my non-negative opinion as a political worker is that
26:19political parties do not discuss with the establishment.
26:23There is no scope for this.
26:25You sit with the political forces and discuss the issues.
26:28Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan,
26:29after listening to you,
26:31any person will sit with his head held high
26:33that Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan is saying that
26:35we do not want to talk to the establishment.
26:37Everyone else is saying that we want to talk to the establishment.
26:39He is the chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
26:42But you are older than him in PTI.
26:44And you are saying that Mr. Khan is ready to talk to everyone.
26:47And we should talk to PMLN.
26:48And he is saying that we should leave the three political parties
26:50and talk to everyone else.
26:51Now you have put this in more confusion, Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan.
26:54No, there is no confusion.
26:57See, a joke is a joke.
27:00Two parties sit in a joke.
27:02The media stands outside.
27:03They take interviews.
27:04After that you come out.
27:05There is a press talk.
27:06There is an announcement.
27:07Then there is a meeting.
27:08Then in two or three meetings,
27:09something goes on.
27:11Now you cannot do this kind of thing with the establishment.
27:15What kind of a joke is this?
27:17You are joking with them like this.
27:18So you do not want to talk to them?
27:20You listen to me.
27:22You fire me a little early.
27:24I am actually very curious.
27:25Yes, this has happened in the past.
27:29And it happens.
27:30I will not confirm or deny.
27:31But there is talk with the establishment.
27:34The confusion is removed.
27:35If there are any threats,
27:36there is talk about that too.
27:37But the real discussion is between the political forces.
27:43Establishment is a living, living reality in our country.
27:46Everyone is confident that a lot of space has been gathered.
27:52We need the establishment to return to its traditional role.
27:56And when it returns to its traditional role,
27:58it becomes the crown of the nation.
28:00But when those lines cross
28:02and they come to the political paraphernalia,
28:04then there is confusion and it is not good for the country.
28:07So if there is talk about those things,
28:09then you cannot call it a joke.
28:11If you want to have a conversation with a senior member,
28:14you can go and do it.
28:15Like it has happened in the past.
28:16So will there be such a conversation with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaab?
28:19And it has been discussed with the people of the Middle East.
28:21It has been discussed with our people too.
28:23In the past, when our Parvez Khattak was in the Jamaat,
28:25or Asad Umar Sahib,
28:26or even Fouad Bhai,
28:28Fouad Sahib,
28:29they used to talk to him.
28:30Or Shabaz Sharif Sahib.
28:32I will not talk about how they used to talk to each other.
28:35But you cannot call it a joke.
28:37A joke is always between political forces.
28:40Okay, please clarify this for me, Ali Muhammad Sahib.
28:43That Bani, the chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaab,
28:48whatever he has said,
28:49every word of it…
28:50Forget Bani.
28:51Imran Khan Sahib.
28:52I have been taking his name since that time.
28:53But I still want to make it clear
28:55that the current chairman and Bani chairman are different.
28:57Gaur Sahib is also there.
28:59So, please tell me,
29:01did he say it in such a way
29:03that everyone is talking with their own perception?
29:06Did he not say it clearly,
29:07that this will be discussed,
29:08and this will not be discussed?
29:10Look, he has made a committee.
29:12His name has also been included in it.
29:14Our Jamaat's people are responsible for it.
29:16Now, look,
29:17we don't have to go and sit in front of him
29:19and say,
29:20we are ready,
29:21come and make jokes.
29:22This is the job of the government.
29:23The government takes the initiative.
29:25It creates an environment for jokes.
29:26You tell me one thing.
29:28You tie my hands,
29:30you tie my feet,
29:31you put me in a wheelbarrow,
29:32put me in some jail,
29:33and then you tell me,
29:34come and make jokes.
29:35How is that possible?
29:36You create an environment for jokes.
29:38Look,
29:39you can't put Khan Sahib in jail and make jokes.
29:41Talk about Imran Khan Sahib's release,
29:43talk about the return of the mandate,
29:44and then the matter can move forward.
29:46And one more thing,
29:47which is very important,
29:48which is in my opinion,
29:49I also talked about Adyala today.
29:51When I went to Adyala on Monday,
29:55Pir,
29:56he did not let me meet.
29:57I talked about Adyala.
29:58And this week,
29:59I also talked about the Supreme Court.
30:01And the thing is,
30:02I don't think,
30:03as I have seen the political parties in this parliament,
30:07the government and the opposition working together,
30:09when we were in the opposition,
30:11and this was in the government,
30:12then we came to the government,
30:13this was in the opposition,
30:14now we are in the opposition,
30:15and this is in the government of Form 47.
