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Host:
- Khawar Ghumman - Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain
Guests:
- Faisal Vawda (Senior Leader)
- Haider Naqvi (Analyst)
- Hassan Ayub Khan (Analyst)
" Aaj Aam Admi Ko Jitni Mehengai Ka Samna Hai Hafta 10 Din Bad Dugni Hogi," Faisal Vawda
"Wazir-e-Dakhla Aisa Shakhs Araha Hai Jo Nah Sirf Border Ki Smuggling...," Hasan Ayub
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Khawar Ghumman - Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain
Guests:
- Faisal Vawda (Senior Leader)
- Haider Naqvi (Analyst)
- Hassan Ayub Khan (Analyst)
" Aaj Aam Admi Ko Jitni Mehengai Ka Samna Hai Hafta 10 Din Bad Dugni Hogi," Faisal Vawda
"Wazir-e-Dakhla Aisa Shakhs Araha Hai Jo Nah Sirf Border Ki Smuggling...," Hasan Ayub
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00:00 Asalam o alikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:12 Tomorrow, a new president is going to be elected in Pakistan.
00:16 Dr. Arif Alvi, the outgoing president, has taken the God of Honor.
00:20 The information is that he has vacated the presidency.
00:24 The number game is that Asif Ali Daddari is going to be the president of Pakistan.
00:32 We are seeing that the Parliament is also having a special session.
00:38 Peshawar High Court has issued a stay order.
00:42 If the stay order is over, the two-thirds majority of the current coalition will be with them.
00:49 The new coalition government has a comfortable majority.
01:01 The majority will be with them and they will be able to spend their five years in peace.
01:06 But a person who has a lot of access to information is continuously saying that he does not understand.
01:16 The PDM2 government is also giving the name of PDM2 Pro Max.
01:22 Will it be able to fulfill its term?
01:25 I was listening to him the other day. He said that he had an idea that he would do it for two years.
01:32 But now it seems that this government will end in less time than that.
01:36 Why is he saying this?
01:38 We are seeing that Nawaz Sharif is going to be the next president.
01:49 He is also getting coverage on the media.
01:55 He is also saying that he is going to be Usman Gujdar II.
02:00 Why is he saying this? We have a lot of questions for him.
02:05 Faisal Wada is with us. This is the last show of the week.
02:08 We thought we would talk to him.
02:10 We know that the new game of politics is a reality.
02:14 There is no problem according to the number game.
02:19 Thank you very much, Faisal Wada.
02:21 Why do you make the country in an uncertain situation?
02:26 The government will end. They will not be able to manage the economy.
02:36 They will not be able to do anything.
02:41 Thank you very much, Mr. Gomes.
02:43 I am very clear, categorical and critical.
02:48 I wanted Allah to make a way for Pakistan to progress.
02:55 There is no question.
02:57 The government was very interested in playing democracy.
03:08 The dollar was in control.
03:12 The prices were in control.
03:14 The smuggling chief was stopped.
03:16 The dollar was curtailed.
03:18 The businessmen were thinking of doing business.
03:25 The government gave the dollar to the people.
03:29 Today's program is a part of the record.
03:34 The prices of food and water for the poor will be doubled in the next show.
03:44 The competence will be seen there.
03:48 The IMF structure is not on the table.
03:51 There is no way to pay 24 billion.
03:53 There is destruction in Gwadar.
03:55 You can't see any star plus or Einstein.
04:00 The new chief minister is also checking.
04:03 The army is doing the same things there.
04:09 We should appreciate them.
04:14 We should not criticize them.
04:18 You have done badrabad.
04:23 What relief have you given to the people?
04:29 What did you give in the last 35 years?
04:32 How will you give the ride?
04:35 You should have done it earlier.
04:39 We gave you the news 6 months ago.
04:46 You said that the IMF will vote.
04:49 We told you before.
04:52 We told you before.
04:56 It is an unpopular statement.
04:58 There will be a storm in the events of 9th May.
05:03 The era of CMKPK has started.
05:08 If you tell me that the army needs amendments in the act, it will be done.
05:15 The news is coming.
05:17 Things will be on the throttle.
05:21 You should not tolerate this.
05:28 How long are you giving the government?
05:30 I am there for 1.5 years.
05:34 If there is a miracle, then 2 years.
05:38 Maybe.
05:40 But the progress I have seen in the last 7 days,
05:43 and the condition of star plus,
05:46 and the performance of Bazaar 2,
05:50 and the performance of Einstein,
05:54 they are congratulating themselves for being elected as opposition leader.
05:59 This confusion is a social pressure on you.
06:05 Perform.
06:07 If you perform, we will put you on the head.
