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00:00 [Sedhi's voiceover]
00:04 Hi, welcome to the podcast, Sembang Atas Dulang Season 2
00:08 with me, Sedhi, brought to you by Spritzer.
00:11 Extracted from the ground, from the source of water,
00:14 it becomes a pure and rich mineral, silica.
00:17 Introduce yourself to Spritzer.
00:20 First of all, today I am very happy because I have the goddess of war on my set.
00:25 Goddess of war with an eye, Athena, right?
00:28 I naturally, when I see Athena, I was like, oh, goddess of war, straight away.
00:31 True.
00:32 Athena, so I assume you are somebody who is...
00:35 Are you feisty? Do you fight?
00:37 Very.
00:38 Ah, no wonder you have that name.
00:40 Okay, so Athena, can you tell my audience more about you?
00:44 Okay.
00:45 Surprise me.
00:46 Because I know she has a lot.
00:47 Let me surprise you.
00:48 Are you ready for it?
00:49 Yes, yes.
00:50 Hello everyone, my name is Athena with an eye.
00:53 This is how I introduce myself to people.
00:55 Oh, I'm Athena, like Athens.
00:57 No, Athena, Athira, you know?
00:59 Just tell them, goddess of war.
01:01 So, that's my name, Athena.
01:03 I am currently a model and a content creator,
01:06 but I used to be a dancer, I used to be a pilates instructor,
01:09 I used to be a national figure skater, I used to be a cheerleader,
01:12 and I used to be everything all at once.
01:14 Okay, oh wow, Michelle Yeoh, you lost.
01:17 That's my award.
01:19 Okay, so when I got the brief, one of the, you know, one description is that,
01:24 "Oh, Athena is a model, a plus-size model."
01:27 Then I was like, "Plus-size? What is plus-size?"
01:30 You know, you look fine, you look, if anything right,
01:33 your body looks like jello like that.
01:35 But before that, I want to remind you,
01:37 because our show is called 'Ku Sembang Atas Dulang',
01:40 so it's basically you can eat while we, I mean like you can eat first,
01:44 then we can talk.
01:45 But model can eat?
01:46 Of course can.
01:47 Sure or not?
01:48 Every human being on this planet Earth should and can eat.
01:52 So, every idea I have about modeling is wrong,
01:55 because I'm America's Next Top Model, it's wrong.
01:57 Tyra Banks, it's your fault.
01:59 Because I thought models cannot eat, I have to starve and all.
02:02 No.
02:03 Come, let's eat.
02:04 Sure, let's eat.
02:05 Are you allergic to anything or not?
02:06 Nuts.
02:07 Okay, don't worry.
02:08 You are allergic to nuts?
02:10 What happens if you get it?
02:11 I have a very interesting story.
02:12 Okay, so I get rashes on my neck.
02:14 Let me tell you a good story about why I'm allergic.
02:16 So, growing up, I hated the taste of nuts.
02:19 I didn't like it.
02:20 You know, they are very earthy, very healthy, nutty flavour.
02:23 So, I always told people I was allergic.
02:26 It was a lie.
02:27 It was a lie.
02:29 But I grew up, and then I think when I hit 18,
02:32 when I had to eat nuts for the health of it,
02:35 I was actually allergic.
02:37 So, don't lie.
02:39 So, you see she manifested.
02:41 From the lie, it becomes a truth.
02:44 Ya.
02:45 Oh my god.
02:46 Now, I can't even eat peanut butter.
02:47 Oh, I mean like nuts.
02:49 But do you know that peanuts are actually not nuts?
02:53 Do y'all not know?
02:55 Okay, so peanuts are actually part of the legumes family.
02:58 So, it's because it has the pod.
03:00 Ya, ya, ya.
03:01 So, peanuts are not nuts.
03:03 Walnuts are nuts.
03:04 Okay.
03:05 Then, peanuts are what?
03:07 Peanuts are legumes.
03:09 There is this thing.
03:11 Basically, but then you can still get allergic to it.
03:13 I understand, totally.
03:14 But, rashes, do you get suffocation?
03:17 No, it's just like rashes in my throat.
03:19 So, before, I would always get tonsillitis because I was sick.
03:22 So, whenever I used to eat nuts,
03:24 my tonsils would always be really infected.
03:27 But, it's okay, macaroons are okay, right?
03:29 Macaroons are fine.
03:30 Let them eat cake.
