Arkansas Razorbacks coach Sam Pittman's complete press conference recapping close loss to Alabama and upcoming game with Missississippi State on Saturday morning at Razorback Stadium.
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00:00 We would had to do that some anyway,
00:03 because they're playing both quarterbacks quite a little bit.
00:08 But it's just different now knowing that Will got hurt.
00:14 We don't know what, and hopefully he's fine.
00:16 But we don't know where that is.
00:19 Defensively, they're all over the place.
00:24 A lot of movement, a lot of blitzing,
00:28 a lot of different movements, you can kind of categorize them.
00:31 But a lot of zone coverage, a lot of fire zone,
00:35 principal blitz, play extremely hard.
00:39 But we're looking forward to, we drove by the grass here, man,
00:42 it's green as it can be, the best it's ever looked.
00:45 Haven't been here for 30 something days.
00:47 And it's good to get back home.
00:49 We're looking forward and hope that the crowd will come out and help us get a win.
00:55 [BLANK_AUDIO]
00:58 >> The situation's been unfortunate.
01:00 Is there a chance he can come back or is he done for the year?
01:03 >> I don't know, I really don't.
01:05 He's not on play Saturday, but I really don't know.
01:13 It just depends on how he feels and
01:18 the progression of his rehab.
01:23 >> People were calling saying you guys were too conservative on Saturday.
01:28 But I mean, when you look at it, with the struggles of pass protection,
01:31 was that just kind of the philosophy of no long developing plays and
01:35 just get the ball out as fast as possible?
01:37 And probably was, I mean, looking back, your best strategy.
01:40 >> I thought we called a great game.
01:43 I didn't feel like we were too conservative at all.
01:47 I don't know what that would mean if we hadn't have all of them on third down,
01:53 but it ended up being good for us, just like it was for
01:57 Mississippi State when they did it before they played Alabama.
02:02 We just call them plays trying to make the most yards we can with what we have,
02:09 where our matchups are.
02:12 So, no, I don't know, people always gonna complain about something.
02:18 >> I think there's only one other team in the country that had to play four
02:24 straight games, not at home.
02:26 Just now that you've gone through it,
02:29 we all knew it was a tough stretch before the season.
02:31 Just like, was it more difficult than you anticipated?
02:34 I mean, how did it kind of live up to your expectations?
02:37 And what are the specific challenges with that kind of stretch away from home?
02:40 >> Well, it depends.
02:41 I mean, you can play away from home.
02:42 It all depends, I think, a little bit about who you're playing.
02:44 And I think on the road we played some really good teams,
02:50 obviously nationally ranked teams and things of that nature.
02:57 But we caught some breaks because we didn't play every one of them at night.
03:02 I think we played two of them at night, maybe at night at LSU and
03:07 was Ole Miss at night as well.
03:10 The difficult part about playing on the road and
03:15 it's obviously the noise which we hope is our advantage on Saturday morning.
03:22 When you're trying to develop kids that haven't played much ball,
03:28 especially offensively where you're trying to build some confidence and
03:34 some guys haven't played.
03:37 And then you go into a venue like that where really all you're thinking about is,
03:42 can I hear the snap count?
03:43 And you're trying to grow from that and those things.
03:47 So probably if we had a veteran offensive line,
03:51 it might have been a better stretch for us.
03:56 Obviously, we didn't win any of the games.
03:59 So that would be the biggest disappointment.
04:02 However, I do think we're getting a little bit better.
04:06 And we have four of the next five at home.
04:11 And we still have some of our goals left that we've had at the beginning of the year.
04:18 And but that's a hard stretch.
04:22 It is a hard stretch and I wish we could have made a dent in the win column on that.
04:27 But I do think our team's better than when we last played here at home.
04:32 >> Nudy and Campbell practicing a little last week, but
04:36 they didn't play on Saturday, obviously, where their status is.
04:40 >> I think Cam's got a chance this week.
