The Reporters | Khawar Ghumman & Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain | ARY News | 12th February 2024

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03:26 and the result is, Azad Umidwar, Azad Azad who was fighting in real time, he didn't have any party position as such.

03:35 These are 8 people and JUIF is 4, and I think IPP is 2, and the leaders of IPP, Jhangir Khan Tareen,

03:48 and the leader of Jammat-e-Islami, Siraj-ul-Haq, they have taken the responsibility of the results

03:57 and they have left the party. We will talk about their resignation in detail in the next part of the program.

04:04 It is a good tradition of any political party that it accepts the results.

04:09 First of all, Mr. Chaudhary Gulam Sain, congratulations to you. The whole world has heard your comments.

04:18 I have received a lot of messages from Pakistan and outside Pakistan that Mr. Chaudhary Gulam Sain,

04:23 he was the only journalist throughout who had been saying this thing constantly that there is a wave for a political party.

04:32 Pakistan has taken the election from him. We have seen his challenges with the Umidwars.

04:41 He was not able to campaign in the way that other political parties did.

04:46 But despite that, he has a good number of supporters.

04:50 So Mr. Chaudhary Gulam Sain, once again, congratulations to you.

04:55 Your initial response, obviously you have returned from Karachi, you are in Lahore,

05:01 I and Hassan Ayub are in Islamabad. So what is your initial reaction to the election of 2024-2028?

05:09 I mean, you have been elected, so please explain it in what words you will do it.

05:14 The first thing is that the way you have done the election, from Peer to Itwar, from the beginning of Itwar,

05:25 you have slowly built the campaign of ARY and finally it has been established in the whole country and the whole world

05:36 that the election transmission of ARY is the most effective, impressive and the best program that anyone has done.

05:48 And it has brought results to the people. So for this, President ARY, Amad Yusuf Sahib, Fawad Sahib,

06:00 and our head Salman Iqbal Sahib, and the one who used to make tea for us, he used to bring food till today.

06:09 And all the drivers and all the staff, they did a great job, 24 hours of work.

06:16 So this is a historical event and I think that the great success of all of you and all of ARY is commendable.

06:27 The second thing is that whatever has happened, try to meet more, give a speech, give a speech,

06:37 whoever has won in many places and wherever they are, if they want to finalize the results in 120,

06:44 send a tribunal, then do that. If someone has lost, like Jahangir Trinidad has said,

06:50 that I don't want to continue politics. Similarly, Rajul Akhil, a decent person, has also backed down.

06:58 There are many people who have said that the Khawar government has defeated me,

07:04 that is, the person who was winning, they have given me his seat, so I have defeated them,

07:12 I don't want this seat. And there are many incidents like this, there are many such incidents.

07:17 So there is a new tradition in Pakistan at the moment that at all costs, at all costs,

07:24 we have to stay close to power, we have to win at all costs.

07:28 Mr. Chaudhary, we will talk about this in detail, this is our next story.

07:32 First, let me take the initial reaction. Viewers, Hassan Ayub is obviously there with us,

07:37 mine and Hassan's. Probably Mr. Chaudhary was not there at that time,

07:41 he was not a part of the Aryabai in 2018. This was our first transmission.

07:46 Viewers, if all the airtime is calculated, then the person who has spoken the most is Hassan Ayub.

07:54 And you can guess that his condition has deteriorated so much that you say,

07:59 for God's sake, I have lost my voice, I don't want to speak, I want to rest. Yes, Hassan.

08:04 No, I enjoyed the transmission very much, honestly. It was long, it was long, I mean, I was exhausted in the end,

08:12 but the energy did not diminish. Throughout, we had a clear disagreement,

08:17 and we also remained on our position. In fact, I was asked repeatedly,

08:24 I mean, the various people who were involved in it, they said,

08:28 why are you still writing Ravi Chani Chan? So I said, Chani Chan is writing,

08:32 maybe I am wrong, but so far I am convinced that I am not wrong.

08:38 So maybe in the future I will be proven wrong, but so far I am telling that the 2+2 that has happened,

08:44 the things that I have added up, that is the same thing. Ravi Chani Chan is writing.

