Dr. Patrick Porter shares insights on brain frequencies and brainwave entrainment, explaining how they help us manage stress and anxiety.
- Discover the power of brain frequencies in adapting and thriving in a rapidly changing world.
- Explore the dual nature of AI and the importance of maintaining a balanced perspective.
- Learn practical techniques to manage brain frequencies, reduce stress, and optimize overall brain function.
- Find harmony in the digital age through grounding and breathwork practices that counteract the negative effects of modern living.
- Discover the power of brain frequencies in adapting and thriving in a rapidly changing world.
- Explore the dual nature of AI and the importance of maintaining a balanced perspective.
- Learn practical techniques to manage brain frequencies, reduce stress, and optimize overall brain function.
- Find harmony in the digital age through grounding and breathwork practices that counteract the negative effects of modern living.
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00:00 So we need to work on our inner space.
00:03 So this external environment we live in
00:05 is more peaceful and more harmonious
00:07 and has more compassion
00:08 and creates more vitality for everyone.
00:11 - Welcome to Beyond Unstoppable,
00:12 the podcast that explores the intersection
00:14 of biology, psychology, and technology.
00:18 Here is your host, Ben Angel.
00:19 - Today, I'm thrilled to bring you a conversation
00:22 that will unlock the power of your mind.
00:24 We have the privilege of diving deep
00:26 into the world of brainwave optimization
00:29 with acclaimed expert, Dr. Patrick Porter.
00:32 In our discussion, Dr. Porter takes us
00:34 on a journey of discovery.
00:36 He shares incredible insights
00:37 on how brain frequencies can elevate our study skills
00:42 and bring forth a profound state of calmness.
00:44 We go beyond the surface of social media
00:47 and delve into the captivating world
00:49 of artificial intelligence.
00:51 Dr. Porter illuminates the potential benefits
00:54 and dangers of AI,
00:55 pushing us to expand our knowledge
00:57 and adopt fresh perspectives
00:59 to comprehend its impact on industries like health.
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01:26 Dr. Porter, it is awesome to actually speak with you again.
01:29 I believe we met back in 2018 at a biohacking conference.
01:33 I think it was in LA.
01:35 - Yeah, yeah.
01:36 - I've been following your work for quite a while now.
01:38 And in fact, through my book, "Unstoppable"
01:40 and my journey into biohacking,
01:43 your work specifically led me
01:45 to the frequencies of the brain.
01:48 One thing I've always found as an author
01:50 is that writing is self-hypnosis.
01:53 I do whatever I can to get into that hypnotized state
01:57 or fetish state before I sit down to write.
02:00 But before we dive into how brain frequency
02:04 is essential through adaptability,
02:07 I would just love to know your thoughts on
02:09 how did you initially dive into this space?
02:13 - Well, my dad was a Silva instructor, the Silva method.
02:17 And so we learned about alpha.
02:20 We didn't learn about the other brainwaves, really.
02:21 We learned about, of course, sleep.
02:24 But alpha was the one my dad trained us on.
02:26 So from an early age, actually, since I was 12,
02:29 I've been practicing different meditation techniques.
02:32 And that led us to learning about
02:34 neurolinguistic programming, hypnosis, positive psychology.
02:38 And then when I got a job with Light and Sound Research,
02:41 we upped the game by going from just sound frequencies
02:45 to light frequencies.
02:47 And so we combined those light and sound frequencies
02:49 and we just continued to move on.
02:51 I mean, our latest generation includes
02:54 so PGO frequencies as well as noisier frequencies.
02:58 So we're always trying to add in
03:00 what we can stack into that headset
03:02 that will still have a net positive effect on the result,
03:07 not just adding something in to add it in.
03:08 But when we measured in the lab,
03:10 does it actually amplify the entrainment process?
03:14 So I've been doing that.
03:15 I still feel like I don't have a job.
03:17 I'm just playing and I get to do what I've been doing
03:19 since I helped my dad with those seminars.
03:22 - So you started when you were 12 years old.
03:24 So he was teaching you how to apply
03:26 those frequencies at that age.
03:28 Was that to help with study or calmness?
03:31 What was the outcome?
03:33 - Yeah, Silva had a weird sound
03:35 that we didn't realize at the time
03:36 would be now called an isochronic tone
03:39 because you could play it in a room
03:40 and it would actually, the brain would hear this weird sound
03:45 and that Silva created, or he got it somewhere.
03:48 I'm not sure how the origin story of that,
03:51 but it would put your brain into a state of alpha, 10 Hertz.
03:55 So we used it, primarily I used it for sports at first
03:59 'cause that was my motivation.
04:00 I didn't realize that the brain was gonna generalize
04:03 that result into my classwork.
04:05 And I became an honor roll student at the same time,
04:07 not really thinking that it was gonna help my grades,
04:09 but I knew it was gonna help me in baseball
04:11 and then eventually into football and track and wrestling,
04:14 although the other sports I played.
04:16 - So how important do you think it is
04:19 for people to understand brain frequencies?
04:21 Because I'm speaking with a lot of 20 year olds lately
04:24 who are completely stressed out of their mind.
04:26 They see artificial intelligence coming down the pipeline.
04:30 They're in a hypervigilant state,
04:31 worried if what they're studying or working on right now
04:35 is even gonna exist in a few years.
04:37 How does managing our brain frequencies help us to adapt?
04:42 - Yeah, and I think they should be a little worried
04:45 because we're finding that it is,
04:47 that AI right now has some pretty good skill sets
04:51 that help, that I think augment our intelligence.
04:55 So I don't think being hypervigilant
04:57 is gonna help the situation,
04:58 but that's kind of the default mode for our neurophysiology.
05:02 We first go into how's this gonna affect me?
05:05 And I think that for those experts out there in the field,
05:08 like I love using like Otter AI to take my notes
05:13 and then putting it into Chat GP
05:14 and letting it edit it for me
05:16 because it's very good at English.
05:18 I mean, then I get it to my assistant.
05:20 I think the problem is a lot of people think AI is smart.
05:23 AI isn't smart or dumb, simply managing information.
05:27 And so you still have to have your expertise
05:29 to make it sound right.
05:30 I mean, when I first started playing with it,
05:32 it was referencing research that we had never done,
05:35 but somehow it created.
05:37 So it's not exactly true what it's saying.
05:40 I think what most people don't understand
05:42 is that if you're a creative person,
05:44 I don't think you ever have to worry about AI.
05:47 AI isn't creative and it could be creative at some point.
05:50 I mean, I'm not saying it might not have
05:51 that singularity effect that will happen,
05:54 but I think for right now,
05:56 it still takes a human touch to ask the right questions,
05:58 to prompt the right responses.