04:44 I don't know the percentile of that, but I think he has a chance.
04:48 Nudy, I have no idea.
04:49 I'll be honest with you.
04:51 >> I'm gonna follow up with the corner situation, cuz Keon Stewart went down.
04:55 So maybe can you evaluate what you have going at corner and how they're playing?
04:59 >> Well, I think we're gonna get Braxton back.
05:01 And so that's gonna help us tremendously.
05:05 I think Keon's gonna be fine.
05:07 I think, obviously, moving snacks out there, he had a nice game.
05:13 Who am I missing?
05:15 Jaheim, Jaheim will be back.
05:18 And so if Braxton comes back, I think we're gonna be fine at corner.
05:24 No matter how Nudy feels or not, we'd obviously like to have him back.
05:30 But we'll just have to wait and see there.
05:32 >> You talked about two different styles of quarterback.
05:36 So any principles left of the air raid?
05:39 What do they want to do with each of those two guys, you'd say?
05:43 >> Well, they always have a great running back.
05:46 They have three they play, but Marks, he's a really good player.
05:52 Now he's been beat up a little bit too, but
05:54 that by week probably came at a good time for Mississippi State.
05:59 But they wanna run a stretch.
06:01 They wanna run a little counter.
06:02 They wanna run inside zone.
06:04 They are very similar to us,
06:10 to be honest with you, offensively, with Will back there.
06:17 If you would think back then of when we had Malik Hornsby and
06:26 that type of offense, roll out, read, running quarterback,
06:32 fields, leads, that would be where they're at now.
06:37 But no, they're not air raid by any stretch.
06:42 >> When did you find out last week that he wasn't available?
06:47 Did he have a setback in practice?
06:49 >> I think I found out on Tuesday.
06:55 Maybe Wednesday.
06:56 When was y'all's last day?
06:58 Tuesday, Tuesday, I found out Tuesday that he
07:04 wasn't confident in his knee yet, and so that's when I found out.
07:10 >> And he hadn't played a whole bunch last week, but
07:14 he's still your leading rusher.
07:15 Just kind of what's been keeping him off the field the last few games?
07:18 >> Well, I mean, obviously we have
07:25 belief in him and R-Dub and Damo.
07:30 But we felt like Damo could get
07:36 the tough inside yards a little bit more, and so that's where we were going there.
07:46 Excuse me, did I say R-Dub or Damo?
07:49 I meant R-Dub.
07:51 And he had 14 carries for 28 yards, and then kind of passed out of the backfield.
07:58 And then AJ complimented that and averaged about seven yards a carry or
08:02 something like that.
08:03 Some of him were what you're talking about on third down,
08:06 some of those were third down runs.
08:08 But we believe in both of them, and
08:12 we'll probably split the difference this week with them.
08:18 >> I don't see your complimentary, Zach, on that media days.
08:22 And I was wondering, how long have you gotten to know him?
08:24 He obviously took over under really challenging circumstances.
08:27 Kind of what are your thoughts on Zach and the job he's done and the kind of guy he is?
08:31 >> I think he's done a really good job.
08:33 He's been hit with injuries now.
08:36 I mean, he has, and he's tried to take it to a new offense.
08:42 And obviously, he's still working with the defense, but he was calling it before.
08:48 It's just, I'm sure it's a little bit different.
08:50 There's a lot of similarities in what they're doing now and
08:53 what they did last year defensively.
08:55 But I have a lot of respect for him and
08:59 had a lot of respect for him when he was a D coordinator.
09:03 I do think if they'll stay with him and he'll bring a tough,
09:08 that's what they're gonna bring in here, a tough physical team.
09:13 But I think a lot of his, I don't think they've had problems, but
09:17 a lot of their situations come from injuries, and
09:21 some of their best players have been out.
09:24 >> And the circumstances under which he became head coach, I was very-
09:29 >> Yeah, I'm sure it was bittersweet for
09:32 him.