08:48 Let's move on, viewers. Obviously, when we sit on the run-up to the elections,

08:55 on the basis of daily basis, we give our assessments.

08:58 The most spot on, because this is also a calculation process.

09:02 Chaudhary Gulam Sahin's assessment is the most, all our colleagues accept that,

09:08 we were not all agreeing, but Chaudhary was adamant on one thing,

09:12 that this is what is going to happen, there is a wave.

09:14 Mine was not much, but I was a little close to Chaudhary, that people will come out,

09:18 people will come out and vote, and you will have to listen to their voices.

09:22 Hassan Ayyub's Ravi does not tell anything other than peace.

09:27 And that is why we have put Hassan Ayyub's name in the 'Pyaar Mohabbat' section.

09:32 Chaudhary, let's take a little liberty, we have put his name there, Hassan Ayyub Ravi.

09:36 So he is telling about peace. Hassan Ayyub's 'Pyaar Mohabbat'.

09:44 You yourself, on the basis of daily basis, your Ravi.

09:46 When I was doing it on Twitter, Meher Bukhari Sahiba asked why is he writing Ravi,

09:50 so I put his name there.

09:52 I wanted to add one thing, I forgot, which was important.

09:56 Like Chaudhary Ghulam Hussain Sahab has said that the country should move forward.

09:59 Now for our viewers, who are basically voters of Pakistan,

10:03 and this is a message for them too, because of Chaudhary Ghulam Hussain Sahab,

10:06 my words are rarely accepted, but I agree with this, he is absolutely correct.

10:11 Pakistan cannot be patient now.

10:14 For the issue of grievance, there are legal forums, go there,

10:19 and respect each other's mandate, and there is no personal enmity in the legal battle,

10:24 it is not personal, it is his legal right that he is using, your opponent is a widower.

10:28 So there is no need to hoot on that too, that he has lost.

10:31 If he has lost, then if four people fight in the elections, then only one of them wins.

10:34 But he is losing by three.

10:36 So this thing, at least, we should teach people.

10:38 So we were talking about assessment. Hassan Ayyub's assessment was that,

10:41 this party which did not get the grievance,

10:44 Noreen Farooq Sahiba, we use her as a reference, she took it.

10:49 Akbar S. Bawar Sahab had hidden the grievance somewhere.

10:52 But, Hassan's assessment was that maybe he will not get a response,

10:56 and the party will lose its ground.

11:00 But, obviously, in KP, he showed his good side.

11:03 In Punjab too, he has a good presence.

11:05 Viewers, now let's go towards the election commission.

11:08 Our reporter, Zahid Mishwani, producer, try to contact him.

11:13 If we take from him, how many representatives,

11:17 how many have gathered there, let's talk to him.

11:20 How many times have they given statements?

11:22 How many complaints have they received, how many will they have,

11:25 how will they move forward, what is the procedure?

11:28 A while ago, viewers, you saw that in the afternoon,

11:31 Nigram Ziauddin Azam Qagat Sahib gave a full press conference.

11:34 He had called the foreign media there too.

11:36 He took some questions from him too.

11:40 And, obviously, he told that we are a developing country,

11:44 there are problems, there are security concerns on our eastern-western borders.

11:48 Because of that, some problems have arisen.

11:50 But, we are a democratic country and we will find a solution to the problems.

11:54 Similarly, an announcement has also come from the election commission.

11:57 And, the election commission is all over them,

11:59 they are being accused of rigging in the election.

12:01 They have been accused of rigging.

12:04 Let's talk about this.

12:05 Zahid Mishwani is our representative.

12:07 Keep covering the election commission.

12:09 Zahid Mishwani gave more news that you got from the election commission.

12:13 Okay, Zahid, now tell us,

12:15 you must have a rough idea.

12:18 How many complaints have been filed so far?

12:21 I think they are called election officials, if I am not wrong.

12:24 Yes, yes.

12:25 How many have been filed?

12:27 And, if we compare it with the election of 2018,

12:32 how much difference is there?

12:33 And, this process,

12:35 what will happen before the Gazette notification?