03:31 There are no nuts, right?
03:32 There are no nuts, right?
03:33 Who puts nuts in cake?
03:34 Ya, man.
03:35 Do people put nuts in cake?
03:36 Yes.
03:37 Peanut butter, right?
03:38 No, people love nuts in cake.
03:40 Hazelnut.
03:41 Nutella, Nutella.
03:42 Okay, but if nut, hazelnut is not allowed?
03:45 Nutella, right?
03:46 Yes, I can.
03:47 Do you know that Nutella is not a nut?
03:51 Is it because it's processed?
03:55 Chocolate, to me, it's chocolate.
03:57 I mean, I call it chocolate.
03:58 It's good, right?
04:01 Red velvet.
04:02 Do you know that red velvet is actually chocolate?
04:05 It is.
04:06 It is?
04:07 Yeah, they just colour it red, right?
04:09 Why? Why do they colour it red?
04:10 Because things are more interesting when it's red.
04:12 That's why McDonald's is red.
04:13 Oh, yeah.
04:15 Burger King is red.
04:16 Burger King is red.
04:17 Okay, but you know what else is not red?
04:19 Spritzers!
04:20 Spritzers is green!
04:21 Go green, always.
04:22 We love.
04:23 Okay, so I want to know something about your career.
04:25 So, you are a content creator.
04:27 Yes.
04:28 And then you, wait, content creator first or modelling first?
04:31 Content creator first.
04:32 That means your modelling career is very recent.
04:36 I've just became a professional model this year.
04:39 What is a professional model?
04:41 Being a part of a modelling agency.
04:44 It's how I define it, personally.
04:46 Okay, because I feel like there's a lot of people who call themselves model.
04:49 Just because they strike a pose or two.
04:51 Sometimes I call myself model, I feel like a model.
04:54 But I am not a professional model because I'm not signed by any modelling agency.
04:58 So, when you are a content creator, what kind of content do you do?
05:03 So, at first, when I just started, up till about last year, I was very much focused on beauty.
05:09 I love skincare, I love makeup.
05:12 I'm not surprised, to be honest.
05:13 I love it.
05:14 You have very good skin.
05:16 And back then, because I like K-pop, so you know people who like K-pop are always into K-beauty, skincare, all these Korean brands.
05:23 So, I was like an enthusiast. I loved it.
05:25 When I was 15, I was doing like 12-step skincare routines.
05:30 Wait, when you were 15?
05:32 15 years old, she did 12 steps.
05:35 When I was 15, I didn't even do one step.
05:37 That's why my face was itchy.
05:39 Pimples everywhere.
05:40 Acne, acne all over.
05:42 At that time, I wanted to invest in a body shop.
05:45 My parents said, "It's expensive. Who said it can work?"
05:48 Body shop is good, by the way.
05:50 But the thing is, right, the thing is, at 15 years old, you're already...
05:53 Is it because somebody taught you about skincare?
05:57 I think it's also because I've been a dancer, right?
06:01 So, I was a dancer for so long, growing up.
06:04 I always had to wear makeup.
06:06 So, learning makeup and then removing it.
06:09 And then, my mom was always like, "Oh, you should use a little bit of sunscreen."
06:13 "You should use a little bit of face wash."
06:14 And then, over time, I was like, "Okay, I'm quite interested in it."
06:17 "Let me see what I can do with it."
06:19 We have another producer who is a skincare beauty enthusiast.
06:23 You all can hook up to talk about this.
06:25 If I talk about this, it won't end because I'm also a skincare lover and all.
06:29 So, after that, did somebody scout you to be a model?
06:32 Yeah.
06:33 So, last year, I walked my first ever runway.
06:37 I opened for KL Fashion Week, Alia Basamang's show.
06:41 I was so thankful because, again, like you said,
06:45 how are you ever going to see someone my size be on a runway?
06:48 I'm actually shortest if I do runway.
06:51 You're the shortest?
06:53 Yeah, I'm the shortest. I'm short for runway.
06:55 It's not right, supposedly.
06:57 So, when I did that, I got scouted by a Jakarta modeling agency.
07:02 They're international.
07:03 So, I signed with them first.
07:05 And then, that's when ModelsLab KL signed me after.
07:08 Boleh? You can have two?
07:10 Boleh because two different countries.
07:12 So, they represent me in two different places.
07:14 Two different countries, two different currencies.
