Arkansas Razorbacks' coach Sam Pittman's complete press conference Monday afternoon on decision to fire Dan Enos and move Kenny Guiton from wide receivers to calling plays.
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00:00 Good afternoon, I think the first thing and maybe I can
00:05 eliminate some of your questions.
00:07 Would be on Dan, he knows.
00:11 You know, first I want to say is Dan worked extremely hard.
00:16 Was in the building all the time,
00:18 put a lot of hours into it.
00:21 And things of that nature.
00:23 It just it just wasn't working and.
00:26 So.
00:27 Um?
00:30 Yesterday morning we decided to make it make it change there.
00:36 Or not a change, but go ahead and.
00:39 And and.
00:42 Um, let Dan go and then.
00:47 Yesterday afternoon we had a arrest yesterday.
00:50 After that, briefly after that I had a meeting with the offensive
00:54 line called a lot of recruits were going to have Kenny Guyton
00:59 moved to quarterbacks and he'll call the plays and Derek Keefe
01:04 will be the wide receiver coach.
01:08 He obviously was in that system.
01:12 At Alabama and.
01:14 So that would be that I'm met with.
01:21 I've been in meetings yesterday and today with the offensive staff.
01:29 We're trying to.
01:30 Uh, eliminate some of the volume that we have offensively.
01:36 Obviously it was important that we stayed in house so we wouldn't
01:40 have a lot of terminology and then we gotta give our kids a chance to win.
01:45 And.
01:47 It just seems that nothing ever came easy for us this year and.
01:53 We've got to do some things differently and one of it is cut down
01:58 the volume that we have.
02:00 And and so I've been meeting with those guys all morning on
02:06 that and and we'll go from there.
02:09 Why do you think it didn't work?
02:13 I mean, you talked about volume here just now, but what do you?
02:15 What else played into it?
02:17 Just not benefit.
02:18 I think a lot of coaching has to do with enthusiasm spirit.
02:24 Want to run through a wall for different people and I just we
02:27 just really never had that on on the offensive side of the ball.
02:31 If you look at it defensively.
02:35 You know there's a lot of that there.
02:38 I think you can get guys to play better than maybe even what
02:41 their talents are if they believe in you and and to be honest
02:46 with you until this season that has been a I think a positive
02:52 about me that you know guys seem to want to play and and
02:58 those things of that nature and and they've got it going on
03:02 defense so I know it's possible to do.
03:05 We have a lot of similar players that we've had in the past.
03:09 It just never click and it really never did and.
03:16 So. This is not a move to.
03:19 For any other reason than it just wasn't working and it's not
03:27 a move to to can the season.
03:29 We've got a really good defense.
03:31 If our offense can go out and function and function well, we
03:36 still have games that we can win and we need to and.
03:42 So I don't I can't really put a finger on it except.
03:46 There was it was just rough.
03:51 Our kids weren't as motivated and that can go on me as well.
03:59 Our kids weren't as motivated to play as as what I have seen in
04:03 the past and you could tell the way we took the field on Saturday that it was like.
04:09 You know and I can remember being on the headset going on.
04:14 What are we doing?
04:15 I mean it's almost like a bump bump bump bump bump bump as we're going out there.
04:21 And we were in the game the entire game.
04:25 It just didn't feel like it and.
04:28 So and I'll give miss missip stay at a great game plan and all that but
04:32 we didn't adjust and so I don't I that would be the only thing we've lost our.
04:39 Spirit.
04:41 And there's a lot to be said about that.
04:45 With coach Guyton calling plays, he's obviously, you know, worked under Kendall
04:50 before and work under Dan, are we going to see?
04:53 Kind of a mesh of those two thoughts or maybe going back to some of the things
04:56 that's worked for you guys in the past?
04:57 Yeah, I don't think we're going to see anything that.
05:00 We haven't done this year more.
05:06 I think we may do more of some things that we've done.
05:11 A few times.
