LIVE Patriots Beat: Q+A & Super Bowl Preview

Name: LIVE Patriots Beat: Q+A & Super Bowl Preview
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Catch the newest episode of Patriots Beat with Alex Barth of 98.5 The Sports Hub and Brian Hines from Pats Pulpit hold a Q&A and preview the Super Bowl in Vegas between the Chiefs and 49ers.

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00:00 Edition of the Patriots beat podcast here on the CLNS media network

00:04 It is Brian Hanson Pat's pulpit back with Alex Barth from 985 the sports hub

00:08 And we have a bit of a quieter day today after

00:12 The mess that came in yesterday with all the news and we did have a show yesterday if you missed that

00:17 We talked about all the hirings and some of the organizational structure

00:21 So go check that one out if you did not already. So with the quieter day today

00:26 We're going to kind of take a step back do a little Q&A we'll get into

00:30 Anything you guys want to talk about with the coaches with free agency with the draft

00:35 We'll do some Super Bowl talk because it is Super Bowl week later in the show

00:39 So while you guys start putting some of your questions in the chat, we will talk about the one bit of news

00:44 We didn't get to talk about yesterday because it broke after our recording. It was Brian Belichick

00:51 We'll be back with the team. So there will still be a Belichick on staff

00:55 They didn't it was Mike Reese who reported it didn't directly say if he'll be back as the safeties coach

01:01 But you'd imagine with the guys they have hired on staff. That is the role

01:05 He will probably take so Brian is back in the building and the Belichick will still be on the Patriots staff here next season

01:12 Yeah, I mean it's good. It's good

01:15 We've talked about having continuity on defense and I think with Gerard May with DeMarcus Covington you had continuity up front

01:20 You know who's sticking around from the secondary?

01:22 We still haven't heard about Mike Pellegrino one way or the other but Steve Belichick sticking around

01:27 Assumingly as the safeties coach I think is it's it's good for both sides

01:31 The Patriots get to try to keep together that coaching staff that was obviously, you know successful last year

01:36 I think for for Brian Belichick a chance to kind of build his name

01:39 outside of

01:42 Working for his dad and obviously still New England, but it's not working for his dad anymore

01:45 He's out on his own and and he's on his own in court at this point. So

01:49 Good move makes sense

01:52 In good to see one of the Belichick brothers sticking around and yeah

01:56 Now we just wait for them to finish the rest of this thing off

01:58 Yep, so it is good

02:01 You needed someone with some experience in the secondary right because Covington's a defensive line guy

02:06 You have Jerry Montgomery is a defensive line guy Mayo's obviously linebackers

02:11 So you have the front seven pretty much covered but you want some

02:14 Someone with experience in that secondary and he's obviously kind of built his resume working with the safeties again

02:20 We'll see Mike Pellegrino. I know Mike Reese put out that projected coaching chart last week or something

02:26 Yeah, and Mike Pellegrino was still the cornerbacks coach there

02:30 So makes you think it makes it makes you think that maybe Mike got a little tidbit that Mike Pellegrino will be back in

02:36 Because I think Mike had Mike had Steve on that projection or had Brian as well. I think right? Yeah, so

02:43 makes you know, yeah and

02:47 Pellegrino would be an awesome guy to bring back right like that cornerback room has been very good the last few years

02:52 Picking guys like, you know, Alex Austin off waivers or free agency and turning him into a quality starter

02:59 Yeah in a few weeks. It looked like at least last week last year

03:04 So Pellegrino back would be a big boost for that defensive coaching staff

03:08 Yeah, definitely. We just got to wait and see at this point. Yep

03:13 Yeah, so cornerbacks coach offense again is receivers

03:17 Tight ends and running backs coach. We'll kind of see how the rest of the staff

03:22 Shapes up here over the next few weeks combine in a few weeks and then free agency and about over a month. So

03:30 things will be moving along pretty quickly here, but

03:33 Any last thoughts on the coaching staff there?

03:37 We'll wait till some some questions come in again

03:39 If you guys have anything you want to talk about put that in the chat. We will get to some anything

03:43 you want to talk about but

03:45 Any last coach tidbits you had? Yeah. No, we can we can get into the questions. It's funny

03:50 We did on catch 22 day Evan six

03:52 So I hosted and it was we always get so locked in. I don't know something about me hosting. Maybe a real radio guy

03:58 We were rolling through calls and emails on catch 22. So I'm ready to talk to the people. I am ready to answer questions

04:05 Let's start right here

04:06 This is a nice easy transition from the coaching staff when you look at the coaches and staff members

04:10 What are the next steps the Patriots should take and I mean obviously you got to fill it out

04:14 I don't think the order is super important like oh you got to hire a tight ends coach before linebackers coach

04:20 I don't really care about that. But I think we talked about offense coordinator being the most important hire

04:24 We had kind of said offense coordinator than quarterbacks coach Alex van Pelt was kind of two for one

04:30 Then offense line coach was the most important and it seemed like Reese confirmed that Scott Peters is in fact the offensive line coach last night

04:37 Let's get a wide receivers coach in here because this is this big looming thing heading into the strap

04:43 Especially for me where I keep talking about they don't have the flexibility to take Marvin Harrison third overall

04:49 They need to be able to identify and develop a day to receiver. That's coaching. That's what that is

04:56 That's coaching. So let me see. Let me know who wide receiver coach is gonna be so I can really start to it

05:01 We can really start to dig in on this draft. That's the next big one for me. I mean linebackers coach

05:05 Cornerbacks coach I trust them to take care of tight ends coach. They interviewed some we freaking tight ends coaches during the OC search

05:12 I'm sure somebody running backs coach is an interesting one. Kevin Falk is actually an assistant running backs coach in New York right now

05:19 That's somebody I would call see if he's interested in coming back

05:22 But but wide receivers coach to me and I thought I don't know if it was you or Mike who pointed out

05:27 today that the Patriots released a video recap of what they did at the Senior Bowl and

05:33 Interestingly enough Troy Brown who was the offensive coordinator played a big role now

05:37 So it certainly seems like they're ready to move on and that to me

05:42 Yeah, that that's the next one. I really have my focus on his wide receivers coach

05:46 I I don't know. I'm sure people would come back that and be like, who do you want?

05:49 I don't know like I I can't say I'm super familiar with all the wide receivers coaches around the league

05:55 Just look at the teams that have successfully developed wide receivers in recent years and do they have any assistance?

