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00:00 in future proceedings in the Fulton County case.
00:03 CNN's Nick Valencia has details.
00:06 - This all went down at an impromptu hearing on Friday.
00:11 Hall pleaded guilty to five misdemeanor charges.
00:14 Initially, he was facing seven charges
00:16 from the District Attorney's Office in Fulton County,
00:18 including a racketeering charge.
00:20 And with that guilty plea,
00:21 Hall became the first of the 19 co-defendants
00:23 in this Georgia election subversion case
00:26 to cut a deal with the District Attorney's Office.
00:28 Listen to part of what happened in court.
00:30 - How do you plead to the five counts of conspiracy
00:33 to commit intentional interference
00:35 with performance of election duty?
00:38 - Guilty.
00:39 - And is this guilty plea being freely and voluntarily
00:41 given with the full knowledge of the charges against you?
00:43 - Yes, ma'am, it is.
00:45 - As part of the conditions of his sentencing,
00:47 Hall will have to pay a $5,000 fine.
00:49 He'll be on probation for five years
00:51 and also have to complete 200 hours of community service.
00:54 But perhaps most importantly,
00:56 he will have to testify against his co-defendants
00:58 at any future proceedings or trials related to this case.
01:02 Nick Valencia, CNN, Atlanta.
01:05 - All right, thank you so much, Nick.
01:06 Let's talk more about all of this.
01:08 Jeffrey Jakobowitz is with me.
01:10 He is a white collar criminal attorney
01:12 and an adjunct law professor at American University.
01:15 Great to see you, Jeffrey.
01:16 So your reaction to this Trump co-defendant
01:20 pleading guilty with no prison time
01:22 and agreeing to testify in this case?
01:26 - Well, Frederica, he could be one of the first of many
01:29 who will plead guilty
01:30 because he actually got a pretty good deal here.
01:33 He doesn't have to go to jail.
01:35 He will have to cooperate.
01:37 He did give a statement to the government already,
01:40 to the prosecutor.
01:42 And what's interesting about Hall
01:44 is Hall is linked to Sidney Powell.
01:47 And that puts pressure on Sidney Powell.
01:50 And if there's pressure on Sidney Powell
01:52 and she decides to cut a plea and cooperate,
01:55 who does she cooperate against?
01:57 The president, the former president.
02:00 - Right, and do you see that that is the direction
02:03 in which it would go?
02:04 That he's kind of, Hall might be the test pilot,
02:06 but since he was there with Sidney Powell,
02:11 you see videotape of them entering that
02:14 building in Coffee County, Georgia,
02:18 might she be inclined to also make a plea deal?
02:25 - Well, what would be interesting is how credible
02:28 does Forney Willis think Sidney Powell would be as a witness
02:31 because she's been out there on a number of statements,
02:34 some of which was somewhat hard to believe
02:37 and people are very skeptical of it.
02:40 And so would she be a credible witness at trial
02:43 if she would testify against the former president?
02:46 But at this point, a number of the lower level people
02:49 will see the deal that Hall got
02:51 and they will be talking to their lawyers
02:53 and contacting Forney Willis and saying,
02:55 "Hey, can I get the same deal?"
02:57 - So Sidney Powell among them, Kenneth Chesbrough,
03:02 who is the alleged architect of the fake elector plot
03:06 as well to overturn the election,
03:08 where might he line up on any discussions about plea deals?
03:13 - Well, he's certainly going to get a plea offer,
03:17 but it doesn't necessarily follow that he will accept it
03:21 and plead guilty.
03:22 He seems like he wants to challenge this case
03:25 and he's ready to go to trial apparently in a few weeks
03:29 as is Sidney Powell, but let's see what happens.
03:32 Things change overnight and look how Hall came forward
03:35 and people didn't expect it,
03:38 but right now we have two trials set for October 23rd.
03:41 - This week, Donald Trump through his attorneys
03:45 also notified the court that he would not seek
03:48 to move his Georgia case to a federal court.
03:52 The track record is such it probably would not have happened
03:55 because of the precedent ruling.
03:57 Do you see that move as an indication
04:01 that his legal team is also trying to maneuver
04:03 for something else to better position him in this case?
04:08 - Well, I think what they're trying to do,
04:10 at least what Donald Trump is trying to do
04:12 is keep the case in state court in front of a,
04:15 what was a Republican judge, a Republican appointed judge,
04:19 which probably doesn't matter at all.
04:22 And he's seen that every removal motion
04:25 that has been filed in federal court has been denied.