12:39 After the Gazette notification,

12:41 how far will this whole matter go?

12:43 Yes, absolutely.

12:45 Today, the election commission has been filing complaints against the election officials.

12:49 And, today, more than 75 cases have been filed against them.

12:56 And, 26 cases have come forward,

12:58 in which the results were challenged,

13:00 allegations of fraud were put.

13:02 The results were challenged on many police stations.

13:07 And, some of them filed recounting and report.

13:11 Today, they were heard.

13:13 And, on the 16th of November,

13:15 the results of the election commission were challenged.

13:19 Two bench camps were also held.

13:21 The presentation center was also held.

13:23 And, the report was filed from the relevant ROs.

13:26 And, it was said that the people who are winning,

13:30 are celebrating.

13:31 And, those who have lost,

13:32 are putting allegations.

13:34 The election commission said that,

13:35 how long will this process continue?

13:38 And, regarding the election officials,

13:41 the authorities were also made available.

13:43 And, on the election commission's behalf,

13:45 N.A. 43 and the election officials of PS 18 were used.

13:50 Okay, this will be covered in detail.

13:52 We are going to Mr. Chaudhary.

13:54 But, I have asked you a question.

13:56 If you compare,

13:57 the election officials coming after 2-3 days of the 2018 elections,

14:02 and what is happening today,

14:04 what is the difference?

14:05 Is it more or less?

14:07 Do comparative analysis.

14:08 Is it the same?

14:09 Or, is it the same?

14:10 It is almost the same.

14:12 There was a rush at that time too.

14:14 And, the elections were being held in the same way.

14:16 But, now, suddenly,

14:18 on the second day,

14:19 the number of people who came here,

14:21 started challenging.

14:22 There were requests.

14:23 There were cases.

14:24 That's why,

14:25 two bench camps were held.

14:26 When the load is full,

14:27 the bench camps are closed.

14:28 But, the main thing is that,

14:31 this time,

14:34 the warnings that have come out on the big seats,

14:37 because of that,

14:38 the election commission had to make a statement today,

14:42 that the election commission,

14:43 all the allegations that have been made,

14:45 they are rejecting.

14:46 But, now,

14:48 the other issues are,

14:51 after the end of the elections,

14:53 which...

14:54 Okay, we will see.

14:55 Mr. Chaudhary Gulam,

14:56 ask your question.

14:57 Mr. Azhar Mishwani,

14:59 we don't have the answer to three questions.

15:02 First, why were the results delayed?

15:05 Okay.

15:06 And,

15:07 the number of people who were requested,

15:09 they did not keep the 45th form of respect,

15:15 and issued it without it.

15:21 So, it is two or one or two hundred,

15:24 I don't know.

15:25 But, when the fingers were raised,

15:27 although,

15:28 the election commission,

15:29 they were saying from the first day itself,

15:31 the chief election commissioner too,

15:33 that whatever result we have,

15:36 you should send it by 10 o'clock,

15:38 and this is the method of doing it,

15:40 and everyone's signature is their method.

15:42 Who has violated this?

15:44 And,

15:45 which officers were appointed by the government,

15:48 who became the ROs,

15:49 and they,

15:50 all this,

15:51 big exercise,

15:52 big election,

15:53 and there were 13 crore voters,

15:56 6-7 crore voters,

15:57 and there were only 6-7 crore voters,

15:59 and there was complete peace in the country.

16:02 And,

16:03 all this,

16:04 all this,

16:05 why were they made to make a fuss?

16:09 Yes, Jizayat.

16:10 Regarding the election results,

16:12 regarding the issuance,

16:13 the election act is there,

16:15 the law is there,

16:16 it is clearly written in the law,

16:18 that from 10 to 2 o'clock at night,

16:21 all the results should be compiled,

16:23 but,

16:24 that for the next day,

16:25 from 12 to 2 o'clock,

16:26 if someone delays the ROs,

16:29 then he will tell a solid reason,

16:32 why he was delayed.

16:33 But,

16:34 till 2 o'clock at night,

16:35 the first result could not be obtained,

16:37 and this is the first election,

16:39 that people have been waiting for the results to be obtained for 3 days.