09:32 I don't wanna speak for him, but
09:36 they had to hire somebody, unfortunately.
09:41 And I thought at the time that was a great hire for
09:47 Mississippi State, and I still do, to keep it within.
09:55 There's a lot of reasons.
09:56 One, I thought he deserved it.
09:57 Two, the portal is rampant during that time.
10:02 You could lose half your team.
10:04 And I think they felt like they had a good team coming back like they do.
10:11 And so I'm sure it was bittersweet for him.
10:15 I'm sure he's learning like I did and like I am.
10:18 But I do think that he's kept the team together well, and
10:23 I'm sure it was good for him to get a win last week at Western Michigan.
10:29 >> Mike Wright, if he is the guy, and he has starting experience at Vandy,
10:33 he's played some this year, just what's your take specifically on-
10:37 >> It's always better than I wanted to.
10:39 He can throw the football, he's fast.
10:41 Obviously, they'll run him with run design plays for him,
10:47 not just read plays where he can have the opportunity to keep it.
10:52 Run a lot of fly sweeps with him with the opportunity to pitch or keep.
10:55 But right now, they're reading the defensive end and
11:01 allowing him to run or hand it off and running naked and
11:07 letting him throw a little bit out of that.
11:09 He did throw more against Western Michigan than he had before, but
11:13 I think he got more opportunity as well, which proved he could throw the football
11:17 as well and we saw Vandy could too.
11:19 >> I think the one guy we didn't hear about injury wise was Poof.
11:25 Do you have any update on him yet?
11:26 >> Yeah, hopefully he's gonna practice today as well, him and Braxton.
11:32 Now we'll see, but hopefully they'll be able to.
11:36 >> The defensive line last two weeks has, I think, taken a step forward, at least
11:42 from my eyes, I mean, has anything specifically changed rotation wise or
11:46 anything to get those guys going where they've kind of elevated their game lately?
11:50 >> I don't know, I just think they're playing better.
11:53 Obviously, Landon Jackson had 11 tackles, three and a half sacks.
11:58 I mean, my gosh, what a great game, and he's had them.
12:02 I mean, he may not have those type of stats, but he's certainly played well.
12:07 I think our guys are just getting better, like we talked about Nico Davie.
12:14 I mean, Nico's playing well for us when he's in there and
12:20 we got Tank back and that helps us and
12:25 it gives us a bigger body in there.
12:29 And no, we were a little short linebackers the other day, but
12:33 our D line are covering up for some of that when we get tired at the linebacker
12:38 spot as well, but I think Deke's done a really good job with them.
12:41 They're just really confident right now playing well.
12:44 >> You touched on a little bit there, but when you look at some of the injuries
12:49 you've had, you talked about it after the game on Saturday, the depth you have on
12:52 defense, some of the injuries you had up front, you had injuries at linebacker,
12:56 injury in the secondary.
12:58 And I take you back to before the portal opened and you said,
13:01 the bucks and dulse buckle up, there's tons of players leaving,
13:04 especially on the defensive side.
13:06 And then you made three changes in staff on defense.
13:09 Like even then, there's never been that much change over, ever.
13:14 But even then, when you were making all these changes,
13:16 you ever envisioned that, I mean, defense has played-
13:20 >> Pretty damn good.
13:21 >> 25 out of 28 quarters, I'd say they've won.
13:24 >> Yeah.
13:24 >> Ever envisioned that you would make all these changes?
13:28 >> Well, probably, honestly, probably not.
13:32 I mean, but what happened is we went into the portal and
13:37 our strength coach is really good.
13:41 And so we got bigger, we got stronger with the ones we had.
13:45 And then we went into the portal and
13:47 we pretty much hit at every level in the portal.
13:51 And then we've got guys that understand how to talk to kids and
13:59 doing a good job of motivating our guys.
14:03 But we just have more depth than I think part of it is,
14:09 is that they're good recruiters.