04:28 He would have the burden of proof
04:30 and he would most likely have to testify.
04:32 And it would be very unlikely for his attorneys
04:36 to allow him to testify in a removal hearing.
04:39 We know Mark Meadows did that
04:41 and he really exposed himself, Mr. Meadows,
04:44 to potential problems.
04:46 - In another court case involving the former president,
04:49 Trump now says that he will attend the civil fraud trial
04:53 in New York when it gets underway Monday.
04:56 And it comes after a judge dealt Trump a major blow this week
05:01 when a ruling came that Trump is liable,
05:04 the entire organization liable for fraud
05:07 and overvaluing Trump's properties
05:11 on his financial statements.
05:13 There's been speculation that this New York case
05:15 could threaten Trump's entire business empire.
05:19 Do you see that happening?
05:20 - Frederica, the words major blow is an understatement.
05:25 This was a complete devastating ruling by the court.
05:30 And what the court indicated is the various valuations
05:35 were not based in reality.
05:38 Trump will have to testify, as will his sons.
05:42 There's an issue about a Fifth Amendment privilege,
05:44 which basically the argument would be they have waived it.
05:48 And we know that Alvin Brad will be watching this trial.
05:53 It's not clear whether he would follow up
05:55 with any criminal action,
05:57 but this really guts Trump's business.
06:01 And it's not just in New York, it's all over.
06:05 There will be a receiver involved,
06:06 there's a monitor involved.
06:08 And so what we have here is a dangerous situation
06:13 for the former president.
06:14 - All right, Jeffrey Jakobovitz,
06:16 we'll leave it there for now.
06:18 Thank you so much.
06:19 - Thank you.
06:20 - All right, we continue to watch activity on Capitol Hill,
06:25 possibly at any moment, there may be a House vote
06:28 on a short-term spending bill
06:30 to try to keep US government functioning.
06:34 We'll be right back.
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06:46 - Joining me, I'm Frederica Whitfield.
06:48 Right now, lawmakers are on Capitol Hill
06:50 with just hours left until the government shutdown.
06:53 And today, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's plan
06:56 is to pass bills to minimize the impacts of a shutdown,
07:00 not stop one from actually happening.
07:02 GOP hardliners blocked his last attempt
07:05 at passing a short-term funding bill.
07:08 And if McCarthy turns to Democrats for help today,
07:12 he could lose his job.
07:15 Over on the Senate side,
07:16 lawmakers are moving ahead with their own funding bill,
07:19 but it would not pass in time to keep the government open.
07:23 The stakes could not be higher.
07:25 When the clock strikes midnight,
07:27 millions of federal workers will be off the job.
07:30 Employees considered essential,
07:32 like active duty military and border agents,
07:35 will be forced to work without pay.
07:38 And you could even see airport delays,
07:40 museum and national park closures,
07:42 and food assistance programs put on hold.
07:46 Now that a shutdown seems all but inevitable,
07:49 the questions on everyone's minds are,
07:52 how long will it last potentially?
07:54 And how would it end?
07:57 CNN's Lauren Fox joining us now from Capitol Hill
08:00 with more on all this.
08:01 Lauren, so what is the latest?
08:04 - What we are learning right now
08:06 in the House Republican Conference,
08:08 as members are leaving this meeting,
08:10 is essentially that they are now planning to move forward
08:14 with a short-term spending bill
08:16 that would include disaster aid,
08:18 but no money for Ukraine.
08:19 This is a massive switch as to what we were hearing
08:23 just an hour ago from members
08:25 who were leaving and inside of this meeting.
08:27 That is because I am told there was a growing consensus
08:30 as the meeting went on,
08:32 that they needed to do something to avert the shutdown.
08:35 One of the big question marks right now
08:37 is whether or not Democrats will join hands
08:39 with Republicans to support this legislation,
08:42 given the fact that it does not include Ukraine funding.
08:46 - Let's go to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy right now.
08:49 - For not getting the job done in the House and the Senate.
08:54 I do not believe the Border Patrol agents should be punished.
08:56 I do not believe the American public should be punished.
08:59 So I wanna keep government open,
09:01 while we finish our job to secure the border.
09:04 The president, he's been gone.
09:07 He's been in California, he's been every place else.
09:09 The one place he hasn't been at the border.
09:11 He has gone to more dinners
09:13 with Hunter Biden's business associates
09:15 than he has to the border in 50 years.
