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00:00 Assalamu Alaikum, welcome to the program.
00:13 The government has been formed and you saw that the first session of the SIFC was held
00:20 in the leadership of our current Prime Minister, Mr. Shabaz Sharif.
00:25 The special thing about this session was that the Chief of Army Staff was also present.
00:36 And because of the economic situation in Pakistan, the big decisions are made by the SIFC
00:44 and from there, all the decisions are made.
00:47 And when this session started, before the session started, the opening remarks were made by Mr. Shabaz Sharif
00:56 with great evidence. Obviously, the economic challenge that is facing Pakistan at the moment was made.
01:02 And along with that, he said that it is very important that we move forward together at this time.
01:08 What he said, we will keep it in front of you.
01:11 [Hindi]
01:25 [Hindi]
01:51 [Hindi]
01:57 And definitely, it is very important for Pakistan and for Pakistanis that they reach their goal and reach it soon.
02:04 Viewers, the question here is that everyone knows that the biggest problem in Pakistan at the moment is economy.
02:12 [Hindi]
02:36 Viewers, the government has been formed and we saw a very good, a very pleasant change.
02:42 The day, the weather in Istanbul was also very good that Khaybar Pakhtunkhwa, the PTI's supporter,
02:48 the Sunni Council's candidate, the Chief Minister Khaybar Pakhtunkhwa, Ali Amin Gandapur Sahib,
02:56 reaches the Prime Minister's office and meets the Prime Minister Shabaz Sharif.
03:03 After the meeting, he comes out and then he does a small press conference.
03:09 During that press conference, Ahsan Iqbal Sahib is present with him, the other ministers are also present with him.
03:16 Ameer Maqam Sahib, who has been elected from KP, from Pakistan Muslim League Noon, is also present.
03:21 And the press talk there is that this is the biggest problem of Pakistan.
03:25 The economy is very weak at the moment.
03:27 So, I have come to mention the problems of my province.
03:31 Okay, he also said that we have reservations about the election results,
03:35 the issues of 47, 45 will be solved, but obviously,
03:39 the people sitting on the windows of the state to run their businesses,
03:44 it is very important for them to sit and meet each other and sit across the table.
03:50 Viewers, when these meetings start, I don't know why, the spoilers come in between.
03:56 Why are they meeting? These PTI people are meeting them and this is the Pakistan People's Party.
04:01 One, the government makes any decision, then they throw a big spanner in front of it.
04:07 Wait, you didn't ask us, how did this happen? How can you do this?
04:11 Now, Faisal Kareem Kundi Sahib, now maybe he is not able to digest the matter,
04:15 he didn't like it, he didn't feel bad, he felt bad, what happened?
04:18 He says, "O Lord, this Khaibar Pakhtunkhwa's chief minister,
04:21 he goes inside and kneels down and comes out and threatens him.
04:24 Let him meet, let the matter go on, listen to Faisal Kareem Kundi Sahib.
04:28 I have seen the minister of Khaibar Pakhtunkhwa, when he comes out, he speaks in a dialogue,
04:33 when he goes inside, he falls at the feet of the minister.
04:35 Yesterday you saw, and before that too, how good a boy he was presented in front of him.
04:39 We say that there should be no confrontation, but the thing should be one.
04:42 When he goes inside, he pleads to the minister, when he comes out, he says,
04:45 "I don't believe in the minister." If you don't believe, then you sit with the minister,
04:48 with your hands tied.
04:50 Viewers, obviously, this is a very big matter.
04:54 Okay, Ghulam Sahin Sahib, obviously, if you want to run the state's business, you have to move forward.
04:59 And to move forward, obviously, the talk of Misaak-e-Mohishad,
05:04 and after that, the opening speech you gave in the National Assembly after your election,
05:11 you also offered Misaak-e-Mufahmad.
05:13 So, what will you say about this? The matters have to be moved forward.
05:19 I think the matters will move forward in this case.
05:23 Because the policy of PTI, the policy of their founding chairman, is the same.
05:28 Whoever roughs them up, sooner or later, they are made to sidelines.
05:33 Their policy is that today, the mandate of February will be implemented.
05:38 Then the matter will move forward.
05:40 Otherwise, I am happy here, you can do whatever you want.
05:45 Okay, Nagvi Sahib, before coming to you, there was an interview with Rana Sinawala Sahib.
