Barrister Gohar Aur Omar Ayub Ke Mutazad Bayanat. Kya PTI Androoni Ikhtilaaf Ka Shikar Hai?
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00:00 "As long as my leader Imran Khan is in jail, there will be no negotiations."
00:06 "As far as Khan's coming out and our negotiations are concerned,
00:10 as a political party, the doors are always open for negotiations.
00:13 We do not attach Khan's coming out to any negotiations, nor are we dependent on it."
00:19 Who is right here?
00:22 Both are right.
00:24 They are talking in the context of Imran Khan's freedom.
00:31 They are talking in the context of functional relations.
00:34 No, they are saying that as long as Imran Khan is in jail, there will be no negotiations.
00:37 They are saying that even if Imran Khan is in jail, there is no reason for no negotiations.
00:40 We are a political democratic party.
00:42 They are talking about Khan's freedom.
00:44 They are talking about that.
00:46 They did not want to leave it until the implementation of the program.
00:55 I think the elections for the Senate are over.
00:58 The London Plan has been implemented.
01:01 But now, the question is, does the government want to stay?
01:04 My information is that they feel that they should not be in the government.
01:08 They should be out of it.
01:09 Can you repeat that?
01:10 You are saying that the government does not want to be in the government.
01:12 No, they do not want to be in the government.
01:14 They feel that they are not capable of fixing the situation.
01:17 They are raising their voices.
01:19 One day, you are saying that Shabaz Sharif will say that he will resign.
01:22 Shabaz Sharif will not say that.
01:24 The people who control Shabaz Sharif from behind, in the party, will do a lot.
01:28 But what will they say?
01:29 Will they say that you should leave and Imran Khan will come and become the Prime Minister?
01:31 Imran Khan will not become the Prime Minister until he has votes.
01:33 What will happen then?
01:34 This is a very big question.
01:36 If they do not want to be in the government, then what will happen?
01:38 Will there be another election?
01:40 Or will they fix the vote that has been stolen?
01:44 This will not happen.
01:45 It seems difficult.
01:46 You are absolutely right.
01:47 Then why should they resign?
01:49 The situation that is there at the moment cannot be handled.
01:51 This is not tenable.
01:52 They cannot do it at the last.
01:53 But you are aware that the problem is that if they do not do it at the last, then there is an election.
01:56 Then Tariq Khan will win.
01:57 Then they will give you seats and you will come and form a government.
02:00 They are not doing that.
02:01 Let's see what they do.
02:02 Because every institution is pressuring.
02:04 Yesterday, the situation of the Chief Justice,
02:07 like he was giving excuses, justifying himself,
02:10 he is talking about under pressure.
02:11 Every institution is under pressure.
02:13 Political parties are under pressure.
02:14 We know how much pressure we are under.
02:16 Our own people are under pressure.
02:17 Our followers are under pressure.
02:19 Today, we are afraid that if we are talking hypothetically,
02:23 then please do not say that I am proposing this.
02:25 No.
02:26 If today, for God's sake,
02:27 a person from the party says that we will deal,
02:30 then they will not leave us alone,
02:32 they will take our responsibility.
02:34 This is the situation at the moment.
02:36 So, these societies,
02:38 Kashif, when the walls are so high,
02:43 then there are a lot of problems.
02:45 The problems of the society are increasing.
02:47 Because nothing is happening from there.
02:50 To solve that, the economy…
02:51 But I am listening to you.
02:53 I have not heard that someone will leave or will leave.
02:57 Or something like that is going to happen.
02:59 Tell me, your political and legal teammates,
03:02 it seems that you have come in front.
03:04 It has been said that Umer Niazi and Sher Afzal Marwat are not the focal person.
03:09 Before this, they were.
03:10 This notification was made on 29th March.
03:13 What is happening within that one day someone is there,
03:15 the next day someone is there.
03:16 Where are you going with this?
03:18 No.
03:19 We are not in such a hurry as you are suggesting.
03:21 Problem.