09:17 But what we're gonna do now,
09:19 'cause the Senate cannot act in time,
09:21 government would shut down.
09:23 The House is gonna act so government will not shut down.
09:26 We will put a clean funding stopgap on the floor
09:30 to keep government open for 45 days
09:33 for the House and Senate to get their work done.
09:36 We will also, knowing what had transpired through the summer,
09:40 the disasters in Florida, the horrendous fire in Hawaii,
09:44 and also the disasters in California and Vermont,
09:47 we will put the supplemental portion
09:49 that the president asked for in disaster there too.
09:52 Keeping the government open while we continue to do our work
09:56 to end the wasteful spending, end the wokeism,
09:59 and most importantly, secure our border.
10:01 -Mr. Speaker, did you get any assurances
10:03 from any of the Republican holdouts
10:05 that they will support this?
10:06 -No, look, I have tried for eight months.
10:10 It took me a long time
10:11 to finally get the appropriation bills on the floor.
10:13 They were delayed.
10:14 I tried yesterday with the most conservative
10:17 stopgap funding bill you could find
10:19 that secured our border, that cut spending,
10:21 and I couldn't get 218 Republicans on.
10:24 This will be on suspension.
10:26 It takes a higher threshold.
10:28 But what I am asking Republicans and Democrats alike,
10:31 put your partisanship away.
10:33 Focus on the American public.
10:35 How can you, in good conscience,
10:38 think of the men and women
10:40 who volunteer to risk their lives
10:44 to defend us to say they can't be paid
10:47 while we work out our differences?
10:49 That is unfair.
10:50 I cannot do that to our men and women in uniform.
10:54 And so we're going to keep government open
10:56 while we work our differences out and secure our border.
10:59 -Do you worry about they'll try to remove you?
11:02 -You know what?
11:03 If somebody wants to remove
11:05 because I want to be the adult in the room,
11:07 go ahead and try.
11:08 But I think this country is too important.
11:10 And I will stand with our military.
11:12 I'll stand with our border agents.
11:13 I'll stand with those that have to get their medicine
11:17 from government as well.
11:18 I think that's too important.
11:20 We have done more than 70% of our job
11:22 where the Senate has done nothing.
11:24 The Senate can't even get something done.
11:25 The Senate can't even get something to the floor in time.
11:28 We can.
11:29 And you know what?
11:30 If I have to risk my job
11:32 for standing up for the American public,
11:33 I will do that.
11:34 -This will require two-thirds vote of the House.
11:36 Have you talked to Jeffries or any Democrats
11:38 about if they will support this?
11:40 -I talked to Hakeem yesterday.
11:41 I talked to a number of Democrats yesterday.
11:44 They kept -- from a standpoint, didn't want --
11:48 they want to do Ukraine as well.
11:49 I think that can have a different day.
11:52 I've watched the Senate.
11:53 They said, "Let's wait for the Senate."
11:54 The Senate cannot bring us a bill before shutdown.
11:58 They cannot get --
11:59 Government will shut down if we wait.
12:02 I do not want that on our watch.
12:04 I think this country is too important.
12:06 I know the House has done their work.
12:08 The Senate has not.
12:09 The Senate hasn't passed one appropriation bill,
12:11 and all of you have written these great,
12:13 raving stories about how great the appropriation process
12:15 is going in the Senate.
12:16 They've tried all month.
12:18 They said they could get something going here.
12:20 They can't get anything to us.
12:22 So you know what?
12:23 I'm going to get the American people first.
12:25 We will finish our job.
12:27 I will keep the House in to keep working
12:29 on our appropriation bills, get it done during that time.
12:33 But the Senate better get their work done,
12:35 and the border has got to get secure.
12:37 -Mr. Speaker, if this bill goes down, is there a plan B?
12:40 -Well, if this bill goes down, tell me why do people
12:42 want to have government shut down.
12:44 That will be on those individuals.
12:46 -It wouldn't just be because of Democrats
12:47 if this bill goes down.
12:48 You need Democrats and Republicans
12:50 to vote for this bill. -That's right.
12:52 That's right.
12:53 If Democrats want to shut the government down,
12:56 they'd vote against this bill.
12:58 Tell me what to argue if we're putting a stopgap measure
13:03 with no politics in it that says we will continue funding
13:06 government exactly as it is right now for 45 days
13:09 while we finish our job.
13:11 The only thing that we'll do differently
13:12 is those who have suffered through a flood,
13:16 through a fire, and others, where the disaster money's not
13:19 there, we'll make sure that disaster money's there
13:21 so they don't get punished.