06:01 The one guy I've sort of talked about and I don't know if he's actually available

06:04 Going back to those like early 2010s Packers teams that they seem to be pulling from

06:10 Edgar Bennett was the wide receivers coach in Green Bay for a while

06:14 And they've obviously had a ton of success at that position and he's now the wide receivers coach in Vegas and has been with the Raiders

06:20 Since 2018 and they've had success developing wide receivers as well. So he's still with Vegas

06:25 I don't know if they're gonna bring in a new staff with

06:28 Get it's get see right. Is there new offensive coordinator? Yeah

06:32 so yeah, I I

06:35 Give him a call maybe gets he's gonna keep them but I give him a call be like hey if you're you know at all

06:41 Uncertain you want to make sure you have a job

06:44 New England's beautiful in the fall. Come on by kind of thing

06:46 So I know like Chad O'Shea wide receivers coach is gonna be kind of an obvious

06:52 Connection that seems like him and van Pelt are friends. He's worked in Cleveland one name. I've been looking at it's

06:58 David rah, I don't know if that's how you pronounce his last name. It's our AIH

07:04 He is currently just an offensive analyst for the Buccaneers who are now

07:08 kind of remodeling their coaching staff or offensive coaching staff with

07:13 the cone

07:14 Liam Cone is that the other they just hired so he was with Green Bay from

07:19 2014 to 2018

07:22 He spent the last year as a wide receivers coach and then he went to the Cardinals as a wide receivers coach for two years

07:27 And then he had a one-year stint in Vanderbilt where he was the offensive coordinator and wide receivers coach

07:32 So that's the guy with those Green Bay Packer ties and he has plenty of experience working with those wide receivers

07:38 I'd have to go back and see the years and if there was any

07:41 You know good projects that he helped develop or any guys he helped develop there

07:45 But that was that was another name looking through all those old old staffs that kind of came to my mind

07:50 All right. Here's a question other than quarterback

07:53 What is the biggest need on offense that should be taken care of in free agency?

07:56 First off quarterback should not be addressing free agency unless Baker Mayfield somehow gets there

08:02 Which he won't quarterback should not be addressing free agency. That should be addressed through the draft

08:07 That being said like what is their biggest need that I'd want to see addressed through free agency wide receiver

08:12 absolutely wide receiver for a

08:14 Number of reasons one the tackle class in free agency sucks. It's just it's not good. It's not I'm not gonna be like

08:21 Oh, you know, there's one or two guys and it drops off if they miss. No, it's not you have what 35 year old Tyron Smith?

08:27 Yeah, and then the next best PFFs grading of tackles for free agency

08:31 their next their second highest ranked guy is Trent Brown and Michael window is like when who's third who might be a guard so I

08:39 You got to do wide receiver if you want to add, you know true premium and I've said I think they can get a playmaker

08:46 In the third round wide receiver second or third round and I believe that

08:49 but if

08:52 You really want to go go get a guy go get T Higgins go get Michael Pittman

08:57 The equivalent of that kind of player even like Calvin Ridley

09:01 There is no tackle equivalent this year in free agency

09:06 So I think wide receiver is the big-time free agency position this year for the patrons. Yep

09:11 So tackles on PFF they have Tyron Smith Trent Brown Mike and when you fourth is Makai Becton who?

09:18 Was basically kind of like Trent Brown for the show. Great worst Trent Brown. Yeah, and then it's Jonah Williams who?

09:26 You know, they have him getting like four years 16 million average. I don't know if you'd want to pay

09:31 Jonah Williams that and then that's a lot for a guy that would got bench last

09:35 Yeah, and then Jermaine a luminor who like could be a solid like third tackle

09:40 He's got a play at spot starts like I wouldn't mind that addition, but you're not getting your

09:45 Starting tackles in free agency unless you hopefully resign my good window and your plan if you're keeping him at right tackle

09:52 All right

09:54 Best day two quarterbacks for van Pelt's offense McCarthy

09:58 So I don't think Michael Pennix is a day two quarterback

10:01 A lot of people do Michael Pennix would be great with the play action deep ball stuff

10:06 Michael Pennix would be an axe excellent fit if he gets a d2

10:09 to day two

10:12 McCarthy I don't know because there are some more complex reads to it that just he's not ready for

10:19 If we go down to like the day three guys because there really is no day two quarterback

10:25 There's the six guys. We're gonna go. I mean they might go day two, but they're like top 40

10:28 Which I guess is the Patriots range, but there's no quarterbacks in like the 50 to 100 range in this draft

10:34 There's aren't it was supposed to be Michael Pratt and he had a terrible senior bowl

10:37 Unless Rattler worked up in that maybe right? I still yeah, it's still it's a like for I

10:42 Worry about he's small man. I worry about him in any offense

10:47 He's just he's gonna take a beating in the NFL

10:50 Okay, so I'm actually writing about this right now

10:55 I'll have something up on this tomorrow

10:59 But this is something I'm kind of amazed nobody's talking about it in

11:03 Judon Matthew Judon was on Felger and Maz earlier and was sort of asked about his contract like indirectly

11:08 But the question is are you on board trading Matthew Judon for some picks wants to get paid but getting long in the tooth

11:14 So before the people freak out and say why do you want to trade Matthew Judon? He's one of the only good players on the team

11:20 Something has to happen with Matthew Judon

11:24 Between now and the start of the season like something it could be any number of things but last year, right?

11:30 He had the unofficial hold in it

11:32 We didn't call it a hold and there's a hold in and then the Patriots gave him a sizable pay raise

11:36 He went from two million dollars in guaranteed money to 14 million in guaranteed money

11:40 part of the way they did that without extending the contract was

11:45 Adding taking money from what is now this year 24 and putting in it to 23

11:50 So now here we are in 2024. He has no guaranteed money on his contract this year

11:55 I think he can earn up to like 7 million in incentives, which still is not a lot but

11:59 No guaranteed money in his contract entering a contract year. He's 31 years old

12:05 So he's right on the edge of that he's older, but he's not old

12:10 Especially the way we see some of these pass rushers continuing to contribute to you know

12:14 34 35 years old like judan could if he was a free agent this year

12:18 He could probably still go out and get a big contract and then you add in the fact that he's coming off the injury now

12:25 What I worry about

12:28 Here's what can't happen and that's nothing

12:30 What can't happen is the Patriots wait and see because this situation is very similar

12:38 To the situation Stefan guilt. They had a Stefan Gilmore in 21 where in

12:43 2019 he wins defensive player of the year in

12:45 2020 they did the same thing they moved a bunch of his money up

12:48 Goes into 21 in a contract year coming off an injury a little bit older now

12:53 They didn't have as much flexibility at the time because their cap situation isn't what it is now

12:58 I think they have like five hundred thousand dollars in cap space by the time they started training camp that year

13:02 But they kind of they could have traded them at the draft. They could have traded him early in camp

13:08 They let him they waited

13:09 They ended up trading him for a sixth round pick in October and he went on and he's still been a very good corner since

13:14 So you can't let that happen with Matthew judan. You can't just wait

13:19 Realize you're not gonna get a deal done trade him at the deadline for nothing and then he's still a good player

13:24 So, what do you do?