05:51 Rana Sinawala Sahib, during that interview, is telling that we are stuck badly.
05:55 And why is he telling that we are stuck badly? Let's listen to his speech.
06:00 The matter is that we are stuck in such a way that we, now, to get out of this,
06:06 I don't say impossible for us, but it is the most difficult.
06:11 That person has been in power for four years.
06:15 He did not shake hands with the opposition in four years.
06:19 He did not find it appropriate to sit and talk.
06:22 That incident with Pulwama, that evening, the entire opposition,
06:27 that committee room, two, of the parliament building,
06:31 was waiting there for an hour and a half.
06:35 Along with that, the walls of the Prime Minister's Chamber are joint.
06:39 Masood was sitting there.
06:42 The army chief also requested him and said,
06:47 "Come, there will be a meeting in your office, we have to brief there."
06:53 He said, "If I go there, I will have to shake hands with them."
06:57 I will not leave them. I will not go there.
07:01 Hasan Ayub Sahib, Bani PTI is present in the jail.
07:07 But now, the party in power,
07:11 has more responsibility to offer an olive branch.
07:15 You have to give a message that the matter should move forward.
07:19 You heard Faisal Karim Gurni Sahib.
07:22 You, Rana Sinhala Sahib, obviously, present a big party there.
07:26 He has lost his election, but he is in Punjab.
07:29 So, who will give a message, why are you stuck?
07:31 You, your government, take steps and move forward.
07:34 The thing is that the political parties sitting together,
07:38 and solving the issues through talks, this is politics.
07:42 The job of politics is not to take out swords and cut each other.
07:46 In politics, you have to sit with each other and find a way forward for the welfare of the people or the welfare of the country.
07:54 Look, there is a lot of trust deficit between them.
07:59 And the reasons for trust deficits are, if you look at the past,
08:04 or if you look at it from after 2014,
08:06 they always had talks, they sat together,
08:10 and after sitting together, one party pulled out.
08:13 So, there is a lack of trust, but still, there is a possibility.
08:17 Political parties can sit together and find a solution to the problem.
08:21 They can make working relations.
08:23 Even after losing their elections, even after being on their own, there should be a working relationship.
08:29 Like, if there is a working relationship between the CM, KP and the Prime Minister,
08:33 then I think Faisal Kareem Kundi should also welcome this.
08:37 The statements they give outside, the statements are not of that much importance.
08:42 The actions matter more, what are their actions.
08:46 If the actions of the PM are such that they are taking them towards conflict, war, and violence,
08:53 then I will also condemn them.
08:55 But if they are constructive actions and if the relationship between the province and the people is improving,
09:01 then I will welcome it.
09:03 Okay, Mr. Haider Nagvi, look at this picture.
09:07 It was appreciated a lot in the whole of Pakistan.
09:10 You can see, in front of you, you can see our Prime Minister, Marjim Sahiba, Murad Ali Shah,
09:17 Ali Meen Gandapur, along with Mukhti.
09:21 So, this is a good message.
09:23 And even before this, when we met, and now, when they are talking about Faisal Kareem Kundi,
09:28 that he goes outside and steps on people's feet.
09:30 Now, I have been watching the Pakistan People's Party since the government came.
09:33 Their attitude is very strange.
09:35 They say, "We are not from there, we are not from here."
09:38 They have to sit somewhere.
09:41 Yes, they have to sit.
09:45 You are absolutely right.
09:46 But now, let's look at the ground realities of all these things,
09:49 Mr. Kundi, Mr. Rana Sanola, SIFC, all of them.
09:53 What do ground realities say?
09:55 Why was the establishment of SIFC brought into action?
09:58 Obviously, investment has to come to Pakistan,
10:00 it has to be brought, it has to run Pakistan.
10:02 This will be its key role.
10:04 But the message given by SIFC and the pictures of yesterday is that
10:08 Pakistan has to unite now.
10:10 And these pictures have been shown to the whole world.
10:12 Especially to those people in the world who want to move forward to help us.
10:17 And these pictures will give a very good message.
10:19 The most important thing under the banner of SIFC is to unite.
10:24 The most important thing, the biggest message is to unite.
10:27 The biggest message is that now unity has to be promoted and this country has to be run forward.
10:31 The politics of protest, see when Imran Khan Sahib was the Prime Minister,
10:35 we respected him as the Prime Minister and as the ruler of the state.