05:14 And then you know you could see a faster pace and some things of that nature.
05:23 But our volume is what we're cutting down so we can do something really well and.
05:29 And if you look in the past, we've done, we've been able to run the football
05:35 from running these type plays and things that we have them in our office.
05:40 We just got to practice, you know, when you're doing a large volume,
05:46 you're not practicing the fundamentals as much as you should.
05:50 You're practicing looks and.
05:53 We everybody has to get better fundamentally, bad level, all that kind of
05:58 difference, protecting the quarterback at running back all these type things.
06:02 But I don't know that we can set back in the pocket for 29 plays like we did
06:08 Saturday and expect the plays are good.
06:12 If you can't protect it, they're not.
06:14 And so we've got to do some things there that can affect the way we win or lose.
06:21 Heard any feedback from players?
06:23 Have you gotten any?
06:23 And do you think maybe this will ease KJ's mind?
06:27 Maybe there was too much on KJ's plate in his mind for how he operated?
06:32 Well, the system was really good.
06:33 I mean, it was a really good system and I could say Dan's a really good football coach.
06:38 We just, we just didn't click in it.
06:42 And you know, when he came from Maryland, they had great success over there in their
06:48 offenses, but I do think that we've got to allow KJ to take some of the things off
06:59 his plate that we were obviously trying to teach him for now and for his future.
07:04 But we need to take those things off his plate because he's not playing fast and
07:10 not playing and he's not as accurate throwing the football as what he has been
07:16 in the past and some of those things have to be mentally, they have to be mental.
07:20 And then we've got to take some things off his plate as well.
07:23 What was Kenny's reaction?
07:25 What are his strengths?
07:26 Maybe do you think as a communicator and play call, will he work from the box or do
07:30 you know that yet?
07:30 Well, I don't know.
07:32 We talked about it briefly about that, the last part of it.
07:36 I think he's more comfortable on the sideline.
07:40 I said, well, we just better put up a hell of a game plan, you know, and I'll be in
07:45 each one of those meetings as well.
07:47 And I'll just the defense, they're doing good without me.
07:52 And so I always try to find different things to help the defense, but I try to
08:00 them can do that and I'll just strictly stay on the offensive.
08:03 We can't help that out a little bit more, but just briefly the conversation, he felt
08:08 more comfortable on the sideline.
08:15 Well, I know he's been really good at handling his room and that's a guy that's
08:20 respected.
08:21 He has a lot of motivation.
08:25 He was excited when I talked to him about it.
08:28 The guys in the room were excited for Kenny and.
08:35 You know, I thought about it a lot, you know, Saturday night, what you know, which
08:40 way I was going to go, how I was going to go and things of that nature.
08:44 And bringing somebody in from outside right now didn't make a lot of sense to me,
08:49 simply because I mean, to me, that's more of giving up on the season.
08:55 And this is not what we're doing.
08:57 We're just trying to make a change.
08:59 Hopefully, you get kids to play a little faster and tougher and things of that
09:03 nature.
09:04 You talked about how KJ was dropping back a lot, and I was curious, you know, with
09:09 the scheme that, you know, has had, do you think that maybe that contributed to some
09:13 of the offensive line issues this year?
09:15 Well, I mean, each, you know, it's just like I told her offensive staff, you know,
09:22 with Dan, with Dan not here anymore.
09:26 That doesn't mean all of a sudden, oh, well, all our answers are solved.
09:30 I mean, hell, we've got offensive line issues, back issues, running route issues,
09:37 tight end issues.
09:38 I mean, so, you know, Dan took the blunt of it on that, but we all haven't been
09:45 coaching as well as we have in the past.
09:47 We haven't.
09:48 And maybe it was, you know, that you have to coach a little bit more than in a fast
09:53 pace type.
09:54 I don't know what the reason was.
09:56 I wish I did.
09:57 We'd had it fixed by now.
09:58 But I do think, what was your question about dropping back?
