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00:00 We are recounting. Today, another seat has gone. It's the seat of the Taniwala of Faisalabad, Ali Gauhar Baloch.
00:05 It seems that some issues are similar. And it's been talked about for a long time that some seats will be given to the Muslim League.
00:11 And has this process started? Through recount?
00:14 Sir, get me one too. I mean, if it's being given like this, then I will also stand up for the by-elections. Will you get me one too?
00:22 I am... Why do you want a recount? We are looking at you through Form 47.
00:25 That's what I am saying. I will stand up for the by-elections. After that, you can get me one later.
00:30 I mean, they have been counting since 8th February. They counted till 14th March.
00:35 You are saying that the counting is not right. I am saying that it took them 1.5 months of hard work to count.
00:40 What else do they need?
00:42 You are saying that they count again and again and sometimes they go ahead. What happens?
00:45 That they win for Rs 7000 and lose for Rs 6000. How does it work? How does it happen?
00:49 Persistence. You see, they are counting again and again. They are counting till they don't feel like counting.
00:56 They have counted for 5 weeks. You should appreciate them.
00:59 Okay, so you need to give them credit, not to criticize them.
01:02 Yes, yes, absolutely. You should give them credit. I mean, they counted for 5 weeks for one seat.
01:06 I mean, like in Middle East countries, they tell you in the middle of the night that 99% of the people voted for the President.
01:14 In our country, they counted for 5 weeks for one seat. You should appreciate their hard work.
01:20 You are not doing it. Kashif sir, you have become very cynical. You have become so old while doing this show.
01:27 I agree with you. I should have seen it from this angle. I didn't see it from this angle.
01:33 This is my mistake. I should have seen how hard Karu works.
01:36 He wins by taking 1.17 lakh votes. He has to count 1.17 lakh votes.
01:41 Then he has lost by 1.10 lakh votes. This is 1.02 lakh votes.
01:44 And the Chief Election Commissioner must have kept an eye on him that he has counted for 5 weeks.
01:49 I mean, you are just not appreciating the beauty of this.
01:53 They are counting with their hands.
01:55 Yes, yes, absolutely.
01:56 Amir sir, is this the same process? Are these seats going back to the Noon League?
01:59 The hand you have raised is really the same process.
02:02 We are not used to it. We are used to it. Like Chief Justice Saqib Nisar.
02:06 He said that Imran Khan's recounting is not needed. The election is over.
02:11 Suri has come. He has given a stay. There is no need to recount anything.
02:15 We are sitting here. Come to us. Khosla sir used to say.
02:18 We are used to those judges. We are used to those people who were winning PTI.
02:23 They were winning Khan sir. You know the answer to Khalid Mukbul Siddiqui, right?
02:27 The PTI which he gave in Karachi.
02:29 So, the anger of everyone...
02:30 You are talking about the assembly floor.
02:32 Everyone's anger is on the Election Commission.
02:35 They don't take the name of the actual place.
02:37 Don't take it. Be brave.
02:39 Why should they?
02:40 Why do they do it?
02:42 If he is saying that he is not going. I spoke to him today.
02:45 We have informed him. The press release has come later.
02:47 He is not going anywhere.
02:49 I have told you that.
02:50 And in January... I am saying that he has retired in January 25.
02:53 So, we will have to be patient.
02:55 Or, like the mirror...
02:56 But, after listening to your argument...
02:57 One minute.
02:58 This is what we always argue with you.
02:59 One minute.
03:00 After listening to your argument, it seems that...
03:01 Forgive the mirror.
03:02 If at that time, the wrong was being done right...
03:05 If it is wrong now, then it is justified.
03:07 I give the news.
03:08 I talk about the news.
03:10 And, someone likes it and someone doesn't.
03:12 My argument with you is that...
03:14 When it was accepted in 2018...
03:17 It was accepted.
03:18 They didn't even let us speak.
03:20 They used to praise us.
03:21 That, praise us too.
03:22 And, see...
03:23 No. Give us time.
03:24 No. We were told the same thing at that time.
03:26 So, if you were told the same thing at that time...
03:28 Why are you saying the same thing now?
03:29 Now, I am saying...
03:30 Now, no one has told you to praise.
03:32 You tell us.
03:33 Where?
03:34 No. No one has told me.
03:35 That, praise us.
03:36 You told them.
03:37 You said that you don't talk to them.
03:38 In the last program, you said that you don't talk to them.
03:40 I didn't say directly.
03:41 Don't you have management?
03:42 Yes.
03:43 No. Management says.
03:44 Management says before too.
03:45 Mr. Amar, you know...
03:46 When we talk in Pakistan...
03:47 Pakistan has realities.
03:49 Yes. Realities.
03:50 Now, you have come to the point...
03:51 Listen.