16:43 Now,

16:44 the election commission,

16:45 at that time,

16:46 the appointment that was made,

16:47 and today,

16:48 the appointment has come,

16:49 they have said that,

16:50 the mobile service banning,

16:51 the electronic data business,

16:52 should be banned,

16:53 and the coordination of the government,

16:55 and the banning of the mobile service,

16:57 has had a negative impact.

16:59 The first result of the 2018 elections,

17:01 was obtained at 4 in the morning.

17:03 These are the announcements of the election commission,

17:05 and it was said that this happened.

17:06 And the first result was obtained at 2 o'clock at night.

17:08 That is,

17:09 at 2 o'clock at night,

17:10 when all the results were to be obtained,

17:12 it was to be completed by 2 o'clock,

17:13 the first result was obtained at 2 o'clock at night,

17:15 in the election commission,

17:17 and the results are being told,

17:19 that it was completed in 1.5 days.

17:21 According to the election commission,

17:22 in 1.5 days,

17:23 they completed the results of this election.

17:25 The fact is that,

17:26 at 2 o'clock at night,

17:27 they had to complete all the results,

17:29 and if any,

17:30 a few times,

17:31 the election commission,

17:32 was talked to by the government,

17:34 and its announcement was also made,

17:36 that all the results had to be completed,

17:38 by 2 o'clock at night,

17:39 it was instructed.

17:40 And if any,

17:41 any remote area,

17:42 where the results are difficult to go,

17:44 and the designing officer,

17:45 comes by hand,

17:46 and presents the picture of the results,

17:49 and forms 45,

17:50 and the people will try to come,

17:52 that is fine,

17:53 but all the people will be seen,

17:55 and the security will be there.

17:56 The Prime Minister has also explained,

17:58 that there were security issues,

17:59 and we tried to do logistics.

18:01 But this is...

18:02 Chesha, then Hassan will ask the question.

18:04 Okay, but this is,

18:05 as Allamia is telling,

18:06 that in comparison to 2018,

18:07 there,

18:08 the results were compiled in 3 days,

18:10 which are here,

18:11 in 2 days,

18:12 and,

18:13 comparatively,

18:14 it was faster,

18:16 but,

18:17 the thing is,

18:18 the Chief Election Commissioner himself said,

18:20 that we will announce it at 12.30 pm.

18:22 So, the thing is,

18:23 the previous practice,

18:24 okay, you have improved it,

18:26 but then,

18:27 there was no need to make such big claims.

18:29 I believe,

18:30 he would have said earlier,

18:31 that we will see,

18:32 how these matters will go on day.

18:34 Because it was delayed,

18:35 we also raised our voice,

18:37 that earlier,

18:38 the Chief Election Commissioner,

18:40 and the Election Commission,

18:41 repeatedly said,

18:43 that this time,

18:44 it will not be delayed at all,

18:45 internet,

18:46 the internet,

18:47 the internet,

18:48 which is our,

18:49 the DMS,

18:50 the expectations were raised,

18:51 so,

18:52 because of that,

18:53 there were more doubts,

18:54 but,

18:55 I believe,

18:56 instead of these doubts,

18:57 if someone has been physically abused,

18:59 then he should come to the Election Commission,

19:01 and get his justice done.

19:02 What do you think?

19:03 Absolutely right,

19:04 thank you very much,

19:05 okay, Zahid,

19:06 before you go,

19:07 tell us,

19:08 that since the day,

19:09 these elections have been held,

19:10 onward,

19:11 has the Chief Election Commissioner,

19:12 been a public figure,

19:13 not in the media,

19:14 because,

19:15 there is a saying,

19:16 that the Setting Chief,

19:17 the Election Commissioner,

19:18 who announces the first result,

19:19 when it is final,

19:20 he briefs the media,

19:21 and faces the media,

19:22 is he okay?