10:39 We respected all the institutions that were under his supervision.
10:43 We bowed our heads in front of his decisions so that the state could continue to run,
10:48 this country should continue to run.
10:49 And now it is time for this state to run, this country to run.
10:52 The politics of protest will not give you anything now.
10:54 The biggest example is Karachi in front of the Pakistanis.
10:57 From 1986 to 2016, these 32 years of Karachi's streets, streets, markets, palaces,
11:05 it was just destruction.
11:07 Either blood was spilled or bullets were fired or arrests were made.
11:10 What did we achieve after that?
11:11 Today, the 32-year struggle of the people of Karachi, of Hyderabad,
11:15 where is that young man standing today?
11:16 That young man went even further than where he was standing.
11:19 So this is a very clear message for the entire Pakistani people
11:24 that they should learn from these 32 years of Karachi and see that the politics of protest
11:29 can never give you any benefit.
11:31 You stand up and say that Sri Lanka will be made, you stand up and say that bomb it,
11:35 you stand up and say that this state will not run, rebel.
11:38 There is nothing in it.
11:40 We want Imran Khan to play an extremely important role in the central politics of Pakistan,
11:45 but for that he will have to show morality, character, friendship, brotherhood,
11:50 loyalty, loyalty, all that he has to show, then Pakistan will move forward.
11:55 My question was basically about the attitude of the People's Party,
11:59 that since this government was formed, onwards...
12:02 I told you in the beginning, Mr. Khabar, that the People's Party will have to change its attitude.
12:06 Now, criticism will have to be freed from criticism, criticism will have to be freed from construction.
12:13 Viewers, Rana Sinawala is obviously a very old politician.
12:17 He understands what kind of turmoil politics will have to sit through in the coming days.
12:22 During this interview, last night he gave a television channel,
12:26 he said a very strange thing, he said, after six months you will see that one side will have to lose.
12:33 How will you have to lose? Listen to his language.
12:37 I am doing this based on experience and the rest you note it.
12:44 In the next six months, I think, in a year, the decision will be made.
12:49 Now, this issue, the country cannot tolerate it any longer.
12:56 Either way, here or there, some decision will be made.
13:01 Then, either way, is it good that Habib Akram asked a question to know more,
13:09 that what is here or there?
13:13 No, what do you mean by either or there?
13:15 The decision here is that there should not be a single party, or the decision there is that there should not be a single party?
13:20 I mean, this is a very, very, you are saying a very harsh thing.
13:23 I said this a year ago, so some friends also objected to it.
13:31 But I am saying that this is Imran Khan's philosophy, that I will not leave anyone.
13:38 If he can do it, then he will not leave anyone, everything will be over.
13:43 If the rest can do it, then it will be over.
13:47 This is his basic thesis.
13:49 With Imran Khan, there will be no political consensus.
13:53 Please note this.
13:55 Okay, Chaudhry Ghulam Sahin, you have heard, you have friends, you know them,
14:01 if you have listened to their statement carefully and tried to understand it,
14:05 that Mr. Rana is saying that with Imran Khan's presence,
14:10 there cannot be a consensus in Pakistan's politics.
14:14 And this issue will be solved in 6 months.
14:17 You, in your own knowledge, on the basis of your experience,
14:21 decipher this for the general public, explain what he is trying to say.
14:26 No, Mr. Khawar, I think that since the fasts have come and today is the 11th,
14:33 you have started to fast more.
14:36 You are not interested in keeping the program in balance.
14:43 No, I am trying.
14:44 What do you want to ask?
14:46 On 8th February, the people who gave the mandate,
14:51 if it had been followed, then would anyone have seen their faces on television?
14:58 Because they have lost.
15:00 They have lost.
15:02 And by losing from their homes, they are giving us a speech.
15:08 And then there is one person, who did this in 1880,
15:12 starts from there, another one starts,
15:15 and that day Imran Khan did this.
15:18 Oh, whatever is happening, answer it or not.
15:22 This is how, it was their job, on the night of 8th February,
15:27 we lost, someone won, let's make it a government.
15:31 You are making the whole world fast for your victory,
15:39 and you will keep doing it, the real work will not come there,
15:43 because you are focused on one thing, not on the other.
15:47 That is, you want to heat up the market of looting,
15:50 eat together, destroy this country together,
15:54 and then you will be able to do it.
15:56 This is your agenda.
15:58 That day, in 1875, this person did this.
