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00:00 (plane engine roaring)
00:02 - The pilots of Air Transport International Flight 782
00:05 prepare to depart from Kansas City
00:08 with just three of their four working engines.
00:10 - A three engine ferry.
00:12 It's a difficult maneuver.
00:14 - 100 knots.
00:15 - Okay.
00:16 - Their takeoff goes tragically wrong.
00:19 - We're off the runway.
00:20 - Go max power.
00:21 - You got it.
00:23 (plane crashing)
00:26 - This accident of course was very tragic
00:28 and they did not make it.
00:30 - Exonation of the wreck reveals very little.
00:32 - Stem to stern, wingtip to wingtip was airworthy.
00:35 - But when investigators visit the simulator
00:37 used to train the pilots.
00:39 - This is not how their aircraft would have behaved.
00:41 - They begin to understand the origins of this accident.
00:45 - The simulators are extremely accurate.
00:48 We were shocked that this one was not.
00:51 (plane engine roaring)
00:54 (glass shattering)
00:57 (plane engine roaring)
01:00 (soft music)
01:11 - Okay, first things first.
01:19 Let's review our three engine ferry procedure.
01:21 - Sure thing.
01:22 - Yep.
01:25 - Air Transport International flight 782 has been canceled.
01:30 One of its four engines won't start.
01:32 - Maintain directional control using rudder
01:36 and nose wheel steering.
01:38 - The replacement crew is taking the cargo plane
01:41 for repairs to a maintenance facility in Massachusetts.
01:44 - The only crews that are permitted to do
01:46 a three engine ferry are the very experienced crews
01:49 because it is very dangerous.
01:51 It does not happen very often.
01:55 - Captain Walter Meager has worked his way up
01:57 from flying the DC-6 and DC-7
02:00 and is now captain on the airline's DC-8 aircraft.
02:03 - The captain had about 4,000 hours in the DC-8.
02:08 He'd been flying the DC-8 for years.
02:11 - Max wind for takeoff, crosswinds 10 knots,
02:15 tailwinds five knots.
02:16 - Okay, let's check the weather on that.
02:18 - First officer Mark Alma is new to the company
02:23 and the plane, but he's been flying for 14 years.
02:26 - He only had about 200 hours in the DC-8.
02:29 However, he was commended for being enthusiastic,
02:33 for trying to learn and being an important part of the crew.
02:37 - There's a third crew member on board,
02:39 flight engineer Kerry Hardy.
02:41 - Flight engineer had more than 4,000 hours of flight time
02:46 and in large airplanes.
02:48 He was a very experienced pilot.
02:52 - It's a two hour flight from Kansas City
02:54 to Chicopee, Massachusetts,
02:56 where the engine is to be repaired.
02:58 - Here you go.
03:00 - Thank you.
03:02 - The crew has concerns about their schedule.
03:05 - There is a curfew on the airport in Massachusetts.
03:12 The airline had told the crew that they needed to land
03:14 by 11 p.m. because that is when that airport would close.
03:21 - What we're gonna need to do
03:22 is get as much direct as we can.
03:23 That'll allow us to fly a little bit better
03:25 than the 280 knots indicated.
03:26 - Well, as pilots, we're always trying to hurry.
03:31 The crew had decided that they wanted to fly
03:33 a more direct route at a faster speed.
03:36 - So we'll be using one nine right?
03:39 - First officer Alma wants the longest runway
03:42 for their takeoff.
03:43 - I'm gonna request right
03:45 because we'll get an extra 1300 feet.
03:46 - Okay.
03:50 - In order to take off, the DC-8 needs power
03:53 from at least three of its four engines.
03:56 - You always want the longest runway that you can get
04:00 with a takeoff like this,
04:02 so that you have more room to get the airplane
04:04 up to the proper speeds.
04:06 - Kansas City, this is Air Transport 782, ready to taxi.
04:11 We're gonna be a three engine departure.
04:13 - Flight 782 checks with air traffic control
04:19 about their runway assignment.
04:21 - Air Transport 782, south on Bravo, taxi runway one left.
04:25 - Okay, south on Bravo, taxi one left, Air Transport 782.
04:31 What's the winds?
04:33 - Winds, two four zero at four.
04:36 - Roger.
04:36 - That's a tailwind, right?
04:38 - Yeah.
04:39 - You don't want a tailwind with a three engine takeoff
04:42 because it's going to take more runway.