13:24 It will look at our troops in the eye to say, yes,
13:26 you don't have to worry about how
13:28 you're going to make your rent.
13:29 We're going to finish our job.
13:30 We're going to secure our borders.
13:32 We're going to look at the border agents that
13:34 come back bloody securing our country
13:37 and say, we don't want you in doing your job worrying
13:40 about whether you're going to be able to make your car payment.
13:42 We're going to do our job.
13:44 We're going to be adults in the room.
13:46 And we're going to keep government open
13:48 while we solve this problem.
13:49 Yes.
13:50 And as we go through these approvals,
13:52 they are the most conservative approvals that ever passed.
13:54 You don't realize what we've even achieved.
13:57 The FSOP bill is the first time a Republican majority
14:01 has passed that appropriation bill in more than 16 years.
14:05 We're achieving things.
14:06 I do not want to stop that momentum of getting our job.
14:09 That is the way we'll be able to secure our border.
14:11 If we shut the government down, the border agents
14:14 don't get paid.
14:15 The border is even further wide open.
14:17 The president wants to ignore this problem.
14:19 We're not going to allow him.
14:20 He wants to ignore governing.
14:22 He's the president of the United States.
14:24 What has he done about keeping government open?
14:26 Well, I'll tell you this.
14:28 We are putting something on the floor that will
14:30 continue to pay our troops.
14:31 And if he wants to lobby against it
14:34 and tell Democrats to vote against it,
14:35 then the shutdown is on him.
14:37 Why not?
14:37 Why not leave?
14:38 Why not leave?
14:39 Why not?
14:39 Why not?
14:40 [INTERPOSING VOICES]
14:40 You heard House Speaker Kevin McCarthy say,
14:42 you know, what I'm asking is that Republicans and Democrats
14:45 put partisanship aside.
14:47 We will keep the government open while we
14:49 work out our differences.
14:51 He wants to stand with the military, he says,
14:54 and border agents, and to make sure people get their medicine.
14:58 Well, how will they do this?
14:59 You just heard him say, we are putting something on the floor
15:02 to keep government open.
15:04 What are the concessions?
15:05 Lauren Fox is with us now.
15:07 Lauren, what is the plan that he's
15:09 talking about that deserves a vote today in order
15:12 to keep government open?
15:14 This is such a significant moment for House Speaker Kevin
15:17 McCarthy.
15:17 The question all week, all month long,
15:20 has been would he potentially risk his speakership
15:23 and put some kind of short-term spending bill on the floor
15:27 that he would need Democratic support for?
15:29 Because so many of his hardliners
15:31 have been warning that if he put something like the bill
15:33 that he's describing today on the floor,
15:36 that they would bring a vote to oust him.
15:38 He said during that press conference, quote,
15:41 "Go ahead and try.
15:43 If I have to risk my job standing up
15:45 for the American public, I will do that."
15:48 Now, there are still a lot of unanswered questions
15:50 about whether or not this is going to pass today.
15:53 And one of the key reasons is because it does not
15:55 include Ukraine aid.
15:56 What he is talking about is a 45-day short-term spending
16:00 bill to keep the government open,
16:02 to keep working through their longer appropriations process
16:05 that would include disaster aid, but not funding for Ukraine.
16:09 The Senate, meanwhile, has a similar bill
16:11 that includes $6.2 billion for Ukraine aid.
16:16 So that is a key distinction here.
16:18 He's basically daring Democrats to vote against this proposal
16:22 and then, of course, if they did,
16:24 blame them for shutting down the government.
16:26 So you now have a House plan and a Senate plan.
16:30 These two things are not the exact same.
16:32 Is it possible that they could work out their differences?
16:34 Is it possible that Democrats in the House might vote for that?
16:38 This is an unanswered question that we are going
16:40 to obviously be checking in with sources,
16:42 trying to get more information, because it would be a very
16:44 difficult vote for some Democrats
16:46 to vote against a short-term CR.
16:48 But because they are bringing this up
16:50 under the suspension of the rules,
16:51 they are going to need a large number of Democrats
16:54 to pass this across the House.
16:57 And additionally, Lauren, hopefully you're
16:59 able to hear us because we had a little bit of audio problem
17:02 there.
17:04 What's the timeline?
17:05 What's the timeline on when he would
17:07 bring that measure for a vote?
17:11 Yeah, sources that I talked to leaving the meeting on my way
17:14 up here, they said that this could happen very quickly.