07:16 Yes, correct.
07:18 International waters.
07:20 So, do you have to travel back and forth?
07:22 Yeah, I'm actually flying to Jakarta next week.
07:24 Okay, so just now, when you said the correct way of modeling has to be a certain height,
07:30 I always didn't like that idea.
07:33 Maybe because I'm short.
07:34 I'm considered short. I'm only 162cm.
07:37 And I feel like sometimes, there is not enough representation for short people.
07:43 But I feel like that's not really that important.
07:45 The important thing here is, because you said you're not really a plus-size model.
07:50 Because you are not.
07:52 I don't think you are.
07:54 I've seen that they are really plus-size.
07:57 Something proud to say, I put under my own brand.
08:01 So, when we started, we engaged people.
08:04 I want to make sure that people can relate.
08:07 So, I actually have a plus-size model to be part of our...
08:11 Bukan ambassador lah, but actually make a video for us.
08:14 I've seen actual plus-size model.
08:16 So, you pun kena label as that.
08:19 But do you call yourself that?
08:21 I don't.
08:24 I feel like there are other plus-size models who deserve that platform.
08:29 And who are actually plus-size models.
08:32 And I feel like in terms of work, they deserve that job a lot more.
08:37 Sometimes more than I do.
08:38 But most of the time, then we look at the brands.
08:41 What is the brand selling?
08:42 Is it clothes? Is it the face?
08:44 What is it?
08:45 That's when it gets a bit tricky.
08:47 So, has anyone ever put you in a plus-size clothes?
08:52 Yes. I think multiple times.
08:54 Multiple times?
08:55 Multiple times.
08:56 And these are sizes I don't wear.
08:58 And I'm not saying it's wrong to wear the sizes.
09:00 It's just that what fits your body best will make you feel comfortable, right?
09:04 Especially for me at a shoot that's like 8 hours long, 12 hours long.
09:08 I want to be in clothing that will make me feel good about myself sometimes.
09:12 So, when they put me in sizes like...
09:15 I wear a size ML.
09:17 Which is very average size.
09:18 But when you put me in sizes like 5XL, 6XL, you know.
09:22 This is very difficult for you to sell the clothes as what the size is.
09:28 Because I don't wear that size.
09:30 It's not going to fit my body.
09:31 M to how many L?
09:32 Like 5?
09:34 Crazy.
09:35 Then she looks like a circus tan like that.
09:39 Because her body is small.
09:42 And then you put...
09:43 It's like a child wearing a clothes from a middle-aged man.
09:46 It looks very weird.
09:47 Like the shoulder here.
09:49 Do you understand?
09:50 The shoulder will drop to here.
09:51 Because it's like big.
09:53 So, what does she want to do?
09:54 I don't know.
09:55 So, for those people who are eager to be a model,
09:59 what are the things that they need to know when they start out?
10:04 As a model, I think now the industry is a lot more progressive, a lot more accepting.
10:09 And we have so much more diversity in representation, right?
10:13 But I think to start off, you really just have to be stubborn and do.
10:17 Like many times, I'm put in situations or places where I am not comfortable.
10:23 But like the clothes, right?
10:25 The 5XL.
10:26 I'm not comfortable in it.
10:27 But can I make the best out of this?
10:29 Can I show you that I will wear this clothes and make it me?
10:32 Yes, I can.
10:33 You can.
10:34 That's something I'm going to do for you.
10:36 And I'm going to sell this clothes on my body.
10:39 But I think the most rewarding part of it is when these photos come out on these platforms.
10:44 And then I see comments, right?
10:46 And I see comments like, "Oh, finally I can buy this baju because I see it the way it is presented."
10:52 Then it makes sense to me.
10:53 So, sometimes I'm upset about the size but it retaliates with comments like that.
10:58 So, this is the true definition of like making it work.
11:04 Because you have the patience.
11:05 If I don't like it, I'll be like, "Eh, what the hell is this?
11:08 It's not nice."
11:09 And then they say in the industry, "Don't piss off the stylist because they are the ones that will make your life a living hell after that."
11:16 So, you worked like before this modeling career that happened and you were a content creator, right?
11:24 So, I mean I'm also a content creator.
11:27 So, do you have time to gossip about agency or client?
11:33 Let's talk page, shall we?
11:35 I've had this conversation with so many people over the past month.
11:41 Because I think we went to an event recently where there were many international content creators.