13:27 You could give him a short-term contract

13:30 which is

13:33 Probably, you know, it sounds nice. All right, he's older

13:36 We'll just get him for a couple years. It's gonna cost you a lot of money because he knows you should know his agent

13:41 You know

13:42 he could go out on the market and get like one last big contract and you're preventing him from doing that because

13:47 Even if you sound to a two-year deal

13:49 Alright now he's gonna be 34 when he hits the market next time that the last big contract window was gone

13:54 This is the last real contract you assign to a long-term deal, which is probably gonna be a little cheaper year to year

13:59 But now you're tying yourself to guys can turn 32 in August is coming off an injury

14:04 Do you how do you feel that where he's at again?

14:06 You can't wait and see him on the field before you make this decision because his value plummets or do you trade him?

14:12 Which to me that means before the draft

14:15 After the draft he loses tremendous value

14:18 You need to trade him now when because this is part of what happened with Gilmore

14:22 He had I think six million dollars in dead cap and then he was gonna need a new contract

14:28 so part of the reason the Patriots didn't get a lot for him was

14:31 he

14:33 Whatever team added him needed the flexibility to make it happen

14:37 Financially and there just weren't that many teams that could do that the Panthers were tanking

14:40 They like 19 million dollars in cash space. It was among the most in the league if you wait until

14:45 August or October to trade them teams have pretty much spent all their cap space

14:50 Like they're not

14:52 Really interested in acquiring a big contract player if you do it now when teams are putting the picture together

14:59 And they can make that a part of their plans. You're gonna have more bidders. He's gonna have more value and to me

15:05 You know, I look at it and some of this depends on what happens in the next couple of weeks

15:10 Like I've kind of gone back and forth

15:12 But I don't rule out trading him because I look at the edge rushers in this draft

15:17 Can you essentially do?

15:20 What the Vikings did was to fond digs on?

15:23 Day two where they weren't gonna pay Stefan digs. They trade him to the bills use the pick took the player

15:30 Boom, you had a one-for-one swap Justin Jefferson in your rolling. Can you trade Matthew Jude on for a day to pick?

15:36 identify a pass rusher on day two

15:39 Yeah, and I know people are gonna freak out about using a pick on defense in the top 100

15:44 But without Matthew Jude on on the roster pass rusher becomes a premium need

15:48 It's one for one swap you had a pass rusher

15:51 You hope you hit on the guy you trust your coaching staff and boom you're off and running

15:54 That's in a perfect world. Do you trust yourself to do that? Or do you give him the contract? I'm open to it

15:59 I don't know that it's I'm not ready to say which way I would go yet

16:02 Like there's still too many unknowns, but it's wild to me

16:06 Nobody's talking about this because again what can't happen is

16:09 Matthew Jude on goes into camp with no guaranteed money on his contract because now you have to give him a new deal or

16:15 Trade him and you're gonna be get a lot less for him then than you are right now

16:20 So is that what you think before the draft you think his value you could get you a day to pick I

16:26 Would I so literally I interrupted writing to do show?

16:31 What I was about to do Brian I kid you not I have the page up because I would lost track of time is

16:36 Try to find like a comparable trade if you want to talk and give your thought I can actually do that

16:44 Comp trade for Matthew done. Yeah. Yeah, just look at like another edge rusher was traded. It's a little different

16:51 I mean sweat and chase you on were just the like two that went at the deadline, but that's it the deadline

16:57 That's different. They're younger like sweat sweats on his rookie deal, right? I

17:01 Know yeah, they extended him right away and then chase young's a free agent this this offseason

17:09 So they were both ending their their rookie deal. So

17:12 definitely kind of a different situation there, but

17:15 Yeah, something's gonna have to happen there because you can't just kind of go in like last year and have this this hold in

17:23 And him just conditioning on the fields with no guaranteed money

17:26 But he is 32. He's coming off the injury. So how do you assess his value as a team and

17:32 If you get rid of them, then you do need pass rushers because we'll see what Josh Uche if he comes back

17:38 There are some intriguing guys and free agency like Bryce Huff is a good one

17:42 They could look to add Jonathan Grennard from Houston is a good rusher

17:47 So they could go out and you know spend that money elsewhere or if they got a day to pick

17:51 I don't know if you have the comps they could find a rusher

17:55 They they'd like and try to fill his shoes that way but yeah something something's gonna happen with Matt Judah on this offseason

18:02 It's just a matter of what and when

18:05 Yeah, I mean I'm looking it's been a while since an edge rusher was I mean some guys were thrown in in other trades

18:11 but now I'm already by the way back in because I want to find one that happened in the preseason to like

18:16 Leonard Williams

18:18 Went for a second and a fifth now that was in October. I don't know if you would consider that a comp Brian

18:27 Leonard Leonard Williams getting traded in October

18:33 Yeah, I mean

18:35 not really I guess but

18:38 It's not as good as you do, right?

18:40 Yeah, well look in the argument I guess I'm making maybe that helps my case because Leonard Williams a little bit

18:47 He's not on his rookie contract anymore, but he's younger. Yes. He's 29. He's three years younger than judan

18:54 He's I mean the argument I'm making is that he's gonna have more value in the spring

19:00 so if Leonard Williams went for a second round pick in

19:04 October

19:07 yeah, I don't think a

19:09 Second or like a late second early third round pick would be

19:14 Super unrealistic. Alright, so the last edge rusher I found and this isn't helpful at all in

19:20 2022 the Colts traded the Colts acquired a yannick and Gawke way for rocky a sin

19:28 So that doesn't do much I don't think I mean, I guess you could try to swap judan player for player, too

19:35 I didn't really sit on the table

19:37 Like if you can go get which wide receivers do we think are on the trade block?