30:17I think this issue of the mandate,
30:20this issue cannot be solved by the parliament.
30:23For that,
30:24the Supreme Court will have to play a role.
30:26Our petition is present in the Supreme Court.
30:28We request Mr. Qazi Faiz Issa
30:31that you take it up,
30:32make a judicial commission,
30:33take a sumo to notice,
30:35so that this is the biggest theft investigation in history,
30:38which is a theft on the law.
30:40Because,
30:41because,
30:42what do you think,
30:43the Shahbaz government,
30:44will they make a government from Form 47
30:46and decide against themselves,
30:48that yes, we have come from Form 47
30:50and have donated,
30:51or are the beneficiaries of the donation?
30:53So ultimately,
30:54it will go to the Supreme Court.
30:55But,
30:56Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan,
30:57the issue is that,
30:58the parliament has been turned into a dead space,
31:01to which you are pointing,
31:02all the political parties have their own role in this.
31:05When they come to power,
31:06there is a different kind of behaviour,
31:08including the Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
31:10and when they go to the opposition,
31:11they are completely different.
31:12I mean,
31:13there is a 180 degree turn.
31:14So,
31:15the role of the parliamentarians
31:16or the political parties
31:17was to turn the parliament into a dead space.
31:19Or if someone is taking space,
31:20if that space is created,
31:21then the space is taken.
31:22So,
31:23if you all sit together and talk,
31:24then things will go in a different direction.
31:27Looking at the Supreme Court,
31:28or looking at Gate No. 4,
31:30shouldn't this be closed now?
31:32If I talk about this a little,
31:34I think it will become very clear to you.
31:37It is a matter of many years ago.
31:39When I came for the first time in 2013,
31:41I had a very respectful relationship with them.
31:43Now,
31:44they are not in the parliament.
31:45Javed Ashmi Sahib has left our Jama'at.
31:47But,
31:48when I still had a respectful relationship with them,
31:50we had a Jalsa in Malta in 2022.
31:53When I went for the Jalsa,
31:54I was informed that
31:55Mr. Hashmi's health was not good.
31:56Then I went to his village
31:58to ask about his health.
31:59In reality,
32:00his health was not good.
32:01May Allah give him health.
32:02Anyway,
32:03time has passed.
32:04May Allah give him health.
32:05Once,
32:06they told me something.
32:07They said that
32:08I came to politics
32:09because I thought
32:10that there should be a place
32:11where I can talk.
32:13So,
32:14let me take this forward.
32:15In the whole of Pakistan,
32:16look,
32:17there are beautiful cities,
32:18Lahore,
32:19Kashi,
32:20Peshawar,
32:21Lahore,
32:22Quetta.
32:23But,
32:24there is no place
32:25where the whole of Pakistan is united.
32:26Except for this parliament,
32:27this corridor,
32:29this roof,
32:30under the name of Allah,
32:3125 crore representatives are united.
32:33This is the greatness of this place
32:35by the grace of Allah.
32:36But,
32:37unfortunately,
32:38here,
32:39when the whole of Pakistan
32:40is united,
32:41then,
32:42this is a garden
32:43which has no fragrance.
32:44It is all paper flowers.
32:45The reason for this is
32:46that
32:47the number of people
32:48sitting here
32:49is 342.
32:50There are only 3-4 members
32:51of 342.
32:52Can any member
32:53talk to his community
32:54here and there?
32:55Do they have
32:56any permission
32:57to come and sit
32:58and talk about
32:59issues and solutions?
33:00So,
33:01what you said
33:02that the parliament
33:03has never been allowed
33:04to work
33:05and I am not talking
33:06about a single community.
33:07In fact,
33:08whenever parliamentarians
33:09sit in the parliament,
33:10there are some forces
33:11who
33:12don't like
33:13to sit
33:14and talk
33:15about issues
33:16and solutions
33:17in the parliament.
33:18So,
33:19we will have
33:20to make
33:21a lot of effort
33:22for this.
33:23We will have
33:24to make
33:25a lot of effort
33:26for the political
33:27parties.
33:28We will have
33:29to make
33:30an effort.
33:31There is no doubt
33:32about this.
33:33I have to go
33:34to the break.
33:35We will come back
33:36after the break
33:37and we will
33:38record it.
33:39Thank you very much
33:40Mr. Ali.
33:41Welcome back
33:42after the break.
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