19:23 When the polling was on,

19:24 at 7.30 in the morning,

19:25 on 8th February,

19:26 it was polling day,

19:27 and the first meeting,

19:28 I was the first journalist,

19:29 and reporter,

19:30 when I was at the main gate,

19:31 of the Election Commission,

19:32 and when the Chief,

19:33 came in,

19:34 I asked him,

19:35 on camera,

19:36 that the mobile service,

19:37 internet service,

19:38 is switched off,

19:39 and the election commission,

19:40 is not available,

19:41 and the media,

19:42 is not available,

19:43 and the media,

19:44 is not available,

19:45 and the internet service,

19:46 is switched off,

19:47 and how will this affect,

19:48 the people at 8300,

19:49 how will they take their,

19:50 work details,

19:51 how will the communication,

19:52 and how will the media,

19:53 be,

19:54 because now,

19:55 all the staff,

19:56 all the election people,

19:57 and the relevant stakeholders,

19:58 are dependent on the internet,

19:59 and all,

20:00 he said,

20:01 that this is a security issue,

20:02 and if I say,

20:03 I asked him,

20:04 that you give instructions,

20:05 that it should be done,

20:06 and he said,

20:07 if there is a misrepresentation,

20:08 then it will be on the responsible person,

20:09 and second,

20:10 he said,

20:11 that we have the system,

20:12 and all the data,

20:13 will be transferred,

20:14 and if it is not online,

20:15 then it will be offline,

20:16 I am surprised,

20:17 that if it is not online,

20:18 then how will it be offline,

20:19 at 2 in the night,

20:20 all those things,

20:21 are just,

20:22 a misrepresentation,

20:23 No, no,

20:24 he is asking,

20:25 where are they?

20:26 He explained,

20:27 this thing,

20:28 you tell him,

20:29 the truth,

20:30 absolutely,

20:31 on the day of the election,

20:32 it was looking,

20:33 as if there were some problems,

20:34 and after that,

20:35 he did not interact,

20:36 with the media,

20:37 normally,

20:38 every other day,

20:39 or,

20:40 I think,

20:41 let's go,

20:42 we will go to the break,

20:43 but before going to the break,

20:44 it is very important,

20:45 what Hassan has said,

20:46 see,

20:47 problems can arise,

20:48 at any time,

20:49 of any nature,

20:50 one is that,

20:51 the Chief Election Commissioner,

20:52 told us again and again,

20:53 that,

20:54 we have done all the arrangements,

20:55 rehearsals,

20:56 contingencies,

20:57 plans,

20:58 that if one thing,

20:59 does not work,

21:00 if A does not work,

21:01 then B,

21:02 if B does not work,

21:03 then C,

21:04 if C does not work,

21:05 then D,

21:06 we will give you the election results,

21:07 by this time,

21:08 whatever happens,

21:09 but after that,

21:10 when we stop,

21:11 then,

21:12 obviously,

21:13 what Hassan is saying,

21:14 Koko Shabbat,

21:15 will get up on it,

21:16 where is the break going,

21:17 viewers,

21:18 after the break,

21:19 on the morning level,

21:20 we will talk about the party position,

21:21 the alliances,

21:22 that are being made,

21:23 which party is asking for what,

21:24 how much share,

21:25 how much share,

21:26 or,

21:27 some other factors will also be included,

21:28 someone will get more than the share,

21:29 we will talk about all these stories,

21:30 after the break.

21:32 Welcome back viewers,

21:33 before going to the next story,

21:34 let me tell you,

21:35 that according to Article 91,

21:36 sub class 2,

21:37 when elections are held,

21:38 then from that date,

21:39 within 21 days,

21:40 it is necessary for the President of the country,

21:41 to call the assembly meeting,

21:42 so 29th,

21:43 28th,

21:44 sorry,

21:45 29th of July,

21:46 the President of the country,

21:47 will be calling the assembly meeting,

21:48 and the President of the country,

21:49 will be calling the assembly meeting,

21:50 and the President of the country,

21:51 will be calling the assembly meeting,

21:52 and the President of the country,

21:53 will be calling the assembly meeting,

21:54 and the President of the country,

21:55 will be calling the assembly meeting,

21:56 and the President of the country,

21:57 will be calling the assembly meeting,

21:58 and the President of the country,

21:59 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:00 and the President of the country,