03:22 Look, there are two things.
03:23 There are our legal teams and our political teams.
03:25 Now, the legal teams had a limited facility
03:30 that they kept meeting Khan Sahib.
03:32 They were meeting him.
03:33 But the political team did not let anyone meet him.
03:35 For example, I was trying for six months.
03:37 I have about 15 court orders.
03:41 I used to go there with those court orders.
03:44 And they used to make me wait for 2-3 hours and say,
03:47 "Sorry, we cannot make you meet."
03:49 So, this was a concern.
03:51 Because Khan Sahib used to go to all the meetings,
03:54 the lawyers used to come back and say that Raoul Sahib is telling you
03:57 or Umer Farooq, Umer Ayub Sahib is telling the rest.
04:00 Because basically, for political strategy,
04:02 they do not have to talk to the legal teams,
04:04 they have to talk to their political leaders.
04:06 So, in this system, an understanding was developing
04:10 that perhaps the legal teams are being stopped from meeting.
04:16 So, that was also right.
04:17 Their issues were our personal…
04:20 Sher Afzal, Mr. Laiyar has said,
04:21 Mr. Sher Afzal Marwat has apologised.
04:23 He said that until Imran Khan does not say,
04:25 I do not believe in this.
04:27 Imran Sahib has said this in front of me today.
04:31 I was sitting with Khan Sahib today.
04:33 I met him after 3 months.
04:35 And I think we met after 6-7 court orders.
04:38 Umer Ayub Sahib was sitting with me.
04:40 What was the reason?
04:41 What was the reason that he said,
04:42 "Sher Afzal Marwat is not there, I am not apologising."
04:44 No, he has changed his focal persons.
04:46 You must have said, "Sir, you are the wrong focal person."
04:48 No, no.
04:49 Khan Sahib had his own decision.
04:51 He said that the 5 focal persons that he has nominated today,
04:54 we announced them after Umer Ayub came out.
04:57 Apart from this, the spokesperson is with me.
05:00 That responsibility, as secretary, information is with me.
05:03 So, this is called conspiracy, Mr. Sher Afzal Marwat.
05:05 You are conspiring against us?
05:07 Party, PTI, this is not one of the parties that conspire.
05:12 We have so many, we have some positive pursuits.
05:16 We keep working.
05:17 Sir, tell us, is your cabinet doing any meetings in Peshawar?
05:21 The cabinet of KP, the core commander house, do you know about this?
05:25 I am not doing any meetings.
05:29 The way you have put it, that is not there.
05:32 I have come to know, and the patient has also come to know,
05:35 that people have been called on Aftari.
05:38 There are a few more such institutions from where people have been called on Aftari.
05:43 Chief Minister was also present.
05:45 I don't think Chief Minister was present.
05:47 I heard Chief Minister was with you.
05:49 No, I don't think he was present.
05:51 So, he was called on Aftari, so the establishment should be fine,
05:54 and it is fine, your dear sir.
05:55 No, ask the person who called him, he should be the one who should be questioned.
05:58 You know who called him, you must ask him.
06:01 And ask him, why did you call him?
06:03 I heard that you are saying that Ali Amin was there.
06:07 My information is that he was not there.
06:09 I heard that he was there.
06:11 There has been an invitation, some people have come,
06:13 it is true, he was called on Aftari.
06:15 Only Aftari was there.
06:16 Aftari is being held in many other places, many people are being called on Aftari.
06:20 So, sometimes there is a religious demand.
06:22 It is like that, let people do Aftari.
06:24 In the end, tell me, is Zain Qureshi the leader of PTI or not?
06:29 There is a fight in that too, that he should not be the leader.
06:32 What kind of a leader does he want to be?
06:34 Zain Qureshi is nominated.
06:36 And that matter is stuck with the Speaker.
06:39 It is like, two months later, they nominated Umar Ayub yesterday.
06:44 So, it will be a matter of time.
06:46 It will be a matter of time, it will be Zain.
06:48 He is a very competent person.