04:44 - Two four zero and we're running into what?
04:48 - Four.
04:49 - Four knots.
04:50 - The tailwind was acceptable.
04:54 The maximum tailwind allowed was five knots
04:57 and they had four knots.
04:59 - Flight 782 taxis to the longer runway.
05:02 - Takeoff data.
05:05 - Okay, this is a max power takeoff.
05:09 - The pilots review the required speeds
05:11 for the three engine takeoff.
05:13 - Okay, I got VMCG of 107, 123 for VR,
05:17 140 for V2 and 210 for the cleanup.
05:20 - Set.
05:21 - This takeoff requires raising both inboard engines,
05:26 engine two and engine three, to max power.
05:29 Only when the plane reaches a certain speed
05:32 can the third working engine, engine four,
05:34 be increased to max power.
05:36 - Controlling the airplane on the runway
05:38 while you are adding the power
05:40 from the third engine is vital.
05:42 It must be done slowly and you must be able
05:44 to keep control of the airplane at all times.
05:47 - And of course, we'll all be watching real close
05:50 for loss of directional control.
05:52 - Two engines on the right side
05:56 are gonna cause the aircraft to veer to the left.
06:00 It's only gonna have one engine operating on the left side.
06:03 So directional control is the critical issue
06:06 on that three engine takeoff like this.
06:10 - Number one engine is inoperative.
06:12 So what we're gonna do is set max power
06:14 on number two and number three.
06:16 - Right. - Right.
06:17 - As the crew nears the end of the taxi,
06:19 they finalize the takeoff plan.
06:21 - Okay, then I'll ease in number four.
06:25 - And I'll call increments at 0.1.
06:26 - Yeah.
06:27 - Flight 782 is now ready for takeoff.
06:39 - Okay, coming up on two and three.
06:41 - The crew lets the inboard engines spool up
06:47 before the plane starts moving.
06:49 - Set max power.
06:52 - Max power two and three.
06:53 - At 8.20 PM, Air Transport International Flight 782
06:59 begins its takeoff.
07:08 - 1.3, 1.4.
07:11 - The flight engineer closely monitors engine power.
07:14 - Airspeed's alive, 1.6.
07:16 - 80 knots.
07:17 90 knots.
07:21 - But 20 seconds into the takeoff roll,
07:23 the plane veers left of the center line.
07:25 - 1.8, 100 knots.
07:29 - The captain uses his rudder to redirect the plane
07:33 to the center of the runway, but it doesn't work.
07:38 - Stopboard.
07:39 - Spoilers.
07:43 - Air Transport 782, aborting takeoff.
07:47 - Flight 782 aborts its three-engine takeoff.
07:53 - Air Transport 782, roger.
07:57 When able, turn right off the runway.
07:59 Do you need any assistance?
08:01 Negative assistance?
08:02 - No, negative.
08:03 - Negative assistance, Air Transport 782.
08:07 - The crew considers what went wrong.
08:09 - We were at 1.6 and then power went all the way up to 1.9.0
08:15 as you ran it up.
08:16 So it went up real fast.
08:18 - And number four jerked up
08:20 while I was trying to ease it in.
08:22 - You brought it up too fast or it jerked up or what?
08:25 - The power on, it just came on too fast.
08:28 That's what happened.
08:29 - Hardy proposes a solution.
08:37 - If you want to try it again,
08:37 I could try adding the power if you like.
08:39 - Okay, let's do it that way.
08:42 - It was decided that the flight engineer
08:46 would help the captain and he would add the power
08:49 on the third engine for the second takeoff.
08:52 - Tell him we want to taxi back and have another try at it.
08:55 - Kansas City Ground, Air Transport 782.
08:58 We'd like to taxi back to depart one left again.
09:02 - Air Transport 782, roger.
09:04 Taxi one left.
09:06 - Okay.
09:07 - While returning to the runway,
09:12 the crew revisits the takeoff procedure.
09:15 - Okay, when do I have to have max power
09:17 in on the outboard engine?
09:18 - 107.
09:21 - Flight 782 is again ready for takeoff.
09:34 - Kansas City Control, Air Transport 782,
09:37 ready to go at the end of one left,
09:38 three engine takeoff.
09:40 - Air Transport 782, heavy, control one left.
09:44 Turn right, zero, three, zero.
09:47 Clear for takeoff.
09:48 - I've lined up just to the right of the center line here.
09:54 - That's a good idea.