06:09 If you don't perform, the government will be pushed.
06:14 I will take a quick comment from the panelists.
06:22 From Karachi, Ayub.
06:25 Nagendra, you have been given a statement by Wada.
06:31 Do you have a comment on it?
06:33 If you have any questions, please tell us.
06:35 We will ask them again after the round is over.
06:37 Wada is a very respectable person.
06:43 I have said this before, but I do not agree with his theory.
06:46 Wada said that the 90 free people will be removed from the 30-35 free people.
06:52 They are still there.
06:54 Wada's other predictions are that the assembly will not run for 5 years.
06:58 I can tell you that this government will run for 5 years.
07:01 And this government will complete its 5 years.
07:03 This was a small answer to this.
07:06 The question I want to ask Wada, which is a very important question,
07:09 and the answer to which the Pakistani people want to know,
07:11 was from the deputy minister of water resources.
07:14 In 2018, India started building the Shahpur dam.
07:20 Shahpur-Qatari.
07:21 So why did their government not stop it?
07:24 In 2014, India also started building the Shahpur-Qatari dam,
07:27 but the Nawaz Sharif government stopped it.
07:30 Because under the Indus water treaty, which was signed in 1960,
07:33 India cannot build such a dam.
07:37 And the 15% water that Ravi had to get,
07:40 has stopped getting after the Shahpur-Qatari dam.
07:43 And in the next few years, Lahore will be in the same condition as Karachi.
07:47 Lahore will be dry.
07:49 So what measures did Faisal Wada take as deputy minister?
07:52 I would like to know.
07:53 I am sure he must have taken very good measures.
07:56 Yes, let's go around.
08:00 Mr. Chaudhary Gulamshahan.
08:03 Do you want to answer this in the news?
08:05 Yes, of course.
08:06 How can we let him know that you are here?
08:08 I have written your name.
08:10 Mr. Chaudhary Gulamshahan, you have heard Faisal Wada's comment.
08:13 Please comment on it.
08:15 And if you have any questions, please do so.
08:19 No, he has given his own opinion.
08:22 He has not justified it.
08:25 On one hand, he says that the art firm has done a good job.
08:29 The PTI has lost.
08:31 It's funeral has been held.
08:33 He is getting Ali Ameen punished.
08:35 And he is getting the rest hanged.
08:37 On one hand, he is doing this.
08:39 On the other hand, he says that those who have come, they will not be allowed to walk.
08:42 So what does he want to say?
08:44 What does he want?
08:45 Because a lot of his words have been proven right.
08:48 But it is not digested yet.
08:50 And number two.
08:52 When you will grind the people in the mill,
08:56 and there will be no relief for them.
08:58 And no positive indication of any kind has been made by this government.
09:04 Under the leadership of Shahbaz Shaheen.
09:06 He has not given anything yet.
09:08 Neither his agenda, nor his program.
09:11 "Ma Swahe Phailo Phailo, Maara Maari, Aaniya Jaaniya"
09:15 There is nothing other than this.
09:17 And secondly, "Buzdaar" was the worst choice.
09:20 I have held this position from day one.
09:23 I don't think that Mariam will prove that worse.
09:27 Let's see.
09:29 Shahbaz Sharif, let them make a cabin.
09:32 If the cabin is made, then we will see their performance.
09:35 They are making a cabin.
09:37 No, no, let them make it.
09:39 Look, about Mariam Nawaz,
09:41 the way she is working, and the way she is working.
09:45 Like you said, she has never been to Sargodha or Gujranwala.
09:49 She is not just doing photo sessions,
09:52 she is actually working on the ground.
09:54 And secondly, the biggest thing that I am happy about,
09:57 and I have come to know about it last night,
10:01 is that Mariam is not giving preference to her personal interests over her merit.
10:06 She is bringing up her merit.
10:08 So this is a very rare thing, a very good thing.
10:11 Actually, that thing will be discussed in a few days.
10:14 We will discuss it.
10:16 And then we will give a reference to it,
10:18 that the day we mentioned it,
10:20 if Mariam had to make a sacrifice,
10:23 she is ready to sacrifice her politics for her merit.
10:28 This is one thing about Mariam,
10:30 which I have not seen in any other politician.
10:32 As far as strictness is concerned,
10:36 strictness will be very high.
10:38 The system at this time,
10:41 its tolerance has now been abolished.
10:44 The tolerance of the system has been abolished,
10:47 and whoever tries to take the law in their hands,
10:50 and tries to express it in a macho way,
10:53 will be dealt with with the same hands.