03:52 ...from where I started.
03:53 No. Not at all.
03:54 I am not talking about the realities that you are talking about.
03:55 I am talking about the realities.
03:56 Why? In 2018, there were no realities.
03:57 Were there no pressures?
03:58 Were there no pressures in Pakistan?
04:00 Were there no pressures in 2018?
04:01 Was there no reality in 2018?
04:02 Was there no reality in 2018?
04:03 Some time ago...
04:04 That there was a protest.
04:05 You consider this to be a protest.
04:06 I have not said anything other than this to you.
04:09 I have been talking about this for a long time.
04:11 Mr. Amar, please guide me.
04:13 What is the reason that when there is a protest in 2018,
04:16 you say that there is a protest.
04:18 It is a violation.
04:19 It is wrong.
04:20 And in 2024, you say that this is a protest.
04:22 I am taking Arfa Noor's opinion...
04:24 So, the protest in 1988...
04:26 The protest in 1988...
04:28 You have grown old now.
04:29 ...in 1993, 1997,
04:31 you did not see these protests?
04:32 You did not see the impact of these protests?
04:34 I am telling you what is happening in this country.
04:36 This has always been happening.
04:37 It is wrong.
04:38 So, talk about fixing the system.
04:40 Do not say that this time it was wrong.
04:42 You say...
04:43 I have said this in your program as well.
04:45 That everyone is targeting each other.
04:48 PTI, Sunni Tariq.
04:49 God knows if their names are still there or not.
04:51 We will read the decision of the Peshawar High Court.
04:53 Then we will know.
04:54 I have not read it.
04:55 I have not read the T.V.
04:56 I think the detailed decision has not yet come.
04:57 So, will the members of the Sunni Tariq Council be there or not?
05:00 When there is no party,
05:02 then who did you join?
05:03 No, because of not giving the list.
05:05 No, no, this is what you and I are discussing.
05:07 At least, to the extent of remarks...
05:08 At least, to the extent of remarks...
05:10 The praise that was being given for so many weeks,
05:12 now it is being praised a lot
05:14 that what decision did the Panch Rukmini Bench give?
05:16 You were also raising your voice
05:18 when I was in Barisal Ghor.
05:19 Maybe that was the same.
05:20 For God's sake, give us the Supreme Court.
05:22 What is this 'Minnat Allah'?
05:23 You are a lawyer.
05:24 Go and fight.
05:25 In the last 4.5 minutes,
05:26 you have been in such a bad situation
05:27 when you went to take the ballot.
05:28 And you did not have anyone in the argument.
05:30 Why did you leave MWM and Jamaat-e-Islami
05:32 and went to the party that did not give the list?
05:34 Your lawyers used to say,
05:35 whether we get it or not, they should not give it.
05:37 This is the argument.
05:39 This should be the argument of such big lawyers.
05:41 This is an argument.
05:42 Why?
05:43 I said this before you came.
05:44 There are two laws that are applied.
05:46 One is the Election Act,
05:47 under which you have to give your list
05:49 before a certain date.
05:50 If you do not give it,
05:51 then you will not get the list.
05:52 This is the Election Act.
05:53 The law says that
05:54 according to the list of seats
05:55 you have taken in the general session,
05:57 you will get reserved seats.
06:00 The law is made in front of the law.
06:03 The law is big.
06:05 The law is big.
06:06 When the law did not explain the 62(1)(f)
06:09 and how much punishment is there,
06:10 then Saqib Nisar thought that
06:11 it is the punishment of a lifetime.
06:13 So, it is.
06:14 Now, wait.
06:15 Go to the Supreme Court and fight on this point.
06:17 This is the work of a 'Vukla'.
06:19 Why did you run away from your preparation
06:21 yesterday, Ali Zafar?
06:22 The five Rukni Bench are waiting for you.
06:24 You are saying that you are there.
06:25 I am there.
06:26 What was the priority for you?
06:27 What are you a lawyer for?
06:29 You said that you are not becoming
06:30 the chairman of the party
06:31 because my cases will suffer.
06:32 So, you did not even reach the case.
06:34 You did not have an argument.
06:36 The point is that
06:37 how much was the preparation of PTI?
06:38 For these matters.
06:39 I think they do not have legs to stand on.
06:42 If we see that legally,
06:44 maybe the justice of preparation is weak.
06:49 But I would like to see
06:51 whether these sessions can be given
06:53 against the rules of the law.
06:56 The court can say,
06:58 as was said in the remarks yesterday,
07:00 that we should send him to the parliament again
07:02 for legalization.
07:03 Because a new situation has been created
07:05 on which the law is silent.
07:06 So, it is possible that he will come back to the assembly
07:08 and there will be more legalization in the assembly.
07:11 Let's see what happens.