16:01 And the other one, he is doing this to this person.
16:05 Chai sahib, there is a lot of argument in your speech,
16:08 but I want to ask,
16:10 that Rana Sinhaullah sahib is talking about giving a time limit of 6 months,
16:14 and within 6 months, we will see if this issue will be cleared.
16:16 I don't understand this.
16:18 How many times has Khan cleared the issue?
16:21 I will end this disorder.
16:24 The people of Swatilalbad, who have finished this,
16:27 now sit at home, hide their faces.
16:30 Even before, there was a big role in the Maritime Saniya.
16:37 Leave that, who are these people fooling?
16:43 It will be over in 6 months.
16:45 Hassan, the Leader of the Opposition has been appointed in Lahore.
16:48 He has given an application in Lahore,
16:51 the Speaker has taken him to Attorney General.
16:54 This is not a problem of the Leader of the Opposition,
16:57 it is a problem of the Parliamentary Leader.
16:59 Listen to me.
17:00 In the Leader of the Opposition House,
17:02 the opposition badges which we have covered,
17:05 he takes the majority sign and goes,
17:07 that I will make him sit on the in-seat.
17:09 So he sits.
17:11 It is good that it has happened in Lahore,
17:13 there is a positive trend,
17:15 so I hope it will happen here too.
17:17 What do you think?
17:19 Basically, Rana Sir is saying that Bani Chairman Tariq-e-Insaaf,
17:23 I have said that there is a lot of trust deficit.
17:26 He is saying that at any time,
17:28 the way of the political parties to talk,
17:31 they sit, they sit together,
17:33 they find a solution to the problem,
17:35 or they establish working relations.
17:38 Although they have their own views,
17:40 they are self-satisfied,
17:42 they are presenting themselves,
17:44 they are condemning their opponents,
17:46 but even then,
17:47 they find a way to work with each other.
17:50 Now, Rana Sir,
17:52 Rana Sanawalla Sir,
17:54 what I have understood,
17:56 he is saying that Imran Khan Sir will not talk about any issue,
17:59 or the other side,
18:01 what he was saying,
18:03 I have understood it,
18:04 and I have learned it from Tariq,
18:06 that you do not deal with the cult.
18:08 You have to smash the cult.
18:10 So this is the cult.
18:12 I am giving an opinion,
18:13 I am not giving any news.
18:14 I am giving an opinion that this is a cult,
18:16 so you will not deal with the cult.
18:18 If the cult remains,
18:20 then it will have to be smashed.
18:22 What is the definition of the cult?
18:24 Do it, do it.
18:25 You have been doing this for two years.
18:27 I have done it.
18:28 I have explained it to him.
18:30 Now, Chaudhary Sir,
18:31 don't get angry.
18:32 You are explaining a lot.
18:34 You are the nation of God.
18:36 Stop it.
18:37 In the past also,
18:38 Rana Sanawalla Sir,
18:39 Haider Nabi Sir,
18:40 they have been giving some statements,
18:42 they have a special love,
18:44 listen to them with Bani PTI.
18:46 The politics of this country
18:48 has been brought there and made to stand,
18:50 that one of the two
18:52 has to remain.
18:54 On this level,
18:55 they have taken the matter,
18:57 now either they will be denied politics,
18:59 or we will be denied.
19:01 Yes, Ravi Sir.
19:02 So then,
19:03 who will give the message of peace and harmony
19:05 to the Aulac branch?
19:07 From whom will it come?
19:08 Then the matters will move forward.
19:10 Look,
19:11 the statements that Rana Sanawalla Sir is giving,
19:13 keep their statements aside,
19:15 now look at the pictures of yesterday.
19:17 In that picture,
19:18 the Army Chief is sitting,
19:19 the Prime Minister of Pakistan is sitting,
19:21 the former government officials are sitting,
19:22 the present government officials are sitting,
19:24 all the ministers are sitting,
19:26 who have a relationship with different political parties.
19:28 So, their message is more important
19:30 than Rana Sanawalla Sir's message,
19:33 what he wants to say.
19:35 Rana Sanawalla Sir,
19:36 as a political activist,
19:37 political leader,
19:38 has the right to speak.
19:40 But if you talk about the importance of the central government,
19:44 then the forum that was held yesterday,
19:46 has more importance for the people of Pakistan.