10:03 I was just asking if you talked about dropping back, how you guys don't want to
10:07 be doing that.
10:08 As much?
10:09 Well, I mean, third and ten, you've got to do something, you know what I mean?
10:14 But we wanted to move the pocket.
10:22 We haven't.
10:22 I mean, we haven't.
10:24 Now, we did the other day down the goal line.
10:26 We just missed it, you know, to go up seven to nothing.
10:29 But we've got to do more than say we're better than you and you can run every
10:36 blitz you want to and our back will pick you up and all this kind of stuff.
10:39 We can't do that.
10:41 It looks good on paper.
10:42 We just can't physically do that.
10:44 So I think we threw 29 pocket passes on Saturday and that number's got to be
10:50 closer to eight to ten.
10:52 And we can still throw the football.
10:54 We did under Browse's offense, but it wasn't the drop back.
10:59 Here we are.
10:59 This is the point.
11:00 We just can't do it.
11:02 We can't physically hold up right now.
11:05 And honestly, we're getting so much blitz and twists and stuff.
11:09 I don't know if a lot of people can, especially our young, young tackles.
11:13 We know we've known they're young as well.
11:16 So we've got to protect them.
11:17 Some of them.
11:18 Listen, you ain't sit here and say all we want about, we don't have this player,
11:23 this player, this player, they are who we have and we're playing good enough
11:27 defense to win football games and we're not doing it.
11:29 So we got to figure out how to score one more point than they did.
11:33 And however ugly it is, it's ugly, but winning ain't ugly.
11:37 This stuff we've been through is terrible.
11:38 Sam looking ahead, just is this kind of serve these last four games is kind of
11:44 like an audition for coach Gatton to get the job beyond this year.
11:48 Kind of, do you open it up to the national search or how does that look?
11:52 Well, obviously since, since yesterday, I've gotten a ton of phone calls and all
11:58 that kind of stuff.
11:59 I don't have no time for that right now.
12:01 We're trying to win some games.
12:03 Um, but obviously if we have success and I'm not a put Kenny's name right in, in
12:09 that, and you want to, if you can, you want to stay in house, especially because
12:15 the portal and the relationship kids have and all that, this doesn't mean if Kenny
12:19 goes to call him plays and it doesn't work out as well that he's not gonna be
12:23 our wide receiver coach.
12:25 I'm not putting that on him, but obviously if he does well, then we'll have to have
12:30 that conversation.
12:31 And that's hell I'd love to have that conversation.
12:33 You haven't just gone through this as past off season, looking for
12:37 new offensive coordinator.
12:38 I mean, were there guys you talked to this past cycle that you could reach out
12:41 to again, or was it just past cycle?
12:44 Just, you know, you knew you had the relationship with Dan and went with him
12:46 and didn't really talk to anybody else.
12:48 I had talked to some because KB had had a couple of different jobs, you know, so I
12:53 had talked to some people.
12:55 Um, the thing about each and every year is, uh, different people come
13:01 available after each year.
13:04 You know, some guys might not have been available last year that I knew that
13:08 might be available this year, depending on whether they're on the team that's
13:13 fired or whether they're just decided, you know, no, last year might be yes now.
13:18 So, uh, no greatest thing about me moving all over the world is I know a whole
13:23 bunch of people and, uh, and, uh, so we'll see.
13:29 And you mentioned you just got the guys that you have and you do have some, some
13:34 talent on offense, obviously, but what realistically do you think can improve
13:38 before you play at Ford and then in the remaining games?
13:41 Well, I think a lot of things can improve, you know, I think we can run the ball
13:45 better.
13:46 And I think, you know, if you look at Saturday, we, I think we had a couple,
13:50 a couple of first downs right in a row and, and we, you know, we decided not to
13:54 run it, you know, and that's, that's nothing I'm not being negative.
13:57 Look, the man got let go.