09:55 - The captain did line up on the right side of the runway
09:59 because they veered off to the left on the first takeoff
10:03 and he wanted to give himself more runway width available
10:07 in order to do the second takeoff.
10:09 - Okay, make sure the two and three are set.
10:12 - Max power?
10:13 - Yeah.
10:14 - At 826 in the evening,
10:16 Flight 782 begins its second takeoff attempt.
10:20 - One one, one two.
10:23 One three, one four.
10:30 One five, one six.
10:35 Airspeed's alive.
10:45 - 10 seconds into the takeoff roll,
10:47 the plane again starts veering to the left.
10:50 - One seven.
10:52 - The captain tries to direct it back to the center line
10:56 with the rudder.
10:57 (plane engine roaring)
11:01 - God bless it.
11:03 - Keep it going.
11:08 - Keep it going? - Yeah.
11:09 - 80 knots, 90 knots.
11:13 - The captain attempts to get airborne.
11:16 - We're off the runway.
11:24 - But he doesn't have the speed.
11:26 - Go max power.
11:27 - He tries to salvage the takeoff.
11:33 Flight 782 is barely in the air.
11:35 - Get the nose down.
11:39 - Go max power.
11:40 - You got it.
11:40 - Max power.
11:43 (plane engine roaring)
11:46 - Alert three, runway zero one, north end.
12:01 DC eight on takeoff.
12:02 - Air Transport International,
12:06 Flight 782 has crashed beside the runway
12:10 at Kansas City Airport.
12:12 Fire and rescue units are nearby
12:15 on a night training exercise.
12:17 They rush to the crash site.
12:18 - We heard a real loud boom
12:21 like something hit the dock real hard.
12:22 - Take long for fire rescue crews to arrive
12:24 on the scene I'm assuming?
12:25 - No, no, just in a matter of 60 seconds.
12:27 - All three crew members are dead.
12:31 The National Transportation Safety Board or NTSB
12:37 is notified and Bob Benzon is named lead investigator.
12:41 - The aircraft had broken apart
12:43 although it was in three large pieces.
12:45 A fuselage behind the wings
12:48 seemed to be reasonably intact.
12:50 The wing assembly itself seemed to be in one piece.
12:52 - The question Benzon must answer,
12:56 why was the crew unable to execute this takeoff?
13:00 Not once, but twice.
13:02 - We were aware that it was an attempted
13:05 three engine takeoff.
13:07 And because that is an unusual maneuver,
13:09 we wondered if that could have been part
13:11 of the reason the aircraft crashed.
13:13 - Thanks for taking the time to meet.
13:16 - While the plane wreckage is collected,
13:19 investigators speak to the controller
13:21 to learn more about the crash.
13:23 - When did you realize there was an issue with flight 782?
13:26 - I guess the first thing that caught my attention
13:30 was that they aborted their first takeoff.
13:32 - Why?
13:34 - I was told the plane veered left on the runway.
13:36 - And then?
13:39 - They lined up for their next takeoff
13:41 and the same thing happened, only worse.
13:43 The plane veered left,
13:46 and this time they rotated awkwardly, nose high.
13:49 There was a fire coming out of one of the engines
13:53 and then there was a loud bang.
13:54 Then the plane stalled, rolled left and crashed.
14:02 (plane engine roaring)
14:06 - The fire, what side?
14:14 - Left.
14:15 - That had to be engine number two.
14:18 - Plane engines are numbered from left to right.
14:27 For flight 782, the number one engine was inoperative.
14:31 If engine two failed,
14:33 the crew would be left with only the right engines.
14:36 - We knew because this was a three engine takeoff attempt.
14:40 And if we'd lost any more power
14:42 on the left side of the aircraft,
14:43 it may have caused an immediate crash.
14:46 - What have you got?
14:51 - Investigators examine engine number two
14:53 after its recovery from the crash site.
14:56 - No penetration on the nose cowl.
15:01 Fuel is present throughout.
15:03 Compressor bleed valve is closed.
15:06 - They discover that it was operative
15:08 and it didn't fail on takeoff.
15:10 - That fire in the engine was probably a compressor surge.
15:15 - A compressor surge is a phenomenon that occurs
15:20 when the tilt of the engine is high enough
15:24 that it disturbs the airflow going into the intake
15:27 and causes a big bang,
15:29 flames coming out both ends perhaps.
15:32 But technically the engine isn't damaged at all.