19:48 And that forum is very confident,
19:50 that this state will also run,
19:52 this country will also run,
19:53 this government will also run.
19:55 Yes.
19:56 Absolutely right.
19:57 Look,
19:58 Ali Muhammad Khan Sir,
19:59 during a program,
20:01 he said that Bani PTI,
20:03 will be released before Eid.
20:06 What he said,
20:08 we will talk about it,
20:09 and his statement during the interview,
20:11 we will tell you after the break.
20:13 Stay with us.
20:14 Welcome back.
20:20 Ali Muhammad Khan Sir is saying that
20:22 it will be released before Eid.
20:24 How long will the decision be made?
20:28 Very soon,
20:29 Inshallah.
20:30 Our lawyers have spoken before Eid-ul-Fidr.
20:32 I pray that Allah will bless their talks.
20:36 And Imran Khan Sir,
20:37 before Eid-ul-Fidr,
20:38 he should come out,
20:39 and sit with us in Bani Gala or Zaman Park.
20:42 It is better if it is Bani Gala,
20:44 because Bani Gala is Khan Sir's secret.
20:46 Yes, you heard,
20:48 he is saying that
20:49 Bani PTI will be released before Eid.
20:52 And after that,
20:54 when they come out,
20:55 the matters will move forward.
20:57 What news do you have?
20:59 What do you think,
21:00 about the cases that are going on?
21:02 Is it possible that all the petitions will be released?
21:05 Ali Muhammad Khan Sir has not said this
21:07 because of the merits of the cases.
21:09 He has said that the YouTubers,
21:12 who have made everyone's minds crazy,
21:15 every day for their views,
21:17 they say that the doors of the jail have opened,
21:20 the captain has been brought out,
21:22 the judge has said this,
21:23 remove this, do this, do that.
21:25 Fear Allah,
21:27 they spread such lies.
21:29 They spread such news without any reason.
21:32 Because of which,
21:33 even serious people,
21:34 Ali Muhammad Khan Sir is a serious man.
21:36 I don't know if he did it on the basis of information.
21:39 What is your assessment?
21:40 There is no such possibility in my assessment.
21:43 The cases are already,
21:45 they are under arrest,
21:46 they are in different cases.
21:47 So, if they get a bill,
21:50 I will give an example,
21:51 when someone's sentence,
21:53 a retrial order is issued for a case,
21:55 even then,
21:56 they should be released.
21:58 So, before Eid,
21:59 even after Eid,
22:00 even after Eid,
22:01 their release is not possible.
22:02 Mr. Jain, what news do you have?
22:04 Do you also think that,
22:05 the other day you said that,
22:07 within a month or so,
22:08 he'll be back,
22:09 and these cases will go to the court.
22:11 I am sure,
22:14 the 8th of February,
22:15 the mandate that people have given,
22:17 you cannot run away from that.
22:19 The gold letter has to be followed,
22:21 and the 45 form has to be followed,
22:24 and that party has collected all the documents,
22:27 and all the documents,
22:28 75 of them have been collected,
22:31 and the rest are being collected,
22:33 and then they will throw the bomb shell,
22:35 and everyone will know.
22:37 Number 2,
22:38 the cases that are filed against Khan,
22:40 2,000 or 15,000,
22:42 or the one that happened in 1890,
22:44 he is also responsible for that,
22:46 and the 9th and 15th cases,
22:50 I am telling you,
22:52 he will be out of jail,
22:54 and he will be back in power.
22:56 It is a matter of time.
22:59 Abdul Rahman Kanju,
23:01 he won the recounting,
23:03 and then the notification of his success,
23:06 has been issued from NA 154,
23:08 what he is saying,
23:10 is practically the opposite of that.
23:12 It was about to be revealed today.
23:15 Mr. Navi, what do you think,
23:17 what do you think,
23:18 that in the last 4-5 days,
23:21 we have seen that he was acquitted in 4-5 cases,
23:24 and the rest of the petitions are filed,
23:25 for his bail,
23:26 so do you see snow melting in the coming days?
23:29 Look, the thing is that snow should melt from both sides,
23:33 there should be more understanding,
23:35 some steps you should step back,
23:36 some steps others should step back,
23:37 this is very important for the country,
23:39 this is the first thing.
23:40 But let me tell you the second thing,
23:41 maybe the courts want to release Imran Khan,
23:43 the state wants to release him,
23:44 wants to release him,
23:45 but there are some people who don't want Imran Khan to be released.
