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00:00 So today Pakistan is playing its last match because we are not going to the semi-final.
00:05 So obviously we are coming back home.
00:07 But why did this happen?
00:09 We have with us an expert sports analyst, Najeeb Ul Hastain.
00:13 Najeeb, how are you?
00:15 Walaikum Assalam. Thank you for having me.
00:19 Najeeb, we did not reach the semi-final.
00:23 We are disappointed. How disappointed are we?
00:25 What happened? Why did this happen?
00:27 Where did we make mistakes?
00:30 This is a very long answer to this question.
00:34 I can only tell you that we were not prepared for it.
00:38 If you are going to play the World Cup in India, you cannot spin.
00:41 You cannot play the spin.
00:43 This is a major issue.
00:45 Along with that, your entire team prepares for the World Cup for 4 years.
00:51 Your performance is to see yourself in the rankings.
00:55 What was the benefit of ranking number 1?
00:59 You got exposed here.
01:01 The teams that were coming to you were not full strength.
01:04 Everyone says that this is not your fault.
01:07 But your fault is that when the teams were not full strength,
01:10 you would have strengthened your bench.
01:12 You would have tried other players.
01:14 They would have got the option.
01:16 Your team would have been prepared for the World Cup.
01:18 So there was no preparation when you would go there without preparation.
01:22 You would have played with the players of your choice.
01:25 You would have fed your friends.
01:27 This is what would have happened.
01:29 We have seen a lot of problems since the Asia Cup.
01:34 But we did not recover them.
01:36 We did not have any backup.
01:38 So, who do you think is responsible for this?
01:42 Do you think the players are completely responsible or the team management?
01:49 The responsibility is on everyone.
01:52 First of all, it is the responsibility of your setup.
01:54 Your setup is such that you cannot grow in it.
01:59 You cannot prosper.
02:01 If you will fix it from the bottom, it will be fine later.
02:04 If you are saying that we were seeing this in the Asia Cup,
02:07 it was already too late.
02:09 You cannot make such a drastic change after the Asia Cup.
02:12 If you would have done, then everyone would have blamed you
02:14 that your team was so good, it was number 1.
02:17 Why did you make such a mistake?
02:19 And because of that, this is the result.
02:21 I understand that when you gave them 3 years, 3.5 years,
02:25 this was the team you played with.
02:27 And this is what you played with.
02:29 And the result was expected in front of you.
02:31 If you ask any expert in Pakistan, any former cricketer,
02:35 before the World Cup, in your 4 teams,
02:38 then perhaps, Pakistan could have been a dream.
02:42 But if we talk practically, none of the teams were Pakistan
02:47 before the World Cup.
02:49 Because we knew what was going on, what was happening,
02:52 what was the scenario.
02:54 Because of this, Pakistan had very few chances.
02:57 And Najeeb, this was not the first World Cup.
03:01 We came to the third round, Duaon, Agar Magar, Lekin,
03:05 but did not reach the semi-final.
03:07 In your opinion, what is the mistake that we are continuously making?
03:12 See, this is the mistake that every time the World Cup ends,
03:17 you have things to show off.
03:20 We have been hearing this word since childhood,
03:22 "rebuilding phase",
03:24 that we are rebuilding for the next World Cup.
03:27 This is not the case.
03:28 You don't go blind.
03:29 Things are happening in front of you.
03:31 You have to see them.
03:33 You have to identify those problems quickly
03:36 so that they are not such results.
03:38 What happens in our country is that
03:40 we saw a player who has a lot of talent and skill.
03:44 So, they gave complete authority.
03:46 They played the boys of their choice.
03:48 I understand that it is the captain's right.
03:50 But it is not like that.
03:52 You are playing the people of your choice
03:56 and taking them.
03:58 The blame will be on the captain.
04:00 Obviously, Babar Azam is a very good batsman.
04:02 But his captaincy, I say again and again,
04:05 either you are a born leader or you learn from your mistakes.
04:08 You are not able to learn.
04:10 This is why the results are like this.
04:12 So, you think Babar should learn from his mistakes.
04:15 Najeeb, stay with us.
04:17 Former Test cricketer, former captain Azhar Ali has joined us.
04:20 Azhar Ali, thank you very much.
04:22 You took out time.
04:23 In the third World Cup semi-final,
04:26 the Pakistani team has not reached.
04:28 Despite the fact that according to ICC,
04:30 we have a top-class batter and a top-class bowler.
04:34 Where do you think the mistakes have been made?
04:36 Whose mistake is it that we are facing all this today?
04:40 Look, one thing is that short-term mistakes,
04:46 we have discussed in our programs
04:49 that we did not make the team in the right way.
04:52 We did not make a backup.
04:54 But what Najeeb was talking about,
04:56 he talked about it specifically.
04:58 When we lose,
05:00 from childhood, since the cricket has started,
05:03 we lose the World Cup or something.