11:47 And they were all so surprised at how we go to events unpaid.
11:52 You see, when I tell people these things, right?
11:57 People say I'm a diva.
11:59 I'm difficult.
12:00 I'm a little bit strong.
12:02 I want to ask for payment little by little.
12:04 The thing is, it's not like I want to be paid to go to your birthday party.
12:08 That's not even the same thing.
12:10 But sometimes, to me, when you invite content creators to your event,
12:14 obviously at some point, you are expecting a little bit of buzz.
12:19 You want us to talk about you.
12:20 You want us to work.
12:22 It's not like, "Sedhi, come to my event. You don't need to post anything.
12:25 You just need to eat."
12:26 Okay, no problem. You don't need to pay me.
12:28 But it's like, you expect people to go there and work, and you're not compensating anything.
12:34 Then, what is the...
12:36 Time is money.
12:38 Time is money.
12:39 So you went to the international event, so all the creators there are paid to go there.
12:43 Most of the international creators, even them at their own home country, they get paid.
12:48 Because sometimes, we see international influencers, when they go to events,
12:52 how come they're all so dressed up, so glam,
12:56 so everything looks proper.
12:59 And you see that, "Oh, this is an influencer's event."
13:03 So, I think we always forget that as a content creator, as a KOL,
13:08 this is our job, and some of us have so much passion and interest in it
13:11 that we want to make it a full-time job.
13:13 But how can we, if the receiving end is not helpful?
13:17 Betul.
13:18 I think I have a few times I've spoken up about all this.
13:22 I'm pretty sure if you follow my social groups.
13:24 Every time I see, I'm like, "Like."
13:26 Yeah, because the thing about me is that I don't have much patience,
13:30 especially when...
13:32 So, you know, I've been called "diva",
13:35 a difficult person to work with.
13:37 To me, I stand by my point.
13:39 I'm not difficult.
13:40 It's you don't know what you want.
13:42 And I'm only difficult because I know what I want, I know my content style.
13:46 Don't tell me, "Oh, the storyline that you submit is not creative."
13:51 By whose standard?
13:53 Let's talk about plus size, right?
13:54 Who's the one that say, "Okay, what is the plus size?"
13:57 To be honest.
13:58 You know, like who said, "Oh, if you stand on the weighing machine, right?
14:01 Oh, this is your plus size."
14:03 Is that how you quantify somebody's plus size?
14:05 Or what? I don't know.
14:07 It's like somebody say, "Oh, your video is not creative.
14:10 Your storyline is not creative."
14:12 Then you got to help me.
14:14 What is it that you want?
14:15 Clearly, someone who said that doesn't have the same vision as me.
14:20 Then you tell me your vision.
14:22 Or when they don't send a deck.
14:23 Or when they don't send pictures, references.
14:27 And then once you put in what you think is best for that particular item.
14:32 They're like, "Oh, no. This doesn't scream our brand."
14:35 Then what screams your brand?
14:36 You scream at me. Tell me.
14:38 And then when they ask to reshoot, it's like...
14:41 Reshoot, you don't want to pay?
14:43 Like you guys forget that time is money.
14:46 We have so many other things to do.
14:48 And it's not in a sense that we have so many better things to do.
14:51 It's not in a diva like, "Oh, she has so many things to do."
14:55 It's not like that.
14:56 It's like we have things to do from a day-to-day basis.
14:59 Because we need to live.
15:01 So, are you like a full-time content creator?
15:03 I'm a full-time content creator, full-time model.
15:06 Full-time model.
15:07 Between being a model and a content creator, which one is your preference?
15:12 I love being a model.
15:15 I love being a model.
15:16 But the reason I love being a model is because of what I stand for.
15:20 So, from the beginning, as a model, as someone who is put in front of cameras
15:25 and having their photos taken all the time,
15:27 what I stand for is always to believe that no matter your size,
15:30 no matter what you look, you can do it if you let yourself shine through.
15:34 So, I'm a very personality-based person.
15:37 So, I do believe that a lot of brands take me for the person I am.
15:42 And I feel like that is very important if you want to kickstart your journey,
15:46 even as a content creator, even as a model.
15:48 So, when you are a model, people say, "Oh, this model doesn't have a personality."
15:52 How do you show that?
15:53 I mean, now, social media presence.
15:57 For me, vulnerability plays such a big part in my life.