17:17 Today, obviously, there are some questions
17:19 about how the Senate would perceive this,
17:22 how they would deal with something like this,
17:24 if it could even get passed out of the House.
17:25 So a lot of unanswered questions right now.
17:27 This is obviously a very different position
17:30 than what the House members were talking about even
17:32 an hour and a half ago when I last spoke with you.
17:35 They were talking about putting one-off bills on the floor
17:37 to try to blunt the impact of a shutdown
17:40 rather than putting anything on the floor that
17:42 would actually avoid a shutdown.
17:43 Obviously, through the course of their meeting,
17:46 as more and more members started talking about this,
17:48 they came to some kind of consensus behind closed doors
17:51 that they needed to have a Republican position,
17:55 that the House of Representatives
17:56 couldn't just do nothing.
17:58 Frederica.
17:58 OK.
17:59 And then, Lauren, there was a lot of hyperbole
18:01 there, too, from the House speaker
18:03 because he says he would be putting
18:05 the blame on the Senate and Democrats
18:07 if there is a government shutdown.
18:09 In other words, putting everyone in the corner,
18:12 if they don't go for this measure,
18:14 then ultimately there will be a shutdown.
18:17 And his efforts had nothing to do with it.
18:22 I just want to be very clear that the distinction, what
18:25 the House and Senate are fighting over right now,
18:27 is Ukraine funding.
18:28 This $6.2 billion that was included in the Senate's
18:32 proposal that is supported by not just Democrats
18:35 in the Senate, but also the minority leader, Mitch
18:38 McConnell, and a number of his Republican colleagues.
18:41 So that is the flashpoint right now.
18:43 This is coming down to a question of whether or not
18:45 Democrats are going to move forward
18:48 with a bill that does not include this Ukraine aid.
18:51 But obviously, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy
18:54 wants to make this about he acted,
18:56 and it's up now to the Senate to decide what they want to do.
18:59 But as you point out, this has been a long time coming.
19:02 This could have come days ago, weeks ago.
19:05 Instead, we are here just hours before the shutdown.
19:08 All right, Lauren Fox, don't go too far.
19:10 They're on Capitol Hill.
19:11 We'll check back with you as more news merits
19:14 and when there is a timeline of when the next possible vote
19:17 could happen, at least in the House.
19:18 All right, let me now bring in-- there was a measure,
19:21 at least passing the House today,
19:23 who knows what would happen in the Senate, a measure that
19:26 would say keep government-- or potentially government
19:30 will still shut down, but keep the paychecks going
19:34 to US military and border patrol workers, employees.
19:39 Well, again, we really never should
19:41 have been in this situation to begin with.
19:43 Of course, we're going to support any measure
19:45 that the Congress takes to pay our military service members,
19:48 our troops, our civilian employees.
19:52 Every day, they have bills that you and I pay or accrue
19:56 on our daily lives, whether it's gas, grocery bills, apartment,
20:00 mortgage rent, or mortgages that are due.
20:03 So of course, we're going to support a measure that
20:06 funds our troops.
20:07 But again, we really shouldn't be in this position.
20:09 We should be in a place where we are receiving
20:13 long-term funding for the department,
20:15 and not just for the Department of Defense,
20:17 but the whole of government.
20:19 This impacts so many employees all across the board.
20:22 We're also learning that President Biden will likely
20:24 hold a cabinet meeting on Monday.
20:26 What would be the first item of business for the White House,
20:30 or at least give us an idea how the prioritizing
20:35 would take place?
20:36 Well, that's really something for the White House
20:38 to speak to.
20:39 What I can say is I know the Secretary is certainly
20:42 concerned always about taking care of our people,
20:44 making sure that our troops, that our civilian employees
20:47 are getting the-- whether it's health care, the pay that they
20:50 need to continue to work and defend our nation.
20:54 But of course, Ukraine is going to be top of mind.
20:57 The war in Ukraine, no matter if a shutdown happens,
21:00 Russia's not shutting down.
21:02 The PRC is not shutting down.
21:03 Iran.
21:05 And of course, these are all of our daily national security
21:09 threats that we face all around the world.
21:11 And Ukraine is continuing its war,
21:14 fighting back for its sovereign territory against Russia.
21:16 And so that's something that I know the Secretary thinks
21:19 about daily, if not hourly.
21:21 And certainly something that I'm sure would come up
21:23 at any cabinet meeting.
21:24 Right.
21:25 You're not at the White House.