23:48 Who are those people?
23:49 Who are those people?
23:50 Those are the people who meet Imran Khan,
23:52 and come out to the media and give some other statements,
23:54 which increases the misunderstanding,
23:57 and leads to more disagreement.
23:59 So it is very important that those people who are going to meet Imran Khan,
24:02 and come back,
24:03 they should be asked when they will start speaking the truth.
24:06 This is very important.
24:07 This is very important,
24:08 and it is a very good thing,
24:10 I think that all this miscommunication,
24:13 it is important that they should be allowed to come out,
24:15 and all the matters should be discussed.
24:16 I will defer to Haider Naqvi,
24:18 that the way we know Khan sir,
24:20 that is not the case,
24:22 Khan sir is just coming,
24:24 he is meeting,
24:25 and all these talks are happening,
24:26 but today this happened,
24:27 this is not the case.
24:28 No, Khan sir,
24:29 see,
24:30 Khan sir,
24:31 if I use the word,
24:32 then maybe someone will get upset,
24:33 Khan sir is trying very hard,
24:34 that the matters should be better,
24:35 he is requesting to be released,
24:37 you don't know.
24:38 Okay.
24:39 By the way,
24:40 No, no,
24:41 he has sent you a letter,
24:42 on 2000 pages,
24:43 that for God's sake,
24:44 I am going to meet him,
24:45 so that my friend gets upset.
24:46 Okay,
24:47 today,
24:48 today,
24:49 today,
24:50 Bani PTI, when a case was heard on the meeting of a lawyer, and the meeting was that you
24:57 arrange online or arrange a system of the internet and the chief of the investigation, Ajaz Ishaq
25:04 Khan, I was taking the full name, he heard this case, he said that the Supreme Court of
25:10 India has refused to allow Bani PTI to meet online, he has been told, in the Jail Rules,
25:15 that Bani PTI is not allowed to meet online, this was the opinion of the Subedant. In response
25:22 to this, Jai Sahib said that the media came to know that the Prime Minister of Punjab
25:28 has announced online meetings in the Kotlapat Jail. The Prime Minister has also said that
25:33 this is the first Jail in Asia where we are providing this facility. If we can show that
25:38 picture, then show that also for the viewers. Viewers, you are seeing this footage, that
25:43 is the video of the meeting. The Prime Minister was there and he said that he also spoke to
25:48 a few prisoners there, that you see that you will be able to talk about this in the future.
25:53 Okay, referring to this, Jai Sahib said, Justice Ajaz Ishaq Khan Sahib, that the Prime Minister
25:58 said that this is the first Jail in Asia where this facility is available. If Jail Rules
26:03 does not allow, then how did this illegal work start in Kotlapat Lahore Jail? This was
26:08 the opinion of the Subedant Jail authorities. In response, Jail authorities are saying that
26:13 the action of the Prime Minister of Punjab is illegal. They are not saying this, they
26:18 said. You are saying that I cannot act on a court order, reform is needed. Justice
26:23 Ajaz Ishaq said that one government has banned online meetings without reforming in Jail
26:28 Rules. In the second, he himself is speaking proudly. Let this matter be resolved, online
26:33 meetings cannot be allowed. If you say that you cannot do it online, then your joke will
26:38 fly all over the world. We also sat here and talked about the circumstances. So this is
26:43 the whole matter. If you put it in front of you, then to solve this whole communication
26:48 gap, Haider Naqvi Sahib spoke. Now, obviously, everyone makes their own story on it. But
26:53 the Prime Minister of Punjab said that the Jail rules are not allowed. If you say that
26:58 you cannot do it online, then your joke will fly all over the world. If you put it in front
27:03 of you, then to solve this communication gap, Haider Naqvi Sahib spoke. Now, obviously,
27:08 everyone makes their own story on it. Hasan Ayub Sahib was saying that YouTube people
27:13 send their own news, PTI people come from inside, they make their own news, their own
27:18 statements, and nothing happens at the end of the day. I think if the matter of meeting
27:23 is there, then you have to do it. Whatever restrictions are being put in it, the court
27:28 orders are also being blown into the air. Today, I had to go and apologize to the unknown.
