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00:00 Why do you think it's important to do the challenge, Sage?
00:03 I think it's important to normalise things through just talking about it.
00:09 You don't know everything yourself, that's why you're with friends.
00:12 So it can help you know if what you're doing is right or maybe you need help with something.
00:19 It can do a lot of good.
00:29 Sage, thank you for the interview.
00:30 So, drawing up a poem, what was that like?
00:33 It's a rather low, cold, gloomy place.
00:37 But I think it's something different, moving to a place where everyone speaks a different language.
00:42 The experience was different too.
00:44 Because I came from an SX in the creative world, right?
00:47 You had to move over to a poem when you were young.
00:49 Exactly.
00:50 How did you deal with those changes?
00:52 At the beginning, everything was just boring.
00:56 I felt overwhelmed, but I can't describe it in words.
01:02 I was overwhelmed, there was a lot going on.
01:06 I think my whole family felt the same.
01:08 It took me a while to integrate with the language, with the people, with what was working there.
01:15 You have Eritreans and Sage Tods too.
01:19 Are they different people?
01:21 Sage Tods makes it easy for me to know who I am and to say it too.
01:27 Maybe you feel a bit free to have some kind of power to show your emotions in some way.
01:36 If someone is a stranger to me, I'm not going to say things deep about my life and let them know everything.
01:42 But I can do that through music in any way I need.
01:46 How much has music influenced your life?
01:56 I wouldn't say that there's a life that has influenced my music, not music that has influenced my life.
02:03 I think my experiences and the things I've gone through in my life
02:07 that then decides what I write music about.
02:12 It's important to have some kind of outlet, and for me, music influenced me.
02:18 I go through a lot of experiences through school, and you can't blame the same people who create the problem.
02:25 You have to find another way to deal with it.
02:28 Like a cathartic process, a way to just get rid of the emotions in a good, healthy way.
02:35 Not get rid of them, but use them.
02:37 I don't blame people, I don't think about negative experiences in my life.
02:43 I think it's important to keep something inside, and no matter what the feeling is,
02:49 you have to talk about it, write about it, you have to do something with it, or as people,
02:56 it comes out in a way that you can't control.
03:01 I think that young people have to have a purpose and something to look up to, and models like that.
03:09 I agree with purpose.
03:11 A purpose that makes choices for you, just fine.
03:17 For me anyway, that's why I'm in Cardiff, because I follow my purpose.
03:22 You talk sometimes in the music industry about things like gender or masculinity, and old age too.
03:29 What does gender or masculinity look like?
03:33 Personally, I feel like, looking after my family and friends,
03:38 being a person who does what I say, and just being a consistent presence in the lives of people I care about.
03:48 Why do you think it's important to do the work, Sage?
03:55 I think it's important to normalise things through just talking about it.
04:01 If it's vulnerable through music or having a chat, I think it can do a lot of different things.
04:08 I tend to be around people who think differently than me,
04:14 so we don't have to get along in that way a lot.
04:18 But it's not just friends, if someone says something that you think is completely wrong,
04:25 open up a conversation.
04:27 If it's something serious, you need to say more, but yeah, definitely.
04:32 You don't know everything yourself, that's why you're with friends.
04:35 So it can help you know if what you're doing is right, or maybe you need help with something.
04:44 Sometimes you can come to something different and think, "Oh, this isn't a problem."
04:48 And you show it to your friends, and it's like, "Hang on, mate, that's a bit..."
04:52 It's a different perspective.
04:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
04:55 Sage, why don't we talk a bit about the new song, Gone Scene Blocked?
05:04 What's the story behind it?
05:07 The story is about people these days,
05:11 and how they can be quite shallow
05:16 about "gone", like, "gone from your life" scene.
05:21 A lot of people are left behind.
05:25 It's like the blue tick on Instagram, or WhatsApp, that kind of thing.
05:29 Yeah, double blues, or...
05:31 Double blues, yeah.
05:32 ...blocked, you can block someone easily.
05:34 That's the story, really.
05:35 It's about looking at the person, and maybe not going well,
05:39 but there's a healthy way of talking about it.
05:42 Why do you think it's important to show all those things?
05:45 We don't have to be macho, professional,
05:48 buying and selling things like a breakup, for example.
05:51 Everyone knows they can be wrong.
05:53 My way of...
05:57 I just show my truth through songs,
06:00 and then if people can relate, I encourage that.
06:03 I think one of the best ways is to be consistent,
06:07 and time can heal a lot.
06:10 The truth is, it's up to the individual.
06:13 Try what you need to try, and see what's best for you.
06:16 As a millennial looking at someone who's Gen Z,
06:22 sometimes I think, "Oh, Gen Z, they've sort it out,
06:25 "they can be open, they can talk about emotions."
06:28 Do you think that's true,
06:30 or is there still a challenge in talking to young people
06:34 in the Gen Z category as well?
06:37 You get a lot of information,
06:39 you don't think you know how to use it.
06:42 From my experience, I think we're good at talking,
06:45 but we're just finding what's best for us,
06:48 personally, as a young person too.
06:51 I think a lot of young people go to the gym
06:54 and find ways to deal with their emotions there.
06:57 I teach music, and some people do different things,
07:01 so they find what's best for them.
07:04 Talk a lot, take it easy, everything's fine.
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