14:12 So they went out and got some guys.
14:13 And then the other thing is I think the kids really believe in them.
14:17 And right now they're playing extremely hard for
14:21 the state and for the coaches and for themselves.
14:25 But you can't really turn the tape on and go, man, they're not playing hard.
14:31 They're playing extremely hard.
14:32 We did have a couple busted coverages that cost us, which we have to get fixed.
14:38 One of them was just a mental error on a line,
14:43 we thought the tight end was covered up.
14:49 He was, and they motioned the back out to get eligible.
14:53 Then they moved their outside receiver off,
14:55 which immediately puts a tight end back eligible.
14:59 And we just lost it.
15:01 And they ran a little corner out with him and he was wide open, but
15:05 we had deemed him ineligible, which he was, but then the receiver.
15:10 And really we were looking at the guy going in motion as time he gets over there and
15:13 he gets set, the guy walked off the ball.
15:16 And we just, we didn't communicate it well enough.
15:19 >> [INAUDIBLE] I think last week we actually got Jeff Coe,
15:23 who's big game with Ole Miss.
15:25 And you mentioned how sometimes it depends on what the offense does to stop those
15:29 guys.
15:29 When you've got him on one side and
15:31 Larry on the other, is it almost kind of like,
15:33 you feel like one of those guys is gonna have a big game each week?
15:35 >> I think it's a little bit like, and it's hard, you don't wanna,
15:39 I'm going to here, Alabama has two really good defensive end.
15:44 And so you gotta figure out which one of them you're gonna try to,
15:48 how your matchup is against them and all that.
15:51 And I'm sure that's what opponents are doing against us.
15:55 And right now, which one are you gonna pick on?
15:58 I don't know.
15:59 And one of them had your right against Ole Miss and then this game for Lander.
16:05 So, it's hard to chip both sides.
16:09 I mean, you can, but you might as well just stay in and
16:12 max out a lot of times at that.
16:15 But yeah, we're very, very fortunate to have both of them and
16:21 they're both good against the run, they're both good against the pass.
16:25 So, that's kind of a rarity because you get more specialization,
16:30 and you're a pass rusher, you're a run, but those two guys can do both.
16:35 >> I asked you about the fourth of one decision late in the half, but
16:38 not necessarily to not go for it.
16:40 But before all that time, would you like to get the guys lined up and
16:44 try at least a hard count?
16:45 Or was there like the issue of getting a call in or
16:48 signal in or just kind of what happened on that play?
16:50 >> I was just going to punt, I was going in the game,
16:54 it was on our 50, 50 towards us minus field position, I was going to punt.
17:01 And so then I had a, it was like this, and I thought, well, if we don't make it,
17:07 they could blow the game open before half.
17:13 So the bottom line was we've given the run punt option to Max,
17:18 and it was my kind of way of going for it on four down and not.
17:21 But I had my mind, it went back and forth on some things, and
17:27 I knew as the clock was running that we were running the clock down for
17:30 them as well, but that was our way of going for it.
17:35 >> On your run game against their run defense,
17:39 I think they're allowing like one point yard before contact.
17:42 How do you think maybe that part of this game will stack up?
17:47 >> Well, we probably have to throw a little bit more, to be honest with you.
17:54 This is a feast or
17:58 famine type defense,
18:03 not famine, but they're very aggressive on first down.
18:10 And so we've got to figure out how to, just like last week,
18:14 we went in saying if we got positive yards on first down, we were all going to,
18:21 we hung the moon, we were all, it didn't matter the yardage,
18:25 it was we get positive yards, now we're in manageable situations.
18:31 I think it's a little bit like against these guys too, but
18:35 we got to protect it, we got to move the pocket, and we got to throw and catch.
18:40 If you just, there are some runs that obviously we like against the front,
18:45 but with all the movement and
18:48 our experience up front, we have to do something different,
18:56 turn around and hand it off between the A gaps, because they're piling them all in.