06:02 And I think that what we're gonna find,
06:04 my kind of thought of the future is that
06:07 we're gonna have it doing all the offloading,
06:09 all the work that is just redundant work.
06:11 When using the example here of writing,
06:15 writing is really editing.
06:16 I mean, you've got to get all your information
06:18 out of your head onto paper.
06:20 And then once you do that,
06:21 then you've got to do your research.
06:23 And I don't think AI can't really do that research for you
06:26 unless you prompt it,
06:27 which it's a really good research assistant,
06:30 but just like a research assistant,
06:31 you've got to go back and make sure that it's truthful.
06:34 And that's where the expertise of the individual comes in.
06:37 But I think that the main reason we need to be concerned
06:40 about brainwaves is that being overvigilant
06:43 is gonna cause them to be basically replaced
06:47 because AI doesn't get sympathetic,
06:50 AI just simply functions.
06:52 So when we get that fight or flight,
06:54 and I think now's the time for people to look at,
06:56 our world is gonna look much different 10 years from now
07:00 than it does right now.
07:01 I mean, we're looking at how it can help us
07:03 to use brainwave entrainment.
07:04 I mean, I've been in the research lab
07:07 doing the interactive light and sound machine
07:09 for the last 10 years.
07:10 And I think AI is gonna give us that missing piece
07:13 that we needed to,
07:15 because there's so many calculations
07:17 and things that we need
07:18 that I think it's gonna solve that problem.
07:20 But I've been told I'm an eternal optimist.
07:22 Of course, we could have whatever the robots taken
07:25 over the world or whatever,
07:27 but I think we're still a little bit off from that.
07:29 And I think that they're never going to have
07:32 what humans have.
07:34 So I think the main thing is look at what you're doing.
07:37 If you're doing a job that is redundant, repetitive,
07:41 then it might be time to start looking at the books
07:43 and researching what could you do
07:45 in the field of creativity involving consciousness.
07:49 Because I don't think even if we get singularity
07:53 like we see in the movies,
07:55 consciousness where we're at,
07:57 we have a 100 billion neural net processor.
07:59 Some would say we are AI.
08:01 When we became conscious, we have this potential
08:05 that still every neuron connection we have
08:07 is more powerful than the most powerful computer on earth.
08:10 So all we have to do is activate this.
08:13 And that's where the brainwaves come in.
08:14 And I think the biggest problem people have
08:16 is like in the mornings,
08:18 when you need that SMR brainwave
08:19 where you're gonna trigger the neuropronephrine,
08:21 the cortisol, the dopamine to get you out of bed
08:24 and get you moving in the morning,
08:25 that's a different brainwave than we need at night
08:27 when we're trying to down regulate,
08:29 produce melatonin and get our deep sleep cycles going.
08:33 Those are two different brainwave patterns.
08:35 So I always tell people one meditation
08:38 doesn't solve the problems we have today.
08:40 Even though there's more than that,
08:41 we'd say there's three different meditation processes.
08:44 There's one for the middle of the day
08:45 that's a reboot meditation.
08:47 There's one in the morning that's a wake up meditation.
08:49 There's one to go to sleep at night,
08:50 which is a go to sleep meditation.
08:52 And our brain frequencies actually control all those things.
08:55 - So when you're thinking about in terms of,
09:00 if we're talking about activating these neural networks,
09:04 if that's one of our competitive advantages,
09:07 are we currently succeeding at that as a society?
09:11 What are your thoughts on this?
09:12 - No, I think the main reason we're not
09:15 is because people are being taken off course by emotion,
09:20 by like fear, anxiety and frustration.
09:23 Fear is one way you can down regulate your nervous system.
09:27 Because as soon as you get into fear,
09:28 the body has to go into a, not a proactive mode,
09:32 but more of a reactionary mode.
09:34 And so we go back to that default mode network
09:36 and that primitive reflexes that we have,
09:39 and our brain basically looks for survival.
09:41 And so all other systems,
09:43 those systems that we need like for biohacking,
09:46 when people look at biohacking
09:47 and optimizing the nervous system,
09:50 we're talking about an expanded state of consciousness,
09:53 not a restricted state.
09:54 So I think that right now,
09:57 and it's really what we live in the best
09:58 and the worst of times, right?
09:59 As the old song goes,
10:01 because we can look at the internet
10:02 and we can look at all the adaptability that we have
10:06 and everything that's so incredible.
10:07 This is the most incredible time in our lives.
10:09 Just using one example, back in the 1700s,
10:13 we would have to be very rich and famous
10:15 to have an orchestra playing for us.
10:17 But each of us have a little phone in our hands
10:20 where we can play those same music anytime we want.
10:23 But some people will still choose to play music
10:26 that is dysregulating their nervous system.
10:28 When we could be using that 10 cycle music
10:31 and really harmonizing our body,
10:32 making our intelligence work better.
10:34 And that's just one example.
10:36 I mean, we can choose our environment now
10:39 and because we know we can choose our environment,
10:41 we can choose our epigenetics.
10:43 That's what really what biohacking is all about.
10:45 So I think that we're not using it to its full potential
10:48 and mainly because money,
10:51 the powers that be that control all the media,
10:55 whether good or bad, they're trying to sell you something.
10:58 And we all need that.
10:59 I mean, sales is important.
11:01 We need to tell people about what's out there.
11:04 And now they have it down to an algorithm.
11:06 They know us so well that we can't change.
11:08 They used to be, we would be exposed to new
11:11 and different things through school and education.
11:13 Now it's more of an indoctrination, not an education.
11:17 Nobody's learning how to think,
11:19 they're learning what to think.
11:20 And that's a big problem in our world today.
11:23 - Do you think AI could potentially help break that mold
11:27 or add more fuel to the fire?
11:29 Because we're saying with some of these AI systems
11:32 depending on what they're trained in,
11:34 I think the best example is AI hiring and firing people
11:38 based on certain biases.
11:41 What are your thoughts on that?
11:42 We're at the very early stages.
11:44 So I think it's important to recognize,
11:46 hey, we shouldn't just throw our hands up in the air
11:48 and just let the tech companies take over.
11:51 Would you be an advocate for certain policy
11:53 to make sure that this heads in the right direction?
11:56 - Well, I'd love that.
11:58 Yeah, I think that both are true.
12:01 It can help us and then it can hurt us.
12:04 They just did a thing where they showed,
12:05 they had AI tell us what would be the worst case scenario
12:08 with AI.
12:10 And I think it's already happening.
12:12 The worst case for AI is that we're being programmed
12:17 without us knowing we're being programmed.