13:59 He, he's a wonderful person and all that, but you know, what's working, it's got
14:05 to continue to be called and things of that nature.
14:07 And sometimes nothing's working.
14:09 So it's hard to call something too, but, uh, I think we can
14:13 improve in our running game.
14:15 Uh, I think we can move the pocket and do some things and, and, uh, uh, where
14:20 we're not setting back there all the time.
14:23 I think obviously I've talked about, you know, 29 drawback passes in a game is,
14:29 is hard to protect for us right now.
14:32 So we, we can't do that.
14:33 There could be some gap protections where there could be some role
14:36 protections, it could, could be some naked things that KJ can get out on edge
14:41 and have run and pass opportunities.
14:44 Um, there's just, um, uh, to me, he's, he's not done a wonderful job, uh,
14:55 either of protection or of setting in the pocket and throwing the football.
15:00 And if that's the case, we can't keep beating a dead horse and we
15:05 have to do something different.
15:07 And again, this is nothing negative about Dan at all.
15:13 It's just something that we got to make a change.
15:15 So now
15:16 you mentioned earlier, um, wanting to roll the pocket.
15:19 You mentioned that when you talked to us previously, but didn't do it, I guess.
15:23 What
15:24 we didn't do it.
15:24 We did it.
15:25 We did it in practice.
15:26 We just didn't do it.
15:27 They're just not, we didn't do it.
15:32 I mean,
15:32 we'll practice it.
15:39 We didn't do it.
15:39 So I don't know what to say about that.
15:43 Uh, the best thing to tell Kenny's never called plays before.
15:47 Am I right about that?
15:48 You're right.
15:49 And so, um, and I'm not saying he can't call place, but how, what, what gives
15:53 you confidence that he'll, you know, he can step into the situation and start
15:56 calling plays, you know, obviously he's going to need some help probably in the
16:02 run game, which his expertise would be the past game as a wide out.
16:08 Now he's very intelligent guy.
16:10 Obviously I felt like he knew both, um, Cody's in there and Morgan's in there.
16:16 I'm, I'm in there for the run game and some things of that nature.
16:20 But, um, I think, uh, obviously I thought he was the most intelligent
16:27 guy in the whole, uh, offensive package.
16:32 And so that's why I went with him, but I, I, he's very intelligent.
16:37 And, uh, you can tell that even in the last two meet yesterday and today's
16:41 meeting that I feel like he'll do a really good job, 32, maybe 33.
16:47 Do you think that, that, that you might give a, because you told me, well,
16:52 we'll maybe inject some enthusiasm into the guys.
16:56 Well, I don't think it, I know what you're getting at, but I don't think
17:00 age has nothing to do with it.
17:02 To be perfectly honest with you.
17:04 I think it guys either go get an encouraging type guy at whatever age, or
17:09 he's, I've seen some young guys that weren't there, your dad, you know,
17:13 that beats out there too.
17:14 But I get what you're saying.
17:16 And he has that personality and I think it will resonate
17:21 through throughout the offense.
17:23 I could on the sideline.
17:25 At least I saw a rocket on the sideline.
17:28 And is that a good sign?
17:29 Maybe back in the folder, kind of what's going on.
17:31 He never left the fold.
17:33 Rockets getting rehab in Dallas and he'll be back whenever he gets healthy.
17:38 And, but, I don't know when that is.
17:46 What will you do within the next 11 days to kind of best simulate a situation
17:52 and kind of help Kenny get used to calling plays for the first time?
17:55 Well, we're going to have, we're going to have walkthroughs, which is going to
18:00 give him opportunities to set a script, set a, they're in there right now.
18:05 Given, they don't have a report for me here when we get back about everything
18:13 that we talked about this morning, and then they're going to head on to
18:16 their Florida game plan with myself in there and he'll have opportunities to
18:24 call plays Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of this week.
18:28 Some of the things that you mentioned wanting to do, does that kind of take
18:32 stress off your plate during the game to be able to make more game management
18:38 type situations that you're not as worried about?