15:37 - No unusual wear.
15:41 - If all three remaining engines were working,
15:46 could one of the brakes have locked,
15:48 causing the plane to veer left?
15:50 - Treads look almost new.
15:52 No flat spots.
15:53 - The tires show no sign of abnormal braking.
15:57 - Okay.
15:58 Let's have a look at the brakes.
16:00 - We thought that because they had aborted
16:02 the earlier takeoff,
16:04 maybe they used the brakes very heavily
16:08 and caused them to fail frankly or weaken
16:12 and then fail completely during the second takeoff.
16:15 - Brake stack assembly looks fine.
16:23 - No discoloration or pitting on the pads.
16:26 - Discs are clean.
16:28 No signs of overheating.
16:30 - We looked at brakes very carefully.
16:35 We found nothing really physically wrong.
16:37 There was no overheating or melting together.
16:40 So in essence, the brake system did not become an issue.
16:44 - The NTSB is still unable to determine
16:48 whether the brakes are working properly.
16:50 The NTSB is still unable to determine
16:54 why the crew lost control.
16:56 - Let's check out the rudder.
16:58 - The rudder plays a massive role
17:02 in a three-engine takeoff.
17:03 It is the key to keeping the airplane going straight
17:06 and being safe.
17:07 - Three-engine takeoffs require the two inboard engines
17:12 to reach VMCG, or minimum control speed on the ground.
17:16 Only then can the rudder counteract
17:19 the directional force of the third working engine
17:21 as it's powered up.
17:22 - The faster you are going,
17:27 the more rudder control you have,
17:29 and you need that rudder control
17:31 to be able to keep the airplane on the runway.
17:33 - How's the rudder control cable look?
17:41 - Did the rudder malfunction,
17:43 causing the crew to lose control of the plane?
17:46 - The cable's severed in several different places, see?
17:49 - There's no corrosion or fraying.
17:51 Probably severed in the crash.
17:53 - Agreed.
17:54 Let's test the rudder.
17:57 - We looked very carefully at the cabling
18:00 that we used in the rudder system,
18:02 and the only thing we did note were simple breaks
18:05 in the cables because of overload, instant overload,
18:09 which occurred during the crash.
18:11 - Control cable ready?
18:13 - Good to go.
18:16 - If the rudder cables didn't fail,
18:18 then could the rudder itself have malfunctioned?
18:21 - Okay, deflect left.
18:22 - Investigators test its movement.
18:27 - Turning to the left.
18:28 - But the rudder moves freely.
18:33 - We're good.
18:34 - On occasion in previous accidents,
18:38 rudders have locked up or become blocked
18:41 by some broken part,
18:43 and we found that this did not occur during this event.
18:47 - The mystery of Flight 782's crash deepens.
18:53 - In the end, we looked at the entire wreckage
18:58 very, very carefully, from stem to stern, wingtip to wingtip,
19:02 and determined that it was airworthy.
19:04 We had to look into other areas to determine what happened.
19:13 - Okay, we found skid marks on the runway
19:15 for the first takeoff, starting here, all the way to here.
19:20 Then they aborted.
19:23 - Investigators now turn to evidence left behind
19:26 by Flight 782 to determine why it veered off the runway.
19:30 - In the second takeoff, the skid starts even earlier, here.
19:34 And the marks last till here.
19:42 Skid marks were there, indicating that,
19:44 although the aircraft was rolling forward,
19:47 it was skidding to the left side of the runway.
19:49 - The skid marks are a telltale sign.
19:53 - It looks like they had too much power
19:54 to the right side of the plane,
19:57 and it happened early on.
19:58 Look, on both takeoffs,
20:01 they skidded to the left after only 500 feet.
20:04 - Correct.
20:06 So maybe there was an issue with the power
20:10 in that third working engine.
20:13 - Let's find out.
20:14 - We discovered that the engine operation
20:16 would probably be some kind of an issue.
20:19 And the only way we could determine that
20:21 was to go to the flight data recorder.
20:23 - Did engine number four somehow cause the plane
20:27 to veer too far to the left?
20:29 - There's the airspeed data there.
20:33 - Investigators examine the flight data recorder
20:37 to learn how the crew managed their engines.
20:40 - Looks like we have a glitch here.
20:42 - To learn more about how the crew
20:45 manipulated the throttles,
20:47 we needed two parameters from the FDR,
20:49 airspeed and the engine pressure ratio, or the EPR.