12:19 And so when you look at all the algorithms
12:22 that are on social media and all the algorithms
12:24 that are on our smartphones
12:25 and all the algorithms that are on TV now,
12:27 they're using those to manipulate us
12:30 without knowing we're being manipulated.
12:32 When we can just have a conversation about,
12:34 I'm out here on my property right now,
12:36 so I'm looking for a zero turn lawnmower
12:40 and I was just talking to my son about it.
12:42 Well, now when I go into Amazon
12:44 or anywhere else on the internet,
12:46 I'm getting bombarded by zero turn lawnmowers.
12:49 And I never told Google anything.
12:51 I didn't say, "Google, please help me find
12:52 "these zero turn lawnmowers."
12:55 So even though they say they're not listening,
12:58 they're listening.
12:59 'Cause how would they know the wake up word
13:01 if they're not listening?
13:02 So I think no one's gonna escape that
13:05 unless you live in a fair day cage.
13:06 So the thing is that we need to,
13:09 just like biohacking, people know in biohacking,
13:12 you're not gonna get all your nutrients
13:14 from the food at the grocery store.
13:15 So you're not gonna get all your knowledge
13:18 from social media or even from the TV.
13:20 We need to again, start thinking differently,
13:23 getting around people that think differently
13:26 and expanding.
13:27 If you have one view,
13:29 always do some research on the opposite view.
13:32 It used to be there was counterpoint on the news.
13:34 Now it's just point.
13:36 There's no counterpoint.
13:37 We never learn about the other side of the coin.
13:40 And I think that's what makes us as humans
13:42 so flexible and so expandable as far as consciousness goes
13:46 because we're always looking outside ourselves.
13:48 But now they've got us so tuned in,
13:51 or I should say some people that aren't doing that,
13:53 you have to unplug for a while,
13:55 get out in nature, ground,
13:57 because the reality is that this sun we have
14:00 is actually a pulse star
14:02 that is pulsing information to every cell of our body
14:05 every second of every minute of every hour of every day.
14:08 And that sun has our future written in it.
14:11 I mean, because think about moving through,
14:15 the reality is we're stardust.
14:17 And we were there at the beginning of the big bang.
14:18 And so there's bigger plans for us
14:20 than just buying more ads on Facebook
14:24 or following the trends.
14:26 And I think that we need to,
14:28 but of course the money,
14:30 most people are following the money.
14:31 They're following that.
14:33 And I think that, and it's not a bad thing.
14:35 I mean, business needs to thrive
14:37 for us to survive in our current reality.
14:40 So it's not a bad thing.
14:42 It's just know that that's happening
14:43 and don't get upset about it.
14:45 It's the way it is.
14:46 And go with the flow.
14:47 I think I would not want to go back.
14:50 And I love what AI is doing right now.
14:53 And I don't know if we're ever going to be able to control it.
14:55 I think the cat's already out of the bag.
14:56 So people can write books about it and do whatever.
14:59 They need to either get on board or get run over.
15:02 The old thing is you're not going to fight this machine.
15:05 It's already happening.
15:06 And I think it's going to do a lot for a global economy.
15:09 I mean, they have technology out there
15:10 that I'm being exposed to
15:11 because of the property that I'm building.
15:14 There's a lot of free energy now
15:15 that AI is helping to manage those energy resources.
15:19 So I think we have to look at the positive
15:21 and focus our energy on that.
15:23 And I think that there's enough of us out there
15:25 that are looking for the positive
15:27 that we're going to run over these negative people
15:29 because negative never lasts.
15:31 Negative people implode.
15:33 Greed, fear, anxiety, depression,
15:36 that always follows those greed mongers.
15:38 And eventually they're going to fall.
15:40 And optimism, positive thinking, that's how we're designed.
15:44 We're hardwired to have joy and happiness in our life.
15:47 It's just, but if we get fear and anxiety and depression,
15:50 which are those lower frequencies,
15:52 then they'll disrail us.
15:55 - One thing interesting,
15:56 the deeper I dive into the AI robot hole
15:58 is that I'm looking at both the optimist perspective,
16:01 which is typically my disposition,
16:04 and then obviously the doomsday.
16:06 And the more I look at all of the different use cases,
16:10 both positive and negative,
16:11 it's almost as it seems that there is no
16:14 advantageous position of always being an optimist
16:18 when, for example, only a couple of months ago,
16:22 my neighbor's autistic nephew,
16:24 someone used AI to clone his voice,
16:28 then try and scam his parents out of
16:30 tens of thousands of dollars.
16:32 So for me, these are just conversations I'm having,
16:35 and I'm starting to see these examples pop up.
16:38 I mean, this year alone, we'll save over $100,000
16:41 on employee costs due to AI.
16:43 So I think there's a positive,
16:45 but I can also say this is going to instill
16:48 a lot of fear in people that
16:51 I don't necessarily think they should be shamed for.
16:54 And we're almost seeing some tech experts
16:57 kind of using the term Luddite
16:59 to shame what is a typical human response.
17:05 If your job is on the line,
17:07 you're going to respond in a certain way,
17:09 or if your business could get taken out,
17:10 looking a lot of, especially the legal industry right now.
17:14 So what would you say to those individuals in terms of
17:18 what psychological tools or mental frameworks
17:22 do they need right now to be able to
17:25 put a framework around it?
17:26 'Cause the only framework we've ever had
17:28 in relationship to AI has typically been sci-fi movies.
17:31 So it's pretty normal to react the way that we're reacting
17:35 if that's our only framework.
17:37 - So what new frameworks would you recommend?
17:40 And you may not have even thought about this yet,
17:42 I'm not sure.
17:44 - Right, well, I think that we're going to see
17:47 major advancements in every area of health with AI's help.
17:51 When you think about even what Elon Musk has done with
17:55 his space program,
17:56 he's putting rockets out into space and bringing them back.
17:59 Whether you believe there's another space program or not,
18:02 that's pretty incredible that he's doing that.
18:04 And he's doing that really with AI.
18:07 Because people can't think that fast.
18:09 There's certain things that we just have to have.
18:11 With healing, there's gonna be technology.
18:13 Like even looking at these devices that they have out there,
18:18 we're going to have like,
18:20 where people can walk with the help of AI,
18:24 where it's going to be a spinal implant.
18:27 And I think some people are going,
18:29 "Wow, I know people that don't even have cell phones."
18:31 Believe it or not.
18:32 They think that they're the devil or whatever.
18:34 But they have guns.
18:35 And I'm not against guns either.
18:36 I'm part of the NRA.
18:37 But the thing is that there's good and bad for everything.
18:40 You could have a gun and do really bad things with it.
18:42 You could have a gun that can get food for your family
18:45 if you need it or protect you if that's what's necessary.
18:48 That's what I think most people are forgetting.
