Bryan Kohberger and killer dad Alex Murdaugh Crucial clue in both verdict in Idaho murders trial

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00:00 "A crucial clue in both Brian Koberger and killer dad Alex Murdau cases may determine

00:04 verdict in Idaho murders trial.

00:06 See Elfone records that were a key clue in convicting disgraced lawyer Alex Murdau could

00:11 also determine the verdict in Brian Koberger's trial," a lawyer has said.

00:14 Alex Murdau was found guilty of the murders of his wife, Maggie, and youngest son, Paul,

00:19 earlier in 2023.

00:21 Koberger, meanwhile, is awaiting trial after being accused of the murders of four University

00:26 of Idaho students.

00:27 Madison Mogan, 21, Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Zanna Kernodle, 20, and Ethan Chapin, 20, were found

00:34 slain at an off-campus apartment in Moscow, Idaho, nearly one year ago.

00:39 But an expert said that cell phone activity, a key piece of evidence in the Murdau case,

00:44 could also be used to determine a verdict in Koberger's case.

00:47 Emily D. Baker, a lawyer and former Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney, spoke to The U.S.

00:52 Sun about the Koberger case and what fate could await him.

00:55 "There is so much that we don't know about this case yet," Baker shared.

00:58 Baker said that it'll be important to hear what witnesses said to the grand jury and

01:02 what the other roommates who were in the home knew.

01:04 "I feel that that's going to be some of the most important evidence for the case,"

01:08 she said.

01:09 But she also acknowledged some of the evidence that has been made public through court documents,

01:13 including Koberger's DNA being found at the crime scene and his cell phone being off during

01:17 the time the murders took place.

01:18 "We've seen that kind of evidence come up and be very impactful to the jury," Baker

01:22 said.

01:23 In the Murdau case where, you know, mysteriously, if someone who uses their phone all the time,

01:28 it's all just off during this discrete period of time, the lack of activity can also be

01:32 very telling.

01:33 Baker maintained that the existing public evidence is important, but there is still

01:37 so much not yet known due to the non-dissemination order and sealed court filings.

01:41 In both the Murdau and Koberger cases, cell phones have played a large role.

01:45 For Murdau, he vehemently denied being at the scene of the crime, until cell phone video

01:50 proved otherwise.

01:51 The video was filmed by Paul, 22, shortly before he was killed and showed Murdau at

01:55 the family's dog kennel.

01:56 Ultimately, the video was the convincing factor for some jurors.

02:00 One juror, Craig Moyer, told ABC News that the cell phone video helped convict the disgraced

02:04 attorney, saying he was certain it was Murdau's voice in the clip.

02:08 In the Koberger case, cell phone activity helped investigators place him near the scene

02:12 of the crime.

02:13 Koberger's phone was pinged near the crime scene 12 times in the months leading up to

02:17 the November 2022 murders.

02:19 The phone was also pinged in the area once in the hours after the killings, court documents

02:23 show.

02:24 Further review indicated that the 8458 phone utilized cellular resources on November 13,

02:30 2022 that are consistent with the 8458 phone leaving the area of the Koberger residence

02:35 at approximately 9am and traveling to Moscow, ID, court documents stated.

02:40 Specifically, the 8458 phone utilized cellular resources that would provide coverage to the

02:46 King Road residence between 9.12am and 9.21am.

02:50 Police identified his 8458 number after Koberger identified the phone as his own in an August

02:56 21, 2022, police stop in Moscow, Idaho.

02:59 While there is some clear evidence in Koberger's case, Baker pointed out that anything could

03:04 happen once the trial begins.

03:05 "Koberger's defense is fighting hard over the DNA found at the crime scene," she said.

03:09 "If for some reason, the DNA gets kept out because of how it was collected or how it

03:14 was tested and those things haven't been ruled on yet, that could be huge because,

03:18 while we saw it in the probable cause affidavit, if that doesn't come in a trial, you have

03:22 a much more tenuous circumstantial case," Baker explained.

03:26 As far as the cell phone activity is concerned, Baker said there are many factors at play.

03:30 "We're not talking about a densely populated city like New York.

03:33 We're talking about a much more sparsely populated area," Baker said.

03:37 "So those cell phone towers might ping from miles away."

03:40 These are the types of points that could come into play at a trial, according to Baker.

03:43 The lawyer also noted that Koberger's alibi will also be called into question.

03:47 "We know from court filings that his alibi seems to be that he was out driving alone

03:51 at night," Baker said.

03:52 "That is not an alibi that's going to help him at all."

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