27:33 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, sir, please continue. Yes, yes. That is, they should not take such
27:38 steps first. You put one person in jail, what more do you have to do? Your intention
27:43 is that he goes to the next grave, he will go to the next grave, he will go to the next
27:48 grave, he will go to the next grave, he will go to the next grave, he will go to the next
27:53 grave, he will go to the next grave, he will go to the next grave. It is not because of
27:58 your impure intentions. Yes. Let's go, viewers. How many meetings have been done in a year
28:02 since he was arrested? I think Guinness Book of World Records should have a name in it,
28:06 how many meetings have been done and I have seen that of 35 lakh rupees. Arshad Batty
28:10 is a big wrong person. He has eaten desi chicken and mutton, fried in desi ghee. Who is feeding
28:14 him? They are feeding him pocket money, money is coming from wherever. Where is it coming
28:18 from? I don't know who is saving money, is eating government money or some person, he
28:21 should know. He has got a freelancer whose pocket money is super. His eyes are always
28:25 on the other side. What did I spend 35 lakhs on? I can tell you this for sure. I don't
28:29 have information, I can tell you in full detail. If you don't have information, then
28:32 what is the need to talk? He has spent his money in his life, I don't have this information.
28:37 I have never seen anywhere that Bali Chairman Dharikar has put money in his own pocket
28:42 and I am telling you his track record of his whole life. So, the rest is very difficult.
28:46 He has spent 2.5 crores on tyres, you gave him 2.5 crores. No, no. He always keeps an
28:52 eye on other people's pockets. Don't you remember, he has taken 1 crore rupees in
28:56 some meeting in Zaman Park. Chaudhary sir, have you forgotten? Now, the audio leaks
29:01 were being published. Who was giving? His own people were saying that they wanted to
29:05 meet his audio leakers, so they were taking 2 crores. For God's sake, who is taking
29:09 2 crores? He is saying that he doesn't have this information. I don't have this information
29:15 that he has ever spent money in his life. I don't have this information. I am saying
29:19 this. The second part of the hearing today, Chaudhary sir, let's listen to this, this
29:23 was also very interesting. When this whole matter happened, the Justice said that we
29:28 are sitting here and doing drama. Everyone knows what is happening. From where the jail
29:34 officers are getting orders, if I stop coming from there, everything will be over. If 200
29:41 senior civil officers refuse to obey the non-criminal order, the system will be fine. If 200 officers
29:47 do this together, this system will stop. Justice Sardar Isaac said that if the court sends
29:54 200 civil servicemen to jail, it can be better. This barrister, Sher Afzal Marwat was present
30:00 there. He said that until they don't give a 201-point-1 sacrifice, it will remain like
30:07 this. Justice Isaac Khan was giving some remarks. The way Pakistan's civilian bureaucracy
30:12 works, they also don't do their work properly. So, Nagvi sir, all these matters are going
30:18 on in Pakistan's politics. You explain its larger perspective. You said on the first
30:24 day that the bureaucracy will have to be fixed. Why doesn't the bureaucracy stand on its
30:31 feet? Do the legal work of the law. Look, what the judge said, he should have said one
30:38 more thing. Let's start with the court of Pakistan. The condition of the court of Pakistan
30:44 is written on the walls. The second thing, which has caused the most damage to Pakistan
30:50 and whoever has a wise perspective, will testify that I am telling the truth, which has caused
30:57 the most damage to Pakistan, was the slander during the court hearings of these judges
31:03 which was later reported. I don't know whether they said it or not. But the report was that
31:08 the judge said this sentence, the judge said this sentence, the judge said this sentence.
31:12 Those sentences then became the language of the people in Pakistan, which has destroyed
31:17 unity, loyalty, friendship, morality, respect for each other. But I am satisfied with this
31:24 point of yours, Mr. Nagvi, that judges should speak through their judgments, not just give
31:33 statements. Now, what are you talking about other civil servants? They should have explained
31:39 whatever it is. Order should be given, the judge has stopped the court. Order should be
31:43 given. Mr. Marwar said that you saw an order has come here with reference to DC Islamabad,
31:48 so what a big change has come. So if these people are in your view, whoever they are,
31:52 you pass an order with reference to them. But viewers, this is Pakistan's, do you want
31:57 to say anything? If you look at the court numbers, then in the world, I mean, these low
32:02 women are coming, the one who is going to the bottom. Respected Justice Ijaz Ishaq Khan
32:08 Sahib is a very good judge. His father was a very good military lawyer, the top lawyer
32:14 of Pakistan, Sardar Ishaq Sahib. So he knows all the cases. So be brave, you be brave,
32:20 you take the name. You and the rest of the people go behind.