19:42 Because I would even give up like judan and like a day three pick for a decent wide receiver or a wide receiver

19:50 Yeah, like I don't think you're gonna get

19:54 Let's say the Colts franchise tag Michael Pittman and can't get a deal done

19:58 Would like judan in a fourth for Pittman

20:02 Yeah, I'm just throwing that I have no idea if that would work or not. I'm just throwing that out Brian

20:08 I don't know what you think. I mean, I'd probably I'd consider that and I'd probably do that

20:13 Honestly, but I don't know if that value how that value would be to Indianapolis. Okay, here we go. I

20:20 Sort of found it

20:23 So the value is not gonna be quite this

20:25 but

20:27 same age

20:29 Same kind of pedigree a close pedigree

20:31 in March of 2022

20:34 The Chargers traded a second and six round pick for Khalil Mac

20:39 That's now Khalil Mac wasn't coming off an injury but it was a bit older in the six. Yeah

20:49 Same age. So Khalil Mac the year he was he was traded going into his age 31 season two dons going in

20:56 Oh, but he was hurt the year before he was hurt in 21. All right, this is the one

21:00 And I if I remember actually now I'm thinking about I think this is welcome to the process everybody reads my column tomorrow

21:07 It's gonna be like, oh, I already know all this

21:09 Yeah, he had season-ending foot injury Khalil Mac in 21 and then he got traded. So that's the car. Yeah

21:14 He's a little younger and I think he has a little more pedigree. I would say then judan does right?

21:21 He was an all-pro the year in in 2020 Mac was he you know been a defensive player of the year?

21:26 Which judan's never done albeit that was much earlier in his career and

21:29 You know judan's gonna need a new contract, but I believe Mac needed a new contract as well when that deal was done

21:35 Which I can tell you here in a second

21:38 no, maybe not but

21:41 You want to tell me it's a third for Matthew judan?

21:44 If it's you know a high third if you're up there in you know

21:48 65 66 67 68 something like that. I

21:53 Would think long and hard about them. I

21:56 Really would especially because the reality is is Matthew judan still gonna be a part of the team when you're truly contending again

22:04 Probably not

22:07 So you kick the can down the road a little bit on that contract now, I would say if you do that

22:14 You either go out and free agency and pay another elite pass rusher or more likely or more realistically

22:19 You you draft a guy with the pick you get for judan

22:23 You hope you hit on it or use one of your third round picks on on a pass rusher

22:27 But yeah, I

22:31 All right. I'm glad I found that trade that just saved me a whole bunch. So the bears the process in action

22:36 There you go. Look behind the Mac. They got

22:38 Pick 48 and like a six round next year

22:42 So you could maybe like Jude on you could ditch the six and move the pick back in that 60 range

22:49 And that's probably a pretty similar comp and then you get another top

22:54 75 pick for the pats to keep kind of rebuilding this thing. So yeah, something's gonna happen there

23:00 So maybe Jude on for like a late second. Yeah late second early third. I could definitely

23:07 That's the comp that so now I mean to take this a step further. I mean, what are the teams that are gonna need?

23:11 down here

23:15 Tampa might need a pass rusher their defense is getting old

23:18 Dallas it totally seems like kind of move Jerry Jones would make that's 56 57

23:24 Yeah, I mean Buffalo needs a pass rush, but you know, you're not gonna trim to Buffalo. You shouldn't trim to Buffalo

23:28 Maybe Kansas City their defensive lines kind of getting old. They like to make these big draft day trades. So

23:37 Yeah, I just I

23:39 Say a quick thought. I think we just spent 10 minutes on that but Jude on for areas Tony

23:44 Somebody in here hang on where'd it go?

23:48 Somebody put in brand slam a Rooney that we can thank Colin coward for that

23:52 We have to hear about this for the next three months, even though it's never gonna happen number three and Matthew Jude on for number

23:57 11 Jefferson

23:58 There's zero reason for the Vikings to do that. Yeah, they should pay they are

24:04 Idiots if they don't pay Justin Jefferson, and I know that it already worked once I get it that they traded step on digs

24:10 End up with Jefferson. I would not you're counting on hitting blackjack twice in a row

24:15 I would not count on that if I'm the Vikings

24:18 So yeah, but thank you Colin cowherd for filling up my mentions with this ridiculous trade

24:23 Not just next four months people gonna be mad

24:25 You're gonna be mad and like August be like well, they could have traded three for Joseph Jefferson. No

24:29 They can't

24:31 Promise you and even if they could at that point at that point unless you're getting

24:36 Justin Jefferson and 11, which you won't because that is an obscene amount

24:41 Just take Marvin Harrison

24:44 Just take Marvin Harrison. You still get a really good receiver you get him on a rookie deal. Yep. So, all right

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25:39 All right, what else we got here

25:43 We go on the topic of edge guys. Oh that all right here. We'll start this first

25:51 So the Patriots keep Uche or Jennings Anthony Jennings between the two easy. Yep easy

25:56 Jennings should be I don't want to say priority because that's Mike on winu

26:02 But I think he should be up at the top of the list

26:04 Especially now that they're still running this, you know Belichick defense with Gerard Mayo and DeMarcus Covington

26:10 Leading the charge there. I would love him back. Uche. How do you feel about Uche?

26:15 I guess you his market will be interesting

26:18 first of all because I think he might just end up getting like a one-year deal probably incentive heavy, but I

26:24 Don't know like that. I don't see market to kind of watch unfold. He reminds me a lot of

26:30 Not as a player, but like I remember when Chandler Jones

26:34 Contra and they obviously ended up trading him but when Chandler Jones contract was that like you knew it's like this

26:39 He's a really good player

26:41 But he's never gonna maximize his skill set here

26:45 So rather than pay him for what's gonna be lackluster production

26:49 Get the equivalent value form and build from there

26:53 Like that's always what it felt like with Chandler Jones and I said that about Josh Uche at the deadline now

26:57 I don't his equivalent value might be a third round pick

27:00 so maybe you get lucky somebody over pays you get the comp pick next year, but I just

27:04 They the way they prioritize disciplined rush in John the way Josh Uche just plays with his hair on fire

27:11 It's just like he can go to another defense that uses that edge role differently and probably put up big numbers

27:17 He's never gonna do that here, but he has the ability to do it. You're gonna have to pay for that ability

27:21 So to me, it's just not a fit

27:24 It's just it's not that he's not a good player, but I think that money can be best spent elsewhere. Yep

27:29 All right. Um

27:31 Here's one who is your?