18:50 There is no one size fits all in this arena
18:53 because you're never going to win.
18:54 Pretty soon it's going to be,
18:56 when you're with your family,
18:56 you can't talk about religions.
18:58 You can't talk about politics and you can't talk about AI.
19:00 I think that's what's going to happen.
19:03 - I feel like everyone's talking about all of those things
19:06 all at once right now.
19:08 - Yeah, pretty soon.
19:09 Yeah, and I think because the reason they say
19:11 you shouldn't talk about those with family
19:12 is there's no winning.
19:13 I mean, it doesn't matter whom you support,
19:16 but I think the deep fakes like you're talking about,
19:19 I think that's happening a lot more
19:21 with high profile people than we even know.
19:24 I mean, because they can get the sound now so easily.
19:28 In fact, at Braintap, we're actually looking at that
19:31 because people want to have their own Braintap sessions
19:34 with their own voice.
19:35 And we can put my algorithm into an AI
19:39 where I would interpret what they want to do.
19:41 And I could have a personalized session.
19:43 Now, if I mix that on a personal level,
19:45 it can take me up to an hour to mix that session.
19:48 AI can do it in less than 15 seconds.
19:51 And so it's like, why wouldn't I want to use that
19:54 and give a better value to my Braintap users?
19:57 And then they can have their own voice.
19:59 And if they want my voice for their words,
20:02 there's going to actually be my voice in there
20:04 if they want that, or they can pick out
20:06 any of the other voices that have given us permission to use
20:09 because now that's so easy.
20:12 And a lot of people think of it as like, this a bad thing,
20:16 but I think our future is much brighter than people think
20:20 as far as being positive.
20:22 Because again, a lot of the things,
20:25 AI is going to help us solve the problems
20:27 we have in this world.
20:28 Like number one, the reality is
20:30 that we're not overpopulated.
20:33 We could put every person on earth in the state of Texas
20:36 and have more room than they have in Japan.
20:39 Put that into your mind and think about it.
20:41 It's a mismanagement of our resources.
20:44 And the problem is that we have greed mongers
20:47 that are managing our resources.
20:48 When you go to Chick-fil-A, for instance,
20:50 which everybody thinks is such a great place,
20:53 they are one of the biggest polluters on the planet
20:55 because no matter if you eat inside of their facility
20:58 or you get it to go, you get styrofoam
21:01 and a bunch of crap.
21:03 So is it really a Christian-based organization?
21:07 I don't think so.
21:08 Because why wouldn't they take care of the planet?
21:12 I mean, they are wasting,
21:13 and that's just one junk food facility.
21:16 One of the things I looked at, like AI manages,
21:19 it's a shipping container that you can get delivered
21:22 to your place like we have here.
21:24 It costs about $10,000.
21:26 It has grew lights, it has AI,
21:28 and it manages your growing cycles for three seasons.
21:31 And you can make up to $60,000 a month
21:34 selling your vegetables to local restaurants.
21:37 And you can have it for your own community.
21:39 Now that's a shipping container
21:41 that can feed up to 200 people.
21:43 So imagine we have the technology.
21:46 So people are looking in all the wrong places.
21:48 I mean, sci-fi is fun, but it also can be scary.
21:51 Look at Stephen King or whatever,
21:52 where he's writing all these novels.
21:53 People are reading these crazy novels
21:55 that are just scaring the pants off them,
21:57 but they can't get enough
21:58 because they're addicted to the fear.
22:01 - But can fear be enjoyed in moderate doses
22:05 without providing a negative outcome?
22:08 'Cause I've gotta admit,
22:09 I'm the first one to love horror movies,
22:13 love horror movies,
22:14 but I also meditate three times a day.
22:17 Can we enjoy those doses?
22:21 - Oh yeah, the one thing I don't think
22:23 people should listen to before they go to bed,
22:25 they should have a couple hours before that.
22:27 The main reason is the subconscious likes to use
22:30 that last piece of information.
22:31 Like if you're like me,
22:33 you fall asleep on the couch
22:34 and you're watching a war movie
22:35 and pretty soon you're in the war,
22:37 but your brain's trying to figure it out
22:38 'cause it doesn't know the difference
22:39 between real or imagined.
22:41 But if you're just enjoying it for pure,
22:43 there is always mindless entertainment.
22:45 That's great, that takes,
22:46 you wanna, that's what I'm saying,
22:47 break it up a little bit,
22:48 break up what you're doing
22:50 so the brain doesn't get locked into these patterns.
22:52 And of course, fear is a great motivator.
22:55 - I have to ask you a question.
22:56 One thing that I've noticed
22:57 because I've been working on this book
22:59 and I'm in chapter nine,
23:02 I feel like I'm almost in a state of hypnosis
23:04 every single day.
23:06 And there's a point that I get to
23:09 where I feel like I wanna get out of it.
23:12 Is that kind of an unhealthy thing
23:16 to be doing even that too much?
23:18 - Well, there's a saying,
23:22 "When you're so heavenly proud, you're no earthly good."
23:25 So the main thing is
23:27 doing whatever you're doing in moderation
23:29 because unless you're a guru living on a mountaintop
23:32 and that's all you do all day and that's your career,
23:35 I choose to go to sleep around 10 o'clock at night
23:38 so I can get up early enough
23:39 to do all my personal care in the morning,
23:43 get up at five or six in the morning
23:45 and do my two hours of what I wanna do.
23:48 But if I could, I would do that all day.
23:49 I would just stay in my biohacking lab
23:52 and just go from one thing to the next
23:53 and the next to the next.
23:55 But I think that eventually
23:57 you're not gonna get a return on that investment of time.
23:59 We're social beings.
24:01 So whatever we do, we need to...
24:04 I believe that in order to get fulfillment in this world,
24:08 and this is just my personal belief,
24:09 there's no evidence that backs it,
24:11 but I think that whatever you're going through,
24:13 whatever you make it through,
24:14 you went through that dark night of the soul
24:16 so that you could train, motivate
24:18 and keep other people from making those same mistakes.
24:22 So because we're all in this together,
24:24 there's no...
24:25 We found out over the last three years
24:28 that isolating ourselves is not good.
24:30 I mean, look, the suicide rates are not going down,
24:33 they're going up.
24:34 And part of it is because we're not socializing
24:37 as much as we should.
24:38 And I mean, with the propaganda now saying
24:41 that our sun is not even healthy,
24:43 well, we wouldn't even be here without our sun.
24:46 So it's not that the sun isn't healthy,
24:47 it's just the exposure to the sun
24:49 and the right times to be exposed to it
24:51 and things like that, just using that as one example.
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25:08 Now, back to the show.
25:10 - Do you think we can become too obsessed with this?