18:40 You know, I got to be better at whatever my responsibilities are.
18:50 And there's a bunch of them, you know, no matter what the situation is.
18:55 Um, I'd lie to you if I told you that some of the things that were going on
19:01 didn't affect me, you know, because, but, um, that's not an excuse.
19:06 That's my job to, um, you know, not have, um, a field goal team out there
19:14 and, um, in time to kick the, kick the, uh, the field goal, you know, that's,
19:23 that's, uh, doesn't matter what's going on.
19:25 That's, that's unacceptable.
19:27 You can't afford to look ahead with four games left, but when you look back a
19:32 little bit, uh, what the defense was like, defense is kind of mirroring what
19:36 struggles with offense now.
19:38 And I mean, they played, and you said, damn good last week.
19:43 Um, how confident are you that you could take this offense and get it back to
19:49 being formidable for the future next year and similar what you did with the defense
19:54 and when you have to change the coaches, you had non-transfer additions that are
19:58 making a big impact on defense.
20:00 Yeah, I think, I think, uh, obviously, um, if you're a position coach, it's
20:07 your job, it's, it's ultimately mine for all that to happen.
20:11 But if you're a position coach, it's your job to have good players.
20:16 Now I'm part of that, but I can remember when Kirby went to Georgia, Kirby said,
20:22 you're going to have to change your room.
20:24 And I took it personally and hell, everybody played, you know what I mean?
20:30 Um, hell when I was here before they get, there's going out left and right.
20:36 Um, and I'm just talking about the whole line cause that was my position.
20:41 Um, but if you want to become a better coach, you've got to change.
20:46 You got, you got to put competition in your room.
20:49 That's, that's number one.
20:52 Number two, I think there's so many guys out there that would like to be a part
20:57 of Arkansas that we can find, whether it's in-house where we're at now, or
21:02 whether we go and look outside, we can find somebody that's damn good.
21:06 That wants to be at Arkansas.
21:08 And I think in the quarterback room, cause that's where it starts.
21:12 We've got some really good players in the quarterback room.
21:15 I love Chris well, and I think he's going to, you know, he's really good.
21:19 Malik, I say, we got some guys that can win and the sec, and
21:23 that's where you kind of start.
21:24 And then the rest of it, you go and you go, okay, where are you
21:28 going to go in the portal?
21:29 Where are you going to go?
21:30 Juco?
21:30 Where, where are we going?
21:32 High school, whatever that may be to change our team next year, because
21:37 everybody that's how everybody's doing it, you know, and, uh, I go back to
21:42 Ole Miss and you look at Ole Miss and they've got a really good defense, which
21:45 they hadn't had the previous three years.
21:48 Now I'm not saying that they were bad.
21:50 I'm not, I don't mean that hell they won 10 games, so they were good, but
21:54 they are physical and really good.
21:56 And they, you know, they went in a portal and they changed just as we did and
21:59 changed us so, uh, to get that, you got to coach better, you got to coach.
22:04 We got to get some more players and things, but I'm real confident that we
22:08 can get it back to, um, what is a respectable plus for the, for the state
22:15 of Arkansas, and to be honest with you, that's really all I'm worried about.
22:18 I'm not worried about my job.
22:20 I'm not worried about, I'm worried about the damn state of Arkansas and, uh, and
22:25 having them proud of our football team and hell I'm not right now and I know
22:29 they ain't and I get it, but I'm the only one that can change it.
22:34 So we're going to work like hell to get that done.
22:36 Is that something right now with the coaching staff, you'd be like, it's not
22:42 just the players thing, the coaches are competing for their spots too right now.
22:46 You feel like that's the case coach?
22:49 You mean to get fired or not?
22:51 Or what I mean, just in terms of showing you, like you said a moment ago, people
22:55 want to be here and to go where other people are, you feel like internally too,
22:58 people need to show you they want to be here.