20:53 We had airspeed, but unfortunately,
20:55 this FDR did not record correctly the EPR.
20:59 - We need a workaround to get that engine data.
21:03 - What about a sound spectrum analysis?
21:06 - Sure, let's give it a shot.
21:10 (engine whirring)
21:13 - Okay, coming up on two and three.
21:15 - There's a microphone in the cockpit
21:22 that records every sound.
21:25 And they can record and hear the engines
21:28 as they are increased or decreased.
21:31 And they're very accurate.
21:32 (engine whirring)
21:35 - The team conducts a digital analysis of the engine sounds.
21:46 - Done, great work.
21:50 Let's compare the third working engine, engine four,
21:55 with the plane's overall airspeed data.
21:59 In the end, we use both the FDR and the CVR
22:02 to determine the airspeed throughout the entire flight
22:05 and the power setting for all three of the operating engines.
22:10 - It looks like the third working engine, engine number four,
22:20 almost reaches max power in 10 seconds
22:22 when the airspeed is only about 65 knots.
22:28 - That seems awfully slow.
22:29 - Was the power to engine four
22:34 increased too soon in the takeoff roll?
22:36 - Let's check the three engine takeoff chart.
22:40 - Investigators examined the chart used by the crew
22:44 to determine the speed they needed to reach
22:46 before applying max power to engine number four.
22:49 - What was their weight?
22:53 - Their weight was 220,000 pounds.
22:56 Temperature is zero degrees.
22:57 (dramatic music)
23:00 - They shouldn't have put the third working engine
23:02 to max power until they reached 116 knots.
23:05 That's the target speed.
23:07 - At 65 knots, it was way too much power too soon.
23:11 - One three, one four, one five, one six.
23:18 - Airspeed's alive.
23:22 - One seven.
23:23 - Investigators conclude engine four
23:25 was powered up too fast, pushing the plane to the left.
23:29 - They never reached the speed they needed
23:36 for the rudder to counteract the power of both engines
23:38 on the right side of the plane.
23:40 - That's why they veered off the runway.
23:44 - Why did the pilots increase power
23:48 to the right outboard engine so quickly?
23:53 - We knew that the issue here was reaching VMCG
23:57 at exactly the right time
23:59 with the correct airspeed and everything,
24:01 but the crew didn't do that
24:02 and that became the big question.
24:04 Why?
24:04 Why didn't they do that?
24:05 - Whenever you're ready.
24:13 - Benzin's team listens to the cockpit voice recorder
24:16 or CVR to better understand how the pilots of flight 782
24:20 performed the three engine procedure.
24:23 - Okay, this is a max power takeoff speeds.
24:27 VR of 123, 140 and 210.
24:31 VMCG of 107.
24:33 - Okay, I got VMCG of 107, VR of 123, 140 for V2,
24:40 and 210 on the cleanup.
24:41 - Both pilots think the VMCG is 107 knots.
24:50 Should be 116.
24:52 - Yep, VMCG is 116 knots.
24:56 - So how did the flight engineer get that wrong?
24:58 - Wait a minute.
25:02 Check this out.
25:03 107 is the speed for a temperature of 30 degrees.
25:08 Celsius.
25:11 - Investigators discover the flight engineer
25:17 used the speed for a temperature of 30 degrees Celsius,
25:22 but on the night of the crash, it was 30 degrees Fahrenheit,
25:25 approximately zero degrees Celsius.
25:28 - That C for Celsius is so small.
25:33 He must've used 30 Celsius,
25:35 thinking the chart is in Fahrenheit.
25:45 - They selected the wrong line to get their V speeds.
25:49 - Here you go.
25:50 - Thanks.
25:52 - They were nine knots off on what VMCG should have been.
25:59 - It's happened before.
26:04 Four years earlier, a flight engineer
26:07 on another Air Transport DC-8
26:09 miscalculated the plane's weight,
26:11 providing the captain with the wrong takeoff speeds.
26:15 - I was one of the first investigators
26:17 from the NTSB to arrive on scene.
26:19 When I went into the cockpit,
26:22 it didn't take any smarts at all
26:23 to see the takeoff data was 100,000 pounds too low.
26:28 - And as a result, the company very seriously
26:32 began to emphasize the need to check those calculations
26:35 and make sure they're accurate.
26:37 And so it's disturbing that in this accident,
26:39 that did not happen.