21:26 You're Department of Defense.
21:27 Right.
21:27 It wasn't long ago where the nation watched on live
21:31 television right here on CNN.
21:33 We saw Ukrainian President Zelensky
21:35 going to the Pentagon after his time on Capitol Hill
21:39 and at the White House.
21:40 And with that came assurances, bipartisan assurances,
21:45 that the United States would continue to support Ukraine
21:48 in its efforts to defend itself.
21:50 And now it is at the crux of whether House Republican
21:56 leadership is willing to pass a bill.
21:59 I mean, what is the messaging that the Department of Defense
22:03 wants to maintain with Ukraine living up to its promises,
22:09 but then it is likely--
22:12 it's up to an act of Congress in which
22:14 to carry out some promised additional $6.2 million
22:17 in assistance aid to Ukraine?
22:21 Well, I think you've heard this administration speak
22:25 and repeatedly say that we're with Ukraine
22:27 for as long as it takes.
22:29 And I think Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said
22:31 it best just a few weeks ago when he said security aid
22:34 and aid to Ukraine is not charity.
22:38 Continuing to flow security assistance to Ukraine
22:41 is in our best interest for our own national security
22:44 and interest of our allies abroad.
22:47 We are here to help Ukraine uphold
22:50 the international rules-based order, something
22:52 that Russia has completely disregarded when
22:54 it invaded a sovereign country.
22:56 And so absolutely helping Ukraine defend its country,
23:00 take back its sovereign territory,
23:02 continuing to fight and push in its counteroffensive
23:05 as we head into the winter months,
23:07 that is something that this department is really focused on
23:10 and, as we assured President Zelensky and other leaders
23:14 across Ukraine, we are and we want
23:16 to stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes.
23:18 We're following breaking news on Capitol Hill.
23:20 The House now set to vote in about 20 minutes
23:23 on a short-term funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.
23:27 This is a last-minute Hail Mary to keep the government open.
23:31 We'll have more on this as we learn more about it
23:34 and bring it to you.
23:36 All right, but first, New York City
23:37 is under a state of emergency today
23:40 following a record-setting downpour yesterday
23:42 that overwhelmed the city's sewer system,
23:45 causing a surge of floodwater that drowned the streets
23:48 and poured into vehicles, basements, and into schools.
23:53 The flooding prompted widespread shutdowns in the subway system
23:56 as well and at LaGuardia Airport.
23:59 Just look at the scene.
24:00 They're in one of the terminals, people pulling their luggage,
24:04 taking off their shoes, walking in very deep water.
24:08 The terminal has since reopened, along with some subway lines
24:12 that had closed.
24:14 All right, Friday was the wettest day on record at JFK,
24:18 with the airport there getting almost nine inches of rain.
24:22 Brooklyn saw up to 4 and 1/2 inches a month's worth of rain
24:27 falling in only three hours, something that happens only
24:31 about once every 100 years.
24:33 And in Manhattan, nearly two inches of rain
24:36 falling in an hour in Central Park alone, the second wettest
24:40 hour there in 80 years.
24:43 The flooding was so extreme, rather,
24:45 that a sea lion temporarily escaped from the Central Park
24:50 Zoo before safely returning to her pool after the surge.
24:54 You see right there.
24:55 All right, CNN's Polo Sandoval and Alison Chinchar
24:57 are both standing by for us.
24:59 Polo, that sea lion looked very confused,
25:02 like what is going on, which is what most New Yorkers felt
25:04 like, too.
25:06 And the mayor, he actually is now
25:10 responding to a lot of criticism he's been receiving.
25:15 That's right, Fred.
25:16 In the face of that fierce criticism,
25:18 Mayor Adams is still defending the city's actions leading up
25:21 to yesterday's historic storm, pointing to a travel advisory
25:25 that was issued Thursday afternoon,
25:27 recommending people stay at home if they can.
25:30 And then, of course, those who had to venture out
25:32 to use above ground transit systems, because as we know,
25:35 that subway system was hit hard yesterday.
25:38 But as we heard from New York City, rather,
25:40 New York Governor Kathy Hochul report earlier this morning,
25:44 that that system is back up and running again.
25:46 Less than 24 hours after this area was hit hard.
25:49 So officials certainly defending those actions leading up
25:52 to the storm, including also the Department of Education.
25:54 There were some questions that came up yesterday
25:56 about why it requires students to go into school yesterday,
25:59 knowing that the system was coming in.