22:01 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:02 and the President of the country,

22:03 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:04 and the President of the country,

22:05 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:06 and the President of the country,

22:07 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:08 and the President of the country,

22:09 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:10 and the President of the country,

22:11 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:12 and the President of the country,

22:13 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:14 and the President of the country,

22:15 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:16 and the President of the country,

22:17 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:18 and the President of the country,

22:19 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:20 and the President of the country,

22:21 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:22 and the President of the country,

22:23 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:31 and the President of the country,

22:38 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:45 and the President of the country,

22:52 will be calling the assembly meeting,

22:59 and the President of the country,

23:06 will be calling the assembly meeting,

23:13 and the President of the country,

23:20 will be calling the assembly meeting,

23:27 and the President of the country,

23:34 will be calling the assembly meeting,

23:41 and the President of the country,

23:46 will be calling the assembly meeting,

23:53 and the President of the country,

24:00 will be calling the assembly meeting,

24:07 and the President of the country,

24:12 will be calling the assembly meeting,

24:19 and the President of the country,

24:26 will be calling the assembly meeting,

24:33 and the President of the country,

24:40 will be calling the assembly meeting,

24:47 and the President of the country,

24:54 will be calling the assembly meeting,

25:01 and the President of the country,

25:08 will be calling the assembly meeting,

25:15 and the President of the country,

25:22 will be calling the assembly meeting,

25:29 and the President of the country,

25:36 will be calling the assembly meeting,

25:43 and the President of the country,

25:50 will be calling the assembly meeting,

25:57 and the President of the country,

26:04 will be calling the assembly meeting,

26:11 and the President of the country,

26:18 will be calling the assembly meeting,

26:25 and the President of the country,

26:32 will be calling the assembly meeting,

26:39 and the President of the country,

26:46 will be calling the assembly meeting,

26:53 and the President of the country,

27:00 will be calling the assembly meeting,

27:07 and the President of the country,

27:14 will be calling the assembly meeting,

27:21 and the President of the country,

27:28 will be calling the assembly meeting,

27:35 and the President of the country,

27:42 will be calling the assembly meeting,

27:49 and the President of the country,

27:56 will be calling the assembly meeting,

28:03 and the President of the country,

28:10 will be calling the assembly meeting,

28:17 and the President of the country,

28:24 will be calling the assembly meeting,

28:31 and the President of the country,

28:38 will be calling the assembly meeting,

28:45 and the President of the country,

28:52 will be calling the assembly meeting,

28:59 and the President of the country,

29:06 will be calling the assembly meeting,

29:13 and the President of the country,

29:20 will be calling the assembly meeting,

29:27 and the President of the country,

29:34 will be calling the assembly meeting,

29:41 and the President of the country,

29:48 will be calling the assembly meeting,

29:55 and the President of the country,

30:02 will be calling the assembly meeting,

30:09 and the President of the country,

30:16 will be calling the assembly meeting,

30:23 and the President of the country,

30:30 will be calling the assembly meeting,

30:37 and the President of the country,

30:44 will be calling the assembly meeting,

30:51 and the President of the country,

30:58 will be calling the assembly meeting,

31:05 and the President of the country,

31:12 will be calling the assembly meeting,

31:19 and the President of the country,

31:26 will be calling the assembly meeting,

31:33 and the President of the country,

31:40 will be calling the assembly meeting,

31:47 and the President of the country,

31:54 will be calling the assembly meeting,

32:01 and the President of the country,

32:08 will be calling the assembly meeting,

32:15 and the President of the country,

32:22 will be calling the assembly meeting,

32:29 and the President of the country,

32:36 will be calling the assembly meeting,

32:43 and the President of the country,

32:50 will be calling the assembly meeting,

32:57 and the President of the country,

33:04 will be calling the assembly meeting,

33:11 and the President of the country,

33:18 will be calling the assembly meeting,

33:25 and the President of the country,

33:32 will be calling the assembly meeting,

33:39 and the President of the country,

The Reporters | Khawar Ghumman & Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain | ARY News | 12th February 2024

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