10:56 Because of this,
10:57 a loyal minister is coming,
11:00 who will not only control the smuggling of dollars on the border,
11:05 but also such dramas,
11:09 which he wants to do,
11:11 which he wants to put on a political stage,
11:14 he also has to be prepared.
11:17 In the coming days,
11:20 I had also spoken in the program yesterday,
11:22 I had given advice to the Prime Minister,
11:24 you may remember.
11:25 I have been asking this for a year,
11:27 what has he done to this person?
11:29 And as far as you talk,
11:31 the 90 free people,
11:35 who were mother-father free,
11:37 those mother-father free people,
11:39 have been given the freedom to stay free by choice,
11:42 it was not their choice that they went,
11:44 it was their choice that they switched sides.
11:47 The deck is quite heavy for you.
11:48 First of all, the Shahpur Katari Dam.
11:51 Should I start?
11:53 Yes, you can start.
11:54 We had also got a medal from Mr. Nakvi,
11:57 No, we are getting it on the 23rd.
11:59 Congratulations.
12:00 One thing is that,
12:01 I have not understood yet,
12:03 that he is an analyst,
12:05 he is a critic,
12:06 because he sometimes does a presentation of the People's Party,
12:09 his praise and compliments.
12:11 It is your opinion.
12:12 No, today he is doing it with a smile.
12:14 Number one.
12:15 Number two is that,
12:16 with respect,
12:17 I was the federal minister of water resource,
12:20 I don't know how much knowledge Mr. Nakvi has,
12:23 he must have more than me, 100%.
12:25 I said, did you do the steps?
12:26 He said, no, I did not come to give any interview to the Prime Minister.
12:29 So I don't think it is a relevant question for me to answer.
12:32 What I have done,
12:34 good or bad,
12:35 I have done wrong,
12:36 it is in the files,
12:37 you can take it out and bring it.
12:39 So that is irrelevant for me.
12:41 The third thing is that,
12:43 Mr. Nakvi, let him answer,
12:45 you have asked the question,
12:47 you can respond.
12:49 Respond to Faisal Bauda,
12:51 and he will give you a complete opportunity.
12:53 The second thing is that,
12:55 we are here to talk about the current affairs.
12:57 He told me that my analysis has gone wrong,
13:00 it was wrong,
13:01 there were 90,
13:02 they did not go anywhere.
13:03 So my 200 points,
13:05 or 200 things have been corrected.
13:07 There is a delay in one point.
13:09 90 people,
13:11 by choice, have not been bought yet.
13:13 90 people have not been given yet,
13:15 that time will come very soon,
13:17 you will get the figure of 30-35 people,
13:19 and I will remind you on your show,
13:21 Mr. Guman, please take out my clip.
13:23 So there is no need now,
13:25 the negotiation is on the back burner,
13:27 when there is a need, we will bring it.
13:29 The important point that Mr. Chaudhary Gulam Sain has raised is that,
13:31 those who have come,
13:33 they do not want to go,
13:35 and the other party,
13:37 the KP people,
13:39 so how will the system move forward,
13:41 or the current system,
13:43 how will it move forward?
13:45 Look, Mr. Guman,
13:47 first of all,
13:49 this country needed,
13:51 as a suggestion,
13:53 the presidential form of government,
13:55 which is not possible.
13:57 Secondly, you had a way,
13:59 that you could bring good faces from these political parties,
14:01 people would digest,
14:03 like you did to the caretaker.
14:05 You did not let her go out for a walk,
14:07 but you reduced the unrest.
14:09 It stopped.
14:11 Those who have to read at 6,
14:13 and at 7,
14:15 they read at 9,
14:17 we have brought democracy.
14:19 Democracy was killed in Punjab,
14:21 and the elections were not held in KP,
14:23 they have not been punished yet,
14:25 half the cabinet will be blown away.
14:27 Thirdly, in the 8th February elections,
14:29 Mr. Chaudhary, who is my teacher,
14:31 I told him,
14:33 these are the numbers,
14:35 this result will come,
14:37 and Azad will dominate all this.
14:39 That has happened.
14:41 Now, the 9th February incident,
14:43 there is PTI, Malawis, Noon,
14:45 People's Party,
14:47 whatever steps they will take,
14:49 they will have to be punished.
14:51 It cannot be that as a punishment,
14:53 a theft took place in Mr. Guman's house,
14:55 and Faisal Wadhaq will sit here and make the decision.
14:57 The army was organized,
14:59 their institutions were blown away,
15:01 and they will know.
15:03 Those who raised slogans,
15:05 should go to the conventional courts,
15:07 take their trial there,
15:09 divide them,
15:11 we expect this from the state,
15:13 the state is the mother of the state,
15:15 but it is not that you can tear the state's heart,
15:17 and the state will sit quietly.