32:24 Viewers, let's go to the break. After the break, we will talk about the appointment of
32:28 opposition. It has been done in one morning. And the rest, you know, it has been 20 days
32:33 since the election. The cabinet has not been formed yet. So we will try to know with
32:38 Mr. Hassan Ayub. He met last night, the CM of Balochistan, how are the affairs going
32:44 there. After the break.
32:46 Welcome back, viewers. As you know, these elections were to be held in 2025. They have
32:56 been postponed. It happened in 2024. The 90-day matter has been postponed. Now this
33:00 is also a routine matter that in any house, whether it is the Subahi or National Assembly,
33:05 the majority party or such a person, the majority of parliamentarians sitting on opposition
33:11 benches, they take their sign and go to the speaker. I am also saying that you are the
33:16 leader of the opposition. So they get a place. Punjab has done a good job today. There Malik
33:21 Sahib, from our side, congratulated him very much. He was the first to do it. I don't
33:26 know, we know from the Centre, what is the news with Nagpi Sahib. We have no news from
33:31 there that who is the leader of the opposition there. No appointment has been made in KP
33:36 yet. Has it been done? No, not yet. And in Balochistan, it has been 20 days. Sir Faraz
33:41 Bugti Sahib is the minister there. And the decision has not yet been made. Hassan did
33:46 not tell us. We have heard that last night his dinner was with him. Bugti Sahib had come
33:51 to the city to meet the SIFC. So what is the reason? Why are you not making it? No, no,
33:56 they will definitely make it. So basically, you know that. How big is the work? Never
34:01 make. No, you see the incident of Gwadar. I have mainly been talking to them about Gwadar.
34:06 And what the CM told me, he told me a very pleasant thing. He said that the courage with
34:11 which our forces fought and the way this attack was carried out, he says that this is the
34:16 ray of hope that Pakistan is in safe hands. And the way our soldiers fought, they gave
34:23 their lives, gave their lives, so he says that this ensures that our efforts are also
34:29 in the development of Pakistan. The efforts of Pakistan have always been at the forefront.
34:35 But the problem is that the politicians have said that it has been 20 days, Kabina is the
34:39 most important province, it has to be handled. They left the inter-military here, did everything.
34:43 The opposition government is there. There, Mustafa Nawaz and his people are sitting together
34:48 and almost the matter is not being completed. No, no, it is happening. It has happened,
34:52 but now they are in the process of sending. What is the news in Karachi? I think the opposition
34:55 has not been appointed yet. I think there is something going on there. It has not happened
34:59 yet. In Karachi, in Brijesan, in the center, wherever these speeches will be made, wherever
35:04 the cabinet will be formed, in the first week of April, all these cabins, all these speeches
35:08 will be made on their offices. Normally, it should have happened on that day.
35:13 Okay, Mr. Chaudhary, Lahore, Punjab has taken the lead. There Malik Ahmed Khan has done it.
35:20 The leader of the opposition there is Mr. Ahmed Khan, MPA from Miyawali, and the deputy
35:29 opposition leader is Muayyaduddin Riaz, Qureshi has done it. So, I think all these supporters
35:36 of PTI are in front of you. Yes, yes, PTI, MP has been there before, Malik Ahmed Khan
35:43 was a child from Miyawali. See, very good things have happened. Now things should move
35:52 towards the process. Yes, yes, I want to know from you what happened? There are very good
35:59 things happening in Lahore. Yes, yes, Mr. Chaudhary.
36:06 When Muhammad Ayub fought for the election for the leader of the house, he lost. At that
36:11 time, he had to appoint the leader of the opposition. Now he is sitting with his hands
36:17 crossed. Why is he sitting? By the way, Sardar Ayyad Sadiq is the third time speaker. He has
36:22 the most experience. I think he is not getting permission from the TAH or the Qaid.
36:27 What is the point of appointing a leader of the opposition? He has to give a speech.
36:32 So, I think it would have been great if he had done it. But viewers, obviously, politics
36:37 is not... That means, Haider Naqvi Sahib, who is coming in the first week, who will
36:42 vote in the Senate. In the Senate elections, no doubt. Viewers, that's all for today.
36:46 InshaAllah, we will meet again on Monday. Allah Hafiz.

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