27:33 favorite Patriots external coaching hire

27:36 It might be Scott Peters

27:41 Just cuz we have that video of him hitting the ball. Yeah, well I was gonna say it's either Scott Peters or if he counts

27:47 He's not coaching but Alonzo Highsmith cuz he's badass

27:49 That's so actually where I was gonna go with that. Yeah the football guys. Yeah, exactly

27:55 What about with the new offensive system

28:00 Do you think Cole strange it will benefit Cole strange and he'll look he'll look better and more of this West Coast

28:07 Maybe they have some of that, you know Shanahan stuff with TC McCartney playing a big role. He coached under Kyle Shanahan

28:14 So do you think that means better for the more athletic smaller Cole strange?

28:17 it's definitely more of

28:20 What he like more tailored to his skill set? I?

28:25 Don't think it a hundred percent is he it should help him out

28:29 But I think part of the question is who's playing next to him because a lot it's it's all outside stuff in this scheme

28:35 It's a lot of it's built on that outside zone that wide outside run. So who's the tackle next to him?

28:41 because he

28:43 He's only gonna be able to do so much like that tackles gonna be a focal point

28:46 So it should help him but let's see who they get a tackle

28:49 and my thing with him is like

28:52 Is the new system gonna help with pass blocking right because he's undersized and that's where a lot of his troubles has been just those

28:59 Bigger defensive tackles kind of going right through him

29:02 so I know maybe getting him on the move and the run game will help but

29:05 How is this gonna look still as a pass blocker that that'll be interesting to watch?

29:10 Yeah

29:12 Another free agent Dalton Schultz, we've talked about the tight end position a lot especially since

29:20 The van Pelt higher because that played a big role with David Najoku and that Cleveland offense. Do you like Dalton Schultz?

29:26 Um, I I want to see him get kind of a more well-rounded tight end like Schultz blocks a little bit

29:32 But I don't think he he's more hunter Henry ish. Like I I look at honestly the guys that

29:39 that van Pelt hadn't clean

29:42 Harrison Bryant's gonna be a free agent. Austin Hooper is gonna be a free agent. Neither one of them's that old I Brian's I think

29:47 Bryant was the the Aussie Aussie keen class. So he's probably what 25 26

29:54 I think you need to be a well-rounded tight end to play in this isn't like Don Schultz a really good player

29:58 Don't you're on he is but I they need a number one tight end who can block that's just to run this system

30:05 You need a tight end

30:06 that's gonna contribute in the run game or can contribute both ways because if you're just switching guys in and out it becomes a

30:11 tell and I think that

30:13 It didn't become a thing for them last year, but they had to overcompensate so it didn't become a thing

30:18 They had a run I think more 12 than they probably wanted to in order to get Pharaoh Brown and Hunter Henry on the field together

30:24 right, so I

30:27 Just give me give me Hunter Henry and Pharaoh Brown is one one player

30:31 Give me that well-rounded skill set at tight end. So I there's tight ends. I like in the draft, honestly

30:35 So has it changed your thoughts maybe like trading down for Brock Bowers at all Brock Bowers

30:43 just because

30:45 Rookie tight ends generally the longest league lead time. I said this on catch-22. I've obviously been pretty stoutly against

30:51 Trading down the one I can sit consider. I don't even know if you would get this whole package

30:57 What is I Atlanta has eight, right? Yep

31:02 Can you go from three to eight and get Kyle?

31:06 Yeah

31:09 Kyle Pitts and then maybe one or you know, you know another day to pick or something or a future first, right?

31:16 Eight Atlanta's next year first in Kyle Pitts. I

31:19 Wouldn't hate that. I

31:22 I'd rather just have the quarterback at the top of the board

31:25 But if you know, they have to trade down, let's say they look at Jane Daniels. They look at Drake

31:29 Maybe they say no thing I

31:31 Call Atlanta and I say it was eight Kyle Pitts your next year first and then a second

31:39 You know this year next year

31:41 And I would do that and then it ate you I don't know if you get Joe Altman probably a shot either

31:45 Oh Lufa Shanu if you have joy if you can get your all today you take Joe Alt if not

31:50 you get over Shanu or Malik neighbors and

31:53 You're off running and then you take Michael Penix probably trade that use use what you got from Atlanta to trade back up into the

32:01 End of the first round take Michael Penix probably what I would do

32:04 Yeah, that's just a scenario that I've been looking at more because again if it's if it's you're not sold on a quarterback

32:12 At three, yeah, that's like the ideal preference

32:15 But if you don't believe in one of those guys

32:17 Like moving back and getting a lot of extra capital is really enticing and then if you can get you know at eight

32:23 You can still be in that range to get a blue chip talent. Maybe for Shanu Joe all neighbors

32:27 Doonzay and

32:30 Then you can even add a guy like Kyle Pitts who could be a real chess piece and van Pelt's offense that that would be

32:36 an intriguing route again, you if you like the quarterback at three stick there and take them but if

32:41 Tradeback could be pretty enticing. I'm so like in theory what you'd have if you did that

32:46 Let's say you go out you signed like Michael Pittman, right you then trade back from three to eight you get

32:50 Kyle

32:53 Tucker Kyle Pitts and

32:55 Then you move back up and you take the quarterback or you take you know

32:58 Tackle at eight you move back up to take the quarterback. You've now added blue chip players at quarterback tackle receiver tight end

33:04 You're off and running now

33:06 You didn't really add the maximum ceiling quarterback, which a lot of people want. You're probably looking at more of like

33:11 I don't wanna say Brock pretty tight, but you're probably looking at more of like a

33:17 Jerry, no, I Gino Smith type then, you know, hopefully getting your CJ Stroud or even dare

33:24 I say Lamar Jackson Patrick my homes

33:27 But yeah, let's see here. I think we have some breaking news

33:30 Really chat. Yep

33:32 Let me see. I've been gotten by the chat before so I will wait

33:36 Yeah, Mike, all right, so Mike just as we thought

33:44 Perfect. Well good thing we hit out that at the top. But yes, yeah

33:48 I

33:50 Like it. Yeah, as I said, the cornerbacks have been very good

33:55 past few years with Pellegrino leading that room

33:57 So I think that's a a very good guy to bring back and kind of keep that continuity and experience in the secondary

34:03 Yeah, yeah

34:08 And just if you want to rewind I'm gonna repeat what we said earlier continuity in secondary. He's been good

34:13 They've done a good job of coaching those guys up

34:15 So the Patriots have both secondaries coaches back from last year. All that's left on defense is linebackers coach

34:23 Dante Hightower

34:25 Jamie Collins

34:27 Well, well they have in the past

34:30 Split inside and outside linebacker. So there you go one inside and one outside

34:35 Right Dante Hightower is your inside linebackers coach Jamie Collins your outside linebackers coach. There you go or I get there backwards

34:42 Co linebackers coaches, whatever. They both played all over the field and you probably I don't know if it's like past

34:48 The point where Michael Hodges would be ruled out, but I mean still that's a linebackers coach

34:53 They interviewed from the Saints that worked with the Marcus Covington. So you'd assume maybe that guy now he's he's still in the running but

34:59 We'll see. Yes. I mean he hasn't as long as he hasn't taken another job. I think he's still worth considering

35:05 back to free agency

35:08 Interested in Saquon at all

35:12 So this is an interesting one because like what if the all the good receivers?