26:40 - Is that the only thing the pilots missed?
26:43 (dramatic music)
26:46 - A question I consider, Captain.
26:54 Once we get near VMCG, if we've used all the rudder control,
26:59 you might want to consider abort.
27:01 'Cause when we get higher,
27:01 we're gonna be in worse trouble, correct?
27:04 - That's correct, absolutely.
27:05 - The CVR of flight 782 reveals
27:12 that the captain and first officer were uncertain
27:15 about the impact of VMCG speed on rudder control.
27:20 - The first officer made the comment
27:22 that you have, the rudder control is less effective
27:26 once you go beyond VMCG.
27:28 When actually the opposite is true.
27:31 - No, actually.
27:35 - The flight engineer realizes their mistake.
27:39 - Above the VMCG, your rudder has more authority.
27:41 It's helping you more.
27:42 - I understand.
27:45 - But the captain fails to acknowledge the correction.
27:48 - The flight engineer had the right answer
27:50 that the faster the airplane goes,
27:52 the more effective the rudder becomes.
27:55 And you need that effectiveness
27:57 to keep the airplane on the runway.
27:59 - Why didn't the crew stop and discuss it
28:03 until they reached a consensus?
28:05 - That's the advantage of having three people in the cockpit.
28:10 - The right answer generally exists somewhere in the cockpit.
28:13 In this instance, the flight engineer had the right answer.
28:16 - Maybe the lack of understanding about the procedure
28:19 caused them to abort their first takeoff.
28:21 - It's possible.
28:22 - Here it is.
28:28 - Check that out.
28:30 - Power went all the way up to 190 as you ran it up.
28:36 So it went up real fast.
28:39 And number four jerked up while I was trying to ease it in.
28:43 - You brought it up too fast?
28:44 - Investigators learned that the captain struggled
28:48 with engine four's thrust during the first takeoff roll.
28:52 - Power on, it just came on too fast.
28:54 That's what happened.
28:55 - If you wanna try it again,
28:59 I can try adding the power if you like.
29:01 - The flight engineer proposes
29:03 an unorthodox change to the procedure.
29:06 - Okay, let's do it that way.
29:08 (dramatic music)
29:10 - The flight engineer took over control of engine four.
29:13 - That's crazy.
29:14 - They couldn't have understood the difficulty
29:18 of the procedure if they split the responsibility.
29:21 - The core problem is the captain could not tell
29:24 how much rudder he was going to need
29:26 because he wasn't the one adding the thrust to the airplane.
29:29 It's like trying to have two people drive a stick shift car,
29:33 one doing the steering, one doing the shifting.
29:36 It just doesn't work.
29:37 You need to have one person in control at one time.
29:41 - The flight engineer and the captain thought
29:44 they could coordinate the takeoff together.
29:46 Let's figure out how they did.
29:51 - We worked with the Douglas Aircraft Company
29:55 and they produced a graph of what an ideal
29:59 three-engine takeoff should look like
30:01 with airspeed and engine speed.
30:04 We compared that with what actually happened.
30:07 - So this is what the crew was supposed to fly.
30:10 - Seems like the power and speed rise steadily
30:13 in unison until they reach VMCG.
30:15 - Very, very smooth and synchronized.
30:18 But in the accident flight, the flight engineer
30:22 brings up power to the engine number four really quickly.
30:25 - The plane begins to veer left off the runway.
30:32 Then he brings down the power abruptly here,
30:37 probably in reaction to the plane being out of control.
30:40 - Most probable thing we think happened
30:43 was that the flight engineer saw the aircraft
30:46 going off to the left of the runway and kind of panicked
30:49 and tried to pull the engines back a little bit.
30:52 - God bless you.
30:53 Keep it going.
31:00 - Keep it going? - Yeah.
31:01 - Instead of aborting, the captain attempts to get airborne
31:04 because they're about to veer off the runway.
31:06 - He was countermanded by the captain,
31:09 who said, "No, no, keep going."
31:10 So the engines went back up.
31:12 - We're off the runway.
31:13 Go max power.
31:14 - Then the captain insists that he goes to max power
31:21 a few seconds later.
31:23 - They don't have enough speed for takeoff.
31:25 - The captain never decided to abort,
31:27 and it appeared to be that he thought
31:29 he could get the airplane in the air.
31:32 We will never know.
31:33 - The captain and the flight engineer
31:39 can never coordinate their actions.
31:41 - One, two.