26:02 The chancellor of the Department of Education
26:03 saying that remote learning is only
26:06 considered as a last resort.
26:08 They felt confident that the children
26:09 could be kept safe yesterday.
26:11 So I think what we heard this morning,
26:13 as officials were basically wrapping up that response
26:16 and now previewing more of the recovery,
26:18 is a sense of relief and also pride
26:20 that only a few dozen rescues were required.
26:24 And fortunately, no injuries or worse.
26:26 But also some serious questions about what
26:28 can be done to prevent this from happening in the future.
26:31 We have heard that issue of the infrastructure
26:33 come up flood after flood the last couple of years
26:37 here in New York City.
26:38 And Governor Hochul this morning recognized
26:40 that more investment needs to happen,
26:43 pointing to climate change.
26:44 That because of that, we are likely to see
26:47 more of these storms have a massive impact on America's
26:50 largest city, Fred.
26:52 Yeah, that was incredible.
26:53 It's just still mind boggling to see that videotape.
26:58 And glad most of the water is now receding.
27:00 Polis Andoval, thank you so much.
27:02 So Allison Chinchar, what is the situation?
27:04 Is it mostly cleanup now?
27:06 Or might there be more weather like that or conditions
27:09 like that on the way there?
27:11 I think it's a combination of both, Fred.
27:12 I think you've got some cleanup, but you're cleaning up
27:15 with showers above you.
27:16 Because we do still have some light and even
27:18 some moderate rain bands still making their way
27:20 across the Northeast.
27:21 The heaviest at the moment belongs across the Cape
27:24 around Nantucket.
27:25 And we're also starting to see some more
27:27 of those moderate rain bands coming back
27:28 across Long Island.
27:30 Now, the good news is the bulk of the really heavy rain
27:32 that we saw yesterday, that is through.
27:34 But at times, you're going to get this darker green and even
27:37 some yellow, meaning those moderate rain
27:39 bands from time to time.
27:40 You've still got several flood advisories and flood warnings
27:43 in effect for today.
27:44 Most of that, however, is not necessarily
27:46 for the additional rain that's expected today,
27:49 but rather all of the rain that fell yesterday.
27:51 Because it takes a long time for that much water to recede.
27:55 You're talking JFK setting a record yesterday
27:57 of over 8 inches.
27:58 Valley Stream, New York, picking up over 9.
28:01 And several other locations across New York, Connecticut,
28:03 and New Jersey, picking up at least 6 inches.
28:06 Again, it may come down very quickly,
28:08 but it doesn't go away very quickly.
28:09 And so for a lot of these places,
28:11 it is going to take time before we finally
28:13 see all of that rain recede.
28:15 Now, one thing to note, we do still
28:16 have more rain in the forecast.
28:18 For the most locations, this will
28:19 be done in just the next couple of hours.
28:21 For a few other places, it will linger well
28:23 into the late afternoon.
28:25 But the good news is by the time we get to tomorrow, Fred,
28:28 finally a day with sunshine from start
28:30 to finish across the Northeast.
28:32 Oh, well, that will be nice.
28:34 All right.
28:34 Thanks to both of you.
28:35 Polo Sandoval, Allison Chinchar, appreciate it.
28:38 All right, so with the US government just hours now away
28:41 from potentially shutting down, what
28:43 will it mean for the US economy and your wallet?
28:46 The impact the chaos on the capital
28:49 might have on your bottom line.
28:51 Now set to vote on a short-term funding bill
28:54 to keep the US government open, this
28:56 is really a last ditch effort to try and avoid
28:59 a government shutdown.
29:00 McCarthy, House Speaker McCarthy,
29:02 coming out just moments ago saying this.
29:07 If somebody wants to remove because I
29:09 want to be the adult in the room, go ahead and try.
29:12 If I have to risk my job for standing up
29:15 for the American public, I will do that.
29:18 All right, let's get more now on the potential economic impact
29:21 for just about everybody if there is indeed
29:24 a government shutdown.
29:25 Mark Zandi is the chief economist for Moody's Analytics.
29:28 Good to see you, Mark.
29:30 So the US still facing this threat from inflation,
29:33 broader economic slowdowns, and now potentially this shutdown.
29:37 What is this going to do to the economy?
29:41 Nothing good, Fred.
29:42 I mean, if it's a couple, three weeks, which
29:44 is kind of a typical shutdown, I don't
29:46 think it's a big deal from a broader macroeconomic
29:49 perspective.