15:19 So now, if we are listening to the unrest,
15:21 to put our emotions,
15:23 to take governorship,
15:25 to take ministries,
15:27 that we will come to the streets,
15:29 and we will have to take our own path.
15:31 You should take your own path.
15:33 As you said about Mariam Sahiba,
15:35 Hassan, why are you so sceptical?
15:37 She is trying her level best to prove
15:39 that she can go on,
15:41 her family has such a long and vast experience,
15:43 her father was the Prime Minister three times,
15:45 once the Chief Minister,
15:47 her uncle was the Chief Minister three times,
15:49 her cousin was the Chief Minister,
15:51 they have seen,
15:53 since they have taken control,
15:55 especially in politics,
15:57 they have seen the governance,
15:59 so why are you saying that
16:01 Usman Buzard will be proven.
16:03 Look, Mr. Governor,
16:05 if you talk about her personality,
16:07 Mariam Nawaz Sahiba,
16:09 she is respectable for me,
16:11 she is my sister's place,
16:13 so we are doing CM vs CM comparison,
16:15 politics vs politics,
16:17 so I have no personal fight with her,
16:19 as a respect, she is my sister's place,
16:21 but when you talk about politics with me,
16:23 so naturally she is a very simple woman,
16:25 you know her properties,
16:27 neither in Pakistan nor in the world,
16:29 that interview is very famous,
16:31 she has seen her simplicity and poverty very closely,
16:33 so she will take action,
16:35 but my point is,
16:37 you say that our political party
16:39 will take away our freedom,
16:41 the country is not free,
16:43 it is in debt,
16:45 you are joking with this country,
16:47 you are free first,
16:49 then talk about taking freedom,
16:51 you are not free and you are talking about freedom,
16:53 you are not free,
16:55 but you are stamping your father,
16:57 what category is your father?
16:59 Is he a Prime Minister?
17:01 What is he?
17:03 He is a Chief Minister,
17:05 in which account are you putting up the picture?
17:07 After that you are saying that
17:09 I am ruthless,
17:11 your frame of sets are ruthless,
17:13 my frame of sets are worthless,
17:15 so this comparison is to be done by the nation,
17:17 that I am calling someone worthless,
17:19 you are calling someone ruthless,
17:21 this is to be decided by the nation,
17:23 tell me a price,
17:25 you went to school,
17:27 these optics were 20 years old,
17:29 now they are not working,
17:31 this film is not going to work,
17:33 you went to the police station,
17:35 suddenly Shahbaz Ali IG is present there,
17:37 you went to school,
17:39 before that your seat was vacant,
17:41 these social media people are not mad,
17:43 people like us are not blind,
17:45 you are saying that to see the drama of the nation,
17:47 I should become blind, deaf and dumb,
17:49 I will keep on calling people,
17:51 I have got this position from your support,
17:53 the nation has given me a place,
17:55 it is the mercy of Allah,
17:57 till I call people I will keep on telling the truth,
17:59 whether you like it or not,
18:01 whether you are popular or not.
18:03 Let's go to a break,
18:05 after the break we will talk,
18:07 tomorrow Sardar Teem Khabat is going to be there,
18:09 and it is quite obvious,
18:11 it is a foregone conclusion,
18:13 that Asif Ali Zardari is going to be the President of Pakistan,
18:15 you must remember,
18:17 when he became the President of Pakistan in 2008,
18:19 at that time he was the President of the Pakistan People's Party,
18:21 Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani was the Prime Minister,
18:23 after that for some time,
18:25 for 13-14 months,
18:27 Raja Parvez Ashraf was also the Prime Minister,
18:29 so all the governance models,
18:31 the order was of Zardari,
18:33 now because
18:35 Mr. Shahbaz Sharif will be present,
18:37 the position of the President will be with Asif Ali Zardari,
18:39 so this is a very
18:41 great model,
18:43 an extraordinary model is going to be made in front of us,
18:45 how will it go ahead,
18:47 we will try to find out from our panelists,
18:49 and from Faisal Wada Sahib,
18:51 that this new model,
18:53 will it benefit the country or the nation,
18:55 or will the same politics be present in front of us,
18:57 at the end of the day,
18:59 the poor Pakistanis will keep on suffering,
19:01 and we will sit on the television,
19:03 and will keep on ruining the politics,
19:05 and this drama will be seen by the people of Pakistan,
19:07 stay with us, Sardar Teem Khabat.