35:18 Don't hit the market right like they all get tagged Mike Evans goes back and now you just have this money to kind of spend

35:25 So maybe say hey, then you trade for a J Brown

35:28 then you trade for a J Brown like I just

35:31 You know who tried to solve his wide receiver issue by adding a running back urban Meyer

35:37 Remember urban Meyer in that draft

35:40 They drafted Travis ETN with the play urban Meyer said this on draft night and ETN got hurt

35:46 so it never came to fruition but

35:48 He said yeah, they asked him like why'd you drive traffic? I forget who the running back they had

35:52 But they had a good running back at the time

35:54 I said, why'd you draft a running back with your second first round pick?

35:57 You already have a good one. You have all these other needs goes

35:58 Well, we wanted a good slot receiver and we feel like Travis ETN could be a good slot receiver

36:03 Despite that wide receiver draft for slot receivers was so loaded and it's it's the it's the mystery box of the boat

36:11 You know Travis ETN we need a slot receiver

36:14 So we drafted Travis ETN because he's running back

36:16 He might even turn into a really good slot receiver just by having all those really good slot receivers on the board

36:20 So I hate I'm not anti running back like Evan. I'm not I'm really not in in Barclays a good player

36:27 but I think you need about be realistic about the impact of positions and

36:32 I just don't

36:35 think that

36:37 You're getting the impact of you can only have really one running back on the field at a time. So you're

36:44 Basically just replacing Ramon Jerry Stevenson with with Saquon Barkley

36:47 If you tell me you can trade Ramon Jerry Stevenson

36:49 It was in a contract year and you don't have to pay Barkley that much like maybe but that's just it's not gonna happen

36:54 By the way, I had to wait and pull this up here. So Travis ETN went 25th to the Jaguars who again?

36:59 Remember wanted a slow is that 2020 went 25th or 21?

37:03 21 so here's who went after that Rashad Bateman Elijah Moore Rondale more

37:10 Josh Palmer

37:13 Amin Ross st. Brown

37:15 All right, some of these guys didn't pan out that we thought we're good but like you get you get the point there right like

37:21 There were slot receivers available to be had and they drafted a running back. I have no who the UDFA wide receivers that year

37:29 There's nobody. Um, yeah, I

37:31 Think say quants a good player if

37:36 Ramon Drey's contract was up this year. I would say yes go out and upgrade the running back position. I just

37:43 It's a hat on a hat. It's it's too much. Don't I

37:45 Don't need sake on here unless for whatever reason Ramon receiving stuff

37:49 I wouldn't mind it on like if you miss out on all the receivers and you have this money to kind of spend

37:54 Like a two-year deal maybe like I'm not interested in giving them like a running back of four or five

38:00 What are you doing with him?

38:02 You're just adding a player for the sake of adding a player at that point just looking to get offensive talent at that point

38:08 Especially but I understand like one running back. Are you adding at a time?

38:13 But right how much more talent are you actually you're putting more talent on the roster?

38:17 But how much more talent are you putting on the field?

38:19 Especially when you look at the production they got from Zeke last year who they signed in August. Yeah

38:23 I'm not worried about the backup running that you can get a backup running back in this league snap your fingers and get a

38:28 backup running back I

38:29 just

38:31 Unless Alex van Peltz like we're gonna run it a ton of

38:35 12 person 21 personnel 21 21. We're gonna run a ton of 21 personnel. We're gonna go pony

38:41 We're gonna be using them as fullbacks. We're gonna be lining say Quan up in the slot, which I don't really think you can do

38:46 Unless Alex van Pelt has that master plan

38:50 It's I've said I thought we talked about this a lot last year and we talked about certain positions in the draft. There's

39:00 Placements and there's additions or there's upgrades and there's additions there two different things an

39:05 Upgrade is when you one for one swap a player for another better player

39:11 But when the first player is already pretty good that becomes a tough sell

39:15 An addition is when you add somebody that you like you did not have that element before

39:22 I feel like the Patriots already have the element that say Quan would bring and Ramon Jerry Stevens said maybe say Quan's better

39:28 But when you talk about the assets you have to put into it, that's an upgrade

39:32 That's not an addition and I'm not saying the Patriots shouldn't be upgrading in it in on top of adding they should I?

39:38 Just don't know that that's the for what say Quan's probably gonna want

39:42 I don't know. That's the spot that I look at and say, all right, you got a upgrade at running back

39:46 That's that's what's gonna do it. Yep

39:48 but what about

39:51 Late round running back speaking of that. I mean, I don't know if Dylan Lobby counts as a late round guy that I

39:58 Think he does. I mean he's a three

40:00 Day three and to me late round means day three later round. I was I was gonna say

40:05 Where we're at now, I would say Dylan Lobby for a you know, kind of a late guy for the Patriots

40:11 to draft but

40:14 That's enough running back talk. Let's go somewhere else

40:18 Let's see what else is in here

40:21 Any

40:25 Wide receivers in the second round that have wide receiver one potential in this draft. Welcome to the show

40:31 I'm glad you tuned in for the free. This person's tuning in for the first time at least in a year

40:36 Yes. Yes. I've said this that there are I did this with Evan actually Brian. I did this exercise with Evan

40:42 Let me do with you and you're a little biased. You're a big-time guy. So who is your number one wide receiver last year?

40:47 I was it uh, oh

40:49 Was it JSN was it Quentin Johnson?

