Metallica Lars Ulrich VS Megadeth Dave Mustaine 1 on 1 Sitdown Interview #Metallica #Megadeth #larsulrich #davemustaine #heavymetal
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00:00 It's difficult for me to comprehend that the only thing that you feel when you look back
00:07 on the last 20 years is rooted in the Metallica thing.
00:15 Okay.
00:16 I'll explain in as simple terms as I can, not to stultify you, but to just make it really
00:24 easy.
00:25 I had nothing.
00:26 Then I had everything.
00:27 Then I had nothing.
00:28 Then I had nothing again.
00:31 And it was okay going from nothing to everything to nothing, but then having someone stand
00:38 on the back of my head and keep me underwater made it even harder for me.
00:44 I've been erased from any involvement.
00:49 The quotes that I was never meant to be in here anyways, I was just filling a spot, I
00:53 was just a temporary guy, I was a fucking loser and a drunk, I got kicked out, all the
00:58 horrible things that were said immediately after my firing.
01:01 I agree, I should have been fired because I was dangerous because of my disease.
01:07 But watching for so many years the band continue to become successful and successful and successful
01:14 and us to never address the way that I was let go.
01:18 My God, Lars, you guys woke me up and said, "You know what?
01:21 You're out."
01:22 And I asked you, "What?
01:23 No warning?"
01:24 I said, "No second chance?"
01:31 And you guys said, "No, go."
01:35 Good God, man, I didn't get a chance.
01:38 And I've lived, and yeah, maybe for some people, you know, 18 years is a long time.
01:45 For me it seems like yesterday.
01:46 I woke up and I look up and I see the guys that I love, that are my extended family.
01:51 God, I remember, all I had was my mom, all I had was you and James.
01:58 We had dreams together and I sold everything to join that dream.
02:05 And then it ended.
02:11 And I agree with you for doing what you did because of the nature of the disease.
02:19 But don't kid yourself.
02:23 I mean, if there was ways to address what was going on, you know, with my problem.
02:38 And who I am sober is totally different from who I am drunk.
02:42 We never gave it a try.
02:44 We never gave it a chance.
02:47 Would it have worked?
02:50 As much as I loved being with you guys, I'm sure it would have.
02:55 And coming down to the part about the violence, you know, if someone, if I was at a party
03:03 and I saw someone hit you again, I'd break his leg again in a second.
03:07 That's just my nature.
03:09 I'm overprotective to the people that I love.
03:14 You know, and every time I see Phil, you know, I feel bad for him.
03:18 But I wasn't going to let him hurt you.
03:22 Who's Phil?
03:23 Sandoval from Armored Saint.
03:25 Don't you remember when he was breaking his leg?
03:27 I don't remember it was him.
03:28 I remember the incident on the road.
03:31 He pushed you down and he hurt you.
03:33 I made sure he didn't hurt you again.
03:38 I didn't fuck with my band members.
03:48 I had this clear vision, which I don't know if I've ever told you, but the night where
03:53 we decided to let you go a couple of days before we let you go and we played some show
03:58 and me and you were just sitting there and I think we were smoking some pot and being
04:03 very mellow and I just remember this clear vision of just being overwhelmed with sadness
04:09 and emotion about what was about to go down literally like eight hours after that.
04:15 Not saying in any way that I was not equally responsible for being part of making that
04:21 decision but at the same time feeling just an overwhelming sadness and guilt because
04:27 I really felt that when all the bullshit went away, a lot of the kind of the boasting and
04:31 the he-man and all that bullshit sort of went away, that you were a really tender person.
04:38 I felt that you had this really tender side to you that I was really attracted to and
04:43 really felt comfortable with.
04:46 I think that's always been there and that's why I think I sought you out.
04:54 I'm not mad at you, Lars.
04:59 I don't want anything from anybody.
05:03 I still have my dreams.
05:06 I'm glad that James is getting help.
05:10 I really am.
05:14 I wish that James was here.
05:17 I wish Cliff was here.
05:18 I wish that James was here.
05:19 I wish Cliff was here.
05:20 I wish Cliff was here.
05:20 I wish Cliff was here.
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