16:01 I'm not afraid to show times that I'm weak, times that I'm sad, times that I'm happy.
16:06 I think these are celebratory things that every human being should go through.
16:10 When you cry, you know something good is going to happen after.
16:13 When you're upset, you know something is going to be rewarding after that.
16:17 You're always constantly learning and growing.
16:19 How old are you? Because you sound like a very wise woman.
16:23 Thank you.
16:24 Like, "Oh my God."
16:26 How old do you think I am? Okay, how old do I look?
16:28 This is a question you do not want to...
16:30 Okay, I can actually answer. You know why?
16:34 Because usually, I am always the oldest.
16:36 So, it's easier for me to say, "Are you 23? 20?"
16:40 I'm turning 25 tomorrow.
16:43 Oh! Happy birthday in advance!
16:46 But the time video is up, right?
16:48 It's already your birthday.
16:49 I'm already 25.
16:50 Oh, 25! So, I said 23.
16:52 Is it around there?
16:53 Almost.
16:54 But you talk like my age cannot.
16:56 I don't know. A lot of people tell me that.
16:58 But maybe because I've always been around people who talk like this.
17:01 "Oh, let's talk about the world."
17:04 Okay, world time.
17:05 That means you're not like those people.
17:08 No, but some people...
17:11 Okay, I have a thing that I do.
17:13 Let me just tell you real quick.
17:14 Some people don't like to seem like they're stupid.
17:19 Okay.
17:20 So, I give them the benefit of allowing them to feel like they're right.
17:25 Okay.
17:26 But I know they're not.
17:28 You're actually stupid.
17:30 I'm like, "Oh, really?"
17:32 But in your head, it's like...
17:34 No, I don't think you know what you're saying, right?
17:36 It's fine. I'll let it pass.
17:38 Actually, I have something I wanted to ask you.
17:41 Have we met at any events before?
17:43 Yes, we have.
17:44 You told me I look like a flasher at Uniqlo.
17:47 Oh my god!
17:50 So, that was her.
17:51 Okay, when I say flasher, she's not like a pervert.
17:53 She was wearing an oversized trench coat.
17:56 So, you know in cartoons, they'll do that.
17:59 Yeah, I was walking and then he just arrived.
18:02 And I was like, "Hi!"
18:03 And then you're like, "You look like a flasher. You look so nice."
18:05 I'm like, "Thank you."
18:07 At least, follow up with, "You look so nice."
18:09 If not, I'll be like, "You look like a flasher. You look like a pervert."
18:12 I got it. I got it.
18:14 So, Sadie called me a pervert out of nowhere.
18:17 That's so random.
18:19 That's because it's winter clothes.
18:22 So, you've been to fashion events.
18:25 There was an incident on TikTok.
18:29 During somebody said, they've met a arrogant influencer.
18:33 Have you met any before?
18:35 I wouldn't say.
18:37 I've never met one who's really arrogant and arrogant and stuff.
18:41 But I've met people who won't say hi to people lower than them.
18:45 Oh, yes.
18:47 Yeah, like of a different status or a different...
18:49 What status?
18:50 Actually, if you follow your followers, you can buy it.
18:53 Okay, does follow count even matter anymore?
18:55 Exactly.
18:56 I want to tell all brands,
18:58 don't look at me and say,
19:00 "Oh, Sadie, actually, we cannot pick you because you don't have 1 million followers."
19:04 Okay, sorry.
19:06 First of all, I don't like to buy. I buy followers.
19:08 And two is, you want to judge my work ethics, my professionalism,
19:14 and based on my follower count.
19:16 So, I don't want to make stupid content.
19:19 I don't like to do all those content that will just to get viral.
19:22 Yeah.
19:23 You know, I like to do proper stuff.
19:25 And because I don't have a million followers,
19:27 you treat me like I'm a nobody.
19:30 And let's be real here.
19:31 Sometimes, I've met people who flex their follower count.
19:36 I've met someone who said,
19:39 "You know, as somebody like me that has a million followers,
19:44 I'm also verified."
19:46 They have to tell you. I don't know why. I never ask.
19:48 Okay.
19:49 But when we go to events together, nobody knows who they are.
19:53 And then people are like, "Oh my god, Sadie!"
19:55 I'm like, "Aren't you a verified million followers?"
20:00 What happened? Nobody knows who you are.
20:02 That's right.