40:52 It was JSN. Yes. All right

40:55 Where would you put JSN if you were in this draft? Tell me tell me when to stop Marvin Harrison jr

41:02 Malik neighbors

41:04 Roma doons a

41:06 Keon Coleman

41:07 Brian Thomas

41:09 I'd like a keep going. I like a more I like Brian Thomas more than Keon Coleman

41:15 But then I like JSN probably more than Keon Coleman

41:19 Okay, well, what about that somewhere worthy ad Mitchell? Yeah, right right around there right around Xavier worthy and Keon Coleman

41:27 All right, so we're talking about the number one receiver last year

41:30 Being wide receiver five or six in this draft and those are second round guys

41:35 Like there are guys that are gonna go on day two in this draft

41:38 That would have been the number one receiver off the board last year

41:42 There are first round talents that will go on day two the guys that stand out for me. I just said some of them

41:47 I mean, I I I guess Brian Thomas is rising up boards. I see the consensus board has him at 21

41:54 I thought he was a day two guy, but I guess not

41:56 80 Mitchell to me as wide receiver one potential Xavier Liggett his wide receiver one potential Xavier worthy

42:02 Maybe because of his position doesn't but like he has true impact player

42:07 Potential where I still think you need a true X but like your X doesn't have to be your best receiver

42:12 But you do need an X I get who would the comp be for a guy like that?

42:16 I mean I've compared him to Zay Flowers

42:18 That's kind of been my comp for him a lot of people think Zay Flowers wide receiver one

42:22 And I if you really develop him properly, there's a little more risk here

42:26 I think Johnny Wilson can be wide receiver one if he ends up in the right situation with the right coaching

42:31 So what was that four or five guys?

42:33 I

42:35 Said this when we did the the Senior Bowl preview Brian

42:37 I think there are multiple future Pro Bowl receivers at Senior Bowl just at the Senior Bowl forget the guys that weren't there in the

42:43 strap I

42:46 Really believe that so I don't know if I I missed anybody that you also believe in but I

42:51 Think you hit on most of them. I mean Mike brings up one of my favorites Ricky pierce

42:56 Oh, I don't know if we're talking wide receiver one potential. Maybe yeah, he's more like a strong wide receiver, too

43:03 He's kind of got like that Brandon. I you think going on right if he he's gonna win single coverage all day

43:08 But you know when he starts getting safeties over the top and doubled and things like that. I I don't know that he's quite

43:15 At that level

43:17 Do you think there's a chance the Patriots draft a tackle like altar for Shana at three? Yes

43:26 Yes, I mean there was a report last week that Elliot Wolfe would strongly consider it now we find out he's running the personnel department

43:33 so

43:34 How can you not?

43:36 Yeah, I think it's definitely

43:38 On the table. I mean, it's a definitely a position of need there's two really talented guys there

43:43 if that's the route I'd hope you could maybe trade back a little bit and

43:49 You know acquire some future capital and not have to take them at three

43:53 But I think it's definitely in the equation that they stay at three and end up picking one of those guys

43:58 Yeah

44:00 There's another guy like Jerry Rice's kid Brendan, right, I don't think he's like a wide receiver one way he's good player

44:08 He's a good player. I definitely take him top 100. Yep. Definitely a true X kind of guy

44:13 Anything else you see or you want to get a little Super Bowl talk real quick and then we'll wrap it up here

44:18 Yeah, let's take one more quick break. We can hear after read this one, right? No, I think we have the video up. Oh, yes

44:25 I've been told we have the video. So yeah, we do

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45:53 All right, so we'll wrap with some Super Bowl talk 49ers Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes

46:02 Looking for what is third Super Bowl. Do you have someone you like the Chiefs are plus two and a half over at FanDuel which

46:10 Patrick Mahomes as an underdog is tough to go against but are you are you leaning one way here? And are you yeah

46:18 What are you looking at on Sunday?

46:20 I want the Niners to win as much as it's gonna kill me when Kyle Shanahan

46:23 Finally wins a Super Bowl. I think that

46:26 I like the way they built the lineup

46:30 I

46:31 Like the way they built their team. I like the players on the team all that

46:34 I

46:35 Definitely backs up a number of my takes my anti-ad Jimmy Garoppolo takes my building around a net neutral quarterback takes my you don't

46:40 Need to take a receiver in the first round takes

46:42 defense can win championships still takes but

46:46 I'm not gonna bet against Patrick Mahomes. I'm not gonna do it. I've lost too much money doing that already this year

46:51 I'm not gonna do it again. Like I I the Chiefs are gonna win this game

46:54 It's gonna be annoying and don't let anybody tell you it means Mahomes is better than Brady

46:57 he's still behind on rings in terms of base and

47:00 He's still less than halfway to catching Brady and people forget Brady had this thing called durability and longevity

47:08 And part of what makes Tom Brady so great is in an era where guys were retiring at 32 33 years old

47:13 He played well in was 40s at a high level. I need to see Mahomes do that before I put them in the same category

47:18 So again, I'll be rooting for the Niners

47:21 But I think the Chiefs are going and I think it's gonna be another annoying game

47:25 We're the Chiefs are on the ropes and we think they're done and then you know

47:28 Just like last year late late in the third quarter here come the Chiefs and they win

47:33 Yeah, and they're in you know what and they're probably gonna win by 13

47:36 So the Swifties can all go nuts and it's gonna be annoying

47:39 I mean, I'm with you. Um

47:42 I've had a lot of travel see catches the game-winning touchdown with 13 seconds left

47:47 I don't know how they win and then they you know force a fumble return it for a touchdown

47:52 They wouldn't buy 13 something like that. Yeah. Oh my god. I've had a lot of success back in Patrick Mahomes as an underdog, but uh

48:00 Yeah, I'm rooting for the Niners. I'd like to see Shanahan get his first

48:05 I'm Brock Purdy fan. I like Brock Purdy not saying he's an elite quarterback, but you know, he seems like it's a good story

48:13 He seems like an awesome guy. Like that would be cool to see him win a reign and

48:18 Yeah, just as you kind of said with the whole Chiefs

48:22 Patriots Brady Mahomes stuff just like the more they lose in the Super Bowl the better

48:27 For those whole debate, so I'm rooting for the Niners here

48:32 But yeah, Patrick Mahomes as an underdog is a scary sight to see

48:35 So I'll give you this on Shanahan because I think this is as much as people are talking about it as a legacy game from

48:41 Holmes it's it's really a legacy game for Kyle Shanahan. Here's why

48:44 Kyle Shanahan is in his seventh year right seventh year coaching the Niners. I believe let me double-check that

48:50 Whatever year it is. It's seven three. I can't remember

48:52 He is in his starting 17

48:56 Eight one eight. Okay, he's in his eight three four eighth year. Yep

49:02 so he is we tied with

49:05 What's his name the clown in Buffalo Sean McDermott?