25:12 Because in the last few years,
25:15 I mean, we talk about the media's negative effects
25:18 on our mental state,
25:19 but we've also seen health professionals go hardcore,
25:23 like, "Do not eat a banana, don't eat a mango,
25:25 there's too much sugar."
25:26 Like, there's all of these different things there.
25:29 And I'm meeting younger generations now
25:31 that are almost paranoid about everything.
25:34 And instead of finding that balance,
25:36 do you think that some in the health industry
25:38 have gone too far recently?
25:40 - Yeah, I mean, look at Steve Jobs.
25:42 He died of pancreatic cancer.
25:45 And when the guy who was playing Kim Embers
25:48 named Kusher or whatever,
25:50 he was playing his role for the movie,
25:52 so he started to eat like him.
25:53 He started to develop pancreatic cancer.
25:57 Now, Steve Jobs was a fruitarian.
25:59 So you'd think that would be healthy, but it isn't.
26:03 If you think, we used to only have fruits
26:05 when they were in season.
26:07 Now we can go to the grocery store any time of the year,
26:09 we can get fruits.
26:10 And so I think that it's all about,
26:13 if we just went back to what we were doing
26:16 in the '40s and '50s, as far as food was concerned,
26:18 there probably wouldn't be a weight problem.
26:20 But with manufacturing foods and additives,
26:23 and then people go, "All sugar is bad."
26:24 Well, we need sugar too.
26:27 But I think some people,
26:28 because their body's out of regulation,
26:30 they just have one mango, like you're saying,
26:32 and all of a sudden sugar spikes and they can't function.
26:35 You know, I think everything's in moderation again.
26:39 Most people don't realize the best thing
26:41 you can do for your health.
26:42 If you don't do anything else, you just eat less.
26:45 Most people eat too much.
26:46 And it's not about, are you eating too much mangoes?
26:49 I mean, I love it when people take something
26:51 that's totally natural and start saying it's bad for you.
26:53 Like even kale, which we all have a good buddy
26:56 that talks about kale being bad.
26:57 Well, that's because you didn't prepare it correctly.
27:00 If you prepare correctly,
27:01 it's perfectly healthy and natural,
27:03 but everybody's always looking for a reason to stun people
27:06 or to shock them, their social media post or their reads.
27:10 And I'm not saying that everybody should be a fruit,
27:12 I don't think anybody should be a fruitarian.
27:14 I don't think anybody should be a vegetarian actually,
27:16 because I've not seen too many,
27:17 and this might ruffle some feathers out there,
27:19 but I haven't seen too many healthy vegetarians.
27:22 And they love to say,
27:23 well, look at the gorillas, they're vegetarians.
27:25 Well, they don't live in a city
27:27 and they don't do the things that we do.
27:29 We have to eat, we have to engineer our meals
27:32 and our work life and our play life to our environment.
27:36 And I think that we're evolving.
27:38 We're not going backwards.
27:39 Nobody's gonna get rid of their cell phones tomorrow.
27:42 Nobody's gonna get rid of their 500 channels of television
27:45 or their motorized cars,
27:46 their electric cars and things like that.
27:49 I think technology and AI
27:51 is going to help us solve those problems.
27:53 I mean, they say that if a space-faring civilization
27:57 came to earth today, we would be barbarians.
27:59 We wouldn't be on their scale of evolution
28:01 because we don't even use 1% of the energy
28:03 that hits our planet.
28:04 So if we are really going to evolve as a species,
28:09 we need to stop burning, stop polluting our planet
28:13 and start using the free energy.
28:16 And they actually have these grow machines
28:18 that almost look like Star Trek
28:19 where they're growing things out of the air
28:21 instead of planting them in the soil and things like that.
28:24 So we're in the brink of seeing something
28:26 absolutely phenomenal happen.
28:28 As long as we stay on track and we stay positive
28:31 and we don't go negative and start warring over this new AI.
28:35 Some people are gonna use AI to try to control us.
28:37 And like with this credit score stuff and things like that,
28:41 social credit scores.
28:42 And so the thing is that you just have to either play into it
28:45 or play against it.
28:46 And I'm gonna play into the joy
28:49 and the health and the happiness.
28:50 I'm gonna buck as hard as I can
28:53 against all the negative stuff.
28:55 - So let me ask you a question.
28:57 If someone was to use AI to train on all of your materials
29:02 and reproduce a book based on everything that you'd learned,
29:06 would you be okay with that?
29:07 - Oh yeah.
29:10 I think that we need to,
29:11 I mean, there's a lot of wisdom out there in the world.
29:14 Right now, unfortunately,
29:16 our society does not really value
29:19 the wisdom of the everyday people.
29:21 Like if you and I went and visited
29:23 one of these assisted living facilities,
29:25 I guarantee you we would walk out of there
29:27 with enough information to write an encyclopedia
29:31 of wonderful wisdom,
29:32 but it's not being captured, saved, categorized, organized
29:35 so it can be utilized.
29:37 That's the key, right?
29:38 So the problem is it's all decentralized.
29:41 So I think what AI is gonna do
29:42 is start centralizing the wisdom of the planet
29:45 as we start doing it.
29:46 And we're ever going to have a super state where,
29:50 like today, I mean,
29:51 when I look at my grandchildren going to school
29:53 and they didn't learn cursive,
29:54 but I'm thinking, why do they need to learn cursive?
29:58 I think it's a good thing to learn.
29:59 I mean, I hardly write in cursive anymore.
30:02 And if I do write notes,
30:03 I have a notepad that translates it into digital.
30:06 (laughs)
30:06 It's fine.
30:07 Here we go.
30:08 - But doesn't an activity like that
30:10 help with neuroplasticity though?
30:12 'Cause there's certain things with AI,
30:13 'cause obviously when you're talking about
30:16 the assisted living facilities,
30:17 we can, there's now digital necromancy
30:20 that we can do with AI and bring a loved one back to life,
30:24 which I'm not sure if I'm for that
30:26 because you could start the grieving process all over again.
30:30 But aren't some of those traditional things
30:32 that we used to do good for neuroplasticity
30:35 that will help us to adapt in the coming years?
30:39 - I think if our schools were to change
30:41 and teach us how to write with both hands,
30:44 I would be truly on board with that.
30:46 Everything our school does is to polarize us
30:49 into being either right-handed or left-handed.
30:52 And really that shuts down our creativity function
30:55 in the brain and our logical function
30:56 because now it puts them at war.
30:58 In fact, there's evidence that shows
31:01 that schools are what causes us
31:02 to lose our photographic memory.
31:05 Every child is born with photographic memory.
31:08 When you learned a language,
31:09 you didn't sit down with a book and learn that language,
31:11 you absorbed that language.