19:09 Welcome back viewers,
19:11 I am with a different media house,
19:13 I used to work in a different media house,
19:15 in an English newspaper,
19:17 I used to cover the Prime Minister's office,
19:19 and at that time we saw that the model,
19:21 even though the Prime Minister was present,
19:23 Yusuf Zaghrani Sahib,
19:25 but after the martyrdom of Benazir Bhutto,
19:27 the all-powerful leader,
19:29 at that time it was Asif Ali Zardari,
19:31 who became the President of Pakistan,
19:33 so obviously the orders that came from above,
19:35 like the party is going to run,
19:37 like you know that the government is going to run,
19:39 Asif Ali Zardari Sahib used to see the whole matter.
19:41 Now a new model is coming in Pakistan,
19:43 now in that,
19:45 the President of the Pakistan People's Party will be present,
19:47 Asif Ali Zardari Sahib,
19:49 and Respected Shabbah Sharif Sahib,
19:51 Zahra, he has been elected as the Prime Minister of Pakistan,
19:53 he is fully independent under the parliamentary system,
19:55 and will take his cabinet forward.
19:57 Now how will this model run?
19:59 We forget, viewers,
20:01 that is obvious,
20:03 the politics is being discussed,
20:05 how Respected Shabbah Sharif Sahib used to give statements,
20:07 Asif Ali Zardari Sahib's statements,
20:09 and the people's party's statements,
20:11 whatever he used to say,
20:13 Mr. Wadah, this is a different kind of,
20:15 I mean,
20:17 for me, a very unique kind of model,
20:19 which is going to be seen by the state of Pakistan from tomorrow,
20:21 the people of Pakistan,
20:23 in your opinion,
20:25 the presence of Asif Ali Zardari Sahib,
20:27 as the President of Pakistan,
20:29 how will it affect the politics of Pakistan,
20:31 the circumstances in Pakistan,
20:33 which you have mentioned,
20:35 that there is no improvement,
20:37 so what will happen to that?
20:39 Mr. Bangu,
20:41 Mr. Zardari's
20:43 becoming the President of Pakistan,
20:45 and taking the primary office,
20:47 is very significant,
20:49 that he will put pressure on Einstein,
20:51 will take him,
20:53 then will push him,
20:55 and eventually will push him.
20:57 You are talking very important.
20:59 So you,
21:01 Mr. Wadah, you are saying,
21:03 if I explain to the people,
21:05 that the strings that will be pulled,
21:07 by Mr. Zardari,
21:09 and Mr. Zardari,
21:11 will also be the last one to
21:13 be slapped,
21:15 write it down,
21:17 and you cannot minus
21:19 People's Party in the longer run,
21:21 in the game.
21:23 I am giving you this signal today.
21:25 We will keep doing this in Ramadan,
21:27 its bifurcation,
21:29 but I am telling you this
21:31 because this is what I analyse,
21:33 this is what I see.
21:35 People's Party will also keep strings,
21:37 will take something more during
21:39 the negotiations of IMS,
21:41 will be a little stabilised,
21:43 then will come to Punjab,
21:45 then there will be negotiations during the budget,
21:47 so push and pull will continue,
21:49 and in the end, it will be pushed,
21:51 and it will be slapped.
21:53 This is eventually the name of the game,
21:55 which is real politics.
21:57 But having said that,
21:59 at that time we can say that,
22:01 you may remember,
22:03 I gave Mr. Imran Khan some advice,
22:05 when we were going to form a coalition government,
22:07 to join hands with People's Party,
22:09 and not take small parties,
22:11 so that there is no headache.
22:13 And they did not listen to me.
22:15 So I am still of the opinion.
22:17 The second thing is,
22:19 when it comes to
22:21 economical reforms,
22:23 when it comes to rescheduling of 24 billion,
22:25 someone will give money to their faces,
22:27 and reschedule it by giving it to them.
22:29 Why don't we tell the truth to the people?
22:31 Why are we afraid?
22:33 We will give it to the face of the chief.
22:35 People in the international world,
22:37 trust the chief.
22:39 The common people also trust the chief.
22:41 He is a honest, honest man.
22:43 Even in our time,
22:45 the chief used to bring money.
22:47 But this chief cannot be compared
22:49 to any other chief,
22:51 because he is a good, honest man,
22:53 with a spotless career.
22:55 And we will see his face.
22:57 Why are we afraid?
22:59 You have done this democratic drama,
23:01 which made it compulsory.
23:03 But at the end of the day,
23:05 what you are doing,
23:07 I told you about the prices,
23:09 about the dollar,
23:11 you can write about it today.
23:13 The dollar has increased,
23:15 so has the petrol,
23:17 and the common goods.
23:19 So what are you giving to the poor?
23:21 Neither is he getting food,
23:23 nor will he be able to eat
23:25 because he has to eat chole.