19:01 >> [INAUDIBLE] There's some clips of him on the Internet,
19:06 the moves he made, his pass rush moves.
19:09 Just maybe, I don't know, when you see something like that go to fruition,
19:13 and he can SEC defensive line, what that means.
19:16 On a losing team, that just doesn't happen.
19:20 What he's doing now better than he had before is he's turning the corner.
19:24 In other words, a lot of time he's got on the edge of the tackle, but
19:29 he hasn't always been able, and it might be because of his injury in the past,
19:33 that always hadn't been able to plant and get under and turn the edge.
19:38 And right now he's turned the edge really, really well.
19:42 He's not a lot different.
19:44 Now, he's a little better with his clubs, his ribs, his swims.
19:49 But the key is when he turns, he's turning now, and
19:54 he's not wasting movement as in this.
19:57 Once he turns, he's getting straight to the quarterback.
20:01 >> [INAUDIBLE]
20:06 Outlawed the so called push, push, which is also some of that.
20:12 Is that something that if it's gonna be legal that you can use on fourth and
20:16 short yardage?
20:17 [BLANK_AUDIO]
20:18 >> If it's legal, you say?
20:20 Well, we did it once this year in a fast pace type deal.
20:25 But yeah, if we think we can get the first down, we will.
20:29 I can say before our game two weeks ago, I don't know who it was.
20:36 I think it was LSU tried to touch push about three times in a row against
20:41 Missouri from the one and then get in.
20:43 So I don't think it's just automatic, but
20:47 if there's a case where we've got some a gaps open somehow or
20:51 we certainly could use it, yes, sir.
20:54 >> So getting a chance to watch the film, the offense obviously in a bit of a rut in
20:58 the second and third quarter, but
20:59 really found a real rhythm towards the end of the game with the two touchdown drives.
21:04 What can you take from the offense finding that rhythm moving forward for
21:08 the rest of the season?
21:08 What did you see?
21:10 >> Well, I think you can find, you have to,
21:13 it can't all be loom and doom just because you lose.
21:19 You have to obviously find things that you can do better,
21:23 coach better, perform better.
21:26 But you always have to find something good.
21:29 And certainly we made some plays there.
21:33 I think some of our bubble screens helped us.
21:35 I think some of our uptempo stuff helped us.
21:38 I think our runners, I don't recall that I was
21:42 disappointed in a cut they made or read they made.
21:48 So yeah, there was certainly some things offensively.
21:52 I thought KJ obviously made some big, big plays and those series he ran.
21:59 I thought he ran as good or better than he has all year.
22:03 When he took off, obviously he made the Superman type play to keep that drive alive.
22:12 But you have to find some positives.
22:15 But because if you don't,
22:16 then you're just gonna get a bunch of guys that don't believe in themselves.
22:20 And I think we did get better.
22:23 I know the statistics weren't high.
22:25 I don't know that anybody has a lot of high statistics against a good damn defense.
22:32 But we scored more points than some other good offenses in SEC and
22:38 different things.
22:40 So I think we're evolving a little bit and
22:44 I look really forward to our last five games, see where we can continue to grow.
22:49 >> I wanted to ask you specifically about Gene Thomas.
22:52 I mean, he comes up in passing every single week, but
22:55 he just he flashes all over the field.
22:57 He's leading the SEC in tackles right now.
23:00 How impressed have you been with him coming in?
23:03 >> Well, I think too, and it's unfortunate,
23:06 you all can't just get a really good personal relationship with our guys.
23:10 If you did, you would love the guy.
23:12 I mean, he's mature, a guy you can count on, tough.
23:19 But for him, it sure goes back to what you're talking about, Trey.
23:24 For him to come in here and do what he's done for us, and in this league,
23:30 I think it'll help us go out and if we need to,
23:34 go out and get another linebacker out of the portal.
23:39 But for him to do that, it's just you look at it and go, well, he's doing this,
23:43 he's doing that.