31:47 One, three.
31:49 - Why did the crew fail to execute a takeoff procedure
31:52 that they were specifically sent to Kansas City to perform?
31:58 - You got it!
31:59 - Find anything?
32:07 - Investigators review the work history
32:10 of Flight 782's crew to determine their experience
32:14 with three-engine takeoffs.
32:16 - Our flight engineer and our first officer were new hires.
32:21 They were still on probation.
32:22 It's almost certain that neither
32:23 had performed a three-engine takeoff.
32:26 - And the captain?
32:27 (papers rustling)
32:30 - He'd done it three times, but only his first officer.
32:36 He'd never actually flown as a captain.
32:39 - They were all green.
32:41 - The closest the captain came to flying
32:45 this type of takeoff was in a simulator.
32:48 He only trained on it twice.
32:54 Investigators traveled to Colorado
32:56 to assess the simulator the airline used
32:59 to train its pilots to perform three-engine takeoffs.
33:02 - Okay.
33:05 This is a three-engine takeoff,
33:08 and we're watching for directional control.
33:11 - Did the pilots have sufficient training
33:13 to perform this difficult procedure?
33:16 - I'll call it engine power and take it to max.
33:18 - Part of the examination was to see
33:20 if the simulator accurately portrayed
33:23 what a three-engine takeoff should entail.
33:25 - Okay.
33:27 Let me give this a try.
33:28 Engines two and three are spooled up.
33:32 Engine four is set.
33:33 Here we go.
33:35 Slowly bringing up four.
33:40 One, five.
33:46 One, six.
33:48 One, seven.
33:52 I am barely using my rudder.
33:54 There is no force pushing me off the runway.
33:57 - One, eight.
34:00 - We have VMCG.
34:01 Max power to engine four.
34:04 And rotate.
34:07 - In the simulator, the three-engine takeoff
34:09 is no different from a regular takeoff.
34:12 - Okay, cut.
34:13 - The simulator was not calibrated properly
34:19 and did not require the normal amount of rudder
34:23 that would be required with a three-engine takeoff.
34:26 - This is not how their aircraft would have behaved.
34:29 - Not a chance.
34:30 - Simulators are, for the most part, extremely accurate.
34:36 And in this particular case, we were frankly shocked
34:39 that this one was not.
34:41 It also happened to be the one that the crew trained on.
34:44 And this would really give them, I think,
34:47 a false sense of security when it came to the difficulty
34:51 of making a three-engine takeoff.
34:54 - I'm calling from the NTSB.
34:55 - How did Air Transport International, or ATI,
34:59 compare to other cargo operators on three-engine takeoffs?
35:03 - I'd like to talk to your chief pilot.
35:06 - We checked with the other cargo operators
35:09 who were operating the DC-8.
35:11 There were nine of them.
35:13 - So only your most qualified pilots do it, huh?
35:16 - The vast majority of them
35:18 use their most experienced crews
35:20 and limited the operation to daytime and good weather.
35:24 Now, this led us to believe that the industry as a whole
35:29 understood the danger and the difficulty
35:32 of a three-engine takeoff better than ATI did.
35:35 - Why did the airline choose such an inexperienced crew
35:39 for such a difficult flight?
35:40 - I think it's time we asked them that.
35:44 (gentle music)
35:46 - Our team went to Little Rock,
35:48 which is the headquarters of the ATI operation,
35:51 and we met with all of the key people there.
35:53 - Thanks for meeting with me.
35:56 So I've been told that you didn't use
35:59 your most experienced crew.
36:01 Why not?
36:02 - I needed my experienced crew for a revenue flight.
36:05 The Flight 782 crew is only legal for a non-revenue flight.
36:09 - How so?
36:12 - They'd only had enough rest for a non-revenue flight.
36:15 - You don't say.
36:16 - They discover that the crew was selected
36:20 because of a critical regulation
36:22 governing non-revenue flights and rest times.
36:25 - Normal flights where the company makes revenue
36:28 are covered by flight and duty time regulations.
36:31 For safety reasons, they have to provide a crew
36:34 that has been properly rested,
36:36 but there is a loophole that if the flight is not revenue,
36:41 then there are no flight and duty time regulations.
36:45 In theory, a crew could fly
36:47 in non-revenue flights indefinitely.
36:49 - Abort.
36:51 - Investigators now wonder how rested the crew was
36:57 when Flight 782 prepared for takeoff.