49:08 For the longest tenured coach in the NFL that is not one a ring with the current team

49:13 So the guy like have any reason coaching Chiefs longer, but he's one super, right? So he is in his eighth year

49:20 there in NFL history

49:22 Have only been ten coaches

49:25 Modern history Super Bowl era there have only been ten coaches

49:29 To coach a team for ten or more years

49:32 without winning a ring

49:34 It's kind of 11 Mike Holmgren coached the Seahawks for more than ten years without winning a title

49:39 But he had previously won a title in Green Bay

49:41 So these are guys that were employed for ten years without a ring on their finger

49:45 the list

49:47 Marv Levy

49:49 Marv Lewis Ted Marchabrota

49:51 Jeff Fisher

49:53 Dan Reeves

49:55 Jason Garrett Andy Reed and Philly now, he's obviously won a ring since but Andy Reed in Philly

50:00 Dennis Green in Jim Moore

50:03 That's Kyle Shanahan's company those are his peers and

50:09 Sean McDermott's peers, but we know Sean McDermott's not a good football coach

50:15 yeah, most people have come around on that people still coming around on Shanahan I

50:19 So I don't want to punish it's Belger Mazbro, right? I don't want to punish the guy for he hasn't done yet

50:24 He still is after this year two more years to get it done

50:26 But really hard to get to Super Bowl back-to-back, especially the way the NFC looks

50:31 So does he get back next year?

50:33 Probably not can he get back in his tenth year like this feels to me like Kyle Shanahan's change

50:38 It's now the Evan Lazar's of the world who worship at the altar of Kyle Shanahan will tell you he's Andy Reed in Philly

50:45 To which I would say, okay

50:46 So you're telling me he needs the best quarterback in the league to win a Super Bowl?

50:49 Is Andy Reed how to leave Philly go to Kansas City and then get Patrick Moms in order to win?

50:54 Which I don't think reflects the injuries great coach. I don't think that's the flex a lot of people think it is

51:00 Oh, he reinvented himself. No, we got

51:02 He coached up after moms I'm not saying anyway

51:07 Kyle Shanahan a lot of people try to tell you he's Andy Reed

51:10 He doesn't win this Super Bowl and then he doesn't get his before year 10. Oh

51:14 He's quite Jeff Fisher he's better than Jeff Fisher and Jason Garrett and Marvin Lewis

51:23 Marvin Lewis

51:26 Jeff Fisher JC they were good enough coaches that they hung around

51:29 They were good

51:31 Around and they made you think they could do that Fisher was mr. 8 and 8

51:35 He went 8 and 8 every year and then he kept getting was employed for 10 years. Here's who I think the cop really is

51:40 It's Marv Levy. Okay went to four Super Bowls with the bills and didn't win one

51:45 But when we talk about the great

51:49 coaches in NFL has gotta get one

51:52 Where's Marv Levy on that list?

51:55 Where is Marv Lee? Where is like Jim Moore was a very good coach. Dan Reeves was a very good coach

52:01 Where are those guys? They're talked about but it's gonna take a couple minutes before we get to him

52:06 This is Kyle Shanahan's legacy game because this is best chance. You have a beat-up Chiefs team. You're here

52:13 You're healthy. The Niners have not been healthy a lot under his tenure

52:16 Who are you? Are you a Super Bowl winning coach? Or are you Jeff Fisher?

52:21 That to me is what Kyle Shanahan has to answer. Well, he finally beat that stat against the Packers

52:27 What was it? Like he was oh and 31 when we

52:30 Trailing by 7 in the fourth quarter or something and then he finally got that monkey off his back with that comeback win against Green Bay

52:37 So now maybe he gets

52:39 This one off his back and he can get he can get a Super Bowl

52:43 But yeah, yeah, this is I think his best shot because I mean they're gonna have to start paying some of these guys on the roster

52:50 IUK is up for a contract soon. I mean they're gonna have to make something decision with Brock Purdy whether they pay him or

52:59 You know move on and look for another quarterback in like two years probably so this probably is their best shot

53:05 I'm rooting for him. I'd like to see Kyle Shanahan

53:07 get off that list with Jeff Fisher and those guys and

53:12 Win a Super Bowl and I would like to see Brock when it win a Super Bowl. So

53:16 I'm going Niners, but yeah, it's probably just gonna be Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey doing it again

53:22 Just like the 2018 paths, but we'll see

53:27 Yeah, all right

53:28 So do you have one fan duel special or bet for us that you like to close this one out or one guy?

53:35 You're looking at there maybe yardage

53:36 I mean, I seriously might just bet both teams to win by 13 as the Swifties seems always win and I assume the odds are

53:44 high enough on

53:46 Doing an exact score margin that they obviously won't both hit but if one of them hits I end up

53:52 You know in the green so if one of them wins by 13, let's see. I don't know

53:56 I

53:57 Don't even know you bet that I know you can bet like exact score, but I don't know if you can bet scoring margin

54:03 I'm also probably gonna bet you can usually get an alternate spread or something. I

54:08 Also might just bet

54:12 Wasn't gonna say no, but you don't get that's a spread so you don't get

54:17 Like if I take you know Niners down to minus 13 we get is the odds are gonna be terrible

54:26 Yeah, I don't know I might I might do something like pun return return for a touchdown or something like that I usually throw a

54:32 Championship weekend. I had an opening kickoff return for touchdown. It was a dollar to win like 12

54:37 And obviously it didn't happen, but it was like, you know what for a dollar if I actually get this story it'll

54:43 Shout out Devin Hester who should get in the hall. I think that's tonight, right? Yeah

54:49 all right, well, I forgot that that was tonight if

54:55 If

54:56 Far Ronnie Ronnie Harrison should get in tonight. Ronnie Harrison Devin Hester should both get in tonight

55:00 I'll say that we'll react on the next show

55:02 So the only I was just going through the correct scores the only one that I can find chiefs by 13 is Chiefs

55:09 28 49ers

55:11 15 and it's plus 50,000 now, so

55:14 For that many I'll put a scent on it

55:18 What's the Kevin Malone line if you get 10,000 to one bet it? Yeah, you have to take 50,000 to one

55:25 you gotta go for it, I guess but uh

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