23:00 Yeah.
23:00 I mean, I think that's the whole thing.
23:02 I mean, I don't, I don't think that.
23:04 I don't think that we were complacent.
23:07 I just think the life was out of the building and, and, uh, for whatever
23:13 reason, and we're not out of the building because it was out of on that side of the
23:18 ball, we got to get it back.
23:20 And there, how, how's he coming along health wise and how's Andrew?
23:25 You said his back.
23:26 Hard up.
23:27 Oh, Deb.
23:29 Yeah.
23:30 He he's been staying here free or, uh, last week and then that's, so therefore,
23:37 and of course, Chambly had a back issue, which I think he's going to be just fine.
23:41 Dave really didn't even talk about it today.
23:43 So I think he'll be fine.
23:44 Um, you know, obviously we had, we had, uh, problems with that pick
23:49 twist with the linebacker.
23:51 Uh, that was the one that he had a problem with as well, but I thought that he played
23:55 a lot better, um, this week than whatever.
23:59 I can't remember the last game that he was in.
24:00 I thought he played better.
24:01 I thought that there was hope for him, uh, to keep taking a step forward there.
24:06 You asked about somebody else.
24:07 Was that it?
24:07 Okay.
24:10 You told us on Saturday, kind of the plan for the open date.
24:13 Does it change at all with the change?
24:15 I don't think so.
24:16 Cause I think if you really look at it, what is the change?
24:21 Well, you're not changing offenses.
24:23 Now you're, you might, cause Lord knows we had a lot of offense.
24:27 You got to, you know, you got to shrink it.
24:29 In my opinion, we have to shrink it down and do a little good and
24:33 let the playmakers make plays.
24:36 Uh, so as long as we're having our meetings and we are having our walks,
24:42 I can't punish the defensive side of the ball by saying, Hey, let's go
24:47 rock and soccer, soccer and robots this week, because we're playing.
24:51 We need a healthy team.
24:52 Number one, we need a healthy team to go out there.
24:55 And what do we need?
24:56 We need a coordinator who is able to feel good about calling plays.
25:01 And we need a offensive team that feels good about the plays being called.
25:08 And I think we can still do that in a regular format.
25:10 I was going to tweak it a little bit, but I don't, I don't think so.
25:16 I think we're in pretty good shape.
25:17 Um, uh, because nothing's really new.
25:21 It's just not as much volume.
25:24 You mentioned being on the phone with recruits yesterday.
25:26 Just how receptive were they?
25:28 How did they respond?
25:29 Yeah, I thought it went well.
25:30 You know, we, that was part of our meeting with the offense yesterday
25:34 about whom do we need to call?
25:36 Who do I need to call?
25:38 Who do we combo, combo need to call and make sure that we get it out before
25:43 y'all did, you know, or before we, you know, we sent it out, uh, just to make
25:48 sure that everything's okay.
25:51 And, and, uh, and Dan was very well, uh, respected and liked by the kids and,
25:57 and those things, and, and we want to make sure that it certainly was nothing
26:02 personal and things of that nature.
26:03 So we wanted to do it as right as we felt, felt was, and, and I really didn't
26:09 have a negative response from any, anybody, nor did the coaches.
26:14 It's also about maximizing what your talent is because long question here.
26:18 We saw in spring, a lot of tunnels for Isaiah that moved a lot
26:24 outbreaking routes for Tesla.
26:26 And he's made athletic catches on the sideline and we just
26:29 haven't seen a lot of that.
26:30 That's what it is.
26:31 That's exactly what it is.
26:32 But, but when you have a tremendous amount of volume, you, you really can't
26:38 single in on people as much, you know what I mean?
26:42 Um, and so, uh, great analogy.
26:47 I think that's exactly what it is.
26:49 I would just say coach sort of building off of that.
26:55 You've mentioned several times being involved in the meetings with Jenny.
26:58 How much are you looking to have a hand in the game plan or are you just sort of
27:02 there supervising what he's doing?