23:27 You have to eat chole.
23:29 So I was buying the remaining channa.
23:31 I was buying the remaining channa,
23:33 and I saw carefully,
23:35 that there is no form 45.
23:37 I remembered that after Faisal Abadda.
23:39 I told him to see,
23:41 which chapter you have come out of.
23:43 Mr. Gopal, I will give you a very quick comparison.
23:45 We have created a drama
23:47 without any reason.
23:49 18, 13 and 24.
23:51 All the things are the same.
23:53 You are talking about 2002.
23:55 When you were with him,
23:57 you brought Imran Khan with a pench.
23:59 Come on, come on.
24:01 I am saying that
24:03 the analysis that Faisal Abadda has done,
24:05 that a time will come
24:07 when he will be pushed.
24:09 He is putting a lid on it,
24:11 and he will push.
24:13 Look, in politics,
24:15 there is no end to it.
24:17 It is possible.
24:19 It is not necessary that
24:21 Shahbaz Sharif is our Prime Minister.
24:23 In Punjab,
24:25 Mariam Nawaz is saying that
24:27 I am the chief minister of
24:29 the Muslim League Nawaz,
24:31 and I am the chief minister of
24:33 the People's Party and PTA.
24:35 So, this is politics.
24:37 Sometimes there will be ups and downs in politics.
24:39 But apparently,
24:41 I don't agree with what he is saying
24:43 that this system will not work at all.
24:45 And secondly,
24:47 he is saying that the army chief
24:49 will be rescheduled.
24:51 It is possible
24:53 that he will be rescheduled.
24:55 He has already played a role.
24:57 He will play a role in the future.
24:59 And the SIFC is also a binding force.
25:01 And as he is saying,
25:03 there were many people
25:05 from the Nigrand government
25:07 who worked.
25:09 They did not become the milk and honey,
25:11 but they worked better
25:13 comparatively.
25:15 I am seeing Jalil Abbas Jalani
25:17 and other people going.
25:19 So, I think some people
25:21 from the caretakers will also be rescheduled.
25:23 Mr. Ghulamshan, you had spoken the other day
25:25 and I will repeat it.
25:27 You said that there is a possibility
25:29 that the People's Party and PTI
25:31 will not get along.
25:33 So, Faisal Wada did not say so many words
25:35 but it seems that
25:37 such a scene will be created.
25:39 So, your comment on what Faisal Wada
25:41 said. Yes, Mr. Chaudhary.
25:43 No, I have said it before
25:45 and I will say it again.
25:47 At any time, PTI will say
25:49 that the People's Party
25:51 should form a government. We have no objection.
25:53 So, the comment that Faisal Wada
25:55 has made on this,
25:57 I will go to Mr. Naki.
25:59 But my problem is different.
26:01 I say, whether it is Faisal Wada
26:03 or you three,
26:05 tell me what are you doing
26:07 with the two meals of a poor man?
26:09 And was he
26:11 suffering from any illness
26:13 or was he drowning in the sea?
26:15 Because I don't see
26:17 any plan from you.
26:19 These rats,
26:21 who have gone to the children's school,
26:23 have come there, have gone here,
26:25 I am doing this, I am doing that.
26:27 It will not take us anywhere.
26:29 You will have to give a concrete
26:31 program, an agenda
26:33 that we will create
26:35 these resources from here
26:37 and they will target the common people.
26:39 So, you have nothing.
26:41 We still don't know
26:43 what Mr. Sahakdar
26:45 did, why he was removed.
26:47 Let him be.
26:49 There is a possibility that
26:51 he may become the finance minister.
26:53 Foreign minister.
26:55 Mr. Naki,
26:57 what I have understood is that
26:59 in the coming days,
27:01 there is every possibility
27:03 according to Faisal Wada
27:05 that when the People's Party
27:07 will handle all these issues,
27:09 then they will pull the strings
27:11 of the issue
27:13 as they wish.
27:15 And then there will be Einstein
27:17 in front of you,
27:19 he will tell you the sorts.
27:21 Then I will come to you
27:23 to take your comment.
27:25 What comments has Mr. Asif Ali Dadari
27:27 made about Einstein?
27:29 As Mr. Shahbaz Sharif said,
27:31 the Prime Minister has said
27:33 that the challenges are difficult.
27:35 But Einstein
27:37 was not afraid of difficult challenges.
27:39 So, Shahbaz Sharif
27:41 will not be afraid of difficult challenges.
27:43 And we will stand behind him.
27:45 If we need anything,
27:47 we will give our support.
27:49 We will give electoral
27:51 and otherwise help.
27:53 And we will give international
27:55 help to him.