20:04 I think when we make content,
20:06 whether it's verified or not with a lot of followers,
20:09 I think you and me, as content creators,
20:12 we make things very organic.
20:13 Yeah.
20:14 And at least we want it to be like,
20:16 it's not stupid.
20:18 It has to have something in it.
20:21 Because we want people to remember us for the work that we do.
20:23 Yeah.
20:24 Like, "This person is just going to get viral."
20:27 So, yeah.
20:29 You are right about people who look at you and then
20:32 follow you.
20:34 First of all, you have to be busy.
20:36 You have to go and care about people's media.
20:39 Also, another thing.
20:40 One thing about influencer events that I personally don't really like
20:45 is that when you go there,
20:47 a lot of these people who never follow you,
20:49 they'll go, "I love you! Oh my god, I'm a big fan! I love you so much!"
20:55 But if you just met last night,
20:59 just met each other yesterday,
21:01 and then just see each other again tomorrow,
21:03 "I love you! Oh my god!"
21:05 Like a cattle.
21:07 It's like, "Hello!"
21:09 And then they don't even follow you.
21:12 Have you met these people before?
21:13 Of course.
21:14 Okay.
21:15 They'll be like, "Oh, I love you so much. I love what you do. I love what you stand for."
21:19 And when I ask, "What do I stand for?"
21:21 And they're like, "Oh, I always see your TikToks and Instagram."
21:25 And I'm like, "You're not answering my question."
21:26 But okay, come.
21:27 So, what's next for you?
21:29 What's next in your career, journey?
21:31 I really love modeling.
21:33 And I feel like I want to be here in the industry
21:35 when we've progressed into the whole body positivity, acceptance type of thing.
21:40 So, I want to be here for it.
21:41 So, what's next for me is really focusing on modeling.
21:45 Whatever that gets on my plate,
21:47 whatever job opportunities I will receive.
21:49 Good, good.
21:50 Have you thought about acting?
21:52 No.
21:53 Eh?
21:54 I haven't thought about acting yet.
21:55 Have you thought about it?
21:56 I've thought about it.
21:57 But you don't want?
21:58 But maybe not here.
22:00 It's scary a bit.
22:02 You have heard stories, is it?
22:04 Stories or as the model that I am, I've received those kind of comments.
22:10 Oh.
22:11 Imagine when it's on a bigger screen.
22:14 But here's the thing.
22:15 I feel like if you get the blessings, don't turn it down.
22:19 Correct.
22:20 Don't turn it down because sometimes it's good to just rub it on them.
22:23 Rub it in their faces.
22:25 I mean, I feel like there's only one reason why somebody would say that to you.
22:30 They're just jealous.
22:31 Correct.
22:32 Insecure.
22:33 It's also a note to myself because sometimes I also get triggered.
22:35 When I read the comments, I was like, "Eh, you're brave.
22:37 Oh my God, if I can reach you, if I can know who you are, you'll know."
22:41 But that's life.
22:43 But what helps for me is, basically, my mom and I, we're best friends.
22:48 I tell my mom everything.
22:49 She's really, really close to me.
22:51 So, growing up, she's always been that person.
22:53 "It's fine, Athena. They're just envious of you."
22:55 "Oh, it's fine, Athena. They're just jealous of you."
22:57 So, growing up, I always had that thought in my head.
22:59 So, no matter what triggers me, I know later on, I'll be like, "Oh, they're probably just threatening."
23:05 It's not me. It's you.
23:07 Right?
23:08 Well, thank you so much for sharing all these stories with me.
23:10 And thank you so much for standing for what you stand for.
23:13 So, the next time, when you see her and say, "I like what you stand for," please follow up with, like,
23:20 "What does she stand for?"
23:22 She stands for, like, body positivity, representation, vulnerability, personality.
23:32 And if you're a celebrity, don't be busy telling people that you're fat or whatever.
23:35 Mind your own business.
23:36 Yeah, honestly.
23:38 So, please tell everybody where can they contact you.
23:41 Oh, don't contact. Where can they find you?
23:43 I'm scared.
23:44 You can find me on Instagram, @athenacamarudin.
23:47 Camarudin is 1R1D1N.
23:52 And you can find me on TikTok as well, @athenacamarudin.
23:57 Yes.
23:58 Okay.
23:59 So, you guys, wait for the next episode of Pokat Sembang Atas Dulang Season 2 with me, Seri,
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