29:50 Obviously, it's a deal for the couple million
29:52 plus federal government employees who don't get paid.
29:55 But for the broader economy, I think we're OK.
29:57 But the timing isn't great, right?
29:59 I mean, we've got the UAW strike.
30:00 We've got student loan payments that
30:02 are going to start kicking in.
30:04 We've got higher interest rates.
30:05 We're now paying $4 for a gallon of regular unleaded.
30:08 A lot of headwinds to the economy,
30:10 and you just throw this into the mix.
30:11 It's just really bad timing.
30:13 And of course, if it goes on for much longer than a couple,
30:15 three weeks, then the economic damage will start to mount.
30:18 Well, three weeks can really be an eternity, especially when
30:21 you are living paycheck to paycheck.
30:22 So if there is a government shutdown,
30:24 while you talk about the macro picture,
30:26 it may not be devastating over a three week period.
30:29 If you are among the millions who
30:33 are counting on your paycheck, and now you're not,
30:35 whether you go to work without a paycheck or you're furloughed,
30:39 entirely it means you can't pay your rent.
30:41 You can't pay your services, utility, groceries.
30:45 So what kind of impact is that going
30:48 to make on households that are what ultimately
30:53 can be big setbacks?
30:56 Yeah, for sure.
30:57 I mean, if you're a federal government employee
30:59 and there are a couple million plus in the country,
31:03 yeah, this is a hardship, particularly
31:05 for lower paid government employees.
31:07 Now, they'll ultimately get their pay check back
31:11 when the government reopens.
31:12 But that could be a long time.
31:14 And you're right, a lot of folks just
31:15 don't have that cash cushion.
31:16 Then there's a lot of private companies
31:18 out there that do business with the government,
31:20 and they're not going to get paid.
31:22 And those workers are going to start to struggle.
31:24 So you're absolutely right.
31:25 I mean, immediately, several million people
31:27 are going to have some problems here.
31:29 And then, of course, if it goes on for more
31:31 than a couple, three weeks, it lasts a month or so,
31:34 then the damage accumulates.
31:37 All kinds of things are going to start breaking
31:39 all over the place, and the hardships are going to mount.
31:42 So for investors around the world,
31:44 does a US government shutdown shake
31:47 their confidence in the US?
31:51 Can it potentially alter the US credit rating even?
31:56 Well, this is after the debt limit drama
31:59 just a couple of months ago.
32:00 And of course, our long-term fiscal situation
32:02 looks pretty ominous.
32:04 I mean, just take a look at current policy.
32:07 If we don't make changes to tax or spending policy
32:10 and under reasonable assumptions,
32:11 we've got very high deficits in debt forever.
32:15 And that's just not sustainable.
32:16 So investors, if they're not going to be shaken by this,
32:19 they will be shaken at some point in the not-too-distant
32:21 future, because we're not moving in the right direction.
32:25 And shutting the government down just
32:26 shows that we're very dysfunctional.
32:29 The government's very dysfunctional.
32:31 How are we going to tackle these big fiscal problems
32:33 if we can't even keep the government open?
32:35 So I don't know if this is the thing that's
32:37 going to shake investor confidence,
32:38 but we'll see more of these kinds of things down the road,
32:42 and it certainly will.
32:44 You mentioned labor strikes.
32:47 Here, this potential government shutdown
32:49 happening as the autoworkers strike
32:52 now enters its third week.
32:54 The UAW is expanding its strike against GM and Ford.
32:59 What do you see?
33:01 Do you see any potential progress here?
33:03 Or might this have real long-term economic implications
33:08 as well?
33:10 Well, again, given what's happened so far,
33:14 I don't think it's big enough to have large consequences
33:17 for the broader economy.
33:18 Again, for the workers involved and the companies involved,
33:21 this is really a problem.
33:23 But it's not big enough for the broader economy.
33:25 But the longer it drags on, if this
33:28 extends through the month of October,
33:30 and more factories are brought into the mix,
33:33 and the UAW strikes more facilities
33:35 and shuts more facilities down, then yes, it's
33:38 going to have a larger impact on the economy.
33:40 And again, it's not just one of these things.
33:44 It's not just the shutdown.
33:45 It's not just the UAW strike.
33:46 It's the combination of all of these things
33:49 that are coming together.
33:51 And collectively, they could do a lot of damage.
33:55 All right.
33:56 We'll leave it there for now.
33:57 Mark Zandi, thank you so much.
33:58 Great to see you on this lovely Saturday.
34:01 Thank you.
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