27:57 Yes, Mr. Nagbi.
27:59 Yes,
28:01 now give me two minutes.
28:03 I will answer.
28:05 First of all, I would like to tell Faisal Bhai
28:07 that I am a critic
28:09 and I am the biggest
28:11 apologist of the special sessions
28:13 of Pakistan's movement for justice.
28:15 This testimony is present in this show.
28:17 Absolutely right.
28:19 Secondly, I would like to say that
28:21 Mr. Asif Ali Dadari,
28:23 there is going to be a great blessing
28:25 on Pakistan that he is becoming
28:27 the President of Pakistan. Why?
28:29 When he became President in 2008,
28:31 where was Pakistan standing?
28:33 He united everyone.
28:35 And he will unite everyone again.
28:37 Whether they are opposition or government.
28:39 Mr. Asif Ali Dadari has done a great favor
28:41 on Pakistan. He gave all the powers to the Assembly.
28:43 He gave the 18th amendment,
28:45 NFC, started the rights of Balochistan,
28:47 gave the name to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
28:49 And this is a very big
28:51 task for a President
28:53 considering the situation of Pakistan.
28:55 Thirdly, what Faisal Wada Bhai
28:57 was saying that the Assembly will be over
28:59 or the government will be over.
29:01 Why will the government not be over?
29:03 I will give a technical answer.
29:05 In Punjab, there is a government of Muslim League Noon.
29:07 In Sindh, there is a People's Party.
29:09 In Balochistan, there is a People's Party.
29:11 And in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
29:13 there is a Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
29:15 or Sunni Council, whatever name you want to give it.
29:17 So, in the government,
29:19 all of them are stakeholders or beneficiaries.
29:21 They will never let the central government be over
29:23 because all of them are its stakeholders
29:25 and beneficiaries.
29:27 Okay, viewers, the discussion that is taking place
29:29 is that Mr. Naqvi is saying
29:31 that when Mr. Zardari
29:33 becomes the President of Pakistan tomorrow,
29:35 it will be a great blessing and he will
29:37 run the system. But when I see
29:39 and listen to him, then I also think
29:41 of Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
29:43 What will be his role?
29:45 Obviously, you will remember
29:47 when this parliamentary schedule was going on
29:49 a day before, the news
29:51 that was published in all the newspapers.
29:53 So, Mr. Naqvi, you know
29:55 that it takes time to turn the page.
29:57 After this, we will talk
29:59 to Mr. Faisal Wada.
30:01 Welcome back. Mr. Wada,
30:05 I have already given you
30:07 the assessment of Mr. Naqvi.
30:09 But along with that,
30:11 there is the matter of Farm 45.
30:13 The Farm 45 people are also saying
30:15 that they are going to call their separate meeting
30:17 in Lahore. And in Vafag,
30:19 they are also saying that they will call their
30:21 parliamentary party meeting of Farm 45 separately.
30:23 Okay, this is aside.
30:25 Now, this is what I had
30:27 said in the beginning that
30:29 it seems very solid.
30:31 That you have a comfortable majority
30:33 in the National Assembly.
30:35 The thing is that what Mr. Naqvi
30:37 is saying is fine in this regard.
30:39 But what you are saying,
30:41 the movement people's party ...
30:43 Hey, say Haider Naqvi fully.
30:45 Haider Naqvi. Yes.
30:47 Jawaharlal Nehru.
30:49 Thank you, sir. Thank you.
30:51 So, what Haider Naqvi is saying,
30:53 Faisal Wardar Singh,
30:55 is that
30:57 this will not happen.
30:59 It will not happen because Mr. Zardari
31:01 also has stakes. And in the system,
31:03 he has so many stakes that he will not ...
31:05 If every Jamaat has stakes, then no one will let
31:07 this system go. We will not go to elections.
31:09 Look, listen to me. First of all,
31:11 what Mr. Zardari said as
31:13 President, there is no doubt about it,
31:15 that at a critical time
31:17 when BB was martyred,
31:19 he made a very sensible
31:21 slogan
31:23 of Pakistan Khapa.
31:25 He should be given credit for that.
31:27 He should be given credit for that.
31:29 BB was martyred, his children's mother
31:31 passed away, and Pakistan had a huge
31:33 loss. In that, he could have taken
31:35 aggressive stance. He could have
31:37 talked about burning houses. So,
31:39 that is a credit of Mr. Zardari of Pakistan.
31:41 One must appreciate. No doubt.
31:43 He did a very good job with
31:45 a lot of foresight.
31:47 He has a quality that he takes it and goes.
31:49 But he also has a quality
31:51 that when he squeezes water out of a sponge,
31:53 he throws it away.