31:13 And I just always use the example of my science officer.
31:17 We were in India for three weeks
31:18 on a tour of the universities,
31:20 talking about light, sound, and vibration and that.
31:22 And by the end of the third week, he's speaking Hindi.
31:26 And I said, "Francisco, when did you learn Hindi?"
31:28 He said, "Well, we've been here for three weeks."
31:31 But he knows six languages.
31:33 So his brain is actually hardwired to learn language.
31:36 Some people have that propensity right there.
31:38 They're basically, they can learn languages very quickly.
31:41 Where if you shut down that circuit in your brain,
31:44 I think hopefully what's gonna happen,
31:47 and it's my kind of fantasy, I guess you'd say,
31:50 is that this AI thing is gonna free us up
31:53 to have more spiritual pursuits
31:55 and to create a life for people to have more buckets.
32:00 Problem is, how do we balance out this greed factor
32:02 that we have or that we need so much money
32:05 to pay for our rent and buy our cars?
32:07 And we need a new car every four years or whatever.
32:10 And we need new clothes every time.
32:12 I mean, if you read in the history of people before,
32:17 in the 1800s, if they had one suit,
32:19 they were considered rich.
32:20 So most people have a lot of clothes, right?
32:23 And a lot of things that, in fact,
32:25 we build storage centers all over the planet
32:28 to store all the stuff that we don't wanna get rid of
32:30 that we've gathered around ourselves.
32:32 And I think that there's a lot wrong with what we're doing.
32:36 And I think that if we stay the course
32:38 and keep in terms of having gratitude and compassion
32:42 and not giving people freebies,
32:44 I think that that's the worst thing for the human spirit
32:47 is to just give people away, give things to people.
32:50 There's something, even like birthing, for instance,
32:53 if a baby is not born through the birth channel,
32:56 they do not turn off their primitive reflexes.
32:58 And as a neurological expert in working
33:01 with a lot of the therapists out there,
33:04 that's the reason we have all the problems we have today
33:06 is doctors are now scheduling births
33:08 instead of letting the baby come at the time
33:10 when the baby's ready and the mother's ready.
33:13 Because as we go through that birth channel,
33:15 that stress, that challenge to the nervous system
33:19 is actually what models their neuroplasticity
33:23 from the very beginning.
33:24 They don't get that challenge.
33:25 If they don't get that stress,
33:27 then there's problems down the road.
33:30 And Feldenkrais, who's a, it's a process,
33:33 he would do something called cross crawl
33:35 or have you go back in time and kind of act
33:37 like you're being reborn again and things like that,
33:39 because those are all things that we need.
33:42 And they seem spooky to us,
33:44 but I don't think we're ever gonna be decanting babies
33:47 out of jars and like you see in sci-fi movies
33:50 and having the same thing,
33:51 unless there's a way we can trigger these primitive reflexes
33:54 and get our neurological system on board
33:56 because our brain does not function well
33:59 if we don't go through the natural birthing process.
34:02 We have to then go back and they'll go to these,
34:05 especially these neurologically based chiropractors
34:08 that can trigger these primitive reflexes
34:10 and get the body to then transform
34:13 and start to evolve the way it's designed.
34:15 - But can you actually do that later in life
34:18 or can typical trauma cause that?
34:22 - Well, trauma can actually re-trigger primitive reflexes.
34:26 For sure, if you've ever known anybody that had a trauma
34:29 and then now they have their, there's a reflex we have,
34:32 like if you've ever been driving with somebody
34:33 and every time you put on the brakes
34:35 or get close to somebody, they're going,
34:36 they're always freaking out,
34:38 that's a primitive reflex problem
34:40 because they're not able to process.
34:42 And so you can disengage that,
34:45 but trauma can, like PTSD, it doesn't have to be military.
34:50 I mean, just what happened three years ago
34:51 could be enough PTSD for a lot of people.
34:53 If you were sequestered in your own home,
34:56 you didn't see your family and people you knew were dying,
34:59 that triggered those kind of primitive reflexes
35:02 to shut down because that's why people,
35:05 when they get really in a bad situation,
35:07 they'll go back into the fetal position
35:09 because that's basically the body
35:11 just reverting back to its primitive self.
35:15 - And what's occurring in the brain
35:16 when we experience trauma, for example,
35:19 one thing that I've been interested in the last few weeks
35:21 is what brain frequencies are we in
35:25 when we're in a high state of anxiety?
35:27 Is that a high gamma?
35:29 Would that be correct?
35:31 - No, you'd be between 20 and 40 Hertz frequency typically,
35:34 that's high beta, which you never hardly go to.
35:37 It's almost like an uncharted area of the brain
35:39 that most people don't operate in those,
35:42 that 20 to 40 is almost like the desert for the brain.
35:45 Very few people operate in that range,
35:48 but when we have a heightened state of trauma,
35:51 the body will imprint.
35:53 And the main reason it does that is the body,
35:56 it's basically we're designed to stay alive.
35:58 So it's looking at things that harm us.
36:00 And it doesn't know the difference between physical harm
36:03 and emotional harm or psychological harm.
36:05 It just knows that it's harm.
36:07 And the brain will start to shut down
36:10 and basically turn off all those creativity circuits
36:13 and all those expanded consciousness circuits.
36:16 And even past memory circuits,
36:19 that's why people go, "I knew better.
36:21 Why did I do this?"
36:22 Well, those circuits were shut down.
36:24 You were literally locked out of that program
36:27 that was encoded into your biological system
36:30 because mainly a lot of people don't know
36:33 if you get addicted to dopamine, it's not an end result.
36:36 Dopamine never gives you a solution.
36:39 Dopamine is an adjutant.
36:40 So it's designed to get you to do something,
36:42 but it doesn't have a reward.
36:45 There's no reward with dopamine.
36:46 That's why people get addicted to things.
36:48 So in the brain, and then what it does,
36:50 it causes neoprenephrine and cortisol.
36:53 Those actually shrink your hempacampus.
36:56 So, and that means it restricts blood flow and circulation.
37:00 But if you could slow down during that time,
37:02 that's why breathwork is so important.
37:04 All of these negative emotional states,
37:07 they all have that one thing in common, lack of breath.
37:10 Because you cannot, the brain cannot stay
37:12 in these excited states,
37:14 these hyper states of vigilance and breathe.
37:17 That's why the Navy SEALs do box breeding
37:21 while they're going out on deployment.
37:22 You have to liberate the brain,
37:25 but if you hold your breath,
37:27 the brain will spiral out of control like crazy.
37:30 And it'll basically, we can hallucinate.