23:43 It's not normal for that to happen, and we're really happy with him.
23:53 And I think part of it is he's such a good kid, and
23:56 he does a lot of film study, and it's important to him.
23:59 >> [INAUDIBLE] I think Antonio Reuters got 12 stops the last two weeks.
24:06 Has that been clicked with him, or is it just-
24:09 >> Well, he was hurt.
24:10 Yeah, he was hurt, didn't really have time to practice.
24:15 So obviously, we've always thought he's a pretty good football player, but
24:20 he just has been hurt, nagging stuff, not major, had a hand forever,
24:25 that we couldn't quite get healthy.
24:27 But just now he's not hurt, and
24:31 he's always had, hadn't had a problem with confidence, so
24:35 he's just playing healthy now.
24:38 >> [INAUDIBLE] a little bit here.
24:42 Post game Saturday, and then you touched on it a couple questions ago,
24:45 the uptempo offense, the no huddle, and how that kind of gave you a spark.
24:49 Is that something we can maybe expect to see a little bit more of now that you're
24:52 back home and you have that sound of- >> Boy, great point,
24:55 cuz it's gonna be easier without noise, and it's gonna be easier.
25:00 So it worked, so yes, I mean, obviously, if it doesn't work,
25:07 the answer is probably no, we're not gonna do it anymore, but it worked.
25:11 And I'm not saying that it just made them line up faster.
25:16 We had a little success on some plays, because right now without that,
25:22 what's happening, we're standing up there and they're looking over getting their
25:25 calls, and obviously, you guys know we're more of a pro style offense, so
25:29 we need them to line up so we can identify the mic and all this kind of stuff.
25:34 And so those plays were running, we're just front side point, let's go.
25:38 And so we're at least making them line up and
25:42 we're not standing there for ten seconds,
25:45 which I believe affects the way you come off the football, so absolutely.
25:50 >> In regards to being home, have you felt any mood shift in the locker room
25:55 knowing that you guys are back on friendly territory?
25:58 >> I haven't been in there yet, but I'm sure I will feel
26:03 the excitement from the guys at our team meeting today.
26:10 Man, because they love the fans, I mean, everybody does.
26:15 And so I think, and from what I understand, we're almost full,
26:20 which is really something to be said about the state of Arkansas,
26:26 especially where we're sitting right now.
26:28 But they come out and they're supporting the kids and that's what it's all about.
26:33 We gotta give them a reason as well, so we need to come out and play well,
26:38 but we really appreciate it, we're appreciative of that.
26:43 >> I have a similar question, one maybe psychological, but you go,
26:48 your four games on the road against some big logo teams, two and one, three and one,
26:52 four and one, five and one, road warrior mentality.
26:56 And you are coming home to friendly compounds and family home crowd.
27:00 How do you manage that shift in mindset to make sure it shifts, right?
27:06 Cuz you guys have come up short, but you've battled on the road and
27:10 making sure you keep that against a team that has gone 0 and 3 in conference at home.
27:14 Just seems like a major shift.
27:16 >> We gotta win, we have to win, we have to win Saturday.
27:22 And to reach, again, when the season starts, you have all these goals.
27:29 And there are still some that we had, and
27:33 they may have been down here to get up here.
27:37 But there are some still attainable goals that we have, and our kids know.
27:42 I'm gonna talk to them today about it, but this game Saturday is a big,
27:46 big game for us.
27:48 And they all are, Trey, but you keep backing yourself up into a corner.
27:55 At some point, we gotta go forward.
27:57 And we've proven that we've got a pretty good football team.
28:03 We haven't proven we can win.
28:05 And so we've gotta do that Saturday.
28:10 I think our kids understand that there are some things in that locker room that
28:15 the kids that have been here for four years have started that we don't wanna let
28:20 loose, we don't wanna let go of.
28:22 I think there's a lot of motivation things.
28:25 One of them being getting back home and playing.