31:55 So, if there is no election,
31:57 this possibility can happen.
31:59 But you are telling me that this
32:01 old tradition will continue. This is not a possibility.
32:03 This old tradition will bring
32:05 some other tradition in this same cabinet,
32:07 in this same centre,
32:09 in this same mandir. This is a possibility.
32:11 So, I am saying again and again
32:13 that my emphasis is definitely on elections.
32:15 But my consensus is that
32:17 this system, this federation,
32:19 Einstein and Buzdar 2,
32:21 this will not work.
32:23 This will not work in any way.
32:25 You can put me in a gun,
32:27 I will not let it work.
32:29 I will tell you the reason for that, sir.
32:31 The thing that Ghulam Hussain Chauhi
32:33 has said, I do not care.
32:35 You can run Buzdar 2,
32:37 Buzdar 1, Minus Buzdar,
32:39 run Einstein, and Mr. Zardari
32:41 has taken very fine steps.
32:43 The way I consider him as a saint,
32:45 Einstein was not scared.
32:47 Mr. Shabaz will not be scared.
32:49 He has blown the light
32:51 in between the comparison.
32:53 And he said, when we will give
32:55 the need of force,
32:57 I am saying that we will take
32:59 the need of force.
33:01 What will you do for the 445 people?
33:03 For the 445 people,
33:05 the advice I gave you,
33:07 they should eat chole.
33:09 4-5 will get it.
33:11 After 42-44 years,
33:13 the way we will be in the world,
33:15 when the time will come,
33:17 I will give you the exact numbers
33:19 of the cases,
33:21 till 2013,
33:23 of the elections,
33:25 and you said about the dictator,
33:27 you admitted the murder of the court,
33:29 which we all knew from the childhood,
33:31 but you did not mention
33:33 the shameless people
33:35 who had made that decision.
33:37 So when you criticize,
33:39 when you criticize the dictator,
33:41 then you should also
33:43 criticize the one who made that decision.
33:45 And then you should also
33:47 mention them,
33:49 on the historical decisions.
33:51 This is very important for Pakistan.
33:53 The second thing is that if you
33:55 did not do the reforms of justice,
33:57 then the country has already been destroyed.
33:59 The third and last important thing,
34:01 the test trial of this entire government,
34:03 we will see in the 30 days of Ramzan,
34:05 and we will see in the 24 million dollar
34:07 days, after that,
34:09 I will do as you say,
34:11 in the 30 days of Ramzan,
34:13 how long will it take you
34:15 to destroy this government,
34:17 and how long will it last,
34:19 you will give a better assessment
34:21 than me.
34:23 I am coming to you.
34:25 I have to clarify one thing.
34:27 I am coming to you.
34:29 In the federal government,
34:31 the support of the people's party is very important.
34:33 But when we talk about Punjab,
34:35 Punjab has a single majority party,
34:37 they do not need people's party
34:39 to form a government.
34:41 Brother, we came in 2018,
34:43 so we were saying that
34:45 we have come for 10 years,
34:47 no one has a choice.
34:49 But our government is like this.
34:51 Our government is like this.
34:53 Our government was established
34:55 on your scheme.
34:57 This is a single majority.
34:59 Yes, Nagbhi sir.
35:01 I want to say that
35:03 all stakeholders
35:05 have come to know
35:07 that the time of women's
35:09 conspiracies has passed.
35:11 Now we have to work together.
35:13 And the project of
35:15 turning the tables,
35:17 Imran Khan has been taught very well
35:19 that the loss of suddenly
35:21 turning the tables is very dangerous.
35:23 Thank you.
35:25 Okay, Ramzan sir,
35:27 there are many different names
35:29 in the cabinet, new names are being mentioned.
35:31 So you also comment on it.
35:33 Do you have any news
35:35 about the turning of the tables?
35:37 If anyone wants to share.
35:39 The conclusion that
35:41 Faisal Wada has drawn is correct.
35:43 I do not agree with
35:45 the arguments
35:47 that he has given
35:49 to reach there.
35:51 I think that
35:53 the results of 8th February
35:55 will prevail.
35:57 And it is a matter of
35:59 only weeks and months
36:01 and not years.
36:03 And it is better
36:05 that the ways of
36:07 conspiracy and
36:09 violence in the country are closed.
36:11 The table should be set and
36:13 the talks should be held.
36:15 And no one knows more than Faisal Wada
36:17 that talks are being held.
36:19 And the different points of it
36:21 are in my knowledge
36:23 and they should be
36:25 well informed.
36:27 So it will be better in Pakistan
36:29 if the country wants to move forward.
36:31 So this drama
36:33 should come to an end.
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