27:04 All of it.
27:05 I mean, it's my butt on the line, you know, it's all of us, you know, don't
27:13 worry so much about losing my job.
27:15 I worry so much about losing the building to John, you know, we got
27:19 buyouts and all that kind of stuff.
27:21 I don't want to buy out.
27:23 I want to win.
27:24 And so I'm not saying I'm the no all answer guy, but I damn sure need to get
27:32 involved more, uh, and that's what I'm gonna do.
27:35 So quickly, uh, is Kenny taking over Dan's role as quarterback's coach as well?
27:45 Uh-huh.
27:45 Yeah.
27:46 You know, Kenny played at Ohio state, uh, quarterback, and, uh, I just thought
27:50 that was the best transition we could make without saying we're giving up on
27:57 the season, you know what I mean?
27:58 Cause otherwise you can bring some analysts from over here, over here,
28:02 over here, but you're giving up.
28:03 And I just don't, I think our team, we got a pretty good football team and I
28:09 know we've lost six in a row, but it's not been 40 to 12 and all this kind of
28:13 stuff, we just got to figure out how to play good team football.
28:17 And, uh, so that, yeah, that's what, that's what we decided to do.
28:20 And, and, uh, with him, you mentioned challenging the offensive side of the
28:26 ball to bring more energy, to be more competitive, what do you need to see
28:29 from Kenny, from the entire offensive staff to bring it to where the defense is
28:34 right now?
28:34 You know, it's enthusiasm, accountability.
28:37 I mean, there's a difference.
28:39 In other words, how do you hold somebody accountable for what they do?
28:44 Well, our strength cat staff, they hold them accountable and it's a positive
28:50 deal, but they're accountable.
28:51 Our defensive staff, there is enthusiasm.
28:55 You're going to find that them kids are accountable.
28:58 You know what I mean?
28:59 There's a difference.
29:00 My style is more of a positive, uh, approach with accountability.
29:06 And, um, we cannot beat these kids down.
29:12 We cannot.
29:14 We'll never get them back.
29:15 And so, but you, you can't turn the other way either.
29:20 So it's accountability and everything they do class, all these things
29:25 can't lose our core values.
29:26 It worked before it can work again.
29:29 It has to work again, but it's, it's enthusiasm and accountability
29:35 and you can do both together.
29:37 And that's what I want out of the offensive staff as well.
29:41 And Sam, was this move with Dan, some you'd been thinking about, like, I might
29:45 have to do this and things don't get better than the open date obviously
29:49 gives you extra time or was it just yesterday was just the last straw.
29:53 I don't think anybody, Bob, to be honest with you, I don't think anybody that.
29:57 I don't think anybody makes decisions like that.
30:00 Just, you know, after we scored three points, you know what I mean?
30:03 I think, uh, you're thinking about it and a lot of things go into that, you know,
30:09 a lot of things, conversations, communication, a lot of things go on that
30:13 other than this, we scored three points, you know, um, so, you know, you never
30:20 want to do that because, you know, you're saying really well, he's the problem.
30:24 That's not the case.
30:25 We've got a lot of things we need to fix, but I felt like this is
30:31 the best way for us to win games.
30:32 And so, um, yeah, it didn't, it didn't just come across my mind on Saturday.
30:38 Yeah.
30:39 You've been doing this a long time.
30:40 Dan's been doing a long time.
30:41 You know, you, you've been fired.
30:43 He's been fired.
30:43 You had great years.
30:44 Um, just how, how'd that all go down?
30:47 What, what was it like having that conversation?
30:49 I guess he's a professional man, a good man.
30:52 And, and obviously nobody wants to do that.
30:55 You don't want to do that.
30:56 But for the best of the team and the program, obviously I thought that was it,
31:01 but he handled it professionally.
31:03 He's a good person.
31:04 He's a good football coach.
31:05 It just didn't work out here.