05:05 So the rebuilding process starts.
05:07 Actually, we do not start the process in the right way
05:10 nor do we take it in the right way.
05:12 I think the first thing that is important is
05:14 that you identify the problems,
05:16 as Najeeb said.
05:18 And to identify the problems,
05:20 the people who identify your human resources,
05:24 they should be the right personnel.
05:26 If they are only those who have their own agendas,
05:30 who want to do things in their own way,
05:33 if they come and do it,
05:35 then it means that they will produce the same kind of results.
05:39 You have to identify those people
05:41 who have come from the vision of cricket.
05:44 And first interview their vision.
05:46 Under which vision will you take cricket for the next 4-5 years?
05:50 And if you like their vision,
05:52 and they are following that vision,
05:54 then give them time.
05:55 And the captain's point that we put everything on the captain,
05:58 it is put on the captain because
06:00 if you leave everything on the captain,
06:02 then it will be put on him.
06:04 But if you see,
06:05 whether it is England or New Zealand,
06:07 it does not fall on the captain because
06:09 they run as a team.
06:10 They take responsibilities as a team
06:12 and work as a team.
06:14 It is not like giving full power to someone.
06:17 So I think there are a lot of things,
06:19 but after the World Cup is over,
06:21 don't do this,
06:22 that you make someone a sacrifice goat
06:25 and just change a few things and
06:27 then you can do it.
06:28 Okay, you are talking about sacrifice goat.
06:30 Azhar, we also saw that
06:32 during the World Cup when the matches were taking place,
06:34 the resignation of the Chief Selector came,
06:36 then a press release of PCB came.
06:38 Do you think that such incidents
06:40 also down the morale of the players?
06:43 See, Pakistan cricket is full of such issues.
06:48 There have been such issues in the past.
06:50 We also played great.
06:51 There are a lot of issues.
06:52 It is affected.
06:53 But see, when you are playing a match in the NBA,
06:56 then your focus is on the match.
06:58 But I think such things should not happen.
07:01 In a better way,
07:02 I know when things come in front,
07:04 if handled in a better way,
07:06 then it will not have so much effect.
07:08 But now all these things have happened,
07:10 but the thing that is going to happen in the future
07:12 is that if you come forward and
07:14 do your decision making well,
07:16 you are in the right way,
07:18 whatever happened, happened.
07:20 Now you take this thing as today's match
07:22 or take the previous matches,
07:23 no matter how much you discuss,
07:25 you should think about how to move forward.
07:27 We cannot make the same mistakes.
07:29 We have not learned the same from three World Cups.
07:32 If we do not learn now,
07:34 then you will be taking my paper in the next World Cup.
07:36 The GBA will be talking.
07:38 And whoever is a cricketer,
07:39 whoever is a cricketer,
07:40 they will also be talking about the same.
07:41 So I think we have to take steps.
07:43 And we have to stick to it.
07:46 We have to be patient.
07:47 If our vision is good,
07:49 then we will put 2-3 years, 4 years on it.
07:51 Then our performances will improve.
07:53 And then we will have consistency.
07:54 So Azhar, the way Najeeb was saying
07:56 that either a born leader
07:59 or he should learn from his mistakes.
08:01 In your opinion,
08:03 what should Babar do now?
08:05 Should Babar continue to be the captain?
08:07 Because when Babar did the press conference,
08:10 he was saying that
08:11 because of the pressure of the captain,
08:12 my performance did not deteriorate.
08:14 So do you think that
08:15 he can carry both these things together?
08:17 Look, I think Babar can decide better.
08:22 It is not good for me to sit here and give advice.
08:25 I think Babar knows better.
08:28 Babar should know better
08:29 what will work for him,
08:31 what is better for the team.
08:32 He should decide accordingly.
08:34 And we should respect his decision.
08:36 And the decision that the BCB takes,
08:38 that is the right of the BCB.
08:40 But I will not sit here and give any advice to Babar.
08:43 Anyway, cricket is what Pakistan has to move forward.
08:47 So make the decision in the right way.
08:49 If a captain changes,
08:52 things will not be solved.
08:54 So what steps should be taken immediately?
08:58 Look, immediately,
09:00 sit down and talk to such cricketers
09:03 who are new to cricket.
09:06 I am not saying T20 cricket.
09:08 Bring fresh minds.
09:10 Who will give you fresh feed.
09:12 You see the same people again and again.
09:14 I do not disrespect them.
09:16 They have served Pakistan cricket a lot.
09:18 They have already done a lot of work.
09:22 They will come again and again.
09:27 And they will make mistakes again and again.
09:29 We need fresh minds because
09:31 some things people do not understand.
09:34 What kind of setup we need in National Cricket Academy.
09:38 What kind of domestic we need.
09:39 For the better setup of National Cricket Academy,
09:43 you think we should sit together,
09:45 sit and talk and then decide.