28:28 We wanna show the state of Arkansas that we got a good football team,
28:32 a good enough one to win.
28:33 So there's a lot of motivation there.
28:35 [BLANK_AUDIO]
28:40 >> The way Jaden Johnson was playing last year to how he's playing this year.
28:43 >> Unbelievable.
28:44 >> And then Hudson Clark seems like the last couple years.
28:47 >> Unbelievable.
28:48 >> If it rains outside, he might come playing here.
28:50 [LAUGH]
28:52 >> It's an opportunity to talk about the play of those two guys and
28:55 how much they've stepped up.
28:57 [BLANK_AUDIO]
28:59 >> He gained about 12 pounds, Clark.
29:02 And man, I don't know what we'd do without him.
29:08 But he's a good tackler.
29:10 He's made a lot of open field tackles.
29:13 I mean, can't blame him this year.
29:16 He's done a great job, a great kid.
29:20 And then you talked about Jaden Johnson.
29:22 I think he's one of the best stories
29:27 that I'll remember when I'm through coaching.
29:33 And that he'll have to, you can ask him about it, but
29:38 we had a heart to heart after the season, and I'm not for sure.
29:42 [BLANK_AUDIO]
29:44 But he wanted to come back.
29:46 He wanted to come back and he had a heart to heart.
29:49 And at the end of that deal, I never lost confidence in him,
29:56 but I never would have thought he would turn and be what he is now.
30:01 And I think he's gonna continue to get better.
30:04 I do give credit to some of the motivation factors for
30:12 him and things of that nature too, but yeah, you wouldn't have thought it.
30:17 But I'm so glad it happened and I love both of the kids and they really, they did it.
30:23 I didn't do anything for them, they did it, but I'm really proud they did.
30:26 >> [INAUDIBLE]
30:30 >> Yeah.
30:30 >> Touchdown, to see in a game like that,
30:32 didn't give you more confidence to give them some more opportunities like that?
30:35 >> Well, guys, you always are trying to give different guys,
30:39 you can't just say, okay, because you got four, you know what I mean?
30:45 And he hadn't really done much the last two games until I
30:49 think he caught four balls the other day.
30:53 So you've got somebody who obviously is ahead of him, you know what I'm saying?
30:58 And he's not getting the catches and then so then it becomes even harder.
31:03 If you believe that your evaluation is correct, so
31:08 it just, it was good because Tesla guy had four catches and
31:13 was doing some great things and then we were able to get some
31:19 taming in there and he, man, he's a great throw, great route to catch.
31:24 And he kind of take another little, maybe a little bubble screen out there.
31:29 And so that's gonna help his confidence too.
31:33 So is the returns, it's really helped him in the return game too.
31:36 And I think he's gonna get another one here for too long.
31:39 He loves to do it, he's not afraid and he's athletic.
31:43 So that's what you need down there, got good hands.
31:46 >> [INAUDIBLE] downplay, we saw him rugby it really well in the past.
31:51 I would see him also boom at traditional ages.
31:53 >> Yeah. >> I was seeing the full kind of
31:55 Max Fletcher that you thought you were getting whenever you-
31:58 >> Man, that's the one thing that I
32:01 missed in that our kicker and
32:06 our punter Saturday were as big a weapons.
32:11 I mean, when he averaged 50 something yards a punt, 55 or something.
32:16 And you're right, I mean, he could rugby, he could conventional punt.
32:22 But the greatest thing, watching when he gets a good punt,
32:30 when he'll fire up the whole everybody, and he's so excited.
32:35 And yes, I'll be honest,
32:38 I didn't know if he's gonna be where he is right now, but he's a weapon now.
32:44 And if you can gain 10, 12, 8, 6 yards every time you do something,
32:48 before you know it, feel the flip for you, and as long as you're not turning it over.
32:54 And really, really proud of him and Cam Little's just a,
32:58 he's just a badass, that's what he is.