37:33 I mean, there are so many things that can happen
37:36 at that level of the mind that aren't real,
37:38 but they're real to the person experiencing it
37:40 because everything we perceive, hear, experience,
37:44 those aren't happening outside of us
37:46 at the time of perception.
37:47 They're happening inside of us at the time of perception.
37:51 So that's why when they say the brain or the subconscious
37:55 doesn't know the difference between real or imagined.
37:57 So when you think about this prolonged effect,
38:00 the brain starts to pattern reality after that.
38:04 And we all have blind spots.
38:06 So we start to create blind spots.
38:08 If you meet somebody who's been jaded by relationships,
38:12 and then they say, all men are X or all women are X,
38:15 they start to use that kind of language.
38:17 Then the brain starts to pattern reality
38:19 after those thoughts,
38:21 because the thoughts precede the action.
38:23 And so we have to have the thought first, then the action.
38:27 So the thought sets it up.
38:29 Now, when we get an emotional charge,
38:31 like a negative charge, especially,
38:33 and the amygdala gets hijacked,
38:35 who's thinking the thought?
38:38 It's not your conscious mind.
38:39 It's not your reasoning mind.
38:41 It's that reactionary mind that says, we need to survive.
38:43 We're not safe anymore.
38:45 And then that's a bad state to be in.
38:47 That's where anxiety escalates and fear,
38:50 then depression, and then bad things happen.
38:53 - It's interesting with social media,
38:55 especially around dopamine.
38:57 One thing I observed in myself, I'm a constant observer.
39:00 I'll just observe my emotions
39:02 without placing any kind of name to it
39:07 to see how I'm ebbing and flowing.
39:09 But one thing I observed as I was researching AI
39:12 more and more, I noticed that to remain calm,
39:16 because the updates are hitting multiple times a day,
39:19 every single day, I did have to elevate myself
39:23 to meditating three times a day
39:25 to have those certain breaks.
39:27 Are you concerned that the current state we're in,
39:31 in terms of we're so hooked into social media,
39:35 are you concerned that we're not doing enough
39:39 to educate our youth on the implications of social media
39:43 and the neurochemistry involved in that?
39:45 - Right, I mean, we have a group
39:48 that actually I'm working with to use HRV.
39:52 If you saw what happens to someone's brain
39:54 when they get into social media or computer games,
39:57 now, if it's positive,
39:58 if they're having a good time, that's fine.
40:01 But if you start, like, if we have people
40:03 that look at negative posts and how you react
40:06 and how that upsets the mindset,
40:09 and then when you play single-shooter games
40:11 and things like that,
40:12 their brain looks like they're on crack cocaine.
40:14 It's like, it's terrible.
40:16 So what we're looking at,
40:17 and there's a group that I'm with
40:20 that wants to use our algorithms,
40:22 that says once the heart rate goes down,
40:24 let's say by 20 points, which only takes about an hour,
40:27 then the computer actually shuts down
40:31 and they would have to do a brain tap session.
40:34 And this is something we're creating through brain taps
40:36 so that a parent can put it on for their children,
40:38 because I'm not against computer games.
40:39 I'm just against, just like scary movies,
40:42 if you wanna watch them, that's fine,
40:43 but you should know what that's doing
40:44 to your neurological system.
40:46 And then when you're done, you need to kickstart it back.
40:48 Like, you're doing the meditations and things
40:50 where that's offsetting it,
40:51 so now you're getting the two extremes.
40:53 And that's what I'm saying.
40:54 It's exercising the brain.
40:55 When we exercise our bodies,
40:57 and there's a supreme, these elite athletes,
41:00 and they push their bodies to the brink of breakdown,
41:04 and then recovery is key there.
41:06 If they don't recover, and the next time they do that,
41:09 they'll just keep breaking down,
41:10 they're breaking down, breaking down.
41:11 That's what happens like with Tour de France.
41:12 They need to have a way, 'cause that's so severe
41:15 and so challenging to the human body
41:18 that they're always looking for ways.
41:19 And that's why, like with BrainTap,
41:22 we just partnered with TB12, which is Tom Brady's group.
41:25 They're the ones going to the sports world
41:28 because we need prehab.
41:30 And that's what we call BrainTap.
41:31 You need to prehab before you do these things,
41:33 not just rehab.
41:34 Don't wait till the accident happens.
41:37 And even in life,
41:38 we don't need a breakdown to have a breakthrough.
41:40 We should be looking for breakthroughs
41:42 without the breakdown.
41:43 - So doubling back to something
41:45 that we spoke about earlier is frequency.
41:48 Now, it was the first time when I was in Manhattan,
41:51 I was at the top of the Rockefeller Center
41:53 where I noticed the hum of the air conditioning units.
41:57 Tell us about what is the effect of urban noise
42:00 on our brain frequency
42:02 and how can we negate those negative effects?
42:06 - Well, the biggest thing you can do is get grounded.
42:08 Even if that means grounding inside of your apartment
42:12 or your home or your building.
42:14 I'm out in nature right now, but if I was at home,
42:18 I have a grounding mat that I stand on all the time
42:21 because that hum, if you're hearing that hum,
42:24 that's actually a 60 Hertz hum.
42:26 That's 10 Hertz.
42:28 So that means it's alpha.
42:30 So a lot of times those put you into kind of an altered
42:32 state when you're listening to them.
42:34 Now, if it's dirty power,
42:37 which unfortunately happens all the time,
42:40 like if you had a volt ohm meter
42:42 for anybody out there wondering,
42:43 gosh, do I have dirty power?
42:45 Get a volt ohm meter.
42:46 They're not very much money,
42:47 $20 at Lowe's or one of these stores
42:50 and put it on volt ohm
42:52 and measure your voltage in your house, yourself.
42:55 Put it in your right hand and in your left hand.
42:57 Most people are running around with three to five volts
42:59 of energy moving through their system.
43:02 We should be zero.
43:03 We should be zero point energy.
43:06 And then take that same volt ohm meter,
43:08 walk outside barefoot in the grass.
43:11 You'll notice instantly all of that voltage
43:14 is grounded into the earth.
43:16 That's what's happening in urban America.
43:18 The average person, when we scan them at conferences,
43:21 is between three and five volts.
43:23 Even a half a volt of energy in your system
43:27 is causing interference at the cellular level,
43:30 which means you're epigenetically being altered
43:32 by that frequency.
43:34 But there are solutions for that.
43:36 There is also a lot of things you can wear,
43:38 but you need to test them.
43:40 If it doesn't put you to zero point energy,
43:42 it's not really grounding you.
43:44 It doesn't matter what they say,
43:45 what level of frequency it's doing, whatever.
43:48 And I've seen a lot of wannabe technologies.
43:51 They might work for them in the lab,
43:53 but they don't work in reality.