37:00 - So, think it's through this.
37:05 - Investigators closely examine the crew
37:10 of Flight 782's recent flight assignments.
37:13 - Okay, the morning before the accident,
37:16 our crew lands in Germany after a seven hour flight.
37:18 From Delaware.
37:22 - And how many time zones did they cross?
37:27 - Six.
37:29 Later that same day, they return,
37:34 landing first in Gander, Newfoundland,
37:38 and another flight to Delaware.
37:39 - So they crossed another six time zones heading back.
37:44 - We were aware that their circadian rhythm
37:49 had to be pretty much out of sync.
37:51 It's simply not a good thing.
37:55 - Fatigue is not easy to recognize,
37:59 but it degrades all aspects of thinking,
38:04 decision-making, and performance.
38:08 - They got into their hotel in Delaware
38:09 at 2.40 a.m. on the day of the crash.
38:11 - How much uninterrupted rest did the captain get?
38:15 - Less than five hours.
38:19 - So they didn't have enough rest
38:20 to fly anything except this flight,
38:23 and they were sent despite lacking the training
38:26 and experience they needed.
38:27 - The NTSB concludes its investigation
38:37 outlining the fateful steps
38:39 that caused the crash of Flight 782.
38:42 It begins with the poorly rested crew.
38:44 - One of the consistent findings of fatigue research
38:50 is that people tend to underestimate how tired they are.
38:54 Much of the time, you can conduct a safe flight doing that,
38:58 but if something unexpected happens,
39:01 you're at a real disadvantage.
39:03 In this case, the takeoff procedure
39:06 was much more complicated
39:07 than the crew had been trained to expect.
39:10 - Here you go.
39:11 - Thanks.
39:13 - The flight engineer makes an error in a calculation
39:17 that the other pilots don't catch.
39:19 - Once we get near VMCG,
39:21 if we've used all the rudder control,
39:22 you might wanna consider abort.
39:24 - 'Cause when we get higher,
39:25 we're gonna be in worse trouble, correct?
39:27 - That's correct, absolutely.
39:29 - The pilots are confused about the takeoff procedure.
39:33 - I know, actually.
39:36 Above VMCG, your rudder has more authority.
39:38 It's helping you more.
39:40 - This was a very delicate procedure
39:43 and they seemed to think otherwise.
39:46 - If you wanna try it again,
39:48 I could try adding the power if you like.
39:50 - Okay, let's do it that way.
39:51 - A decision to improvise a difficult takeoff
39:55 leads to the plane veering out of control.
39:59 - It was a very bad decision to improvise on this procedure
40:03 because only the person operating the rudder
40:06 can tell how effective that is when advancing the throttle.
40:10 - Okay.
40:12 - The captain decides not to abort a second time.
40:15 The plane lacks enough speed to safely get airborne.
40:22 - We're off the runway.
40:25 Go max power.
40:33 - It's hard to say what was going through his mind,
40:35 but I think he believed
40:36 he could get the aircraft airborne.
40:38 - In their report, the NTSB
40:42 makes several key recommendations.
40:45 One is to revise the training procedures
40:47 for three-engine takeoffs.
40:48 - The crew not only was not trained well,
40:53 it was inexperienced in the particular maneuver
40:55 they were talking about, and they retired.
41:00 - Closing the loopholes that allow flight crews
41:03 to perform non-revenue flights without adequate rest
41:06 is another recommendation.
41:07 - The reason this is relevant is because the company
41:11 elected to have this tired crew fly the three-engine ferry
41:16 rather than the rested crew
41:17 that was already present in Kansas City.
41:20 It was legal, but it was not a good idea.
41:24 - The NTSB also recommends that three-engine ferry flights
41:29 be assigned to specially designated experienced crews.
41:33 Training instructors advised pilots
41:35 of the simulator's shortcomings for three-engine takeoffs.
41:39 - Company exceeded the board's requests.
41:42 They really took it very seriously
41:43 and did change their whole procedure to prevent this.
41:47 - The airline industry as a whole does not follow suit.
41:50 Non-revenue flights remain exempt
41:52 from flight and duty time regulations.
41:55 - There should be no difference with safety,
41:58 whether there are people on the airplane,
42:00 freight on the airplane, or the airplane is empty.
42:03 One rest rule requirement should apply
42:05 to everybody, every time, everywhere.
42:08 (upbeat music)
42:10 (upbeat music)