43:55 So if it doesn't measure on your physiology,
43:57 'cause we are energy.
43:59 Our National Institute of Health now says
44:00 that we have a biosphere.
44:02 So it used to be that was woo woo and metaphysical
44:05 and nobody could talk about it.
44:07 But now scientists are talking about it
44:09 because this urban sprawl and what you're talking about,
44:12 the energy of that's affecting our biosphere.
44:15 And so we need to be very protective
44:17 of what goes into our energy field.
44:20 And it's not a metaphysical concept anymore.
44:22 It's not the devil, it's reality.
44:25 We are energy.
44:26 So our cellular, even our cells of our body are energy.
44:29 - What does that extra energy having in the body
44:31 do to our brain frequency?
44:33 Has that been studied?
44:35 - Well, I don't know if it's specifically
44:37 been studied like that,
44:37 but we've been doing our own little study
44:39 and we've scanned about 30,000 brains
44:42 over the last 10 years.
44:43 And what we're seeing is that most people
44:46 are running around with over 60% of their brain in Delta,
44:49 meaning that their brain wants to go to sleep.
44:51 And that's what's gonna happen.
44:52 So if you think about the masses being asleep,
44:55 they might not be asleep,
44:57 but their brain certainly wants to be asleep,
45:00 which means now you're hyper suggestible,
45:03 meaning that you can be manipulated very easily
45:06 just by walking around,
45:09 letting them control your frequency.
45:11 And that's what they're doing.
45:13 - With the Delta is,
45:14 'cause obviously when the brain goes into Delta,
45:16 the BWRS activates, so the brain waste removal system.
45:20 Is that indicative of how we're not just the energy
45:24 that we've been exposed to,
45:25 but also our diets and the stress of everyday life,
45:28 it's trying to actively recover during the day as well?
45:32 - Yeah, what we find is that's really a sign of inflammation.
45:36 So it's all of those things,
45:38 on inflammation being the root cause.
45:39 So the body is saying, let's shut down and repair.
45:44 And people are saying, no,
45:45 let's do coffee, chocolate and tea,
45:48 or whatever the stimulant is.
45:50 And they just keep stimulating.
45:52 And I love it when I see people and I say,
45:53 on a scale between one and 10,
45:55 how would you rate your health?
45:57 And they put 10,
45:58 and then they're on 17 different pharmaceutical drugs.
46:01 And I'll say, you said 10, but you're on these drugs.
46:04 Oh yeah, that's why I'm a 10.
46:06 No, these are not helping you.
46:10 They're basically covering up the symptoms.
46:12 They're not the solution.
46:14 Because anything they tell you,
46:15 you've got to take this forever,
46:17 it isn't natural.
46:18 Like we need air forever.
46:20 We need protein forever.
46:22 We need, these are not,
46:25 we don't need pharmaceutical drugs forever.
46:27 They're supposed to be short-term solutions
46:29 to biological problems.
46:31 But what happens is they become biological,
46:33 there's becomes a biological need that never stops.
46:38 - Now, I want to talk about the background.
46:41 You're in an amazing location right now,
46:43 and you're working on an exciting project.
46:45 Can you tell us a little bit about that?
46:48 - Yeah, when you see out here,
46:49 we are very fortunate.
46:50 20 miles from my office,
46:53 we saw online, we were always looking for some riverfront
46:56 just for ourselves.
46:57 And this property, 88 acres became available.
47:01 And I told my wife, wow.
47:02 And the cost was like what we paid
47:04 for our house in San Francisco.
47:06 So I mean, it's like, wow.
47:09 It's crazy what you can buy here in North Carolina.
47:11 But our plan is to build a sustainable community here
47:15 for healing and health.
47:16 They will have zero radiation.
47:19 It will have zero carbon footprint
47:22 because we're going to use all of the latest
47:24 and greatest technologies.
47:26 And believe me, since I've owned this property
47:28 for three months even,
47:29 what I have seen out there in the world
47:31 can solve every one of our problems that we have on earth.
47:36 The biggest issue we have is that once you have them,
47:39 there's no money to be made.
47:41 So we have to create a whole new currency on this planet.
47:44 And the first currency we have to change
47:46 is our currency of thought,
47:48 that it is possible, that we can do it.
47:51 And I think that the biggest currency we all have
47:54 that most people don't talk about is our ATP,
47:56 our own cellular system, our energy system.
48:00 And I think that I want to have a place
48:01 where people can come rejuvenate physically,
48:04 mentally, emotionally, and even spiritually out here
48:06 because it's going to be a grounded community.
48:08 It's going to be a five-star resort,
48:11 but it's going to be basically,
48:13 I want it to be Star Trek.
48:15 Like if you were to go to another planet to heal your body,
48:17 that's what they're going to talk about.
48:19 And we're calling it Mystic Pine Sanctuary right now,
48:21 just to say a place on the map.
48:24 But we don't know what it's going to turn out to be,
48:26 but I'm looking for all,
48:27 if you're listening to this and you have a technology
48:30 you think needs to be here,
48:31 please reach out to me
48:32 because I want to have the latest and greatest.
48:34 And I'm not married to anything we have.
48:36 I want the best of the best.
48:38 And I want to provide a space where those people
48:41 that really want to, health optimization can come
48:45 and then take those things back home with them.
48:47 Because just having it here in North Carolina is one thing,
48:49 but we need this all over the planet.
48:52 We need to have energy centers where people realize
48:55 that outside of, I mean, of course,
48:57 if somebody gets injured here,
48:58 we're going to take them to the hospital.
48:59 We're not going to do that kind of work.
49:01 We're not going to have sick care here.
49:02 So sick care, they can go into the hospital,
49:04 but if they want healthcare
49:05 and they want to rejuvenate their body,
49:07 that's what I want to have here.
49:08 - And how can people find out about you?
49:10 - Well, if they go to my social media @erpatrickporter,
49:15 that's probably best.
49:16 They can also go to my website, Porter.com,
49:19 and that has all the links
49:20 and they can learn all about it.
49:21 They can follow me on social media.
49:23 We're actually doing a documentary as well
49:25 called "War on the Brain."
49:26 And we shot the footage out here
49:28 'cause we're going to show the evolution.
49:29 'Cause I think that the war,
49:31 there's no war being fought outside of the mind of man.
49:34 So we need to work on our inner space
49:38 so this external environment we live in
49:39 is more peaceful and more harmonious
49:41 and has more compassion
49:43 and creates more vitality for everyone.
49:46 - Beautiful.
49:47 Dr. Porter, it's always a pleasure to speak to you.
49:49 Thanks so much for coming on.
49:51 Learn more about Dr. Porter at drpatrickporter.com.
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